Map Size Thread

[Kifflom112]

 

lol Raavi. Thats expert analysis your talking about there.

Like your 'expert' analysis?

 

 

Deff - you meant the whole city is 2.3 miles across surely.

 

Check out 1500m (just under one mile in distance on the map...now imagine it squared. And you can see how much 1 sq mile covers a good proprtion of the city.

 

Very approximately +- 10% the golf course is 1 mile from downtown.

 

http://i50.tinypic.com/9qi9vm.jpg

I can't stop laughing! I mean, the hell? How could you think Los Santos would be that small? That sure is an expert analysis, haha.

 

With 82 pages, R* must have seen this page. I bet they had a good laugh at GKP.

[GTAfan786]

 

Mods, can you f*cking consider locking this topic (even though half of you are ignorant). There are FULL retarded kids on here, and we all know what happens when you go full retard.

The mods aren't ignorant, you are. And we're not kids whining, we're having a decent discussion, excluding any rubbish GKP blurts out, lol. Please don't moan about how you want this topic locked. If you don't like it then leave I mean, are you going to die if this never get's locked?

I don't mind if you want a discussion. FFS, i'm getting annoyed with GKP's hypocrisy about getting annoyed with other people's opinions when clearly he is forcing his own opinions on other people. He talks as if its a fact that LS is smaller than LC, when in fact, it's been stated in the GI magazine its bigger than LC, except Downtown is smaller.

Yeah, because GI mapped the whole entirety of Los Santos and compared this to LC, oh wait..

No, they got the statistics from R*, who made the game! Plus they have actually seen the game you complete ignoramus!

Oh really, then it shouldn't be a problem to provide me with an url to where it is stated that they got "statistics" directly from Rockstar Games, would it? So please, do so.

Ironic, seeing as you don't have any stats yourself. Oh wait, your just going to tell me the pathetic reason you've repeated before. Did you see the map at Rockstar? No. So i don't think it's relevant for you to argue anymore. GI saw it with their own eyes, and have a better analysis than CVG, so you don't know what you're talking about. I'm surprised that from a decent minded fan, you've turned into a gullible narrow minded fool believing a 29 year old with the IQ of 1 into the "Useless opinion" that LS is tiny.

[UberVIIX]

This thread is an embarrassment to the GTA community as a whole. The level of maturity and intellect of this forum really shines here. No wonder the general public has a negative outlook about the people who play GTA....

[dxbrandon]

Here's a quick representation of why the Liberty City and Los Santos comparisons aren't valid (Officer General this one's for you).  http://imgur.com/dM3NlnL

 

Like I have been saying, GTA IV used a lot of tricks that GTA V looks to have dropped.  For the people who actually understand what they're looking at in the screenshots/trailers, and who understand that we have maybe seen half of the city in any real detail so far, this city is going to be super badass.

So a bunch of randomly and unevenly drawn yellow lines proof what exactly?

Well first off it shows me that you, and likely most of the other doubters in here, don't really understand camera perspective and how it was manipulated in GTA IV (which is kind of a crucial part of "mapping" the game from screenshots only). These lines in my picture might be a bit uneven, but they are far from random-- I did my best with the low-res image I had to work with. By looking at parallel streets (a bit harder in V since downtown L.A. varies from a grid so much) and roof lines, and then finding the focal point on the horizon, it's easier to get a sense of scale.

 

In Liberty City, Rockstar made distances seem a lot farther away than they actually were by using a fisheye-type lens in the game. That means that things directly in front of you look a lot farther away than they really are. They did that to make the city feel bigger, and also to be able to have a narrower field of view while not making it feel as tight. As we've been told already, the field of view is wider in V, lots of the pop-in issues are gone (taken from the exact same CVG video that people are using to claim the city is 1/8th of the map), and almost none of the screenshots showing the city are from a very wide field of view (Trevor climbing the Vinewood sign is pretty wide, for example).

 

The lines I drew for LC were rough and quick, but fairly accurate (you can try it in Photoshop yourself! Just follow the parallel lines!). The point is that these screens aren't comparable, as I've been saying all along.

Nice man.

[HoboDealer]

 

Mods, can you f*cking consider locking this topic (even though half of you are ignorant). There are FULL retarded kids on here, and we all know what happens when you go full retard.

The mods aren't ignorant, you are. And we're not kids whining, we're having a decent discussion, excluding any rubbish GKP blurts out, lol. Please don't moan about how you want this topic locked. If you don't like it then leave I mean, are you going to die if this never get's locked?

