Map Size Thread

[SuccessPastaTime]

If u don't like GTA5 map size then don't buy the game

Yes, this make sense.

Anybody following this discussion can tell we're not passionate about the game.

 

Do me a favor kid. let your comments graduate, because they sounding a little elementary right now.

People are passionate about it. I can see that, but what I don't understand is why people have to go and call Los Santos a pissant town, or hate Rockstar.

[Irrational]

 

[...]why would you complain about the city size when we havent even seen most of it?[...]

We have seen most of it, and it's small.

Far smaller than Liberty City (without even counting Aderney City).

[brwhizz]

 

If u don't like GTA5 map size then don't buy the game

Yes, this make sense.

Anybody following this discussion can tell we're not passionate about the game.

 

Do me a favor kid. let your comments graduate, because they sounding a little elementary right now.

You obviously have no faith in Rockstar, despite the fact that the one thing that they excel in above all else is in creating atmosphere; if they say that they want to capture a sense of the LA sprawl, then I think we have every reason to believe that they will do this.

[Deffpony]

The topic boils down to this

 

A few members, including myself, feel the downtown LS area does not appear larger than LC as GI stated. While the city appears smaller than we would have liked, it is still acceptable and we will love the game either way. We are merely posting evidence toward the size of LS compared to LC.

 

Some how, this topic snowballed into one side claiming anyone who thinks the city size is too small is "Whining", "Bitching", or "Not true fans" while the other side claims the city size is just unacceptable.

 

As a result we have had name calling and countless childish posts. Pretty typical.

[Cilogy]

 

Do me a favor kid. let your comments graduate, because they sounding a little elementary right now.

 

[UrbanTheEmcee]

 

If u don't like GTA5 map size then don't buy the game

Yes, this make sense.

Anybody following this discussion can tell we're not passionate about the game.

 

Do me a favor kid. let your comments graduate, because they sounding a little elementary right now.

You obviously have no faith in Rockstar, despite the fact that the one thing that they excel in above all else is in creating atmosphere; if they say that they want to capture a sense of the LA sprawl, then I think we have every reason to believe that they will do this.

I get a sense of L.A. from the pics, but this house is missing a few windows, doors, etc..

 

I have faith, but I'm still going to comment on my concerns.

Edited May 16, 2013 by UrbanTheEmcee

[dewan2000]

That's correct, no one outside of the Rockstar offices has seen the entire map of GTA V in its entirety. However, we have seen 90% if not the entire Los Santos area highlighted in countless screenshots and stills taken from the trailers. Which gives us more than enough to accurately map the Los Santos area, which has been done over and over again in the "Mapping Los Santos thread", resulting in the maps that have been posted here countless times.

How can you prove we've seen 90% of the map. Infact if you been following the Mapping of Los Santos Thread it shows that we infact have not seen the whole city. Can't even make a claim we've seen 90% of it. East Los Angeles, so ive heard, has hills. There may be more city over the hill we have seen in a few Screenshots. We have also not seen anything of the far south East area along the coastline. Also there may be more city to the northwest as well.

 

Just because it appears you may have seen everything, doesnt necessarily mean that is all there is. I recall many of us not knowing Alderny would be in GTA 4. Because Rockstar barely showed any of it.

[Triple Vacuum Seal]

The topic boils down to this

 

A few members, including myself, feel the downtown LS area does not appear larger than LC as GI stated. While the city appears smaller than we would have liked, it is still acceptable and we will love the game either way. We are merely posting evidence toward the size of LS compared to LC.

 

Some how, this topic snowballed into one side claiming anyone who thinks the city size is too small is "Whining", "Bitching", or "Not true fans" while the other side claims the city size is just unacceptable.

 

As a result we have had name calling and countless childish posts. Pretty typical.

Pretty much the entire V section to be honest. Can't live with it, can't live without it. That is until V comes out.

[UberVIIX]

If u don't like GTA5 map size then don't buy the game

Do me a favor kid. let your comments graduate, because they sounding a little elementary right now.

