The Dam: I hope it plays a major role in the game

[Jamie Smith]

Yo you really blew my mind on this one, really hope Rockstar do something similar to this =)!

[pigeons99]

I imagine there will be a mission which will pay direct homage to San Andreas.

One protagonist will make their way to the dam either by road, air or waterway and infiltrate it in a version of the San Andreas mission but made more realistic, complicated and in-depth and disable or destroy some sort of generator which will give the other two protagonists a 10-15 second window to perhaps get through a locked vault/door, or maybe even enter a place unseen before back up generators spool up all around the city ( So this way we get to see a nice 'lights out' effect before switching to see what the other two are doing.

After this, the protagonist at the damn must either:

 

A) Liberate a helicopter or seaplane near the damn to pick up the other two post their heist/kidnapping/assassination etc.

or

B) Perform a movie-esque jump from the damn to evade capture or death in a fashion similar to the opening scene of 007 Goldeneye before making their way to the others or a meet up point.

 

I think if the dam does get blown, it would only flood a valley below and directly infront as opposed to most of Los Santos. It would be cool though to have it blow and see the gush of water perhaps end up in the storm drains and you ride this to the freedom of the open sea.

[ChocoFrosty]

 

How about being able to bungee jump or base jump off the dam?

That's the main reason I was hoping it would be a little bit bigger. I don't see myself spending too much time at the dam if I don't have the option of jumping off for fun.

 

I also thought it would be really cool if there were spillways with tunnels that lead down to the lower side of the dam that were big enough to drive a motorcycle through.

Edited March 26, 2013 by ChocoFrosty

[wendtcod]

When looking at the picture below I see an excellent opportunity for an amazing climax beyond anything R* has done before.

 

 

(Please play this while looking at the picture and imagining the fire!)

Los Santos' Reckoning

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was thinking back to Batman Arkham City and how spectacular the climax of that game was. *Spoilers ahead* When "Protocol 10" was initiated, numerous helicopters began bombing the hell out of Arkham City. Everything was in complete and utter chaos and bordered on absolute ruin and total destruction. It got me thinking.... how can GTA V have an epic climax that will really blow us all away? Then I realized I had seen a picture somewhere along the way of a huge dam overlooking the city. Then it struck me... The dam could be involved in the final heist of the game completing an epic climax and creating an awesome finale the likes of which have never been seen before in a GTA game.

 

A mission like this would be monstrously huge, but image if we had to find a way to bypass security and sneak into the dam, plant explosives, and get away without ever being seen. That would make for one hell of a great mission. But that's not even the main plot point of the final mission. Blowing the dam is just "the distraction" which sets up the *main* and final mission. Once the dam blows and a majority of Los Santos is flooded, all eyes (civilian/police/military/government/media) would be on that. That will give the main characters a chance to exploit that unique opening and accomplish whatever it is they need to accomplish, which would otherwise be impossible to do. All the while the entire city is in utter chaos ala Arkham City during "Protocol 10."

 

As for the dam blowing, that could all be done via cutscene. The subsequent destruction is what we get to navigate through and play around in, just like in Batman AC.

 

 

As far as how they would rectify this once the main storyline is over.... whether one, two, or all three of the main characters survive, once the final mission is completed we could see them all ride off into the sunset, achieving whatever it is they wanted to achieve. That's when the game will flash forward something like 18 months later. The city has been mostly cleaned up, the dam rebuilt, and order restored. That way we can still play the post-storyline free-roam in a normal city and have everything back to normal in terms of the map.

 

 

 

What I've stated is just one possible idea of how the dam could come into play. Frankly, I don't care what they do as long as they actually use it. If they don't, it'll be like the complete waste of an opportunity the prison was in GTA IV. But I mean, having a dam in the game in the HD era is just begging to be included in a main story mission, and the most epic way to use it would be to ultimately destroy it causing a major flood. Just think about how freaking epic that would be and the subsequent aftermath. Totally insane! And with the use of cutscenes, totally possible.

 

I just hope R* really sets their sights sky high this time and gives us an epic finale the likes of which we've never seen before. Something truly epic in every sense of the word. We've seen it can be done ala Batman AC. I know R* could give us something that's several times that in terms of scope. I really hope they do.

 

Let the fire rise in Los Santos!

 

 

(As far as all the references to Batman AC, I'm not saying this game needs to be a clone of that, I'm just using it as an example of an epic climax where everything is in chaos which adds greatly to the impact of the overall story. And with this GTA being so huge and vast in every sense of the word, I was hoping the storyline would follow that same theme. What better way to do it than to plunge everything into complete and utter chaos for the epic conclusion)

 

Im def looking forward to riding down that with my bicycle.

[DoomsdayFAN]

You guys have had some really good ideas about what else the dam could be used for. Base jumping and bungee jumping would be great. And to those who pointed out that the dam is actually really small, thank you. I just noticed that after it was pointed out. I thought it looked smaller than the SA one but I wasn't sure. Haven't played that game in a years.