I don't mind if you want a discussion. FFS, i'm getting annoyed with GKP's hypocrisy about getting annoyed with other people's opinions when clearly he is forcing his own opinions on other people. He talks as if its a fact that LS is smaller than LC, when in fact, it's been stated in the GI magazine its bigger than LC, except Downtown is smaller.

Yeah, because GI mapped the whole entirety of Los Santos and compared this to LC, oh wait..

No, they got the statistics from R*, who made the game! Plus they have actually seen the game you complete ignoramus!

Oh really, then it shouldn't be a problem to provide me with an url to where it is stated that they got "statistics" directly from Rockstar Games, would it? So please, do so.

Jesus f*cking christ, do you want me to spoon feed it to you? It should be obvious

Just provide me with that url already. Or were you talking out of your ass?

Nah I'm not gonna waste my time on idiots, sorry bro

[THEICYTROLL]

This thread is an embarrassment to the GTA community as a whole. The level of maturity and intellect of this forum really shines here. No wonder the general public has a negative outlook about the people who play GTA....

It really is, but don't most of the threads end up like this.

[Deffpony]

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Everyone else

 

[Raavi]

 

Mods, can you f*cking consider locking this topic (even though half of you are ignorant). There are FULL retarded kids on here, and we all know what happens when you go full retard.

The mods aren't ignorant, you are. And we're not kids whining, we're having a decent discussion, excluding any rubbish GKP blurts out, lol. Please don't moan about how you want this topic locked. If you don't like it then leave I mean, are you going to die if this never get's locked?

I don't mind if you want a discussion. FFS, i'm getting annoyed with GKP's hypocrisy about getting annoyed with other people's opinions when clearly he is forcing his own opinions on other people. He talks as if its a fact that LS is smaller than LC, when in fact, it's been stated in the GI magazine its bigger than LC, except Downtown is smaller.

Yeah, because GI mapped the whole entirety of Los Santos and compared this to LC, oh wait..

No, they got the statistics from R*, who made the game! Plus they have actually seen the game you complete ignoramus!

Oh really, then it shouldn't be a problem to provide me with an url to where it is stated that they got "statistics" directly from Rockstar Games, would it? So please, do so.

Ironic, seeing as you don't have any stats yourself. Oh wait, your just going to tell me the pathetic reason you've repeated before. Did you see the map at Rockstar? No. So i don't think it's relevant for you to argue anymore.

So you call a meticulously mapped representation of Los Santos a "pathetic reason"? My argument is very valid, unlike people saying "Rockstar said it's big so it will be!!!", "GI, CVG, My uncle's girlfriend son's dog said GTA V's LC will be 10x as big as LC!!!" or something along said lines.

 

@HoboDealer ; i.e "I was talking out of my ass and I didn't possibly think you would actually ask for proof!"

[Official General]

This thread is an embarrassment to the GTA community as a whole. The level of maturity and intellect of this forum really shines here. No wonder the general public has a negative outlook about the people who play GTA....

Bro, you know when you go into a shop thinking you wanna buy something, you have a good look at the product, then decide you don't want it ? Don't like, don't buy.

 

Similar thing here, you don't like, don't post, don't visit. Pretty much a very easy and simple solution.

[The Scottish Guy]

F*ck this. Too many kids who can't reason for sh*t.

 

I'm out.

[SeaFoam]

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Hahaha, perfect timing for the comic relief lol.

[bakerach]

With 82 pages, R* must have seen this page. I bet they had a good laugh at GKP.

That's great, haha. In all this time, I hadn't thought about the idea that they might've seen what some of these people are posting and sat there in their offices, laughing. They might be laughing at GPK... right this very moment...

[dxbrandon]

This thread is an embarrassment to the GTA community as a whole. The level of maturity and intellect of this forum really shines here. No wonder the general public has a negative outlook about the people who play GTA....

It really is, but don't most of the threads end up like this.

Mods will look this thread sooner or later when the time is right for them... Lol

[THEICYTROLL]

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Everyone else

 

Hahaha, perfect timing for the comic relief lol.

Man, I really hate the football refs they are always messing up.

[Official General]

With 82 pages, R* must have seen this page. I bet they had a good laugh at GKP.

That's great, haha. In all this time, I hadn't thought about the idea that they might've seen what some of these people are posting and sat there in their offices, laughing. They might be laughing at GPK... right this very moment...

Or better yet, hopefully they listened to his criticisms, mines and the rest, and decide to make LS even bigger with more suburbs.

[GTAfan786]

Mods, can you f*cking consider locking this topic (even though half of you are ignorant). There are FULL retarded kids on here, and we all know what happens when you go full retard.

The mods aren't ignorant, you are. And we're not kids whining, we're having a decent discussion, excluding any rubbish GKP blurts out, lol. Please don't moan about how you want this topic locked. If you don't like it then leave I mean, are you going to die if this never get's locked?