That comment is one of the stupidest things I have come across on here...

[Choco Taco]

 

^Was it not said that the land mass made up 3.5 times RDR and with the ocean 5 times RDR?

 

They never said it was just the land mass that was 3.5 times RDR. That area could still include the surface of the detailed part of the ocean. It's 5 times RDR when you include topography.

 

 

 

Choco Taco, I understand that principle now like I did the first time I ever saw it-- if an image has its proportions distorted, as is the case with a fisheye lens (used in GTA V), your method is completely useless. 

 

I'll post this again...

 

Those pictures have about the same amount of distortion. Notice the outward tilt in both images.

 

 

They're very similar and can be compared.

 

 

 

 

[ECDT1089]

 

People in this topic

 

 

Everyone else

 

Instead of popcorn, I eat this:

 

[Gtaghost22]

[...]why would you complain about the city size when we havent even seen most of it?[...]

We have seen most of it, and it's small.

Far smaller than Liberty City (without even counting Aderney City).

You can't prove this.

[bakerach]

 

I'll post this again...

 

Those pictures have about the same amount of distortion.  Notice the outward tilt in both images.

 

 

They're very similar and can be compared.

Wow, you people just don't stop. So many things wrong with what you just posted:

 

- My picture with the yellow lines shows how these 2 screens are taken at different heights

- You have your lines spaced differently. If they're the same scale, the buildings should have the same "leaning" effect at the same distance.

- You're using the word "distortion" to mean the normal effect of vertical edges appearing to "lean" when you aim a camera above or below the horizon. I meant that GTA IV has a fisheye lens type of distortion, which is a completely different effect.

 

Please, stop with the line drawings... mine was to show all of you how futile the methods you're all using really are. All of you, in the words of the great Walter Sobchak: "You're out of your element!"

[98 in 1]

People in this topic

 

 

Everyone else

 

Jesus Christ deff, you could not have hit the nail on the head any better.

 

*goes back to eating popcorn*

[Choco Taco]

- My picture with the yellow lines shows how these 2 screens are taken at different heights

- You have your lines spaced differently. If they're the same scale, the buildings should have the same "leaning" effect at the same distance.

- You're using the word "distortion" to mean the normal effect of vertical edges appearing to "lean" when you aim a camera above or below the horizon. I meant that GTA IV has a fisheye lens type of distortion, which is a completely different effect.

 

Please, stop with the line drawings... mine was to show all of you how futile the methods you're all using really are. All of you, in the words of the great Walter Sobchak: "You're out of your element!"

You mean your picture with the imaginary street lines in Los Santos? You can't see the streets in the picture. You're just making things up.

 

The lines are spaced differently because I just picked buildings that were easy to see. The tilt is similar on both pics when you line them up.

 

Those pictures are close enough to compare.

 

To say they're not comparable is to say that somehow Liberty City could fit inside Los Santos something like this:

 

[Deffpony]

You guys should have a skype argument, record it, and upload it with some funny music in the background

[bakerach]

 

You guys should have a skype argument, record it, and upload it with some funny music in the background

Benny Hill theme with me beating people over the head with logic in the background

[Grand Theft Savage]

You guys should have a skype argument, record it, and upload it with some funny music in the background

I think that's a pretty good idea. Skype debates are hilarious (I've only watched two, both were funny).

[Choco Taco]

You guys should have a skype argument, record it, and upload it with some funny music in the background

Benny Hill theme with me beating people over the head with logic in the background

Is drawing imaginary street lines logical?

[savage10-308]

wow! what a bunch of jack offs! first of all how do you even know that all of los santos is shown in that pic? second of all no one on this entire forum knows how much we have been shown by rockstar. you f*cking dipsh*ts dont even deserve to play this game with all the pissing and moaning you have done. the map is bigger than rockstars three biggest games combined and you jackasses are bitching about how its too small??? go f*ck yourselves

[Raavi]

I give up as evidently the vast majority of people in this thread aren't able or willing to engage in a mature debate. Which renders any discussion or the mere act of substantiating arguments, basically futile. So by all means continue with your mud-trowing, dick measuring contest.

