Map Size Thread

[GTAfan786]

 

What a f*cking retard. Seriously, get out of this forum. Dan said the MAP is the biggest one they've created yet, where's the exaggeration? You clearly don't know anything, so you decide to talk out of your dirty ass. If the map is SA + RDR + IV, then that is the biggest map they've made.

While it will be the biggest one they created, according to the blueprint size there is no way it's going to be bigger than RDR, SA and IV with room to spare.

 

The blueprint size means nothing. They would obviously have to compress the map to fit it on the blue print, just like how some of the screenshots/trailer pics are compressed. They aren't just going to give it away 4 months before the release.

I dont know how you can say the blueprint means nothing. If you have read the past 10 pages you would be able to see that the blueprint pretty much confirms most of our fears that the map is smaller than we had originally expected.

What? That's only the city (downtown) and even then it looks compressed, unless you are talking about the fan made maps. We should wait till Rockstar release the full map when they do, or wait until Sept 17th, because it will feel huge in game.

Once again, by map, I mean the city, this thread is about the city. For the last two months people have been singing about...

 

"The city will be MASSIVE, stop complaining!"

 

"No! GI said that the city is bigger than LC so shut up!"

 

"We havent even seen all of the city, theres still alot that is hidden fagzors!"

 

Yet here we are, with a blueprint of the city that pretty much confirms everything we have been saying. The city is not bigger than LC. There isnt a hidden portion of the city somewhere. Case closed.

 

Like my previous post stated, we can only hope that the quality of the city will be much better than IV, with loads of things to do. AFter all quality is better than quantity.

I didn't say there were hiding anything.

 

Anyway, if this is accurate in any way, then fine. I know it will be incredibly detailed and i am happy with it.

[allftw]

@GTAfan786

People have compared screenshots with the blueprint map. Watch the blimp one. You clearly see the map is legit and can be used to get a sense of scale. R* even gave us the dimensions of the entire blueprint map, so we can estimate the entire size of the map.

 

Edit: again ninja'd by allftw.. FFS man

I'll just shut up then.

[Deffpony]

Anyway, if this is accurate in any way, then fine. I know it will be incredibly detailed and i am happy with it.

This.

 

This thread started out as a way to discuss how the initial estimations of the size of LS didnt add upp. Know we know what we know, and all we can do is try and enjoy the game when it comes out.

[Eutyphro]

 

Anyway, if this is accurate in any way, then fine. I know it will be incredibly detailed and i am happy with it.

This.

 

This thread started out as a way to discuss how the initial estimations of the size of LS didnt add upp. Know we know what we know, and all we can do is try and enjoy the game when it comes out.

Rockstar never even stated anything about the size of Los Santos compared to Liberty City. People who expected that it'd be a lot bigger had wrong expectations. It still might be slightly bigger. We haven't even seen the total map yet, and none of the measuring and comparison methods that have been used are exact enough to say what the exact land mass compared to Liberty City is. The only thing that has been established is that it is a similar size.

[Game2048]

Anyway, if this is accurate in any way, then fine. I know it will be incredibly detailed and i am happy with it.

This.

 

This thread started out as a way to discuss how the initial estimations of the size of LS didnt add upp. Know we know what we know, and all we can do is try and enjoy the game when it comes out.

I'm sure that there will be something that will surprise us. However, even now map looks huge

[Game2048]

 

Anyway, if this is accurate in any way, then fine. I know it will be incredibly detailed and i am happy with it.

This.

 

This thread started out as a way to discuss how the initial estimations of the size of LS didnt add upp. Know we know what we know, and all we can do is try and enjoy the game when it comes out.

Rockstar never even stated anything about the size of Los Santos compared to Liberty City. People who expected that it'd be a lot bigger had wrong expectations. It still might be slightly bigger. We haven't even seen the total map yet, and none of the measuring and comparison methods that have been used are exact enough to say what the exact land mass compared to Liberty City is. The only thing that has been established is that it is a similar size.

 

And it's enough, in my opinion.

