Map Size Thread

[bakerach]

Screenshots are admittedly perplexing.

 

Look at this. The Vinewood sign looks 3 feet away in this.

 

 

Then look at this. The US Bank tower looks to be at least 2 kilometers away from the Vinewood sign. The city itself seems bigger.

 

 

The screen from the Vinewood sign was shot with a wide-angle "lens.". That stretches distances, making them seem farther than they are. The one from the skyscraper is a longer "lens," with a narrow field of view that compresses everything in the background plane making it all seem flat/close.

 

 

Look at this link for further info. http://petapixel.com/2012/05/03/trippy-exa...hot-on-a-beach/

[Raavi]

Something tells me they will treat Long Beach (Los Puerta perhaps) as a second city.

[kasa]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

exactly, well maybe they give some more info about Los Santos in the next months or just wait till 17 September how it looks in real life

[FAH-Q]

Does "improved draw distance" not mean anything to you people?

 

I just cant imagine how anyone can look at the screens and think it looks small.

[TheDeaconBosco]

Screenshots are admittedly perplexing.

 

Look at this. The Vinewood sign looks 3 feet away in this.

 

 

Then look at this. The US Bank tower looks to be at least 2 kilometers away from the Vinewood sign. The city itself seems bigger.

 

 

The screen from the Vinewood sign was shot with a wide-angle "lens.". That stretches distances, making them seem farther than they are. The one from the skyscraper is a longer "lens," with a narrow field of view that compresses everything in the background plane making it all seem flat/close.

 

 

Look at this link for further info. http://petapixel.com/2012/05/03/trippy-exa...hot-on-a-beach/

So basically, there's absolutely no way to tell exactly how large LS is without playing the game ourselves. I can live with that.

 

 

[The Scottish Guy]

F*ck I'm not sure now. The more I look at some of these screens, the more I'm slowly becoming convinced that LS is indeed a pretty large city.

Looks can be deceiving. From what I see LS = 3/4 the size of LC Max.

I honestly don't know what to think anymore. This wait has got to be one of the most annoying f*cking things I've ever experienced.

Same feeling here too. This smiley best expresses my face now:

Haha, mine too!

 

Or possibly this face...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meaning the coming months (thank god summer is in the offing) will be filled with the exact same discussions/debates that have already been bled dry countless times.

 

Yeah, I've got a lot of plans for the summer, so I won't be on this forum much (thank f*ck).

 

 

 

Screenshots are admittedly perplexing.

 

Look at this. The Vinewood sign looks 3 feet away in this.

 

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_178.jpg

 

Then look at this. The US Bank tower looks to be at least 2 kilometers away from the Vinewood sign. The city itself seems bigger.

 

 

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/471.jpg

The screen from the Vinewood sign was shot with a wide-angle "lens.". That stretches distances, making them seem farther than they are. The one from the skyscraper is a longer "lens," with a narrow field of view that compresses everything in the background plane making it all seem flat/close.

 

Any chance of clearing up where you believe the correct distance lies between those two shots?

[bakerach]

 

So basically, there's absolutely no way to tell exactly how large LS is without playing the game ourselves. I can live with that.

Exactly- we can APPROXIMATE using screens that appear to be around a focal length of 50mm, since that's close to what our eyes see, but it's still nothing more than a rough guess.

 

Edit: @Scottish guy, the picture of Trevor on the Vinewood sign is probably close to what it would look like if you played map from V with the camera from IV, which I don't think is how the game will be.

Edited May 16, 2013 by bakerach

[dxbrandon]

F*ck I'm not sure now. The more I look at some of these screens, the more I'm slowly becoming convinced that LS is indeed a pretty large city.

Looks can be deceiving. From what I see LS = 3/4 the size of LC Max.

"looks can be deceiving" ya that go both ways. To me the city looks freaking Hugh!

[Tracksuit Hitman]

Damn I would be disappointed if Los Santos isn't at least 1.25 the size of Liberty City (I mean the whole IV map).

Why? Los Santos isn't the whole of San Andreas. The whole of San Andreas would be waaaay over the size of Liberty City.

..And we aren't talking about the state of San Andreas here. The city - the traditional home of GTA - is what we are talking about.

Los Santos is not the "traditional home of GTA". The smart-ass act doesn't work for you, mate.

[jogy]

F*ck I'm not sure now. The more I look at some of these screens, the more I'm slowly becoming convinced that LS is indeed a pretty large city.

Come on Scot. Did you really need to be convinced that Los Santos was gonna be big? Rockstar always delivers!

