Map Size Thread

[73duster]

Refuted lex ?...wtf ! - you showed a screenshot of a city block - a small city block - effectively backing up my statement that 5 of those blocks is not a long way. f*cking hell.

 

No it isnt Kjacked..that was disproven a long time ago. All GTA runways are 750m - use your f*cking brains...look at the size of the stadium and try and say that track is 800m from one to the other. Or the fact the half a mile covers more than 2 blocks.

Dude, you are just coming across as a whiny kid who is upset that most of his party abandoned him once they realized they were backing an idiot. At some point you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why so few people agree with you. You seem determined to go down with the ship, rather than admit all of your theories about this stupid argument are just plain WRONG.

[brwhizz]

Br - you know I really think what is worse is the fact that we have waited 5.5 years for V - if this was a 2010 or 2011 release I think the vast majority of my concerns could be written off as being 'bratty' for lack of a better word. I agree. Saying that - its 2013 and I can understand many of the previewers in their opinion of V looking very similar to IV graphically. Note the lack of HDR in the gameplay video - too taxing ?...where is the bright reflections of windscreens etc ?

 

Every GTA has given us larger and larger cities , all of a sudden the 'Moore's Law' of GTA has stopped with V and if anything there is a regression instead of progress - at least in regard to urban action.

Larger and larger cities? Weren't Vice City, Liberty City (GTA 3) and the three cities in San Andreas all about the same size? It makes sense to me that if gta 4 and gta 5 exist in the same universe, cities should be about the same size, which they seem to be: It would be a bit weird if Los Santos was three times the size of Liberty City.

[GKP]

73 duster - whats 'wrong' about what I said - like exactly - with numbers !

 

Wolfback - reported - I hope your not able to post , at least for a little while .

 

VC was a lot larger than LC in III BR - I take your point re being similarly sized except LA covers a much , much larger area than the 5 boroughs in regards to the areas covered in IV. Manhattan , the edge of Queens, bronx etc are all within a smaller radius than LA which is thousands of square miles in size.

Edited July 15, 2013 by GKP

[Ferocious Banger]

Br - you know I really think what is worse is the fact that we have waited 5.5 years for V - if this was a 2010 or 2011 release I think the vast majority of my concerns could be written off as being 'bratty' for lack of a better word. I agree. Saying that - its 2013 and I can understand many of the previewers in their opinion of V looking very similar to IV graphically. Note the lack of HDR in the gameplay video - too taxing ?...where is the bright reflections of windscreens etc ?

 

Every GTA has given us larger and larger cities , all of a sudden the 'Moore's Law' of GTA has stopped with V and if anything there is a regression instead of progress - at least in regard to urban action.

Fun fact: Chicago in Watchdogs, a 2013's next gen game, has a city that is about as big as Los Santos in GTAV.

[GKP]

FB - its a cross generational game. Where did you read that 'fact' ????

[Ferocious Banger]

 

FB - its a cross generational game. Where did you read that 'fact' ????

And GTAV is a current generation game.

Oh, and by the way, where did you read the 'fact' that LS is smaller than LC?

 

Even Ubisoft explained that details in the game world are much more important than just plain size.

Edited July 15, 2013 by Ferocious Banger

[IDredMan]

Br - you know I really think what is worse is the fact that we have waited 5.5 years for V - if this was a 2010 or 2011 release I think the vast majority of my concerns could be written off as being 'bratty' for lack of a better word. I agree. Saying that - its 2013 and I can understand many of the previewers in their opinion of V looking very similar to IV graphically. Note the lack of HDR in the gameplay video - too taxing ?...where is the bright reflections of windscreens etc ?

 

Every GTA has given us larger and larger cities , all of a sudden the 'Moore's Law' of GTA has stopped with V and if anything there is a regression instead of progress - at least in regard to urban action.

So people have made calculations.

Compared screenshots.

Got the equivalent sizes from the blueprint to in-game.

Made comparisons based off of previews.

Dissected the gameplay footage and compared it to the map.

 

All of which prove you wrong.

And your only argument is "It's small." ...

 

 

PS. Only one preview said V looked like IV, IGN... And they got tons of hate once everyone got to see what GTAV REALLY looked like.

[GKP]

FB , so your fact is not a fact - right.

 

 

Idred - all the calculations show that you can JUST ABOUT fit LC landmass only of 3 square miles into LC. Whether you or I consider 3 sq miles as large or small is subjective. I say small , particularly due to a low block count. Why is block count important ?...because you cant drive inbetween em !...over familiarity ie boredom will kill this game after a few months.