 

Los Santos is at least 1/3 of the entire map. And it's just simple assumptions.

 

Damn, this game is gonna be awsome

Edited May 26, 2013 by Game2048

[Game2048]

What a f*cking retard. Seriously, get out of this forum. Dan said the MAP is the biggest one they've created yet, where's the exaggeration? You clearly don't know anything, so you decide to talk out of your dirty ass. If the map is SA + RDR + IV, then that is the biggest map they've made.

While it will be the biggest one they created, according to the blueprint size there is no way it's going to be bigger than RDR, SA and IV with room to spare.

 

The blueprint size means nothing. They would obviously have to compress the map to fit it on the blue print, just like how some of the screenshots/trailer pics are compressed. They aren't just going to give it away 4 months before the release.

I dont know how you can say the blueprint means nothing. If you have read the past 10 pages you would be able to see that the blueprint pretty much confirms most of our fears that the map is smaller than we had originally expected.

Don't forget that it's just what they wanted us to see.

 

I think that the real map may be bigger than blueprint size. It doesn't necessary means that this poster shows the real size of the map

[UberVIIX]

Anyway, if this is accurate in any way, then fine. I know it will be incredibly detailed and i am happy with it.

This.

 

This thread started out as a way to discuss how the initial estimations of the size of LS didnt add upp. Know we know what we know, and all we can do is try and enjoy the game when it comes out.

I don't believe many people will be "having to try" and enjoy the game come Sept. 17th....

[Neo Arcadia]

Los Santos is at least 1/3 of the entire map. And it's just simple assumptions.

 

I'm pretty sure multiple sources have claimed Los Santos is just a tiny fraction of the map, like only 1/8.

[Game2048]

 

Los Santos is at least 1/3 of the entire map. And it's just simple assumptions.

 

I'm pretty sure multiple sources have claimed Los Santos is just a tiny fraction of the map, like only 1/8.

Some sources claimed that it may be optical illusion since it looks like 1/8 from a height of a few kilometers (?), when Franklin jumps with a parachute

[MosquitoSmasher]

As it has been said in the thread in the news section already, there's clearly more on the south of the map, not just one more building or a road or whatever, it really seems to be much more if i had to guess. It should be fine. Plenty of people in that thread also showed great examples of how it really isn't smaller than LC.

[Official General]

 

What a f*cking retard. Seriously, get out of this forum. Dan said the MAP is the biggest one they've created yet, where's the exaggeration? You clearly don't know anything, so you decide to talk out of your dirty ass. If the map is SA + RDR + IV, then that is the biggest map they've made.

While it will be the biggest one they created, according to the blueprint size there is no way it's going to be bigger than RDR, SA and IV with room to spare.

 

The blueprint size means nothing. They would obviously have to compress the map to fit it on the blue print, just like how some of the screenshots/trailer pics are compressed. They aren't just going to give it away 4 months before the release.

I dont know how you can say the blueprint means nothing. If you have read the past 10 pages you would be able to see that the blueprint pretty much confirms most of our fears that the map is smaller than we had originally expected.

What? That's only the city (downtown) and even then it looks compressed, unless you are talking about the fan made maps. We should wait till Rockstar release the full map when they do, or wait until Sept 17th, because it will feel huge in game.

Once again, by map, I mean the city, this thread is about the city. For the last two months people have been singing about...

 

"The city will be MASSIVE, stop complaining!"

 

"No! GI said that the city is bigger than LC so shut up!"

 

"We havent even seen all of the city, theres still alot that is hidden fagzors!"

 

Yet here we are, with a blueprint of the city that pretty much confirms everything we have been saying. The city is not bigger than LC. There isnt a hidden portion of the city somewhere. Case closed.

 

Like my previous post stated, we can only hope that the quality of the city will be much better than IV, with loads of things to do. AFter all quality is better than quantity.

