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killer24

Things you hate/dislike in GTA San Andreas

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TheSantader25
36 minutes ago, perennial said:

True but that still only works between 3 fixed locations. I only found that feature useful for one mission, traveling from LS to SF after "Snail Trail".

I think it was dumb that you could take territories over before "The Green Sabre", but would lose them all anyway. I feel sorry for those who found that out the hard way.

The airports can be used for traveling long distances. I don't see the point of having a fast travel option "within the cities". You can literally get from one side of one city to another in 1-2 minutes. 

If that's not enough, there is a train that travels around the entire map. You can enter one of the carriages(not the driver seat) and skip to the next station. There are 6 stations around the map. 

I think SA offered a lot of improvements to the series regarding fast travel options. 

Also If you're in bone County you can easily gain access to the jetpack and aerial vehicles in the abandoned airport. 

In Short I think SA offers enough opportunities for traveling around the map when you combine all these features together. 

 

The Taxis in VC were literally useless since you lose all your weapons when you die during a mission and it's pretty dumb to go straight to a mission without any weapons. Most people will either buy weapons before they do the mission or reload their previous save. (or at the very least buy weapons DURING the mission which basically makes the whole taxi thing useless anyways since you have to go to an ammunation) 

7 hours ago, Laker23 said:

 

- No taxi system. If I'm busy doing something I like to hop in a taxi and just let it drive there for me.

You can let trains and airplanes do that for you in SA. It's not as good as taxis but it's still something. 

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perennial
6 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

In Short I think SA offers enough opportunities for traveling around the map.

I didn't deny that, I just shared my personal experience with airport travel. The HD era was still an improvement IMO with taxi rides. My original point was just that the jetpack isn't that useful when it only spawns in one location.

9 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

The Taxis in VC were literally useless since you lose all your weapons when you die during a mission

That's why that feature would've been even better in SA, after dating Katie you'd never lose your weapons.

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Evil empire

I oftenly need to wait a long time before the train appears in Cranberry station.

 

Some gang territories are so small starting a war inside is very difficult.

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perennial
26 minutes ago, Evil empire said:

I oftenly need to wait a long time before the train appears in Cranberry station.

Yeah, you have to make sure a train waits at the station before you can enter (and use trip skip as a passenger). It would've been better if you could use ticket machines like at the airports.

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Reameb
1 hour ago, perennial said:

Yeah, you have to make sure a train waits at the station before you can enter (and use trip skip as a passenger). It would've been better if you could use ticket machines like at the airports.

Speaking of that feature, something i dislike about it is that it takes a long time showing you the plane landing, its kinda annoying.

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TheSantader25
17 minutes ago, Reameb said:

Speaking of that feature, something i dislike about it is that it takes a long time showing you the plane landing, its kinda annoying.

 

Tbh the plane landing is not that much longer than the loading screens between taxi trips in GTA IV and GTA V(though GTA V is pretty quick in next gen) 

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perennial
Just now, TheSantader25 said:

Tbh the plane landing is not that much longer than the loading screens between taxi trips in GTA IV and GTA V(though GTA V is pretty quick in next gen) 

I guess the mileage may vary depending on the platform, on PC the taxi trip skips seem pretty much instantaneous.

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Laker23
7 hours ago, Am Shaegar said:

Did you try using the jetpack? Its great to travel anywhere quickly.

Of course. But as I said, at times I wanted to get in a taxi and let it drive me there while I had to do something else.

 

Also forgot about the train system as somebody mentioned, which was fine but not as convenient for this.

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Big_Smiley
4 hours ago, Evil empire said:

Some gang territories are so small starting a war inside is very difficult.

That may depend on the density of the actual gang. If that turf has a very light shade of color (example Vagos) chances are they may not spawn as frequently compared to a very dark shade of yellow you would find plenty of Vagos in that turf no matter the size. At least for me in the case since I got gang territories in all three cities :p

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Evil empire
6 hours ago, perennial said:

Yeah, you have to make sure a train waits at the station before you can enter (and use trip skip as a passenger). It would've been better if you could use ticket machines like at the airports.

I don't use the train as a passenger, I prefer to drive it. 😛

 

The game would be more enjoyable if it gave the option to choose the bloodring's length instead of always making it 1 minute longer.

