Map Size Thread

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

Oh my god this game will be massive and on september 17th this topic will be erased from our brains, granted everyone is satisfied after the game play trailer , but you guys need something to do in the summer.

Look at this fool.

[MARKUS.]

One the things that made SA feel massive was a limited draw distance/fogging out the map early.

 

Even though V is much bigger, it will feel smaller at least in screenshots (not sure when we actually play), because you can see all of it all the time, but how long will it take to travel it? By plane, probably pretty fast, but it's likely a 15 minute drive from south to north. SA took a long time to travel on wheels, V will surely take 3x as long (considering different routes, not a straight line).

 

I think the screenshots make it look small, but when actually playing it you'll be going "wow, it's taking forever to get to that same point I started driving to 10 minutes ago" - so it'll have this other, unique, feeling of scale. Where SA tricked us and really we were traveling very short distances but feeling like we are covering a lot of ground due to disparity in the areas, the diversity, in V, it will be different where we can see where we want to go but it takes forever to get there.

 

 

If you use 10x draw distance mod for GTA SA, it feels TINY. Just because you can see everything, and how fast it approaches - the "hugeness" of SA is a trick on perception (that breaks with the 10x draw distance mod), while in GTA V, the default is to see it all at once - except it truly is large. So where SA was actually much smaller but perception was teased to make it feel huge, GTA V isn't using the same kind (probabaly other, like dynamic fov), and is truly huge, so it will feel very huge, even though it will look small. It will take a long time to travel it, not just feel and look like it did.

 

I think it will shock us all who are concerned, we'll see that mountain all the time, but it'll take ages to get to it. Whereas with 10x draw distance mod, any place you can see chiliad is just a short drive away, GTA V's chiliad will take that long to climb, let alone approach it.

Exactly. Nailed it. Anyone who doesn't agree should just look at photos with the draw distance maximized trough mods and they will see how wrong they are to thing map will feel small.

 

Here's a quick video example:

Got one, there's a bunch, this one shows it well enough, but I'm sure that better can be found (i've seen better, maybe on the mod's planetgta page):

 

You've ruined my teenage playground hahahaa

 

San Andreas is tiny looking at this!

[GTAaLEX117]

 

It is a leaked shot.

 

@Lightning: Those screens look great. But I still dont get the same sense of diversity

Diversity:

 

[lightningun]

 

It is a leaked shot.

 

@Lightning: Those screens look great. But I still dont get the same sense of diversity

Well then I guess you won't be having as much fun as the rest of us. Too bad man.

 

@ the guy above me, great screens as well, forgot about underwater, sa had that too but it was empty and boring.

Edited July 18, 2013 by lightningun

[Deffpony]

 

Deffpony, how can you judge the feeling of a game you haven't played yet? What we can judge are the facts, and they are very impressive. Far more impressive than San Andreas, my fvourite game of all time.

The same way you can judge the gameplay of a game from gameplay videos. Its obviously just an impression. But I can give you the same ridiculous rebuttal the next time you say "LS feels massive." Its impressions, and my impressions arent that its massive in the least bit. Sorry. I wish it were otherwise. But Im open for that to change come September 17.

 

And if you dont understand what Im saying after seeing this image than you never will.

 

http://i.imgur.com/z7ZuqXg.jpg

 

 

 

As far as the draw distance goes, yea I understand that. But I would rather be tricked into feeling its huge when its smaller, than feel like its small when its massive.

 

The fact that they made this feel so much bigger is impressive

Except that saying that this game is massive is fact. GTA V has the largest city R* has ever created --> fact

GTA V is 3.5 times larger than RDR --> fact

 

That picture is exactly the kind of eye balling that you yourself have condemned so often. Things from high up look small. True. But that is a childish way of looking at the map. It is a fact that everything about this map is massive, wether it will feel massive is to be judged September 17, and not from eye balling from pictures from high up.

I dont think you understand what Im saying.

 

As far as what I previously said about eyeballing, I meant that in terms of creating a scaled reference, and I stand by that.

 

But the way a game "feels" can only be interpreted through "eye balling" pre release. Whether or not its 3x's as big as RDR, it feels smaller than that, as well as less diverse than some of us would have hoped.

 

Its just like the car handling. They say the handling is much more like midnight club, and the cars stick to the road. But that doesnt mean the handling "feels" realistic, and alot of people would make that argument based on the gameplay trailer.

 

Like I said, its the impression I get, no matter what the "facts" are. And I am just discussing what gives me that impression despite such facts.

 

@Lex: Sorry but alot of those shots are different sides of the same mountain.

 

@Lightning: Thats not true at all. If the game is fun its fun. And Im more confident than ever that it is. But like I said, "Massive" is not the word that comes to mind when I think of the map at this point

Edited July 18, 2013 by deffpony

[TheBankManager]

 

 

@Lightning: Those screens look great. But I still dont get the same sense of diversity

ur kidding, watch trailer 1, 2 and character trailers and gameplay trailer.

Also take a look at these: just a sip of the diverse invironment

 

 

Now ur getting me excited more for it

Edited July 18, 2013 by TheBankManager

[lazloisdavrock]

WOW.....san andreas really isnt that big....

[GTA54life]

Seriously, how can you even question the diversity? That's such an understatement.

[GTAaLEX117]

 

@Lex: Sorry but alot of those shots are different sides of the same mountain.

 

 

Exactly! And you can just see the difference in terrain and environment on the different sides.

 

Honestly this seems like nitpicking...if people aren't complaining about the size of the city, they have to complain about the diversity of the map...

