DoomsdayFAN Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 When looking at the picture below I see an excellent opportunity for an amazing climax beyond anything R* has done before. (Please play this while looking at the picture and imagining the fire!) Los Santos' Reckoning I was thinking back to Batman Arkham City and how spectacular the climax of that game was. *Spoilers ahead* When "Protocol 10" was initiated, numerous helicopters began bombing the hell out of Arkham City. Everything was in complete and utter chaos and bordered on absolute ruin and total destruction. It got me thinking.... how can GTA V have an epic climax that will really blow us all away? Then I realized I had seen a picture somewhere along the way of a huge dam overlooking the city. Then it struck me... The dam could be involved in the final heist of the game completing an epic climax and creating an awesome finale the likes of which have never been seen before in a GTA game. A mission like this would be monstrously huge, but image if we had to find a way to bypass security and sneak into the dam, plant explosives, and get away without ever being seen. That would make for one hell of a great mission. But that's not even the main plot point of the final mission. Blowing the dam is just "the distraction" which sets up the *main* and final mission. Once the dam blows and a majority of Los Santos is flooded, all eyes (civilian/police/military/government/media) would be on that. That will give the main characters a chance to exploit that unique opening and accomplish whatever it is they need to accomplish, which would otherwise be impossible to do. All the while the entire city is in utter chaos ala Arkham City during "Protocol 10." As for the dam blowing, that could all be done via cutscene. The subsequent destruction is what we get to navigate through and play around in, just like in Batman AC. As far as how they would rectify this once the main storyline is over.... whether one, two, or all three of the main characters survive, once the final mission is completed we could see them all ride off into the sunset, achieving whatever it is they wanted to achieve. That's when the game will flash forward something like 18 months later. The city has been mostly cleaned up, the dam rebuilt, and order restored. That way we can still play the post-storyline free-roam in a normal city and have everything back to normal in terms of the map. What I've stated is just one possible idea of how the dam could come into play. Frankly, I don't care what they do as long as they actually use it. If they don't, it'll be like the complete waste of an opportunity the prison was in GTA IV. But I mean, having a dam in the game in the HD era is just begging to be included in a main story mission, and the most epic way to use it would be to ultimately destroy it causing a major flood. Just think about how freaking epic that would be and the subsequent aftermath. Totally insane! And with the use of cutscenes, totally possible. I just hope R* really sets their sights sky high this time and gives us an epic finale the likes of which we've never seen before. Something truly epic in every sense of the word. We've seen it can be done ala Batman AC. I know R* could give us something that's several times that in terms of scope. I really hope they do. Let the fire rise in Los Santos! (As far as all the references to Batman AC, I'm not saying this game needs to be a clone of that, I'm just using it as an example of an epic climax where everything is in chaos which adds greatly to the impact of the overall story. And with this GTA being so huge and vast in every sense of the word, I was hoping the storyline would follow that same theme. What better way to do it than to plunge everything into complete and utter chaos for the epic conclusion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 This sounds awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 You really do live by your username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeinthahouse Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Its just a damn dam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMohawkkinGx Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 That would only be possible on high-end PC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsdayFAN Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 That would only be possible on high-end PC's. Perhaps if everything happened real-time as we were actually playing through the mission. But through cut scenes, no, the major action pieces (ala the dam actually breaking apart and collapsing and the water rushing into the city) could be realized, easily. Then for the subsequent mission where we go into the flooded/damaged city to do whatever it is we're required to do, that could be done via loading a "damaged city" application over the existing map (sorta like an overlay) for the final mission. Perhaps after the cutscene of the dam breaking, the screen could cut to black, load, then fade back in to the damaged city that we now must traverse. The example I used many times (Batman Arkham City) showed the city being blown to hell and things getting destroyed. It's a similar concept here, only much grander. It could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocoFrosty Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Then I realized I had seen a picture somewhere along the way of a huge dam overlooking the city. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed with how puny the dam is in this screenshot. I would've thought a dam in GTA V would be at least as big as the one in San Andreas, but this doesn't look like it could even be a quarter of the size of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Quixote Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Sounds very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 No terrorist, but I hope we get to buy it. BTW. I didnt read it all. way too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulder84 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 That would only be possible on high-end PC's. Perhaps if everything happened real-time as we were actually playing through the mission. But through cut scenes, no, the major action pieces (ala the dam actually breaking apart and collapsing and the water rushing into the city) could be realized, easily. Then for the subsequent mission where we go into