[TheDeaconBosco]

Damn I would be disappointed if Los Santos isn't at least 1.25 the size of Liberty City (I mean the whole IV map).

Why? Los Santos isn't the whole of San Andreas. The whole of San Andreas would be waaaay over the size of Liberty City.

..And we aren't talking about the state of San Andreas here. The city - the traditional home of GTA - is what we are talking about.

Los Santos is not the "traditional home of GTA". The smart-ass act doesn't work for you, mate.

I'm playing Devil's advocate here but he wasn't talking about LS itself, but the city as in "the urban playground GTA games have had since always".

[brwhizz]

Damn I would be disappointed if Los Santos isn't at least 1.25 the size of Liberty City (I mean the whole IV map).

Why? Los Santos isn't the whole of San Andreas. The whole of San Andreas would be waaaay over the size of Liberty City.

..And we aren't talking about the state of San Andreas here. The city - the traditional home of GTA - is what we are talking about.

Los Santos is not the "traditional home of GTA". The smart-ass act doesn't work for you, mate.

I'm playing Devil's advocate here but he wasn't talking about LS itself, but the city as in "the urban playground GTA games have had since always".

GTA is a constantly evolving series; I think it's wrong to say that it's soul belongs only to the city. Besides, Rockstar will surely do justice to both the LA metropolitan area and the great Southern Californian wilderness.

[SonOfHeAndHer]

 

You guys do realise urban areas require muuuch more processing power than the countryside right?

 

...and you guys also realise how much longer it takes to make urban areas, right?

You do realize what you just said is a loaadddd of bullsh*t right ? The city is the size it is because R* made it that way.

Yep. That Hobo guy is talking a fresh pile of steaming bullsh*t.

Unrelated of what he said: Yeah, just defend someone who called R* lazy bastards because they didn't include more areas which aren't needed for a reimagination of Los Santos in my opinion.

 

There were ten German bombers in the air,

There were ten German bombers in the air,

There were ten German bombers, Ten German bombers,

Ten German bombers in the air.

 

There were no German bombers in the air,

There were no German bombers in the air,

There were no German bombers, No German bombers,

No German bombers in the air.

 

Cos the RAF from England shot them down,

Cos the RAF from England shot them down,

Cos the RAF from England, RAF from England,

The RAF from England shot them down.

 

 

 

f*ck YOUR OPINION ITS f*ckING sh*t.

Pretty pathetic if you can't come up with a serious counter argument and just making a reference to german history.. but of course I forgot that ignorants like you can't do otherwise. How silly of me..

 

And I am not even sure what you're trying to say with these lyrics.

Why would i need a "counter argument" to a load of bullsh*t ? I made a detailed post as to what areas of LA have been shown to be in the game, how big they are and why the city not being bigger than what it currently appears to be is a bad thing, you on the other hand just talk a load of f*cking sh*t, if i could turn what you've said into sound it would sound like 'yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah, uhhhhhhh me stoopid', and if you cant understand what i said maybe you should get a better English teacher.

 

 

[Official General]

 

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that a bottle labelled arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said it was lemonade.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

Edited May 16, 2013 by Official General

[The Scottish Guy]

F*ck I'm not sure now. The more I look at some of these screens, the more I'm slowly becoming convinced that LS is indeed a pretty large city.

Looks can be deceiving. From what I see LS = 3/4 the size of LC Max.

"looks can be deceiving" ya that go both ways. To me the city looks freaking Hugh!

[dxbrandon]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

[Official General]

 

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can. They just aint havin' it from any of us huge-sized city doubters.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

[SonOfHeAndHer]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

Exactly, so why are people blindly supporting a games company in here for ? Its retarded, its like supporting McDonalds even if they give you a big mac with half a burger, at the end of the day R* is a business, and in business someone produces something and if you like what they produce you buy it but if the quality of what you're getting isn't the best it can be you complain about it and if they don't fix it you throw a tantrum get a refund, they fail as a business and go bust.

 

R* are no different to any other business they either produce what the people want or go bust, the Rockstar Defense Force needs to understand this and disband for the greater good of everyone including themselves.

[TheDeaconBosco]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Look it's not the RDF's fault if you had unrealistic expectations to begin with. While LS may not be as huge as you expected, it doesn't look small either, like you, Choco and GKP seem to think.

 

Overall, it seems like it has the size of the typical HD era city.

[GTAaLEX117]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can. They just aint havin' it from any of us huge-sized city doubters.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Well you can't claim the city is small because people will tell you that you're a troll. You can't say it's large either because then you'd be part of the "RDF".

Whatever happened to opinions...