[Deffpony]

Hmm some of those screens do give a diverse sense. I guess I overlooked how diverse the city itself is as well.

 

I think Im just afraid of over amping this game. Phrases like "Massive", "GOTY", "Sprawling" make me afraid I will get the same disappointment I got from GTA IV's "Living Breathing" "content packed" city.

[GTAaLEX117]

Here's an altitude shot of San Andreas:

 

[GTA54life]

Hmm some of those screens do give a diverse sense. I guess I overlooked how diverse the city itself is as well.

 

I think Im just afraid of over amping this game. Phrases like "Massive", "GOTY", "Sprawling" make me afraid I will get the same disappointment I got from GTA IV's "Living Breathing" "content packed" city.

But you have to think about the fact that IV was the first HD GTA game of this gen, it was still amazing. I guess they did exaggerate the content packed activities though.

[TheBankManager]

Hmm some of those screens do give a diverse sense. I guess I overlooked how diverse the city itself is as well.

 

I think Im just afraid of over amping this game. Phrases like "Massive", "GOTY", "Sprawling" make me afraid I will get the same disappointment I got from GTA IV's "Living Breathing" "content packed" city.

Everyone here knows that deep down you know GTA V will be awesome and massive, but were just spoiling u with these screenshots.

[Eutyphro]

Hmm some of those screens do give a diverse sense. I guess I overlooked how diverse the city itself is as well.

 

I think Im just afraid of over amping this game. Phrases like "Massive", "GOTY", "Sprawling" make me afraid I will get the same disappointment I got from GTA IV's "Living Breathing" "content packed" city.

I agree that GTA IV was overhyped. We all expected GTA IV to be what GTA V will be, and it turned out to be a great game anyway, but the city, though beautiful, had nothing to do in it. And a professional hitman without access to a silenced pistol is just laughable.

 

But we shouldn't judge GTA V based on the failed expectations for IV. GTA V will meet the expectations we had after San Andreas. I'm very confident in that.

[lightningun]

 

@Lightning: Thats not true at all. If the game is fun its fun. And Im more confident than ever that it is. But like I said, "Massive" is not the word that comes to mind when I think of the map at this point

We could go on and on

[WolfbackGames]

On the bright side, at least we'll have the game in our hands in less than 2 months. Yes, less than 2 months. How did that happen? lol

 

Edit: \/ Rofl

Edited July 18, 2013 by WolfbackGames

[Deffpony]

I think im just scared of disappointment guys

 

[lightningun]

^

Lol

[SeaFoam]

I think im just scared of disappointment guys

 

I have a good feeling that most of us (including you too deff) will be completely overwhelmed with the size of the entire map once we get our hands on it

[GTAaLEX117]

 

I think im just scared of disappointment guys

 

 

Well this thread was derailed quickly.

[Deffpony]

I need a cyber hug. No homo...unless your into that kind of thing

[WolfbackGames]

[josephene123]

I need a cyber hug. No homo...unless your into that kind of thing

I believe this is just what happens when we analyse a map in as far detail as we have, I need to take a break from all of the mapping threads...

[GTA54life]

I'd be happy to.

 

*Happily opens big arms"

[mdudee2072]

i am kina worried this is over hyped but i doubt it is,not many of rockstar games have failed to deliver

apparntly the size of Los santos (the main city in the game) is about the size of liberty city???

[TheDeaconBosco]

I think im just scared of disappointment guys

 

 

Don't let it break you Deff, you're a fighter, you're a survivor, you'll make it through it, come on!

 

But seriously, I'm more of a car fan myself, I hang out a lot in the Vehicle's database and try and analyse every trailer, problem is that most of the time we keep seeing the same three cars, almost like R* is taunting us. So trust me, I know what you mean when your expectations are down, but I'm going through it, I just tell myself that R* likes to hide it's content so that we're surprised when we do play it.

 

Not only do I expect a massive vehicle roster, but I expect most cars from IV to return, because that's what they always did and with anywhere from 8 to 16 Gigs of content they might as well have.

 

You need to adopt a similar point of view.

[Official General]

I need a cyber hug. No homo...unless your into that kind of thing

Wait, what are you saying ? You are okay with the doin' homo if it someone's kinda thing ?

 

On topic, I'm happy with LS size so far. But it would have been nice to have it bigger.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I think im just scared of disappointment guys

 

 

Don't let it break you Deff, you're a fighter, you're a survivor, you'll make it through it, come on!

 

But seriously, I'm more of a car fan myself, I hang out a lot in the Vehicle's database and try and analyse every trailer, problem is that most of the time we keep seeing the same three cars, almost like R* is taunting us. So trust me, I know what you mean when your expectations are down, but I'm going through it, I just tell myself that R* likes to hide it's content so that we're surprised when we do play it.

 

Not only do I expect a massive vehicle roster, but I expect most cars from IV to return, because that's what they always did and with anywhere from 8 to 16 Gigs of content they might as well have.

 

You need to adopt a similar point of view.

Right on. I know this is off topic but I hope most cars from IV return instead of just being replaced.

[TheDeaconBosco]

Wait, what are you saying ? You are okay with the doin' homo if it someone's kinda thing ?

 

Always joked about people saying "no homo" saying actually they mean like "No ... Homo "

[Skozza89]

i am kina worried this is over hyped but i doubt it is,not many of rockstar games have failed to deliver

apparntly the size of Los santos (the main city in the game) is about the size of liberty city???

Thats just the city area. The map has been confirmed as 3 times the size i think. so i wouldn't worry. N it seems full of different areas