@ deffpony

 

My thoughts and sentiments exactly

 

For now, it clearly appears from this map that our initial worst fears have been confirmed, and guys like me and you are kinda disappointed with this. Los Santos appears to be abit smaller than Liberty City and definitely not bigger than we expected it to be. Strong evidence points to this conclusion from the screenshots and the blueprint map, and based on this, it's reasonable to come to this conclusion. On top of that, the map layout does not look very good for something that is supposed to based on LA. There is nothing else to it, case closed for sure.

 

However, I agree that we should just hope that the overall quality of LS will be of such excellence that we can overlook the smaller-than-expected size of LS. Hopefully in LS there will lots of exciting, fun and interesting things to do, places to see and explore and much more good stuff, and so far it looks like that will be the case. Okay we are talking about the city's size, but at least we can take comfort in the fact that we have countryside, wilderness, animals, underwater and more to keep us occupied for a long time in addition to the traditional core GTA gameplay (which also should have greatly improved).

 

I'm very much looking forward to the game, that has not changed one bit. But I not afraid to point any flaws or criticize what I know about the game so far, and I will do so where I see fit. It's like GTA IV, as much as I really like that game, I'm still very vocal of it's flaws and shortcomings and I don't care if Rockstar made it, I still felt that IV was great, but also a bit of a letdown. GTA V will come under even more scrutiny from me because of what happened with IV, it's only natural.

 

@ SuccessPasta

 

Yeah I appreciate that you can see and understand both sides. I hope I am surprised at how big LS is once I finally play V, but after seeing that blueprint map, I somehow kinda doubt that. I that map is accurate enough to show most of the whole size of LS. But like I said, I'm still very much looking forward to the game, it's still GTA.

 

@ GTA786

 

It's all good that you are more than happy with that blueprint map of LS. That is fine, nothing wrong with that. But rather than still go to verbal war with those who say LS is not big, you should just concede defeat for now, because most knowledgeable people on here will admit that LS does not look big on that map - even those who are satisfied with the size. When you compare it with the screenshots, the general conclusion has been near enough confirmed that LS is not as big as it was expected to be. No need for anymore excuses, it what it is. We would actually prefer ourselves to concede defeat the RDF (sorry it's handy) and say that you guys were right and we were wrong, but there is no point trying implement damage control for Rockstar, it is what it is.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Official General

[dewan2000]

As it has been said in the thread in the news section already, there's clearly more on the south of the map, not just one more building or a road or whatever, it really seems to be much more if i had to guess. It should be fine. Plenty of people in that thread also showed great examples of how it really isn't smaller than LC.

It prolly isn't much down south but you never know. It seems like all the screens we seen have it so the far south area it's conveniently put of draw distance. And the few near the docks and airport never face that direction. So there is a possibility there is a little something more there.

[Game2048]

Official General, The point is that we expected that everything will turn around Los Santos, we thought that Los Santos will be the only location in the game. Rockstar mentioned only Los Santos at the beginning. Of course, we thought that if Los Santos will be the only location in the game , it should be huge.

 

However, later we found out that there will be Blane County - huge, diverse location that will have the same value as Los Santos.

 

And here is the problem. Not all people were able to rethink this.

 

Considering that there will be HUGE location - Blane County, the size of Los Santos which will be similar to size of Liberty City - it's pretty good, normal thing.

 

As I said, not all people were able rethink this thing

Edited May 26, 2013 by Game2048

[Official General]

Official General, The point is that we expected that everything will turn around Los Santos, we thought that Los Santos will be the only location in the game. Rockstar mentioned only Los Santos at the beginning. Of course, we thought that if Los Santos will be the only location in the game , it should be huge.

 

However, later we found out that there will be Blane County - huge, diverse location that will have the same value as the Los-Santos.

 

And here is the problem. Not all people were able rethink this.

 

Considering that there will be HUGE location - Blane County, the size of Los Santos which will be similar to size of Liberty City - it;s pretty good, normal thing.

 

As I said, not all people were able rethink this thing

No disrespect bro, but in debate and argument nobody really cares about Blaine County or anywhere else on the map that is out of Los Santos.

 

We already knew there will be surrounding countryside, smaller towns and all that (including Blaine County), that was a given from the start.