[Kifflom112]

Damn I would be disappointed if Los Santos isn't at least 1.25 the size of Liberty City (I mean the whole IV map).

Why? Los Santos isn't the whole of San Andreas. The whole of San Andreas would be waaaay over the size of Liberty City.

..And we aren't talking about the state of San Andreas here. The city - the traditional home of GTA - is what we are talking about.

Los Santos is not the "traditional home of GTA". The smart-ass act doesn't work for you, mate.

I'm playing Devil's advocate here but he wasn't talking about LS itself, but the city as in "the urban playground GTA games have had since always".

GTA is a constantly evolving series; I think it's wrong to say that it's soul belongs only to the city. Besides, Rockstar will surely do justice to both the LA metropolitan area and the great Southern Californian wilderness.

I disagree. The city is so important in a GTA. I mean, that is where all of the action is. And the way R* does it - the unique architecture in every neighborhood, the vibe, the sounds, the interior, the people, the everything. The city has always been the soul of a GTA for me. The countryside is awesome, but the city is everything to me.

[GTAfan786]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can. They just aint havin' it from any of us huge-sized city doubters.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Well you can't claim the city is small because people will tell you that you're a troll. You can't say it's large either because then you'd be part of the "RDF".

Whatever happened to opinions...

They don't live by opinions. They use false statements to brainwash gullible fools and make them look stupid.

[Tracksuit Hitman]

I disagree. The city is so important in a GTA. I mean, that is where all of the action is. And the way R* does it - the unique architecture in every neighborhood, the vibe, the sounds, the interior, the people, the everything. The city has always been the soul of a GTA for me. The countryside is awesome, but the city is everything to me.

San Fierro and Las Venturas are also cities. The action isn't solely based in Los Santos, the action begins in Los Santos and progresses through Red County, San Fierro, Las Venturas and the desert in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and most probably will in Grand Theft Auto V too.

[kasa]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Look it's not the RDF's fault if you had unrealistic expectations to begin with. While LS may not be as huge as you expected, it doesn't look small either, like you, Choco and GKP seem to think.

 

Overall, it seems like it has the size of the typical HD era city.

I repeat for the last time: it's not only the size what my worries are:

for example 2 issues:

- how will it feel? does it have that special feeling like Vice City or LS, San Venturas or San Fierro and alsfor now what I have seen from the info we have now I have my doubts

- And personally I want it to be a bit like LA (like Los Santos in GTA San Andreas) with all the different neighbourhoods, so also with sprawling suburbs and different areas but also about that I have my worries

 

but I have the idea these worried are no shared by a lot of others; maybe we should start a new topic for people who are worried about Los Santos and people who are not dont't have to join the discussion

 

 

 

[GTAfan786]

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Look it's not the RDF's fault if you had unrealistic expectations to begin with. While LS may not be as huge as you expected, it doesn't look small either, like you, Choco and GKP seem to think.

 

Overall, it seems like it has the size of the typical HD era city.

I repeat for the last time: it's not only the size what my worries are:

for example 2 issues:

- how will it feel? does it have that special feeling like Vice City or LS, San Venturas or San Fierro and alsfor now what I have seen from the info we have now I have my doubts

- And personally I want it to be a bit like LA (like Los Santos in GTA San Andreas) with all the different neighbourhoods, so also with sprawling suburbs and different areas but also about that I have my worries

 

but I have the idea these worried are no shared by a lot of others; maybe we should start a new topic for people who are worried about Los Santos and people who are not dont't have to join the discussion

New topic? Because you want to use your idiotic false statements which don't make sense to brainwash gullible fools? HAHAHA. You're so pathetic. We can take the fact that it's your opinion, but half of you are acting like it's a fact.

[The Scottish Guy]

 

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Look it's not the RDF's fault if you had unrealistic expectations to begin with. While LS may not be as huge as you expected, it doesn't look small either, like you, Choco and GKP seem to think.

 

Overall, it seems like it has the size of the typical HD era city.

How exactly is having an HD LS at least equivalent in size of the HD LC an unrealisitc expectation?

 

It should be the very least of expectations given over five years has passed since our city. It's great having wilderness and what not, but it shouldn't come at the expense of urban area. If the map is indeed as big as we're being told, an LC (water included) sized LS would not be unachievable, nor would it be asking too much. Afterall, it appears to be the ONLY city we are getting.

 

But it appears the RDF have infiltrated this thread, and are now on the offensive special task of cleansing it of our rabid size-doubting terrorism operations.