the flooded/damaged city to do whatever it is we're required to do, that could be done via loading a "damaged city" application over the existing map (sorta like an overlay) for the final mission. Perhaps after the cutscene of the dam breaking, the screen could cut to black, load, then fade back in to the damaged city that we now must traverse. The example I used many times (Batman Arkham City) showed the city being blown to hell and things getting destroyed. It's a similar concept here, only much grander. It could be done. This is by no means a bad idea, in fact it'll be epic, like a less goofier version of this: But Rockstar has never used preloaded cutscenes, and the result and damage of a flood (especially from a destroyed dam) would change pretty much the whole Los Santos landscape, at least in the city. It's hard to recreate the post disaster environment realistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Santos County Sheriff Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 First, a question: Did you like Batman AC at all? Second, i cant see Michael or Franklin (im hoping trevor will be dead by then) sanctioning the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people just so they can rob something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 First, a question: Did you like Batman AC at all? Second, i cant see Michael or Franklin (im hoping trevor will be dead by then) sanctioning the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people just so they can rob something. Don't you have a patrol to get to or something? I hear a highly wanted criminal named "CJ" is in the LS area with a tank right now. Go get him or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Then I realized I had seen a picture somewhere along the way of a huge dam overlooking the city. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed with how puny the dam is in this screenshot. I would've thought a dam in GTA V would be at least as big as the one in San Andreas, but this doesn't look like it could even be a quarter of the size of that. But the Hoover Dam, which is near Las Vegas and what the Dam in San Andreas is based on, is one of the largest in the world. The dam in V is based off a much smaller dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Santos County Sheriff Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 First, a question: Did you like Batman AC at all? Second, i cant see Michael or Franklin (im hoping trevor will be dead by then) sanctioning the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people just so they can rob something. Don't you have a patrol to get to or something? I hear a highly wanted criminal named "CJ" is in the LS area with a tank right now. Go get him or whatever. Ummmmm...... ok then..... Anyway...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil ski Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Pretty Damn awesome if they added this famous scene in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 First, a question: Did you like Batman AC at all? Second, i cant see Michael or Franklin (im hoping trevor will be dead by then) sanctioning the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people just so they can rob something. Don't you have a patrol to get to or something? I hear a highly wanted criminal named "CJ" is in the LS area with a tank right now. Go get him or whatever. Ummmmm...... ok then..... Anyway...... I think they would sanction that murder. Why? Blowing stuff up is fun. Most people are programmed that way. You're programmed differently, that's great, enjoy the story. But I really do wish you guys would get off of other player's backs for blowing stuff up instead of playing the story. If rockstar really wanted people to experience the story that badly, they would have taken the Mafia II approach and made the game linear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Santos County Sheriff Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I think they would sanction that murder. Why? Blowing stuff up is fun. Most people are programmed that way. You're programmed differently Its all about the character of the protags. Not all of them are dirty, crazy shitbags like trevor. I dont believe that Michael and Franklin would be ok with killing 100,000 people in one stroke just to serve as a distraction. They are criminals - but they aren't monsters. But im guessing your one of our esteemed community members that idolizes that bullet-sponge trevor. In that case you should be saying that the protags should sneak onto the military base and steal a nuclear warhead so they can kill MILLIONS and destroy the entire city! That way trevor can shoplift some candy bars from a gas station while the clerk cries because everyone she knows and loves is dead! Totally worth it! BTW - Im GLAD that im not programmed to enjoy mass murder and distruction. I feel sorry for anyone who IS programmed to enjoy it. Edited March 25, 2013 by Los Santos County Sheriff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DODI3OG Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Well, the game'll have to load a script for the City to be flooded and in a state of Dissaray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewyR Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I think they would sanction that murder. Why? Blowing stuff up is fun. Most people are programmed that way. You're programmed differently Its all about the character of the protags. Not all of them are dirty, crazy shitbags like trevor. I dont believe that Michael and Franklin would be ok with killing 100,000 people in one stroke just to serve as a distraction. They are criminals - but they aren't monsters. But im guessing your one of our esteemed community members that idolizes that bullet-sponge trevor. In that case you should be saying that the protags should sneak onto the military base and steal a nuclear warhead so they can kill MILLIONS and destroy the entire city! That way trevor can shoplift some candy bars from a gas station while the clerk cries because everyone she knows and loves is dead! Totally worth it! BTW - Im GLAD that im not programmed to enjoy mass murder and distruction. I feel sorry for anyone who IS programmed to enjoy it. You're worse than the people that claim "VIDYA GAMES CAUSE [email protected][email protected][email protected]" It's a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Santos County Sheriff Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 You're worse than the people that claim "VIDYA GAMES CAUSE [email protected][email protected][email protected]" It's a game. Do I think video games cause violence? No. I enjoy violent games. But I will be honest with you - I think they ARE a symptom of a larger problem. I think that violent games, as well as other forms of popular media, are a contributing factor to the desensitizing of Americas youth. That in turn leads to them being more blasé and so the future is very dark indeed. Do I think violent games should be banned? Honestly - yes. But not just them. They should censor ALL popular media. They will never do that of course and so our world continues its slide into the abyss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Then I realized I had seen a picture somewhere along the way of a huge dam overlooking the city. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed with how puny the dam is in this screenshot. I would've thought a dam in GTA V would be at least as big as the one in San Andreas, but this doesn't look like it could even be a quarter of the size of that. Honestly go to Google Maps and look at the quantity of the few dams surrounding Los Angeles. They're not really that huge, and it would be quite odd to have a Hoover style dam right on the sprawling city's outskirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremoMania Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Then I realized I had seen a picture somewhere along the way of a huge dam overlooking the city. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed with how puny the dam is in this screenshot. I would've thought a dam in GTA V would be at least as big as the one in San Andreas, but this doesn't look like it could even be a quarter of the size of that. Honestly go to Google Maps and look at the quantity of the few dams surrounding Los Angeles. They're not really that huge, and it would be quite odd to have a Hoover style dam right on the sprawling city's outskirts. That's because the Sherman Dam in Las Venturas that is based in Hoover Dam is located in Nevada which provides power to Las Vegas. There's no way a Hoover look-alike dam will be based on real-life LA dams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewyR Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 You're worse than the people that claim "VIDYA GAMES CAUSE [email protected][email protected][email protected]" It's a game. Do I think video games cause violence? No. I enjoy violent games. But I will be honest with you - I think they ARE a symptom of a larger problem. I think that violent games, as well as other forms of popular media, are a contributing factor to the desensitizing of Americas youth. That in turn leads to them being more blasé and so the future is very dark indeed. Do I think violent games should be banned? Honestly - yes. But not just them. They should censor ALL popular media. They will never do that of course and so our world continues its slide into the abyss. I don't want this thread to turn into a debate but I laughed. "They should censor ALL popular media." Sorry, this is utterly retarded. We do not need to censor popular media, it's down to the parents to limit and censor it. 18+ games DO NOT affect or lead to violence in any sane adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 You're worse than the people that claim "VIDYA GAMES CAUSE [email protected][email protected][email protected]" It's a game. Do I think video games cause violence? No. I enjoy violent games. But I will be honest with you - I think they ARE a symptom of a larger problem. I think that violent games, as well as other forms of popular media, are a contributing factor to the desensitizing of Americas youth. That in turn leads to them being more blasé and so the future is very dark indeed. Do I think violent games should be banned? Honestly - yes. But not just them. They should censor ALL popular media. They will never do that of course and so our world continues its slide into the abyss. I laughed - a lot. Well you have certainly reached a new low. Regarding the thread: I personally believe the dam is just for decoration and realism. The region of Southern California is a dry one thus you need resoivors - which sometimes require damns depending where it is. There is a damn bordering the city, that doesn't indicate a future explosion. It's just decor, likr the one in Shoreside Vale in GTA III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggot899 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 ...But is it a god damn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.kiwi_4 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I think it will end up getting blown up in either the penultimate mission or the final mission (or an important one). | | Watch this from 1:40 onwards, I'm not sure about the language haha Imagine this flood raging towards Los Santos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 From looking at the picture, i think that at the last heist aka the last mission hey steal the money,fly out to the dam as its the only place they won't be tracked, and a group of people (crook cops,crook FBI,Mafia members?) do an exchange or michael owes them a large amount of mnoey which he tells The other two leater on which becomes more about Michael's needs then EVERYONES... then i assume something happens and they all go into a shootout, a Heli with a rocket launcher fires off at the dam, the enemies fall off the side and die...that's what came to my mind. Michael hurt says "why did i move here? it musts been the weather..." like in the trailer. he either dies or survives then credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firemaniac72001 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 are there any dam questions yea where can i get some damn bait lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7070 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 How about being able to bungee jump or base jump off the dam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The dam is definately a place where i can imagine the final mission taking place. Most action movies, or video games end in some sort of standoff in a secluded or abandoned place. Usually a place like an abandoned warehouse, or a grandiose location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...