I don't mind if you want a discussion. FFS, i'm getting annoyed with GKP's hypocrisy about getting annoyed with other people's opinions when clearly he is forcing his own opinions on other people. He talks as if its a fact that LS is smaller than LC, when in fact, it's been stated in the GI magazine its bigger than LC, except Downtown is smaller.

Yeah, because GI mapped the whole entirety of Los Santos and compared this to LC, oh wait..

No, they got the statistics from R*, who made the game! Plus they have actually seen the game you complete ignoramus!

Oh really, then it shouldn't be a problem to provide me with an url to where it is stated that they got "statistics" directly from Rockstar Games, would it? So please, do so.

Ironic, seeing as you don't have any stats yourself. Oh wait, your just going to tell me the pathetic reason you've repeated before. Did you see the map at Rockstar? No. So i don't think it's relevant for you to argue anymore.

So you call a meticulously mapped representation of Los Santos a "pathetic reason"? My argument is very valid, unlike people saying "Rockstar said it's big so it will be!!!", "GI, CVG, My uncle's girlfriend son's dog said GTA V's LC will be 10x as big as LC!!!" or something along said lines.

Yes. You very well know why i said it. It's not valid because it's a FAN MADE map, not an accurate representation. Did Rockstar SPECIFY a map similar to yours or anyone that you know? They didn't right? And for the last time, before you actually turn into a full super saiyan retard, GI WATCHED THE GAMEPLAY themselves, including the map, even though not fully like CVG, however they have a better analysis.

[FAH-Q]

 

The point is that these screens aren't comparable, as I've been saying all along.

 

Thank you!!! Especially since someone on these forums just clunked LC on top of LS in photoshop without knowing if both screens were taken at the exact same distance.

[Kifflom112]

With 82 pages, R* must have seen this page. I bet they had a good laugh at GKP.

That's great, haha. In all this time, I hadn't thought about the idea that they might've seen what some of these people are posting and sat there in their offices, laughing. They might be laughing at GPK... right this very moment...

Or better yet, hopefully they listened to his criticisms, mines and the rest, and decide to make LS even bigger with more suburbs.

That would be good, I must admit. They should listen to the people with logical reasons as to why they think Los Santos is small rather than some guy who likes to go ape sh*t about how small it is and insult anyone who disagrees.

 

I'd love it if they could add suburbia because of this thread. They listened to our no properties complaints.

[Gtaghost22]

There is so much in this thread that is based on little to no hardcore information.

1- Fan made maps. While I DO appreciate someone taking their personal time to create a map that we can talk about, it is based on limited, and possibly inaccurate calculations.

2- Several screens based on the SAME locations, but different angles.

3- Ignoring the FACT that Rockstar isn't going to show everything.

4- Ignoring the FACT that almost every preview has had it's journalists clearly say at one point, or another that the map is MASSIVE. Again, even THEY were only shown specific sections of the map.

You guys have every right to your opinion, but I've never seen such pessimistic people in my life. Especially after so many amazing screenshots, videos and previews from all of the major publications in the industry. Add to that Rockstar's own unrivaled reputation for quality, and history of developing great games. You would think that people wouldn't be assuming the worst.

Good points, mate.

[GTAfan786]

 

With 82 pages, R* must have seen this page. I bet they had a good laugh at GKP.

That's great, haha. In all this time, I hadn't thought about the idea that they might've seen what some of these people are posting and sat there in their offices, laughing. They might be laughing at GPK... right this very moment...

Or better yet, hopefully they listened to his criticisms, mines and the rest, and decide to make LS even bigger with more suburbs.

Or even better yet, they are laughing some of your faces big time. It already is big, we haven't even see most of the map and the city yet. As an official of Rockstar has said, we haven't basically seen the whole game yet.

Edited May 15, 2013 by GTAfan786

[Raavi]

Anyhow kids it's been fun, but we are spinning in the same viscous circle here and subsequently not achieving a god damn thing. We will know more either when the map gets released or when the game releases. From what we know so far LC > LS, let's hope I'm proven wrong.

 

@GTAfan786 ; I suggest you re-read the previews again they didn't actually see the map in its entirety, they merely saw gameplay which as has been proven countless times can be very deceiving. Something that looks like it's 1000m away can in reality be 100m away.

 

Oh and please refrain from personal attacks, totally uncalled for.

Edited May 15, 2013 by Raavi

[SeaFoam]

With 82 pages, R* must have seen this page. I bet they had a good laugh at GKP.