 

 

The RDF: Take Twos most effective Strategist Elite Defensive

 

 

They'll stop at no cost

[Official General]

 

Look it's not the RDF's fault if you had unrealistic expectations to begin with. While LS may not be as huge as you expected, it doesn't look small either, like you, Choco and GKP seem to think.

 

Overall, it seems like it has the size of the typical HD era city.

The RDF are in the house making some serious angry noise, you only have to look at their posts on this thread. Some if has even lead to expressions of rage, when all we are doing is speaking about what we can see before us.

 

What expectations was we supposed to have ?? I heard Los Santos was the only city in GTA V, and Rockstar told us that the game's map was bigger than GTA IV, San Andreas and RDR combined. To add to this Liberty City in GTA IV was indeed a huge place and a very realistic re-creation of NYC, the screenshots showed this. It can only be assumed Rockstar aimed to do the same thing this generation with LS in V and do LA some justice.

 

If that is not a valid set of reasons for believing the city of LS in V would be huge, then please tell me what is ??

 

LS does not look small, but right now it just does not look huge - and huge is what we wanted, and that is what most people expected. Stop making excuses for Rockstar, the images clearly support our concerns. We could be wrong, and we hope we are, but all we can do is say what we see.

 

Don't give me that 'expecting too much' bullsh*t, because we had a good reason to.

[TheDeaconBosco]

 

pfff.. I still say it might be a big city but for me it all depends what they do with it, I still hope for big areas like Compton, Watts or Eastside La but nothing there is no sign Rockstar gave these neighbourhoods a lot of attention

Nor hollywood hills, hollywood beverly hills and santa Monica (no indication of third street promenade whatsoever). They all look so half-assed, so dense that it isn't even funny anymore. The only area that's spot on is Venice.

Exactly guys

 

How hard would it be for them to create some suburbs around the downtown area ? Even if the city center is the same, at least gives a good bit of surrounding suburbs.

 

We clearly cannot see any sign of these surrounding suburbs, but we still have the Rockstar Defense Force rebuking this, and claiming the city is huge. If Rockstar told them that it was arsenic was lemonade they would still drink it because Rockstar said so.

 

Just where the f**k is that map man ??!!

"Rockstar defense force" lol you guys are childish. It's just a video game.

That's right bro, the RDF are up in this b*tch and they are holdin' it down as much as they can.

 

Lol I never coined that term, someone else did earlier.

Look it's not the RDF's fault if you had unrealistic expectations to begin with. While LS may not be as huge as you expected, it doesn't look small either, like you, Choco and GKP seem to think.

 

Overall, it seems like it has the size of the typical HD era city.

I repeat for the last time: it's not only the size what my worries are:

for example 2 issues:

- how will it feel? does it have that special feeling like Vice City or LS, San Venturas or San Fierro and alsfor now what I have seen from the info we have now I have my doubts

- And personally I want it to be a bit like LA (like Los Santos in GTA San Andreas) with all the different neighbourhoods, so also with sprawling suburbs and different areas but also about that I have my worries

 

but I have the idea these worried are no shared by a lot of others; maybe we should start a new topic for people who are worried about Los Santos and people who are not dont't have to join the discussion

New topic? Because you want to use your idiotic false statements which don't make sense to brainwash gullible fools? HAHAHA. You're so pathetic. We can take the fact that it's your opinion, but half of you are acting like it's a fact.

Cut him some slack 786.

 

From his history in this thread he does actually have a valid corncern in the sense that we didn't much of the suburban part of LS. He's just trying to give an honest opinion and unlike GKP and ChocoTaco doesn't try to persuade people that LS is going to be microscopic.

 

In fact in one of his post he even said that LS was big enough for him, so clearly he's not the problem here.

 

 

Edited May 16, 2013 by Deacon Bosco

[Kifflom112]

I disagree. The city is so important in a GTA. I mean, that is where all of the action is. And the way R* does it - the unique architecture in every neighborhood, the vibe, the sounds, the interior, the people, the everything. The city has always been the soul of a GTA for me. The countryside is awesome, but the city is everything to me.

San Fierro and Las Venturas are also cities. The action isn't solely based in Los Santos, the action begins in Los Santos and progresses through Red County, San Fierro, Las Venturas and the desert in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and most probably will in Grand Theft Auto V too.

Ah... What?

[TheDeaconBosco]

@Official General and Scottish Guy.

 

If you are really expecting HD LS to be the same size of HD LC. Then I'd say that your expectations are quite reasonable.

 

However GKP has admitted that he feels that LS should have been At Least 2 times the size of LC (which is an unrealistic expecation if I ever saw one), and has been since on a man crusade to convince people that LS is nothing short of minuscule.