[SeaFoam]

wow! what a bunch of jack offs! first of all how do you even know that all of los santos is shown in that pic? second of all no one on this entire forum knows how much we have been shown by rockstar. you f*cking dipsh*ts dont even deserve to play this game with all the pissing and moaning you have done. the map is bigger than rockstars three biggest games combined and you jackasses are bitching about how its too small??? go f*ck yourselves

Though I don't agree with the majority of your post because no matter their opinions, everyone deserves to get to play. To say otherwise is just silly. Though I will say the area I made bold in your post made me lol.

 

Some screenshots make Los Santos look smaller, and some screenshots make it look massive. Everyone just needs to chill out, quit spouting off "facts" that are not actual facts and have a real discussion on this.

 

In my opinion, Los Santos looks to be a pretty good size and I cannot wait to play in it. I will agree with some others in this thread in that I would love to see some suburbs, but I'm not discounting them not being in JUST because they haven't shown any.

[BasedJACK]

Although I seriously doubt LS is going to be smaller than LC, if it turns out that it is there is nothing that can be done about it. Why you guys have resorted to insulting each other over something you neither fully know about or have control over, I don't know. GTA V is going to be the game of the year, no doubt, but the key word is game.

[savage10-308]

a round of applause for seafoam and basedjack thank you for not being retarded like the rest of this thread

[saul stein]

looks to me to be about 1 1/2 the size of lc,hopefully its double

Edited May 16, 2013 by saul stein

[Cilogy]

I'm not saying this to incite any arguments or unnecessary attacks, but this whole process of scaling screenshots with yellow lines and such just seems rather pointless. We can't be doing that and then call it irrefutable evidence. There's simply too much we haven't seen and haven't been told yet. This negativity about the map is starting to bring down the whole forum section and its getting a little too much to handle. The game looks absolutely beautiful and the land itself looks varied, intresting, like its going to be a lot of fun to play with. Everyone just calm down and wait until we have more info.

[bakerach]

 

I'm not saying this to incite any arguments or unnecessary attacks, but this whole process of scaling screenshots with yellow lines and such just seems rather pointless. We can't be doing that and then call it irrefutable evidence. There's simply too much we haven't seen and haven't been told yet. This negativity about the map is starting to bring down the whole forum section and its getting a little too much to handle. The game looks absolutely beautiful and the land itself looks varied, intresting, like its going to be a lot of fun to play with. Everyone just calm down and wait until we have more info.

My picture with the yellow lines was only made to show how different the perspectives of the 2 shots are, not to make any statement about the size of Los Santos (which I think is huge). The whole reason I made that was to show that you CAN'T use them to compare sizes, just like you said.

[wow it was that easy]

i just joined and im already tired of all the complaining about the biggest game rockstar has ever made, one thats not even out yet by the way

[Meezarawcks]

I'm not saying this to incite any arguments or unnecessary attacks, but this whole process of scaling screenshots with yellow lines and such just seems rather pointless. We can't be doing that and then call it irrefutable evidence. There's simply too much we haven't seen and haven't been told yet. This negativity about the map is starting to bring down the whole forum section and its getting a little too much to handle. The game looks absolutely beautiful and the land itself looks varied, intresting, like its going to be a lot of fun to play with. Everyone just calm down and wait until we have more info.

My picture with the yellow lines was only made to show how different the perspectives of the 2 shots are, not to make any statement about the size of Los Santos (which I think is huge). The whole reason I made that was to show that you CAN'T use them to compare sizes, just like you said.

agreed ....to both of you

[Devyl]

As someone who's been around a while, I've seen this debate before. On EVERY RELEASE. Everyone debates for days, weeks, months... "Is THIS city going to be bigger than THAT city?" The answer is, and has always, stayed the same. Yes.