That's great, haha. In all this time, I hadn't thought about the idea that they might've seen what some of these people are posting and sat there in their offices, laughing. They might be laughing at GPK... right this very moment...

Or better yet, hopefully they listened to his criticisms, mines and the rest, and decide to make LS even bigger with more suburbs.

That would be good, I must admit. They should listen to the people with logical reasons as to why they think Los Santos is small rather than some guy who likes to go ape sh*t about how small it is and insult anyone who disagrees.

 

I'd love it if they could add suburbia because of this thread. They listened to our no properties complaints.

Couldn't agree more.

[GrandTheftFan788]

I would think with all the countryside Los Santos would have to be smaller or close to the same size as Liberty City.

[Dutch Psycho]

 

And for the last time, before you actually turn into a full super saiyan retard

 

I'm sorry but that line was f*cking hilarious.

[Choco Taco]

 

The first time I'm going to have to disagree with you Choco. I believe the map will definitely be larger than that.

 

Given the statements from Rockstar, it's possible that the entire map (land and water) will be under 20 square miles.

 

 

 

 

Here's a quick representation of why the Liberty City and Los Santos comparisons aren't valid (Officer General this one's for you).  http://imgur.com/dM3NlnL

 

Like I have been saying, GTA IV used a lot of tricks that GTA V looks to have dropped.  For the people who actually understand what they're looking at in the screenshots/trailers, and who understand that we have maybe seen half of the city in any real detail so far, this city is going to be super badass.

 

Nice try. Let me quote you again here...

 

 

 

You people seem to think its some sort of scientific analysis to draw lines on pictures and act as if that's some legitimate way to deduce scale.

 

Do it the most accurate way. Line up 2 similar sized objects and compare horizontal distances.

[G D]

And for the last time, before you actually turn into a full super saiyan retard

 

I'm sorry but that line was f*cking hilarious.

Agree! lol

 

 

 

This thread is awesome!

 

No moderator is viewing V section, so ready your popcorns it's gonna be a wild night.

[Cilogy]

These threads get more and more hilarious as the pages go by.

 

[73duster]

Anyhow kids it's been fun, but we are spinning in the same viscous circle here and subsequently not achieving a god damn thing. We will know more either when the map gets released or when the game releases. From what we know so far LC > LS, let's hope I'm proven wrong.

 

@GTAfan786 ; I suggest you re-read the previews again they didn't actually see the map in its entirety, they merely saw gameplay which as has been proven countless times can be very deceiving. Something that looks like it's 1000m away can in reality be 100m away.

 

Oh and please refrain from personal attacks, totally uncalled for.

How can you make THIS statement:

"GTAfan786 ; I suggest you re-read the previews again they didn't actually see the map in its entirety, they merely saw gameplay which as has been proven countless times can be very deceiving. Something that looks like it's 1000m away can in reality be 100m away."

and STILL talk negatively about the map? You say that nobody has seen the map in it's ENTIRETY, yet you still act as if you know the map size. Your statements are contradicted by your OWN replies to others.

 

[bakerach]

 

The first time I'm going to have to disagree with you Choco. I believe the map will definitely be larger than that.

 

Given the statements from Rockstar, it's possible that the entire map (land and water) will be under 20 square miles.

 

 

 

 

Here's a quick representation of why the Liberty City and Los Santos comparisons aren't valid (Officer General this one's for you).  http://imgur.com/dM3NlnL

 

Like I have been saying, GTA IV used a lot of tricks that GTA V looks to have dropped.  For the people who actually understand what they're looking at in the screenshots/trailers, and who understand that we have maybe seen half of the city in any real detail so far, this city is going to be super badass.

 

Nice try. Let me quote you again here...

 

 

 

You people seem to think its some sort of scientific analysis to draw lines on pictures and act as if that's some legitimate way to deduce scale.

 

Do it the most accurate way. Line up 2 similar sized objects and compare horizontal distances.

Dude, my picture is to show you exactly why you CAN'T use them to compare scale. You seem to have missed my point.

 

It is entirely possible to look at a picture and determine its perspective-- it is another to determine its scale without knowing anything else about it. My picture shows why the perspectives are different, and therefore why YOUR unscientific line drawing is meaningless.

 

Nice try, though.

[The Scottish Guy]

The first time I'm going to have to disagree with you Choco. I believe the map will definitely be larger than that.

 

Given the statements from Rockstar, it's possible that the entire map (land and water) will be under 20 square miles.

From the whole San Andreas + IV + RDR scale being thrown to us, the map will be a little larger than the speculated graphic you provided there.

 

Then again, we've recently been told the land area will be the equivalent to 3.5x RDR.

 

AHHHHHH, I just don't f*cking know anymore: