Map Size Thread

[Choco Taco]

are you blind

You seem confused. What point are you trying to make?

[wallis]

 

Also, if you don't believe the runway comparison, there are a lot more reference points around, like these:

 

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r597/AlexXD94/SA-V2.jpg

I'm bored...

 

That size would make the grids .8 mile or 1.3 km. It's unlikely they'd make grids that distance.

I don't really care about "precise" grid lines, I'm just comparing in-game reference points, and by making the runways the same width (like they are in-game) all the other reference points match as well.

 

And I'd also like to add this: http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r597/A...eRdVHighway.jpg

 

So again, I don't really trust those grid lines to be exact.

I trust the grid lines. It all just adds up and makes perfect sense. Magic Al has figured it out. Grids are 1km. Grid lines of 1.3km or 0.8 of a mile just don't make sense. Plus when he compares it to cars being 1.8m wide it all just adds up. To me LS is at least 90% the size of LC landmass judging by Magic Als pics of both maps together. LS feels big, but alot of ppl are forgetting just how big LC is.

@Lex. Can you do a LC landmass clumped together next to a LS using the grids at 1km so we can see how it looks.

Edited July 11, 2013 by wallis

[GTAaLEX117]

 

I trust the grid lines. It all just adds up and makes perfect sense. Magic Al has figured it out. Grids are 1km. Grid lines of 1.3km or 0.8 of a mile just don't make sense. Plus when he compares it to cars being 1.8m wide it all just adds up. To me LS is at least 90% the size of LC landmass judging by Magic Als pics of both maps together. LS feels big, but alot of ppl are forgetting just how big LC is.

I guess we agree to disagree. For me, having those grid lines be precisely 1km makes LC ridiculously big, and after seeing the gameplay trailer where LS had absolutely massive streets and blocks, I just don't think that's possible.

 

The best comparison I can make is this: http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r597/A...eRdVHighway.jpg

In this image, you can clearly see that LS is smaller if those two highways are the same width...but honestly the LS one is even bigger.

 

I can't really do anything precise until Al releases a high-res version of that map scaling.

 

Edit: Using the scale in my image from above, this is how big LC + water is compared to LS.

 

Edited July 11, 2013 by GTAaLEX117

[wallis]

 

Scale of blueprint determined:  the grid units are 1km.

 

Most people here don't understand what that means. Give them the good news in an easy to understand comparison picture.

I don't know if everyone will think it's "good news" but it works out like this.

 

I wouldn't say LC looks ridiculously big in this map comparo. It would be good to see how LC landmass clumped together looks to the LS here. I think LS would be at least 90% the size of LC.

[GTAaLEX117]

 

I wouldn't say LC looks ridiculously big in this map comparo. It would be good to see how LC landmass clumped together looks to the LS here. I think LS would be at least 90% the size of LC.

After studying those roads, highways and blocks for so much time, I'd definitely say that LC is oversized.

Again, I haven't heard a single reasonable argument as to why my scale above wouldn't work as long as the roads are scaled appropriately (and they seem to be).

[josephene123]

 

If that's indeed the horse track then this city looks f*cking massive from this perspective

[reform]

The game is in Vice City not Los Santos, lol.

[œaœa]

are you blind

You seem confused. What point are you trying to make?

Those two photos are taken at very different perspectives.

[josephene123]

 

I trust the grid lines. It all just adds up and makes perfect sense. Magic Al has figured it out. Grids are 1km. Grid lines of 1.3km or 0.8 of a mile just don't make sense. Plus when he compares it to cars being 1.8m wide it all just adds up. To me LS is at least 90% the size of LC landmass judging by Magic Als pics of both maps together. LS feels big, but alot of ppl are forgetting just how big LC is.

 

 

The horse track in this photo looks far too large to only be, like, a third of the length of the runway in IV. Obviously perspective is a factor here, though

 

Edit: Oops, I quoted the wrong sh*t, but you get what I mean. Magic Al's comparison on the 1km grids just look weird here

Edited July 11, 2013 by josephene123

[Trund]

 

Also, if you don't believe the runway comparison, there are a lot more reference points around, like these:

 

I don't like this comparison. Things in GTA SA had no real world size, everything was extremely small. The highway intersection for example was a joke and felt like a toy car game, same with the length of the runway, and the pier was extremely little as well. GTA SA was more like a miniature city compared to real world sizes, in GTA V things actually look way more accurate.

[The__Phoenix]

If that's indeed the horse track then this city looks f*cking massive from this perspective

The world looks massive, not LS itself. It´s the variety of landscapes, that fascinating ecosystem, not the size of Los Santos. Still, LS is not bigger than LC.

[Ferocious Banger]

If that's indeed the horse track then this city looks f*cking massive from this perspective

The world looks massive, not LS itself. It´s the variety of landscapes, that fascinating ecosystem, not the size of Los Santos. Still, LS is not bigger than LC.

But it looks and feels bigger, thanks to the continuous stretch of land and the dense look.

[Marty892]

 

Also, if you don't believe the runway comparison, there are a lot more reference points around, like these:

 

I don't like this comparison. Things in GTA SA had no real world size, everything was extremely small. The highway intersection for example was a joke and felt like a toy car game, same with the length of the runway, and the pier was extremely little as well. GTA SA was more like a miniature city compared to real world sizes, in GTA V things actually look way more accurate.

I'm glad that someone finally noticed that. Comparison between GTA 4 map and Los Santos are fine in this thread (in my opinion about 90% accurate) but comparsions with SA map are almost always ridiculous. GTA 4 is about 75-80% of whole SA map, not 40-50%. People need to realize that, what makes GTA:SA soo omg f**kin big11!!! is Draw Distance which is really small.

 

Anyway, look at the map, Pier from SA cant be the same size in GTA 5:

 

 

[kasa]

Also, if you don't believe the runway comparison, there are a lot more reference points around, like these:

 

I don't like this comparison. Things in GTA SA had no real world size, everything was extremely small. The highway intersection for example was a joke and felt like a toy car game, same with the length of the runway, and the pier was extremely little as well. GTA SA was more like a miniature city compared to real world sizes, in GTA V things actually look way more accurate.

I'm glad that someone finally noticed that. Comparison between GTA 4 map and Los Santos are fine in this thread (in my opinion about 90% accurate) but comparsions with SA map are almost always ridiculous. GTA 4 is about 75-80% of whole SA map, not 40-50%. People need to realize that, what makes GTA:SA soo omg f**kin big11!!! is Draw Distance which is really small.

 

Anyway, look at the map, Pier from SA cant be the same size in GTA 5:

 

 

Im quie sure the Angel Pine (village under Mount Chilliad) is also in the game

[GTAaLEX117]

 

Also, if you don't believe the runway comparison, there are a lot more reference points around, like these:

 

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r597/AlexXD94/SA-V2.jpg

I don't like this comparison. Things in GTA SA had no real world size, everything was extremely small. The highway intersection for example was a joke and felt like a toy car game, same with the length of the runway, and the pier was extremely little as well. GTA SA was more like a miniature city compared to real world sizes, in GTA V things actually look way more accurate.

The smaller the SA world, the bigger V is compared to it.

The reason I scaled it this way was this:

[GTAaLEX117]

 

If that's indeed the horse track then this city looks f*cking massive from this perspective

The world looks massive, not LS itself. It´s the variety of landscapes, that fascinating ecosystem, not the size of Los Santos. Still, LS is not bigger than LC.

Landmass wise, it might just be. It's certainly not smaller. If you do include the water, LS is definitely wider.

Look at this:

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r597/A...eRdVHighway.jpg

and this

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r597/A...4/LSLCcomp2.jpg

 

Also, sorry for double posting.

[Choco Taco]

Those two photos are taken at very different perspectives.

That doesn't matter since I'm lining up horizontal distance.

 

 

 

I'm laughing at all of the people who said the size debate was settled a couple of days ago.

 

 

[josephene123]

I'm laughing at all of the people who said the size debate was settled a couple of days ago.

And they laugh straight back at ya

[GTAaLEX117]

I'm laughing at all of the people who said the size debate was settled a couple of days ago.

The LC vs LS size debate is pretty much over (even GKP gave up after the gameplay trailer), the SA vs LS size comparison is not.

[Ferocious Banger]

I'm laughing at all of the people who said the size debate was settled a couple of days ago. 

The LC vs LS size debate is pretty much over (even GKP gave up after the gameplay trailer), the SA vs LS size comparison is not.

GKP gave in? o_O

 

 

[Choco Taco]

The LC vs LS size debate is pretty much over

Only a fool would believe it's over since nothing has been determined.

 

Compare the horizontal distances. Look at the heights of the Chrysler Building and Bank Tower and look at the road widths.

 

 

 

[Dale Nixon]

choco tAco you need to go out and get laid man

[bakerach]

Those two photos are taken at very different perspectives.

That doesn't matter since I'm lining up horizontal distance.

 

 

 

I'm laughing at all of the people who said the size debate was settled a couple of days ago.

Haha, ChunkyTaco the perspective master rears his ugly head again...

[Choco Taco]

choco tAco you need to go out and get laid man

I see you don't have the intelligence to refute my post.

[GTAaLEX117]

 

The LC vs LS size debate is pretty much over

Only a fool would believe it's over since nothing has been determined.

 

Compare the horizontal distances. Look at the heights of the Chrysler Building and Bank Tower and look at the road widths.

 

http://i.imgur.com/KLi4VGa.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/lgq8bvS.jpg

Well there are some people around here who will never be convinced until they play the game, like yourself. I believe the majority was convinced that LS was pretty big after the gameplay trailer.

 

Also, stop using the buildings as reference points. Deffpony already proved that they are not scaled appropriately compared to their real life equivalents, case in point the Bonaventure being much taller than in real life (compared to the Bank tower).

[GTAVwillbeEPIC]

Choco, what the f*ck are you comparing?

[Dale Nixon]

choco tAco you need to go out and get laid man

I see you don't have the intelligence to refute my post.

lol 100% virgin confirmed

[Official General]

@ Choco Taco

 

Really, my advice is to give it up. The LS v LC size debate is effectively over. LS clearly looks bigger than what we thought it would be. The screenshots did initially make LS look a bit small. The blueprint map had me, you, GKP, deffpony and some others even more convinced that LS was not big. The zoom-in feature in the video now shows us that LS is indeed big and feels big. We should just be happy that we were proved wrong, it's what we wanted all along.

[josephene123]

choco tAco you need to go out and get laid man

I see you don't have the intelligence to refute my post.

I don't think anyone here thinks there is anything to refute

[Ferocious Banger]

@ Choco Taco

 

Really, my advice is to give it up. The LS v LC size debate is effectively over. LS clearly looks bigger than what we thought it would be. The screenshots did initially make LS look a bit small. The blueprint map had me, you, GKP, deffpony and some others even more convinced that LS was not big. The zoom-in feature in the video now shows us that LS is indeed big and feels big. We should just be happy that we were proved wrong, it's what we wanted all along.

Pretty much. Remember how even I was in the anti-RDF for a while?