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perennial
29 minutes ago, Evil empire said:

I don't use the train as a passenger, I prefer to drive it. 😛

Fair enough, but isn't there just two directions it can go towards (apart from derailment)? I found driving trains a bit pointless, but I'm glad others enjoy it.

 

30 minutes ago, Evil empire said:

The game would be more enjhoyable if it gave the option to choose the bloodring's length instead of always making it 1 minute longer.

That side mission would have been more enjoyable if everyone was driving Bloodring Bangers like in VC and a random BF-400 didn't steal my checkpoints in front of me.

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TheSantader25

I get if someone wants to fast travel but for me Tbh SA is the only game that the idea of fast traveling hasn't occurred to me even once. I love exploring the map even after all these years. 

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Algonquin Assassin

I don't like how races restrict us using to specific vehicles. I remember the first time I modded a car and was all pumped up to use it in a race, but then it just felt a kick to the balls when the game forced me to use something IT wanted so I pretty much wasted time and in game money to mod the f*cking thing.

 

I get why they'd do this for speciality races like off road, air races etc which I don't have a problem with, but for standard street races I don't. It makes customisation feel pointless or even if you just want to try the race again with a different class of a standard vehicle and compare lap times. IMO it removes challenge and replay value.

 

 

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Beg_Ultra

For me, some of the things I hate (can't remember all of them atm):


-NPC driving. In particular, this situation: When you're driving straight, approaching an intersection, and the cars from side streets will simply drive straight and won't respect your priority, which leads to either you crashing into them or them crashing into you. And very similar, or actually the same situation: when you're going straight, and the car driving next to you but few meters ahead, just tries to turn right to the other street, even if he clearly sees you going straight. So, of course, you crash into him. This annoys me so much, because all these cars seem to respect the law so damn much, they all wait for the green light, they all drive slow etc, but when it comes to respect the priority in traffic, they just don't do that. And I'm sure Rockstar has intentionally left it in the game just to annoy us players. I just always want to kill all these people who crash into me or make me crash into them because they don't respect my priority. But since I try to not to kill civilians as much as I can, at least taking out of the car and a good slap does the thing (unless I have like 5-6 stars or so)

 

-waiting. This game takes 150+playing hours anyway (if you don't wanna rush like crazy but just play at normal speed), so why does it have to be so damn slow to change the clothes, to take a flight or train between the cities, and such situations. Let's say you wanna change the clothes to remove the stars. So you just wana change your hat, and then put your old hat back on. The moment you accept another hat (and that's not even the beginning of the process because you firstly needed to enter the wardrobe, select the hat, then wait for CJ to come out with it on his head and stretch arround) the stars start blinking. As you people know, it takes some fair time until the stars completely disappear, once they start blinking. Well, it's still less time than what you need to select and accept your old hat again and leave the wardrobe ! And imagine if you wanna try different sets of clothes to see what matches better? 30-40 mins at least. Same with buying the clothes in the shops. Gaaah why couldn't these sequences be much faster. And, for God's sake you're taking the plane from one city to another in order to travel FASTER, so why can't you just enter the airport/select the flight/exit the airport? Even with skipping the flight scene, it still takes a lot of time, and makes your trip not much shorter than traveling by let's say NRG-500 or similar bike.

 

-you know that situation when you fall of from a bike, and you need to press enter 645452567 times for CJ to sit on it again and continue driving? Because if you simply press enter while CJ is falling onto the ground and is clealry NOT on the bike anymore, he will just get up and simply stand. If you press enter 3-4 times during his fall (again, when he is completely NOT on the bike), it still won't help. You need to press it once he stands up, because he obviously isn't able to receive your command while he is on ground, standing up from the ground etc (good God, why?)

-you remember that situation when you're flying a helicopter, driving a tank, a car, and it gets on fire due to an explosion near it, police fire or so, and you're tapping Enter for God knows how many times, but the game just won't let you exit the vehicle before it explodes? This usually happens more often if you had a long gameplay, like 1-2 hours or so. It simply seems like the game just wants you to die! Try this with the same vehicle without wanted stars or it being on fire, and CJ will most likely simply bail out straight away.