 

Oh and the gameplay footage other than being stuttery showed sh*tty graphics. Hardly a step up from IV at all !...

[Knife]

Idred - all the calculations show that you can JUST ABOUT fit LC landmass only of 3 square miles into LC. Whether you or I consider 3 sq miles as large or small is subjective. I say small , particularly due to a low block count. Why is block count important ?...because you cant drive inbetween em !...over familiarity ie boredom will kill this game after a few months.

 

Oh and the gameplay footage other than being stuttery showed sh*tty graphics. Hardly a step up from IV at all !...

So what do you think about the majority of us who don't think the framerates are bad and that the city size is just fine? What I mean is, why do you think you're so disappointed compared to us? Is it because you had very high hopes/expectations for GTA V that weren't met?

[IDredMan]

Oh and the gameplay footage other than being stuttery showed sh*tty graphics. Hardly a step up from IV at all !...

6/10.

Bad troll but some people actually believe you're serious, so I'm obligated to give you something about 5.

[Ferocious Banger]

 

FB , so your fact is not a fact - right

 

Yours isn't a fact who either. But unlike you, I'm not blindly stating my opinions. I've been following both games since and before their announcements and trust me, they've both got cities of comparable sizes .

 

 

Hell, we've even seen it's[Watch Dogs'] twice already.

[brwhizz]

73 duster - whats 'wrong' about what I said - like exactly - with numbers !

 

Wolfback - reported - I hope your not able to post , at least for a little while .

 

VC was a lot larger than LC in III BR - I take your point re being similarly sized except LA covers a much , much larger area than the 5 boroughs in regards to the areas covered in IV. Manhattan , the edge of Queens, bronx etc are all within a smaller radius than LA which is thousands of square miles in size.

Okay, Los Angeles does indeed cover a greater area than New York City, but it's also true that 'the boroughs' of NYC are much, much larger than Manhattan, but that didn't stop Rockstar from making Algonquin larger than Broker, Dukes and Bohan combined, and removing Staten Island altogether; this is a world in which the real-life places are chopped and changed to create an almost movie-version of said places. Unfortunately for you, GTA V is not a game trying to be just like the real LA, but simply to create a city inspired by it.

[Vanzant]

You guys have been warned once today and this is the second time. Quit arguing or there will be warnings and temp bans requested.

[GKP]

What do I think Knife - I think the same as I did of those who said that SA framerates were good. Your not noticing it , because your used to it. I play about 50 50 on PC / console . Microstutters ARE an issue with IV, many people agree, many dont. Not very good observation skills I guess.

 

The city is large enough - you think the slack jawed masses are people I should suddenly sit up and listen to ?...I can use my mind, extrapolate the approximate size and think of the effects of in game action. If your happy. Well done you.

 

Vanzant - Im not arguing with anyone, the newbie posters are quite troublesome though.

 

Idred - thats my opinion, dull textures, low HDR - as the previews said, the screenshots are quite misleading.

Edited July 15, 2013 by GKP

[brwhizz]

What do I think Knife - I think the same as I did of those who said that SA framerates were good. Your not noticing it , because your used to it. I play about 50 50 on PC / console . Microstutters ARE an issue with IV, many people agree, many dont. Not very observation skills I guess.

 

The city is large enough - you think the slack jawed masses are people I should suddenly sit up and listen to ?...I can use my mind, extrapolate the approximate size and think of the effects of in game action. If your happy. Well done you.

We're the 'slack-jawed masses', apparently: GKP, you've going to be one very lonely individual with an attitude like that. Good luck with life - you're going to need it.

[TheDeaconBosco]

The impatient gamers who get bored with a 10 minute drive dont deserve respect. They are nothing.

[Knife]

What do I think Knife - I think the same as I did of those who said that SA framerates were good. Your not noticing it , because your used to it. I play about 50 50 on PC / console . Microstutters ARE an issue with IV, many people agree, many dont. Not very observation skills I guess.

I expect there are little stutters that a select few notice that your average joe doesn't. That must be frustrating and annoying, but I don't think that Rockstar can do anything about it without putting less things on the screen or cutting certain other graphical elements. It's unfortunate for you and those who notice.

 

But that's why you've got to cross your fingers for the PC version, which I really do think will come along next year.

[bakerach]

The main point that everyone should realize is that GKP and cockotaco know exactly as much about the game as everyone else, but due to their tiny genitals and massive inferiority complexes, they bitch to strangers on the internet all day over a VIDEOGAME that they have NEVER PLAYED. It's almost laughable if they weren't so pathetic and obnoxious about it. The best thing to do is ignore them in the threads and just send them PMs to let them know what massive bellends they are.

 

They don't know anything more about the game then you or me-- just keep that in mind when trying to convince them how irrational they are.

[Ferocious Banger]

What do I think Knife - I think the same as I did of those who said that SA framerates were good. Your not noticing it , because your used to it. I play about 50 50 on PC / console . Microstutters ARE an issue with IV, many people agree, many dont. Not very observation skills I guess.

 

The city is large enough - you think the slack jawed masses are people I should suddenly sit up and listen to ?...I can use my mind, extrapolate the approximate size and think of the effects of in game action. If your happy. Well done you.

 

Vanzant - Im not arguing with anyone, the newbie posters are quite troublesome though.

Sadly, you neither look at GTAlex has calculated nor have you done any calculation yourself, let alone a legit one.

 

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Once again, Watchdogs- a game built ON PC- has a city that is comparable to LS. It's a "2013's game ". It's a game built with next generation in mind!

[GKP]

Knife - hence why I play MP 99% of the time in IV where peds and cars can be taken out - take a look the difference if quite striking. Far better for racing as well.

 

BrWhizz - just the way I feel. At least in regard to gamers.

 

Except Choco has done a TON of analysis Bake , all you have done is be offensive to me with no good reason. Reported , hope you get banned for a while.

Edited July 15, 2013 by GKP

[kjacked]

I know people are frustrated by GKP's opinions but can we keep things more civil? If you don't like his points or think he's wrong, explain calmly why. It's just nonsense arguing at the moment.

keep it more civil? he just called us all bitches in his last post... am i missing something?

[GKP]

You mean the tongue in cheek reference on the map Kjacked ..lol your fooling no-one...

[Ferocious Banger]

 

You mean the tongue in cheek reference on the map Kjacked ..lol your fooling no-one...

I like how conveniently you have ignored my replies.

Edited July 15, 2013 by Ferocious Banger

[brwhizz]

You guys have been warned once today and this is the second time. Quit arguing or there will be warnings and temp bans requested.

Who exactly is this aimed at? We're all arguing/debating are we not? That's the whole point of this thread.

[GKP]

Forgive me if im wrong FB but did he not come to a similar conclusion to Choco...its plus or minus 10% the size of LS landmass only.

 

No Br - most are being rude assholes to me actually and not debating the points I raise. You included.

[kjacked]

You mean the tongue in cheek reference on the map Kjacked ..lol your fooling no-one...

what are you talking about? im not doing anything but pointing out the name calling and cursing by you. the mods and wannabe mods ignore this yet get mad at everyone else for reacting to your pisspoor attempt at trolling. i got a 3 day timeout last week because i didnt say "how high" when k^2 said "jump" but you can insult everyone here and continue to post ridiculous nonsense while calling forum members bitches?

 

OT: los santos appears to be 20% bigger than gta iv and the horsetrack was never proven to not be slightly less than a half mile....

[GKP]

It isnt not half a mile from one end to the other ! 2 city blocks would NEVER equate to 800m . THINK !

 

I have not cursed without being driven to by the abuse of others.

[Ferocious Banger]

Forgive me if im wrong FB but did he not come to a similar conclusion to Choco...its plus or minus 10% the size of LS landmass only.

 

No Br - most are being rude assholes to me actually and not debating the points I raise. You included.

I'd like to say a few things to you:

-Nothing can be changed now, with the game all set to go gold next month.

-I get what you are saying, but to me and most other ex-doubters, the city looks bigger, much bigger than it looked like before. More blocks that were not in the blueprint can be spotted, and one small little block houses 8 houses.

-Kindly play MCLA. That game felt massive even THOUGH LS is a good 40 percentage larger than MCLA -including- the South Central LA pack. That game felt large enough even in it's vanilla form.

[YouthGamer]

This thread got interesting now that GKP is the only dog in the pit when everyone now seems to like the game and the map, now hes getting stepped on by everyone

I love when he lost hes still persistant to take a beating even more and more.

[kjacked]

It isnt not half a mile from one end to the other ! 2 city blocks would NEVER equate to 800m . THINK !

 

I have not cursed without being driven to by the abuse of others.

so your justifying your childish actions by pointing out the actions of others? my four year old nephew is above that. grow up and quit cursing people and calling names. youre an adult, act like it.

 

OT: the track wouldnt be exactly a half mile long. the track from start to finish is a mile long. the track from end to end has to be further than 400m because the straights are longer than the turns. also, the track would have to be less than a half mile long because some of the mile long distance is used up in the turns. as pointed out, since the straightaways are longer than the turns, the length of the track from end to end would likely be somewhere in the neighborhood of 600m.