 

We are concerned with the size of Los Santos ONLY. Not anywhere else, just LOS SANTOS.

[Game2048]

 

Official General, The point is that we expected that everything will turn around Los Santos, we thought that Los Santos will be the only location in the game. Rockstar mentioned only Los Santos at the beginning. Of course, we thought that if Los Santos will be the only location in the game , it should be huge.

 

However, later we found out that there will be Blane County - huge, diverse location that will have the same value as the Los-Santos.

 

And here is the problem. Not all people were able rethink this.

 

Considering that there will be HUGE location - Blane County, the size of Los Santos which will be similar to size of Liberty City - it;s pretty good, normal thing.

 

As I said, not all people were able rethink this thing

No disrespect bro, but in debate and argument nobody really cares about Blaine County or anywhere else on the map that is out of Los Santos.

 

We already knew there will be surrounding countryside, smaller towns and all that (including Blaine County), that was a given from the start.

 

We are concerned with the size of Los Santos ONLY. Not anywhere else, just LOS SANTOS.

Yes, we knew that there will be surrounding countryside, smaller towns, etc. But we didn't know the real scale of all this. We thought that there will be Los Santos - the biggest and most important location. We thought that all those surrounding countryside, smaller towns - just secondary, not so big locations.

 

Later we found out that Blane County will be much bigger location than we expected, and that it will have much bigger importance.

 

And here is the difference in the assessment of importance of the size of Los Santos.

 

Having such very huge location as Blane County, the fact that size of Los Santos is smaller than we expected, is less important now. Now such size of Los Santos is acceptable

[Official General]

But we didn't know the real scale of all this. We thought that there will be Los Santos - the biggest and most important location. We thought that all those surrounding countryside, smaller towns - just secondary, not so big locations.

 

Later we found out that Blane County will be much bigger location than we expected, and that it will have much bigger importance.

 

And here is the difference in the assessment of importance of the size of Los Santos.

 

Having such very huge location as Blane County, the fact that size of Los Santos is smaller than we expected, is less important now. Now such size of Los Santos is acceptable

Whose "we" ??

 

I don't remember anyone even discussing the size and great importance of Blaine County and the surrounding towns in this thread, let alone their sizes.

 

I don't think you actually know what you are talking about, you seem confused here. Let me spell it out plainly to you. The size of Los Santos is THE MOST IMPORTANT issue regarding this subject - NOTHING ELSE. Nobody on this thread cares how big Blaine County is right now. We are talking about the size of Los Santos and nothing more. Thanks for the info about Blaine County, but like nobody is talking about that, so we don't need to hear it.

 

Several times we have stated here that this debate is not about the whole map size, it's about Los Santos's allegedly not so big map. No amount of talk about Blaine County and surrounding towns is gonna make the guys who think LS is a bit small feel any better.

 

Ok ? I hope you got that.

[dewan2000]

Official General, The point is that we expected that everything will turn around Los Santos, we thought that Los Santos will be the only location in the game. Rockstar mentioned only Los Santos at the beginning. Of course, we thought that if Los Santos will be the only location in the game , it should be huge.

 

However, later we found out that there will be Blane County - huge, diverse location that will have the same value as the Los-Santos.

 

And here is the problem. Not all people were able rethink this.

 

Considering that there will be HUGE location - Blane County, the size of Los Santos which will be similar to size of Liberty City - it;s pretty good, normal thing.

 

As I said, not all people were able rethink this thing

No disrespect bro, but in debate and argument nobody really cares about Blaine County or anywhere else on the map that is out of Los Santos.

 

We already knew there will be surrounding countryside, smaller towns and all that (including Blaine County), that was a given from the start.

 

We are concerned with the size of Los Santos ONLY. Not anywhere else, just LOS SANTOS.

Though I mostly care about the city, Im sure many of us are curious how the country area will be. Will we have tiny little towns like we saw in SA, or will they be a tad bit bigger. Would be nice to see a small town on the area the size as say Bohan, but I doubt that.