 

Anyway, with the dam being so much smaller, that takes care of a few things. #1) The smaller it is, the easier it will be to make work (blowing it). #2) The overall destruction and aftermath will be much smaller than I originally thought, meaning, only a very small portion of the city will actually be affected by flooding and huge floating chunks of concrete. That means the collateral damage will be at a minimum AND it will be much easier to program.

 

So, perhaps there's a reason they need to blow it. Not only does it serve as a distraction but perhaps there is an impenetrable building (think Fort Knox) sitting right along the path of the dam that requires something on the scale of actually blowing it to be able to heist.

 

 

Anyways, these are just a couple of ideas, but anything that involves something on the scale of blowing a dam would be just about as epic as you could possibly get. So, it's sort of a "duh" in terms of doing it for the grand finale.

 

But then again, including a prison break-out/heist mission in GTA IV was a no-brainer too but R* never even used the prison for anything outside of a brief cutscene.

[Backfire6]

Its just a damn dam

Exactly.

[AtomicPunk]

 

You're worse than the people that claim "VIDYA GAMES CAUSE [email protected][email protected][email protected]" It's a game.

Do I think video games cause violence? No. I enjoy violent games.

 

But I will be honest with you - I think they ARE a symptom of a larger problem. I think that violent games, as well as other forms of popular media, are a contributing factor to the desensitizing of Americas youth. That in turn leads to them being more blasé and so the future is very dark indeed.

 

Do I think violent games should be banned? Honestly - yes. But not just them. They should censor ALL popular media. They will never do that of course and so our world continues its slide into the abyss.

I think you're being sarcastic, but if not, then you commies/socialists would love cencorship to rule, but it will never happen in Amerika. That's freedom of expression. And there is no scientific evidence that links violent media to the influence of violent crime. That's all liberal horsesh*t. Healthy people know the difference between a game and real life, so, desensitizing is a mute point. The future will be dark if parents don't start spending more time with their kids and instilling goodness into them instead of letting them believe in nothing. I have to talk to my kids almost everyday because of all the trashy kids they go to school with have no common decency because their paraents have none. That's why the future will be dark. A game is a game. A psycho is a psycho if they play games or not. Explain why these things happened before games, movies, etc..

 

I have no problem blowing a dam in a video game. I think it would be fun, but we probably won't see stuff like that 'til late next gen. I bet that I don't go down to my real-life dam and blow it. Only a sicko would hurt thousands of innocent people.

Edited March 28, 2013 by AtomicPunk

[Zulu412]

I think they would sanction that murder. Why? Blowing stuff up is fun. Most people are programmed that way. You're programmed differently

Its all about the character of the protags. Not all of them are dirty, crazy shitbags like trevor. I dont believe that Michael and Franklin would be ok with killing 100,000 people in one stroke just to serve as a distraction. They are criminals - but they aren't monsters.

 

 

But im guessing your one of our esteemed community members that idolizes that bullet-sponge trevor. In that case you should be saying that the protags should sneak onto the military base and steal a nuclear warhead so they can kill MILLIONS and destroy the entire city! That way trevor can shoplift some candy bars from a gas station while the clerk cries because everyone she knows and loves is dead! Totally worth it!

 

 

BTW - Im GLAD that im not programmed to enjoy mass murder and distruction. I feel sorry for anyone who IS programmed to enjoy it.

why are you even on a GTA forum? you realize it's a game. Trevor, Michael, Franklin...they're all gonna kill a bunch of people, every protag has.

If it wasn't enjoyable then no one would be on here. Including you, hypocrite.

[Los Santos County Sheriff]

I think they would sanction that murder. Why? Blowing stuff up is fun. Most people are programmed that way. You're programmed differently

Its all about the character of the protags. Not all of them are dirty, crazy shitbags like trevor. I dont believe that Michael and Franklin would be ok with killing 100,000 people in one stroke just to serve as a distraction. They are criminals - but they aren't monsters.

 

 

But im guessing your one of our esteemed community members that idolizes that bullet-sponge trevor. In that case you should be saying that the protags should sneak onto the military base and steal a nuclear warhead so they can kill MILLIONS and destroy the entire city! That way trevor can shoplift some candy bars from a gas station while the clerk cries because everyone she knows and loves is dead! Totally worth it!

 

 

BTW - Im GLAD that im not programmed to enjoy mass murder and distruction. I feel sorry for anyone who IS programmed to enjoy it.

why are you even on a GTA forum? you realize it's a game. Trevor, Michael, Franklin...they're all gonna kill a bunch of people, every protag has.

If it wasn't enjoyable then no one would be on here. Including you, hypocrite.

Look asshole, before you start calling people names maybe you should try UNDERSTANDING what I wrote. There isn't a problem killing people in the game every now and then during criminal activities, but im saying that Michael and Franklin might have a moral problem killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in one stroke just to cause a distraction.

[Racecarlock]

I think they would sanction that murder. Why? Blowing stuff up is fun. Most people are programmed that way. You're programmed differently

Its all about the character of the protags. Not all of them are dirty, crazy shitbags like trevor. I dont believe that Michael and Franklin would be ok with killing 100,000 people in one stroke just to serve as a distraction. They are criminals - but they aren't monsters.

 

 

But im guessing your one of our esteemed community members that idolizes that bullet-sponge trevor. In that case you should be saying that the protags should sneak onto the military base and steal a nuclear warhead so they can kill MILLIONS and destroy the entire city! That way trevor can shoplift some candy bars from a gas station while the clerk cries because everyone she knows and loves is dead! Totally worth it!

 

 

BTW - Im GLAD that im not programmed to enjoy mass murder and distruction. I feel sorry for anyone who IS programmed to enjoy it.

why are you even on a GTA forum? you realize it's a game. Trevor, Michael, Franklin...they're all gonna kill a bunch of people, every protag has.

If it wasn't enjoyable then no one would be on here. Including you, hypocrite.

Look asshole, before you start calling people names maybe you should try UNDERSTANDING what I wrote. There isn't a problem killing people in the game every now and then during criminal activities, but im saying that Michael and Franklin might have a moral problem killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in one stroke just to cause a distraction.

Morality. Yeah, that's something I want in a character that I'm later going to use to run over thousands of people.

 

I don't care about morality, I just want to destroy sh*t. You can make well written villains out of that.

[The real coast guard]

And the grade-A pussy award goes to los santos county sheriff. Grab Manhunt 2 and give it a bash, seriously, it's a great game, right up your alley.

 

OT: I mentioned somewhere about the idea of underwater heists, from the moment I saw the dam I thought how cool it would be to flood the city and then rob a bank or something while its underwater, would make for some awesome gameplay.

 

[DJ_McLovin]

I can't tell if the sheriff is trolling or if he's just a Grade-A douchebag.

[Los Santos County Sheriff]

 

I don't care about morality, I just want to destroy sh*t.

Racecar I have been reading your post for a long time and NEVER have I seen more honest words come from you.

 

 

And the grade-A pussy award goes to los santos county sheriff.

 

I can't tell if the sheriff is trolling or if he's just a Grade-A douchebag.

I do love how I never personally attack anyone yet you people think you can attack me at will. Then when I reply to defend myself IM the one who gets warned and temp banned. Guess I dont suck enough moderator cock.

Edited March 28, 2013 by Los Santos County Sheriff

[DJ_McLovin]

Maybe if you didn't troll, you wouldn't get sanctioned by moderation.

 

OT: Would the consoles be able to handle blowing up the damn and the subsequent flooding of Los Santos?

[DoomsdayFAN]

Would the consoles be able to handle blowing up the damn and the subsequent flooding of Los Santos?

This gen, it depends on how it's done. Yes, it can be done, but most likely a majority of the sequence where the dam explodes and breaks apart and the flooding, and subsequent damage and aftermath, would have to be done via cutscenes and other tricks. There's no way to do it "live" in-game during gameplay on current gen. At least I don't think there is.

 

 

 

For the PS4 though, I have no doubt a fully destructible environment could be realized. An in-game "live" one at that. I can't wait! No more invulnerable worlds with buildings and houses and trees and fences, etc. made from adamantium. Lol, I've been waiting for fully destructible environments since the PS2/GTA SA era.

[Racecarlock]

I don't care about morality, I just want to destroy sh*t.

Racecar I have been reading your post for a long time and NEVER have I seen more honest words come from you.

Cool. Now let me just ask, because I'm curious. Why do you think people were buying the games? Yes, a lot of them do buy it for the story, but a lot of them also buy it for the mayhem.

 

Hell, even you kill people. They may be flying gang flags but they're still people.

 

The most important thing to remember is none of it is real. The peds we kill are pixels. It's about as violent as professional wrestling. Actually, it might be less violent since professional wrestling still uses real people.

[Los Santos County Sheriff]

 

Maybe if you didn't troll, you wouldn't get sanctioned by moderation.

So having a contradicting opinion is considered "trolling"? Silly me I thought this was a FORUM instead of the third reich.

 

Let me try to fit in better:

 

*clears throat*

 

"Ihr seid völlig Recht über alles! Die öffentliche Meinung ist die einzig richtige Meinung! Ihre Ideen sind überhaupt nicht verzögert! Sie sind völlig plausible!

 

HEIL AADRIAN!"

 

Is that better?

Edited March 28, 2013 by Los Santos County Sheriff

[AtomicPunk]

It doesn't matter how many people Trevor kills. It's a mute point in the grand scheme of things in a GTA universe. It's free and clear. There is no question of morality in that world. If there were then GTA would be a boring a$$ game. Michael would slaughter 100,000 the same as Franklin would. Noone is better than anyone else in this regard and I don't understand people trying to assign some sort of morality with any of these men. They're all a bunch of criminals--this IS GTA! Kill all the mutha F'ers ya can because they will just spawn right back!!