 

-you can't even enter a police impound while wearing Barbara's cop suit. The police will recognize you as intruder and attack just like you were wearing the normal clothes. What's the point of wearing police uniform if you can't even do that?

-why for God's sake can't we climb up the ladders?

 

-the annoying Mission attempts/Missions passed number. Why can't simply every mission add 1 attempt and 1 pass once it's passed, so you always have the same number if you never fail a mission? Now I have to "guess" what's the lowest number of attempts/passed. And it varies from what version of the game it is (not the same numbers for PC, PS2, Xbox etc versions), and some missions that add to the stats are required for 100% while some aren't, so again the numbers vary depending on if one includes things like Burglary etc. I'm playing on a PC, actually played 4-5 times in over 10 years, and I still don't know for sure what is the lowest number of Attempts/Passed I can get, thanks to all the mess Rockstar created by not making it simple "Every mission, one attempt, one pass".

 

-why there is no "Cops killed" in the stats. For example, I don't kill the civilians at all, thats how I play GTA, but I constantly fight the cops, reaching King of San Andreas criminal rating, so if you check my stats, it doesn't show that the people I wasted are like 80 civilians in various accidents that I couldn't avoid and 12 650 cops, it just shows 12 730 people

 

-why do you need 30+ playing hours and destroying like 30 000 aircrafts if you wanna reach King of San Andreas criminal rating without cheating/glitching. It's just way too much, should've been much less time needed.

 

-you destroy the helicopter. It's falling to the ground. But, it falls into the water. And you don't get 30 points. Or you destroy it and move on flying quickly, so it despawns before you actually hear the first explosion, and again you don't get 30 points. Or you are in a Hydra, you destroy another Hydra, and you simply proceed, to chase next Hydra. So the Hydra you just destroyed despawns before hitting the ground. And again you don't get any points.

Why? For God's sake, why? Why don't we just the the points the moment an aircraft is destroyed, like it should've normally been?

-and yes, the taxi rides. It's missing in the game. You can travel by plane, by train, but you can't travel by taxi. Lol

 

-some people mentioned Bloodring above. I hate the fact it's everyone against you. It has always pissed me off. There are several rivals, and all these other cars are just trying to stop me, and to help them. It should've been fair competition, everyone against each other, not everyone against me.

 

-what I hate with all my heart and all my soul, is freaking Kickstart. Since I play the most legit way, without any mods, cheats, glitches etc, I don't turn my frame limiter off because you're not supposed to do that, it's supposed to always be on...well, that stadium event is a freaking nightmare. Of course, I'm talking about scoring 61 points. 4 mins is simply not enough time. I'm planning to start my starter save next year (just finishing the most complete 100% so far, but in regular order, without starter save part, currently 95%), and I already feel desperate knowing how many days, hours, and houndreds of tries I will have to do, traveling from LS by plane and starting it, then reloading and doing it again (this time at least it was much faster, because you need 10-15 secs to reach it from Rockshore West safehouse). The person who designed this, and didn't give it at least 4:30 time (even that would've been very difficult), deserves to go to a prison.

 

-helicopters spawning in the ground, peds spawning on the buildings and falling off, planes crashing in the city etc. This could be easy fix if they put just a little more effort.

 

-there are no woods. You can't find more than 4-5 trees together. But why are there no woods, like, real forrests, 1000s of trees over larger area? At least Flint County should've been like that.

 

-"CJ, you wanna drive?". Why can't Ryder, Sweet, Truth or anyone else drive, at least sometimes, and at least in the beginning of the mission, to the destination? Then it would at least look real. Because where in the World everyone asks you to drive their own car?

 

-people commiting suicide by jumping under your car. How many times this happens... no matter how hard I try, I can't avoid killing of that guy, because regardless of how much I'm trying to get arround him, he tries even harder to get under my wheels

 

-it turns out that CJ can trust only his own family and blood (Sweet), because literally all the other GSF leader members (Smoke and Rider) betray him. Stupid.

 

-you can't customize bikes

 

-in some missions you are required to coldly kill lots of innocent people for no reason. For example stealing Madd Dogg's rhymes, or destroying the generators in Sherman Dam. That doesn't seem right to me. CJ should just disable them by kicking them in the head from behind or so.