 

I believe we can already see Malibu on the map to the northwest of the city. Can clearly see a few docks and streets coming off the main road.

[Game2048]

 

But we didn't know the real scale of all this. We thought that there will be Los Santos - the biggest and most important location. We thought that all those surrounding countryside, smaller towns - just secondary, not so big locations.

 

Later we found out that Blane County will be much bigger location than we expected, and that it will have much bigger importance.

 

And here is the difference in the assessment of importance of the size of Los Santos.

 

Having such very huge location as Blane County, the fact that size of Los Santos is smaller than we expected, is less important now. Now such size of Los Santos is acceptable

Whose "we" ??

 

I don't remember anyone even discussing the size and great importance of Blaine County and the surrounding towns in this thread, let alone their sizes.

 

I don't think you actually know what you are talking about, you seem confused here. Let me spell it out plainly to you. The size of Los Santos is THE MOST IMPORTANT issue regarding this subject - NOTHING ELSE. Nobody on this thread cares how big Blaine County is right now. We are talking about the size of Los Santos and nothing more. Thanks for the info about Blaine County, but like nobody is talking about that, so we don't need to hear it.

 

Several times we have stated here that this debate is not about the whole map size, it's about Los Santos's allegedly not so big map. No amount of talk about Blaine County and surrounding towns is gonna make the guys who think LS is a bit small feel any better.

 

Ok ? I hope you got that.

You didn't get what I meant. And it's actually normal thing for these forums. Kids everywhere. No one is trying to win a dispute with you

[Official General]

 

Official General, The point is that we expected that everything will turn around Los Santos, we thought that Los Santos will be the only location in the game. Rockstar mentioned only Los Santos at the beginning. Of course, we thought that if Los Santos will be the only location in the game , it should be huge.

 

However, later we found out that there will be Blane County - huge, diverse location that will have the same value as the Los-Santos.

 

And here is the problem. Not all people were able rethink this.

 

Considering that there will be HUGE location - Blane County, the size of Los Santos which will be similar to size of Liberty City - it;s pretty good, normal thing.

 

As I said, not all people were able rethink this thing

No disrespect bro, but in debate and argument nobody really cares about Blaine County or anywhere else on the map that is out of Los Santos.

 

We already knew there will be surrounding countryside, smaller towns and all that (including Blaine County), that was a given from the start.

 

We are concerned with the size of Los Santos ONLY. Not anywhere else, just LOS SANTOS.

Though I mostly care about the city, Im sure many of us are curious how the country area will be. Will we have tiny little towns like we saw in SA, or will they be a tad bit bigger. Would be nice to see a small town on the area the size as say Bohan, but I doubt that.

 

I believe we can already see Malibu on the map to the northwest of the city. Can clearly see a few docks and streets coming off the main road.

@ dewan2000

 

I'm talking about the debate in this thread only. I'm sure people are very interested in other areas of the map, but no one here is too interested in that right now, it's about LS's size, that is my point.

 

@ Game2048

 

We don't agree on something, and the first thing you say to me like so many predictable insults on here is call me "a kid". Yawn, that sh*t is played-out and further more it's not really a much of a diss. I really don't get this "you are a kid" insult, people around here say it like it's the ultimate diss.

 

You don't know me, but you say I'm a kid. Ok thanks complimenting me for saying I look young.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Official General

[driftnslide]

@deffpony

 

I actually feel what you and sanex are very accurate in saying LS landmass is less than LC. However, I would just like ask how do you the revealed portion of the map is all of LS since it seems to be cutoff with that road down south?

 

Do you feel that road is to another mini city (say Bohan sized San Diego or something) or just a small extension of the docks of LS? Also do you have proof this is all of LS in the blueprint?

 

My skepticism is in part due to the fact that LS never reveals so much about a game before, however if you or anyone else has convincing evidence that they showed everything and that road leading south is either nothing or a small extension of the docks, I would gladly be convinced.

[Game2048]

Official General, your tone, your desire to win some dispute and reaction says it all.

 

Yes, Los Santos is less, than all people here expected. I explained why it doesn't matter anymore

[Deffpony]

@deffpony

 

I actually feel what you and sanex are very accurate in saying LS landmass is less than LC. However, I would just like ask how do you the revealed portion of the map is all of LS since it seems to be cutoff with that road down south?

 

Do you feel that road is to another mini city (say Bohan sized San Diego or something) or just a small extension of the docks of LS? Also do you have proof this is all of LS in the blueprint?

 

My skepticism is in part due to the fact that LS never reveals so much about a game before, however if you or anyone else has convincing evidence that they showed everything and that road leading south is either nothing or a small extension of the docks, I would gladly be convinced.

From the screenshots it's fairly certain that the cutoff portions of the map aren't a huge chunk of the city. It's possible that there is some significant portions not shown in the blue print, but not likely.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Official General, your tone, your desire to win some dispute and reaction says it all.

 

Yes, Los Santos is less, than all people here expected. I explained why it doesn't matter anymore

Speak for yourself bro. It's what I expected to be which is roughly the same size as GTA IV's LC.

 

Going by the "Are you satisfied with the size of LS?" thread with over 500 votes it appears the majority are in favour.

[MikeyBelic]

The size isn't the issue, it's what they do inside the city, how they make it feel like an actual city.

 

If more buildings are able to be interacted with, it looks prettier, it feels more lively and such then it's good, if it feels like IV's LC with maybe 10% improvement then I would be pissed off.

[driftnslide]

 

@deffpony

 

I actually feel what you and sanex are very accurate in saying LS landmass is less than LC. However, I would just like ask how do you the revealed portion of the map is all of LS since it seems to be cutoff with that road down south?

 

Do you feel that road is to another mini city (say Bohan sized San Diego or something) or just a small extension of the docks of LS? Also do you have proof this is all of LS in the blueprint?

 

My skepticism is in part due to the fact that LS never reveals so much about a game before, however if you or anyone else has convincing evidence that they showed everything and that road leading south is either nothing or a small extension of the docks, I would gladly be convinced.

From the screenshots it's fairly certain that the cutoff portions of the map aren't a huge chunk of the city. It's possible that there is some significant portions not shown in the blue print, but not likely.

Would you be able to refer to those screenshots by any chance? Not trying to be snarky or anything, I just may have missed it. I have looked at quite a bit of these map collages and I don't believe one has shown what's south of that cut-off point. I believe GTA Kiwi posted a nice map and it looks quite realistic.

 

 

However he doesn't show the south portion of LS (or whatever is south of LS) has been already determined.

 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3688/8822950...eb71b5766_o.jpg

 

^here's link some people were complaining about full picture shown on post.

 

The only thing possibly relevant was S4. But that was at ground level and past some of those airport buildings, literally everything east of that is concealed. I haven't seen one screenshot to give us a solid view of what is south past that cut-off point.

 

Edited May 26, 2013 by driftnslide

[Game2048]

driftnslide, please remove these f*cking images. You have ruined this page

[Game2048]

 

Official General, your tone, your desire to win some dispute and reaction says it all.

 

Yes, Los Santos is less, than all people here expected. I explained why it doesn't matter anymore

Speak for yourself bro. It's what I expected to be which is roughly the same size as GTA IV's LC.

 

Going by the "Are you satisfied with the size of LS?" thread with over 500 votes it appears the majority are in favour.

 

Maybe I didn't need to say "all", but that's not the point.

 

It's good that you're satisfied with the size of Los Santos. I am also satisfied. I think that Los Santos could be bigger, but yes, it's enough if it will be the same size as Liberty City, considering the whole size of map and size of Blane County.

 

However I must admit that at the very beginning I, as well as many people here, expected that Los Santos will be bigger. But I explained earlier why even current size of Los Santos is acceptable

Edited May 26, 2013 by Game2048

[Grand Theft Savage]

Damn, nigga. Make that image smaller

[jsaba2018]

I don't think R captured the sprawl of south central properly, I can only hope there's more sprawl down south of the map