Map Size Thread

[Ferocious Banger]

So, if SA is half scale of FC3, then it is definitely possible that it is also half scale of RDR and GTA V, maybe even GTA IV too.

 

 

 

 

If it's half scale of RDR and V, why wouldn't it be for IV as well? It wouldn't make sense for IV and V to have different scales.

 

If a mile in SA is a half mile in IV, you get this:

 

that scale is definetly wrong. where do u have those stupid informations? did u ever watch this topic from the beginning? sa is more than two times as large as lc!

Choco and a few others have been an integral part of this topic.

[TheDeaconBosco]

So, if SA is half scale of FC3, then it is definitely possible that it is also half scale of RDR and GTA V, maybe even GTA IV too.

 

 

 

 

If it's half scale of RDR and V, why wouldn't it be for IV as well? It wouldn't make sense for IV and V to have different scales.

 

If a mile in SA is a half mile in IV, you get this:

 

that scale is definetly wrong. where do u have those stupid informations? did u ever watch this topic from the beginning? sa is more than two times as large as lc!

He's not saying that's the right scale, he's just saying that's what the scale would be if a mile in SA is a half mile in IV.

 

Try to read before you post instead of just looking at the pictures kinda like a book, yeah?

[bakerach]

Also, there's a reason you and bakerach say things about me. It's because I made you both look stupid and you're mad about it. Every time you two call me names, I know it's because you're upset and I laugh about how I made you look like fools.

LOL

[josephene123]

Also, there's a reason you and bakerach say things about me.  It's because I made you both look stupid and you're mad about it.  Every time you two call me names, I know it's because you're upset and I laugh about how I made you look like fools.

LOL

Earlier I found you quite constructive but now you seemed to have lost your way a little, and I don't know why

 

Then again, I don't think you give a sh*t what I think hahahahaha

[Eutyphro]

I don't know. If scale of all these games is different, there is no way of comparing apart from just roaming around and getting a "feel" of how big the area you are in is

You sir, have stumbled upon the same idea as what I said 2 pages back.Well done

[bakerach]

Also, there's a reason you and bakerach say things about me.  It's because I made you both look stupid and you're mad about it.  Every time you two call me names, I know it's because you're upset and I laugh about how I made you look like fools.

LOL

Earlier I found you quite constructive but now you seemed to have lost your way a little, and I don't know why

 

Then again, I don't think you give a sh*t what I think hahahahaha

There hasn't been new info in a while to be constructive, so I'm getting a bit off topic-- I apologize, and will work to restore my honor.

 

But really, I started off just pointing out the bad logic/inconsistencies/general lack of understanding from posters like GKP and chocotaco. It seems GPK finally gave up after I discredited both him and his troll account, but chacotaco just keeps going. The only thing he hangs into is that his bad screenshot comparison (which I thoroughly debunked) gave him a scale which is close to the scales we constructive posters came to logically-- and his was close through nothing more than luck. Now that he's realizing we know the general size of the city, he's trying to change his definition of "tiny" (a recent post had him claiming 6 sq miles is the insignificant "room to spare").

 

But you're right, and I'll stop stooping to their level.

[AceHigh11]

The people here who think RDR is twice as big as SA base this on something R* has said? How come this information is so obscure and not widely spread/known?

Also, if you believe that to be true, it does contradict with other things R* have said/shown. (the "room to spare" counter argument is laughable, that won't be a very large area)

 

Great comparisons by fatality btw, I haven't seen those.

[GlitzyTomb]

San Andreas still FEELS like the biggest Rockstar game to me thus far.

 

Whether it is or not in relation to character size, walking speed, and vehicle speed....I dunno...

 

It certainly felt bigger though.

 

 

 

I really hope GTAV puts it to shame, but even if it doesn't as long as it feels bigger than IV I'm going to be pretty bloody happy.

[dyz]

San Andreas still FEELS like the biggest Rockstar game to me thus far.

 

Whether it is or not in relation to character size, walking speed, and vehicle speed....I dunno...

 

It certainly felt bigger though.

 

 

 

I really hope GTAV puts it to shame, but even if it doesn't as long as it feels bigger than IV I'm going to be pretty bloody happy.

GTA SA is the biggest map in till GTA 5.

[dee8ball]

So, if SA is half scale of FC3, then it is definitely possible that it is also half scale of RDR and GTA V, maybe even GTA IV too.

 

 

 

 

If it's half scale of RDR and V, why wouldn't it be for IV as well? It wouldn't make sense for IV and V to have different scales.

 

If a mile in SA is a half mile in IV, you get this:

 

that scale is definetly wrong. where do u have those stupid informations? did u ever watch this topic from the beginning? sa is more than two times as large as lc!

He's not saying that's the right scale, he's just saying that's what the scale would be if a mile in SA is a half mile in IV.

 

Try to read before you post instead of just looking at the pictures kinda like a book, yeah?

Yeah!

I mean what kind of dumbass would believe that liberty city is larger than san andreas.

Oh wait savage already believes that as you can tell by his signature. (Which he will probably change)

 

[Choco Taco]

 

The only thing he hangs into is that his bad screenshot comparison (which I thoroughly debunked)

 

You keep saying that, but you've debunked nothing. Go ahead and give us a link to this debunking. Let me embarrass you again...

 

Everybody,

 

This is my reply to bakerach's "perspective drawing":

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1062515510

 

He has never offered any explanation.

 

 

 

 

and his was close through nothing more than luck.

 

Yeah, that's it. Pure luck. This is at the size you agreed upon -

 

 

Look at all that luck. I had the city that size since last year.

 

 

 

a recent post had him claiming 6 sq miles is the insignificant "room to spare"

 

 

Wow, another desperate lie from bakerach. That was to prove that RDR can't be larger than SA when applying the 3.5 X RDR / SA + IV + RDR measurements.

[bakerach]

Chacko. for the last time, I've offered plenty of explanations- you just don't want to accept them. If you can't glance at my debunking of your attempt and see in .2 seconds how I reached that conclusion, you have no business posting in this thread- but I'm sure you will, like you always do, so best of luck to you.

 

Ps that little red map you posted shows the city about 2x its actual size

[Deffpony]

I think some people are taking this too seriously. There have been alot of scales projected and I think we have a good estimate for the range at which Los Santos' size will be compared to Liberty City.

 

I disagree with a few methods of finding such a scale but at the end of the day we are working with half truths and assumptions, so there is no exact answer. Anything beyond the last 5-10 scales determined is just useless bickering.

 

Pick a scale, wait til september, and see if it was right.

[Choco Taco]

 

Chacko. for the last time, I've offered plenty of explanations

 

Yet you can't provide a link showing your explanations. You've never explained why you ignored the alignment of most buildings and why you drew imaginary streets.

 

 

 

Ps that little red map you posted shows the city about 2x its actual size

 

Now everybody knows you're delusional and/or a liar.

[SaVaGe308]

 

The only thing he hangs into is that his bad screenshot comparison (which I thoroughly debunked)

 

You keep saying that, but you've debunked nothing. Go ahead and give us a link to this debunking. Let me embarrass you again...

 

Everybody,

 

This is my reply to bakerach's "perspective drawing":

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1062515510

 

He has never offered any explanation.

 

 

 

 

and his was close through nothing more than luck.

 

Yeah, that's it. Pure luck. This is at the size you agreed upon -

 

 

Look at all that luck. I had the city that size since last year.

 

 

 

a recent post had him claiming 6 sq miles is the insignificant "room to spare"

 

 

Wow, another desperate lie from bakerach. That was to prove that RDR can't be larger than SA when applying the 3.5 X RDR / SA + IV + RDR measurements.

for the last time... you goofy son of a bitch!!!! you know that isnt the correct formula. you will find the correct formula in my signature.

 

(GTA V) > (GTA San Andreas) + (GTA IV) + (RDR) + (X)

 

you keep saying some bullsh*t about gta v=gta sa+gta iv+rdr... nobody ever f*cking said that but you. you pulled that out of your ass. the real equation is above, and in my signature. the quote from rockstar was "GTA V is BIGGER than GTA San Andreas, GTA IV, and RDR combined, WITH ROOM TO SPARE". Please enlighten us to how you came up with your bullsh*t equation and please tell me why the equation i have provided is incorrect.

 

@douchebag... i mean dee8ball, i changed it just to hear you bitch... worked like a charm!

Edited June 7, 2013 by SaVaGe308

[josephene123]

The only thing he hangs into is that his bad screenshot comparison (which I thoroughly debunked)

 

You keep saying that, but you've debunked nothing. Go ahead and give us a link to this debunking. Let me embarrass you again...

 

Everybody,

 

This is my reply to bakerach's "perspective drawing":

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1062515510

 

He has never offered any explanation.

 

 

 

 

and his was close through nothing more than luck.

 

Yeah, that's it. Pure luck. This is at the size you agreed upon -

 

 

Look at all that luck. I had the city that size since last year.

 

 

 

a recent post had him claiming 6 sq miles is the insignificant "room to spare"

 

 

Wow, another desperate lie from bakerach. That was to prove that RDR can't be larger than SA when applying the 3.5 X RDR / SA + IV + RDR measurements.

for the last time... you goofy son of a bitch!!!! you know that isnt the correct formula. you will find the correct formula in my signature.

 

(GTA V) > (GTA San Andreas) + (GTA IV) + (RDR) + (X)

 

you keep saying some bullsh*t about gta v=gta sa+gta iv+rdr... nobody ever f*cking said that but you. you pulled that out of your ass. the real equation is above, and in my signature. the quote from rockstar was "GTA V is BIGGER than GTA San Andreas, GTA IV, and RDR combined, WITH ROOM TO SPARE". Please enlighten us to how you came up with your bullsh*t equation and please tell me why the equation i have provided is incorrect.

 

@douchebag... i mean dee8ball, i changed it just to hear you bitch... worked like a charm!

Are you saying that you think that the "room to spare" is actually about 40 sq m?

[SaVaGe308]

The only thing he hangs into is that his bad screenshot comparison (which I thoroughly debunked)

 

You keep saying that, but you've debunked nothing. Go ahead and give us a link to this debunking. Let me embarrass you again...

 

Everybody,

 

This is my reply to bakerach's "perspective drawing":

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1062515510

 

He has never offered any explanation.

 

 

 

 

and his was close through nothing more than luck.

 

Yeah, that's it. Pure luck. This is at the size you agreed upon -

 

 

Look at all that luck. I had the city that size since last year.

 

 

 

a recent post had him claiming 6 sq miles is the insignificant "room to spare"

 

 

Wow, another desperate lie from bakerach. That was to prove that RDR can't be larger than SA when applying the 3.5 X RDR / SA + IV + RDR measurements.

for the last time... you goofy son of a bitch!!!! you know that isnt the correct formula. you will find the correct formula in my signature.

 

(GTA V) > (GTA San Andreas) + (GTA IV) + (RDR) + (X)

 

you keep saying some bullsh*t about gta v=gta sa+gta iv+rdr... nobody ever f*cking said that but you. you pulled that out of your ass. the real equation is above, and in my signature. the quote from rockstar was "GTA V is BIGGER than GTA San Andreas, GTA IV, and RDR combined, WITH ROOM TO SPARE". Please enlighten us to how you came up with your bullsh*t equation and please tell me why the equation i have provided is incorrect.

 

@douchebag... i mean dee8ball, i changed it just to hear you bitch... worked like a charm!

Are you saying that you think that the "room to spare" is actually about 40 sq m?

yeah thats exactly what i said... let me find it in my post... hold on a second.... wait... no. no i didnt say that. once again you are trying to put words in my mouth.

[Choco Taco]

the quote from rockstar was "GTA V is BIGGER than GTA San Andreas, GTA IV, and RDR combined, WITH ROOM TO SPARE".

Wrong.

 

You don't include both "bigger" and "room to spare" in the same description.

 

 

There's a reason they didn't say bigger than SA, IV, RDR, and Vice City combined. It's because the "room to spare" that gets mentioned is smaller than VC.

[GlitzyTomb]

I suppose both = and > (and even <) would be true until "room to spare" is better defined.

 

GTAV > IV + SA + RDR + Room To Spare wherein Room To Spare is less than GTAV - IV -SA - RDR

 

GTAV = IV + SA + RDR + Room To Spare wherein Room To Spare is equal to GTAV - IV - SA - RDR

 

GTAV < IV + SA + RDR + Room To Spare wherein Room To Spare is greater than GTAV - IV - SA - RDR

 

 

 

You can't really make that assumption ChocoTaco. You may well be correct, but then again they may well just be listing the two more recent games and the last game set in the same general area.

 

Room To Spare may well be bigger than Vice City

Edited June 7, 2013 by GlitzyTomb

[SaVaGe308]

the quote from rockstar was "GTA V is BIGGER than GTA San Andreas, GTA IV, and RDR combined, WITH ROOM TO SPARE".

RIGHT. (went ahead and changed this for you)

 

You don't include both "bigger" and "room to spare" in the same description.

 

 

There's a reason they didn't say bigger than SA, IV, RDR, and Vice City combined. It's because the "room to spare" that gets mentioned is smaller than VC.

does anything but smelly bullsh*t fall out of that mouth of yours?

 

The revelation came via last night's GTA 5 Game Informer blowout, which claimed that, "when you include interior and exterior spaces together, Los Santos is bigger than the worlds of Red Dead Redemption, San Andreas and Grand Theft Auto IV combined, with room to spare."

 

 

http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/gta5/news/gt...n_combined.html

 

do a little research or reading before you run off at the mouth little man. it'll make you look like less of a dumbass in the future. my equation is correct.

[GTAaLEX117]

There's a reason they didn't say bigger than SA, IV, RDR, and Vice City combined. It's because the "room to spare" that gets mentioned is smaller than VC.

Now that's some pretty flawed logic.

They didn't say how big the "room to spare" was because they either didn't calculate it, or simply didn't want people to know how big it is.

[Backfire6]

Why are we still talking about the size? It's already been discussed and confirmed. There is nothing else to say about it.

[josephene123]

yeah thats exactly what i said... let me find it in my post... hold on a second.... wait... no. no i didnt say that. once again you are trying to put words in my mouth.

No need to be so aggressive when I'm clearly asking a question for clarification rather than "trying to put words" in your mouth.

 

Here's where you've got me confused:

 

If RDR is 'roughly' twice the size of SA, then it's 'roughly' 28 square miles, right? 28 x 3.5 = 98 square miles, so that's ROUGHLY what We should be expecting from the land mass of GTA V, right?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere, but if GTA IV is about 6.5 square miles, GTA SA is about 13.9 miles, and RDR is about 28 miles, then that makes GTA V 48.4 square miles. Which doesn't match up with their statement about it being 3.5 x RDR if RDR is indeed 'roughly' 28 square miles.

 

Except Rockstar said it's the size of them three with 'room to spare', but if it is to match up with their statement about GTA V being 3.5 x RDR with RDR being 'roughly' 28 square miles, then surely the 'room to spare' has to add up to about 40 square miles... right?

[DarrinPA]

So far I have yet to see anybody make a map that accounts for the road leading south.

[KrushLTx10]

So far I have yet to see anybody make a map that accounts for the road leading south.

Both roads are more than likely going lead to the Port of Long Beach, if R* is being geographically correct.

[Choco Taco]

 

does anything but smelly bullsh*t fall out of that mouth of yours?

 

The revelation came via last night's GTA 5 Game Informer blowout, which claimed that, "when you include interior and exterior spaces together, Los Santos is bigger than the worlds of Red Dead Redemption, San Andreas and Grand Theft Auto IV combined, with room to spare."

 

 

http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/gta5/news/gt...n_combined.html

 

do a little research or reading before you run off at the mouth little man. it'll make you look like less of a dumbass in the future. my equation is correct.

 

There's no reason to include both "bigger" and "room to spare" in the same description. They mean the same thing. If it's bigger, then obviously there's room to spare and vice versa.

 

That would be like saying, "SaVaGe308 is dumb and stupid."

 

 

 

 

They didn't say how big the "room to spare" was because they either didn't calculate it, or simply didn't want people to know how big it is.

 

So they calculated it enough to know it's bigger than SA, IV, and RDR, but then they mysteriously stopped there?

 

Also, they don't want people to know how big it is, but then they're going to tell everyone it's 3.5 times RDR, 5 x RDR if you include topography?

 

That doesn't make sense.

[SaVaGe308]

 

yeah thats exactly what i said... let me find it in my post... hold on a second.... wait... no. no i didnt say that.   once again you are trying to put words in my mouth. 

No need to be so aggressive when I'm clearly asking a question for clarification rather than "trying to put words" in your mouth.

 

Here's where you've got me confused:

 

If RDR is 'roughly' twice the size of SA, then it's 'roughly' 28 square miles, right? 28 x 3.5 = 98 square miles, so that's ROUGHLY what We should be expecting from the land mass of GTA V, right?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere, but if GTA IV is about 6.5 square miles, GTA SA is about 13.9 miles, and RDR is about 28 miles, then that makes GTA V 48.4 square miles. Which doesn't match up with their statement about it being 3.5 x RDR if RDR is indeed 'roughly' 28 square miles.

 

Except Rockstar said it's the size of them three with 'room to spare', but if it is to match up with their statement about GTA V being 3.5 x RDR with RDR being 'roughly' 28 square miles, then surely the 'room to spare' has to add up to about 40 square miles... right?

if you have to ask someone "so are you saying..." then they probably didnt say it! its a forum. what i said is right there on the page. where in the hell did i say any bullsh*t about 40 miles? i never said how big san andreas was. all ive done is post what dan houser said which is rdr is roughly twice the size of san andreas. he could have meant literally, he could have meant rdr was actually scaled properly since san andreas clearly wasnt. he could have meant any number of things. all i know is you guys love to assume, and you love to try and put words in peoples mouths. the point i was making (which had absolutely nothing to do with f*cking san andreas) was chocos equation was pulled straight from his ass just like everything else he posts on here. my equation is correct and it cant be solved. how mich bigger than was not specified and how much room to spare was not specified. not to mention the fact that even los santos size is still mere speculation at this point. no one has confirmed sh*t. everything is a guess. the only thing that has been confirmed is choco is mentally challenged and should wear a helmet at all times

 

@choco once again youre wrong. the way they worded it means room to spare is another quantity of space for the equation. if you left that out trying to solve a math problem your answer would be wrong.

Edited June 7, 2013 by SaVaGe308

[kesta195]

There's a reason they didn't say bigger than SA, IV, RDR, and Vice City combined.  It's because the "room to spare" that gets mentioned is smaller than VC.

Now that's some pretty flawed logic.

They didn't say how big the "room to spare" was because they either didn't calculate it, or simply didn't want people to know how big it is.

No, not really. They are trying to sell the game, by making it seem as big as they possibly can. SA + GTAIV + RDR + (another R* game) would seem bigger to most people than SA + GTAIV + RDR with room to spare.

[KrushLTx10]

not to mention the fact that even los santos size is still mere speculation at this point. no one has confirmed sh*t. everything is a guess. the only thing that has been confirmed is choco is mentally challeneged and should wear a helmet at all times

If no one has confirmed sh*t then why are you acting like your signature is the the confirmed truth? Just because Dan Houser said it, right?

[josephene123]

yeah thats exactly what i said... let me find it in my post... hold on a second.... wait... no. no i didnt say that.   once again you are trying to put words in my mouth. 

No need to be so aggressive when I'm clearly asking a question for clarification rather than "trying to put words" in your mouth.

 

Here's where you've got me confused:

 

If RDR is 'roughly' twice the size of SA, then it's 'roughly' 28 square miles, right? 28 x 3.5 = 98 square miles, so that's ROUGHLY what We should be expecting from the land mass of GTA V, right?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere, but if GTA IV is about 6.5 square miles, GTA SA is about 13.9 miles, and RDR is about 28 miles, then that makes GTA V 48.4 square miles. Which doesn't match up with their statement about it being 3.5 x RDR if RDR is indeed 'roughly' 28 square miles.

 

Except Rockstar said it's the size of them three with 'room to spare', but if it is to match up with their statement about GTA V being 3.5 x RDR with RDR being 'roughly' 28 square miles, then surely the 'room to spare' has to add up to about 40 square miles... right?

if you have to ask someone "so are you saying..." then they probably didnt say it! its a forum. what i said is right there on the page. where in the hell did i say any bullsh*t about 40 miles? i never said how big san andreas was. all ive done is post what dan houser said which is rdr is roughly twice the size of san andreas. he could have meant literally, he could have meant rdr was actually scaled properly since san andreas clearly wasnt. he could have meant any number of things. all i know is you guys love to assume, and you love to try and put words in peoples mouths. the point i was making (which had absolutely nothing to do with f*cking san andreas) was chocos equation was pulled straight from his ass just like everything else he posts on here. my equation is correct and it cant be solved. how mich bigger than was not specified and how much room to spare was not specified. not to mention the fact that even los santos size is still mere speculation at this point. no one has confirmed sh*t. everything is a guess. the only thing that has been confirmed is choco is mentally challeneged and should wear a helmet at all times

Well your logic there is a little flawed because there is a little thing called 'inference' but okay. So you're not willing to say how big you think San Andreas is?