 

-when a crappy fall doesn't kill you, but the same fall with parachute kills you. (someone said before, I share the opinion so I just copied)

 

-once you kill someone, if the ambulance comes and heals him, that kill should be removed from your stats because he was obviously not dead, just injured


-the way the game occasionally replaces a weapon in a certain slot without warning you or switching it back after a mission. (again, someone said before, I share the opinion so I just copied)

 

-people arround you, like Sweetl, Smoke, Ryder, Kendl, Cesar, Truth, Mike Toreno etc etc never ever change their clothes

 

-Verdant Meadows hangar can hold only 4 vehicles, for that size it should be 10-20

 

-you are driving a car, looking ahead, then you turn the camera to see whatever behind you, and after you turn your camera front again, there is another set of cars.

 

-regarding the missions (including all, both story and side missions), I'm fine with all of them, apart from one mission. Yeah, when I was a kid, some of them were really hard, but now, it's all good. I really enjoy The wrong side of the tracks, I don't understand how is that mission hard for lots of people. Zero's missions don't give me the problems as well (I swear), be it Supply lines or any other of his missions. The schools - I complete all 4 of them for fun. Half an hour and the Flying school is done with all golds. Dunno, guess I got some skills over the years. I could only say those 5 laps in Banshee sometimes give me a little harder time than the other tasks, but nothing too difficult. BUT.... there is one damn mission, that I can't express how much I hate! I've already mentioned that mission above: the damn Kickstart ! Since I play with frame limiter ON, and am only interested in getting 61 points, that mission is always an ultimate nightmare for me, and really frustrating. Damn the one who designed it !

 

 

 

 

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GTA_CAT

I see this topic and it costs so much to find something like that but there's one thing that have came to my mind almost without thinking: traffic. Accidents, ramming, overspeeding...

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TheSantader25
On 9/24/2018 at 10:15 PM, Beg_Ultra said:

 

"CJ, you wanna drive?". Why can't Ryder, Sweet, Truth or anyone else drive, at least sometimes, and at least in the beginning of the mission, to the destination? Then it would at least look real. Because where in the World everyone asks you to drive their own car?

 

 

Toreno drives you to the location in the mission "vertical bird". 

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Beg_Ultra

Yes, but it's just a cutscene, he doesn't actually drive there through the gameplay, like you do all the time. But yeah, at least it's better than typical "Carl, drive us to northern Red County in my car"

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TheSantader25
14 hours ago, Beg_Ultra said:

Yes, but it's just a cutscene, he doesn't actually drive there through the gameplay, like you do all the time. But yeah, at least it's better than typical "Carl, drive us to northern Red County in my car"

I imagine it's pretty boring to watch other people drive you somewhere. It's not just SA. every GTA has this problem. Like when Everyone In IV lets you drive their car. I can't call this a problem. It would be pretty boring to see someone else drive you in a video game unless you want to go do something else in the meantime(that's why taxis exist in IV, V). this problem(if you can call it a problem)  only gets solved once we have 3 protagonists in V. Each drive their own car when they are traveling with each other. 

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Beg_Ultra
2 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

I imagine it's pretty boring to watch other people drive you somewhere. It's not just SA. every GTA has this problem. Like when Everyone In IV lets you drive their car. I can't call this a problem. It would be pretty boring to see someone else drive you in a video game unless you want to go do something else in the meantime(that's why taxis exist in IV, V). this problem(if you can call it a problem)  only gets solved once we have 3 protagonists in V. Each drive their own car when they are traveling with each other. 

I agree with you it'd be pretty boring, but from the other hand  there are many other boring things added to the game to make it more realistic. To me the most boring thing is changing the clothes, it takes forever. But they made it that way, to give it a feel of real life. Or if you wanna build up your Criminal Rating and wanna do it legit vay, you literally need to spend over 20 hours running arround like crazy in a tank, destroying planes and helis. What is more boring than that. And it was totally unnecessary, it definately didn't need that many playing hours, it could've been just 5-6 hours. Or in the beginning you have to take CJ to the gym many times, to build up muscle and stamina, but in order to do it you also have to eat. Boring things, but added for the sake of reality feeling. That's why I think they should include someone else driving, at least in some of the missions, even if it's boring, so it feels more realistic

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TheSantader25
45 minutes ago, Beg_Ultra said:

I agree with you it'd be pretty boring, but from the other hand  there are many other boring things added to the game to make it more realistic. To me the most boring thing is changing the clothes, it takes forever. But they made it that way, to give it a feel of real life. Or if you wanna build up your Criminal Rating and wanna do it legit vay, you literally need to spend over 20 hours running arround like crazy in a tank, destroying planes and helis. What is more boring than that. And it was totally unnecessary, it definately didn't need that many playing hours, it could've been just 5-6 hours. Or in the beginning you have to take CJ to the gym many times, to build up muscle and stamina, but in order to do it you also have to eat. Boring things, but added for the sake of reality feeling. That's why I think they should include someone else driving, at least in some of the missions, even if it's boring, so it feels more realistic

Whether those stuff are boring or not is subjective. I found the RPG elements tied to Carl's development throughout the story and I enjoyed them as little things you do around the story. Definitely enjoyed them more than the stupid hangouts in IV(see?these stuff is subjective). If they forced you to do it that would be a problem. But these are side activities for people who are interested. Nothing more. The game can be easily beaten without them.  however regarding the clothing I doubt they did it that way to be realistic. They did it because they had no other choice with the hardware limitations. Even in IV it took like years to switch between clothes and that game didn't even have a proper menu to change clothes. I doubt R* still figured out a quick way to change clothes until V. The title of the topic is things you hate about SA and you have the right to hate these. But it's always nice to think about the time a game has been released. 

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markusizr

Things what i hate on SA

1) Catalina of course

2)You can't visit your brother in jail

3) Girlfriends 

4) Planes and helicopter

5) Killing Ryder 

6) Jimmy Hernandez death

7)  Re take all territories after Home Coming

8) For no reasons who called cops in the end of mission green sabre

9) Boat sounds

 

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Algonquin Assassin
3 hours ago, Beg_Ultra said:

To me the most boring thing is changing the clothes, it takes forever. 

On top of that because there's no way of being able to preview anything you have to wait for pensioner CJ to do his slow as f*ck wardrobe waltz and if it's something you don't like then you have to repeat the process. I gave up buying clothes after some time for that reason.

 

It's the most tedious and poorly executed mechanic in the whole series IMO. 

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lil weasel

 The Game changing the weapon to an inferior one, or it reduces the effectiveness of a special weapon to make the mission more difficult.

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TheSantader25
2 hours ago, xXxRyanxXx said:

On top of that because there's no way of being able to preview anything you have to wait for pensioner CJ to do his slow as f*ck wardrobe waltz and if it's something you don't like then you have to repeat the process. I gave up buying clothes after some time for that reason.

 

It's the most tedious and poorly executed mechanic in the whole series IMO. 

Ironically I found the IV clothing stores worse. No menus so you'd never understand wtf you're changing to or what you did change to in the past.it gets even worse when you buy some clothes and want to find the one you want in your safehouse. I also didn't understand why we need to watch a 2-3 second black screen before Niko switches into a new outfit. Like it's the 7th generation how couldn't R* already implement the system they used in V? 

In my 3rd playthrough and so onThis ultimately made me stop caring for Niko's clothing and only visit the Russian shop because the mission asked me to or buy a suit for the desired mission. His default outfit fits him better anyway. 

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Algonquin Assassin

*Sigh*

 

Anyway back on topic.

 

-The bicycle physics in this game are terrible. One slight bump and you get sent flying to bloody Mars. I never felt the incentive to do any of bicycle related challenges/side missions after the first mission when I had to endure it off the bat

-There are a million safehouses yet they have the same few copy & paste interiors that don't even match the proportions of the exterior most of the time. 

-Car customisation lacks performance mods besides nitrous, but this relates back to another issue I raised above that the races make customisation feel pointless because you can't even use your own cars so *shrugs shoulders*.

-Manual aim feels clunky and jerky as f*ck. 

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Ondr4H

I found ever after these years some mechanism bad and only good on paper but badly executed in game.

For example gang wars, why.Just why...This is worst of all.

Wardrobe-Takes about hour to change clothes, I dont have memory of genius to remember all these clothes.Pointless...

Stats-Annoying as hell, but at least we can use gym for strength and stamina(GTA V cough cough) .

Girlfriends...Yes after all these bonuses were useful .But pain to make progress.

Some missions are just stupid, story is crazy and introduced crazy secret service dude, recuring character of many GTA games after GTA:SA. R* make finally Agent and dont  mess with secret agents in GTA anymore(GTA V is great example of this stupidity) .

Also this game is hardcore to made 100%, you made progress and sometimes game crashes or why we need gold medals in schools(Stupid driving school on keyboard).Only game in 3D era that I never made to 100% second is VCS, because I never had chance to play it.

PC version has many technical flaws and looks worse than PS2 version. Luckily there are silent patches and graphic mods, sadly only for 1.0 version of game.Other version are striked with hot cofee paranoia so you cannot modify your game(GJ Rockstar!)

Steam version, this is complete joke...

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Male01

Why does everybody whine about the Steam version? At least you can still downgrade that. I'm stuck here with the Windows Store version, which is just as broken as the Xbox 360 version was.

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Big_Smiley
1 hour ago, Male01 said:

Why does everybody whine about the Steam version? At least you can still downgrade that. I'm stuck here with the Windows Store version, which is just as broken as the Xbox 360 version was.

This video by my man @Vadim M.  explains pretty damn well....

 

 

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Beg_Ultra
On 9/30/2018 at 1:31 AM, xXxRyanxXx said:

-Car customisation lacks performance mods besides nitrous, but this relates back to another issue I raised above that the races make customisation feel pointless because you can't even use your own cars so *shrugs shoulders*.

 

How did I forget it in my initial post. I dislike that thing very very much. You obtain unique cars, or rare cars, or you customize your cars, and they all are - useless. You wanna drive to the missions in them - they disappear. There's a chance they get impounded, but since most of us are using the police impounds to store some aircrafts or other vehicles, impounding your rare vehicles would only make more trouble, as it would erase some of your planes from the impound garage. You wanna use them to do the missions, you will either have to abandon them because the mission can be done only in a mission provided vehicle, or you'll have to abandon it at some point during the mission (and of course they won't be waiting for you, once you're back to that place your precious vehicle is long gone). You wanna do the races in them - like Ryan said you're forced to use the car provided by the game, so you can't. Well, at least you wanna take your girls out in your unique vehicles - and they loose all their proofings. Aaaaaaargh !!!! Basically, the only thing you can do, is use customized vehicles to take the GFs out, or use your unique vehicles to fight the cops and do the rampage. So, our unique, rare or customized cars mosly spend all their time in garages, and never see the daylight.

 

And, regarding the clothes, I got tired of wasting my time on it, so I decided to waste all the time it needed, but to do it ONCE and for all so I never need to do it again. So I went and checked all the shops, all the clothes. Bought all the ones I liked, then tried all the possible combinations that seemed interesting to me. Then chose few combinations, and wrote it all down on the paper. So now I have both lists: 1)a list of clothes I need to buy, and selected by the shops (So once Binco opens, I just go inside and already know what exactly to buy, then when Sub Urban opens I do the same, just go and buy all the several clothes I need, etc), and 2)a list of combinations of clothes I use during the game (I have several, for example once Binco opens I start wearing a set resembling green GSF colors, then once I move to the Badlands I wear a set of rural clothes, after getting to SF I change to a new set of clothes, and while in SF I change it once again to a new set, and lastly I use the last set of clothes I like, in LV. Well actually there is one more set - a new green GSF style set, for LS game finale part. Of course, sometimes in between I do some additional changes, like for example when doing the races I wear Michelle's racing suit and such stuff). So yeah, it was some nice hours of investigation, but at least now I have full and detailed lists, so no more wasting time on trying the clothes, now I just buy what I need, hence I spend as less as possible time on it

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The value of the different clothing stores and the options within is very simple and basic, buying a single item of new clothing usually removes your wanted level.  Agreed that changing outfits is over laborious, but if your goal is to rack up kills to increase your rank it is a worthwhile trade off.  The only glitch was that police could follow you into any Zip store.

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