Most dangerous competitor.

[grandthefthoughto]

I'll say nothing. Assassins Creed Black Flag is not in the slightest a competitor, it looks like it'll be a great game but it's a completely different genre and style of game.

 

Saints Row IV looks like a SR3 DLC and with the OTT powers and guns is again completely different than GTA, the only real similarity is cars and being open-world.

 

Watch Dogs could have been a competitor however being on next gen consoles will mean it won't be. It does look good but people will now have to buy a next gen console (circa £300/$450) before buying the actual game. Therefore its sales will be directly influenced by the sales of the next console. Lets say PS4 comes out in October, you'll have a lot of sales initially (a few million worldwide, if PS3 sales are to go by only 1,000,000 had been shipped to the US in the first 2 months) then it'll tail off untill Xmas when it'll pick up again (few more million worldwide) and then from Spring 2014 sales will probably hit a good regular amount. Even if everyone who buys the next gen console buys Watch Dogs it's still not going to be a major threat to GTA, when GTA IV racked up 6 million sales in the first week alone!

watchdogs is also slated for release on ps3 and xbox360.

[Quackerz Gamerz]

Watch Dogs is probably he only game that has a chance, be it a small one, to compete with GTA. After watching SR:IV's trailer, I knew that game will never pass GTA V, but Watch Dogs does have some potential.

 

 

[GoldenBlade]

Nothing compares to GTA V. Period.

[NONative]

Zee? Would the point of that game be to get banned as fast as possible? Zee was a chic looking for attention on here because no one gave it to him in real life. And if Zee would have became a mod Miami would have hung himself with his computers power cable by now.

 

But back on topic, ACIV is the only one close enough to hurt GTA sales. SR4 is just a DLC on steroids, WD is to far away for GTAs release to hurt it. AC is the only legit contender to GTA.

[JB94]

 

ZEE the Video Game for sure.

What is that?

I wanna know that too??

ZEE was a user on this site. for some unknown reason all of his comments were negative towards rockstar, even though he was A MASSIVE rockstar fanboy.

You do know he's a moderator now?

Troll or truth?

 

[Mr.Moffat]

GTA is a well established franchise, well known and desired even by the most causal of gamers, it will sell no matter what. I don't really get why people bring up these topics anyway, these type of disscuissions imo anyway are only valid when we are talking about a new and unproven franchise such as watch dogs, which has alot to prove.

Even if one of gta's compettitors did very very well, it would make no difference to gtas success, and in the end you will still play it anyway so sales should'nt concern the gamers.

[Andreas]

 

Do not underestimate Watchdogs.

Watch Dogs is a cross-generation game and the majority of the sales of that game will be on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC. The graphics won't be as good on the current-generation consoles as on the next-generations consoles or on a High-End PC, that's for sure. The game will be probably good but if we consider the fact that Watch Dogs is a new IP, it won't sell as good as a caliber like Grand Theft Auto, a game series that exists since over 15 years already.

 

 

Yeah, that's kinda suspicious, isn't it?

 

This post has been edited by Zee on Friday, Mar 22 2013, 22:23

[GarrowsKai]

I'll say nothing.  Assassins Creed Black Flag is not in the slightest a competitor, it looks like it'll be a great game but it's a completely different genre and style of game. 

 

Saints Row IV looks like a SR3 DLC and with the OTT powers and guns is again completely different than GTA, the only real similarity is cars and being open-world.

 

Watch Dogs could have been a competitor however being on next gen consoles will mean it won't be.  It does look good but people will now have to buy a next gen console (circa £300/$450) before buying the actual game.  Therefore its sales will be directly influenced by the sales of the next console.  Lets say PS4 comes out in October, you'll have a lot of sales initially (a few million worldwide, if PS3 sales are to go by only 1,000,000 had been shipped to the US in the first 2 months) then it'll tail off untill Xmas when it'll pick up again (few more million worldwide) and then from Spring 2014 sales will probably hit a good regular amount.  Even if everyone who buys the next gen console buys Watch Dogs it's still not going to be a major threat to GTA,  when GTA IV racked up 6 million sales in the first week alone!

watchdogs is also slated for release on ps3 and xbox360.

Ah in that case it could be more of a competitor, but I still think R* has nothing really to fear from it. People know what they're getting with GTA and most people if they have to choose will probably go with GTA.

[Lelouch The Zero]

Watch Cats

[jamieleng]

There's nothing I'd like more than to have another open world game that is of the same level & scope as GTA. I mean we've got The Last of Us & Bioshock Infinite, which are looking like some of the best games of this generation. However there's no other open world crime sandbox game that comes even close to the technical achievements of GTA V. Along with a top notch story, with well written characters, witty dialogue & cohesive universe.

 

I really hope Watch Dogs is as good as those demo's make it out to be, but I'm pessimistic when it comes to the promises of developers & publishers.

Edited March 22, 2013 by jamieleng

[GarrowsKai]

There's nothing I'd like more than to have another open world game that is of the same level & scope as GTA. I mean we've got The Last of Us & Bioshock Infinite, which are looking like some of the best games of this generation. However there's no other open world crime sandbox game that comes even close to the technical achievements of GTA V. Along with a top notch story, with well written characters, witty dialogue & cohesive universe.

 

I really hope Watch Dogs is as good as those demo's make it out to be, but I'm a pessimistic when it comes to the promises of developers & publishers.

I think GTA has succeeded because R* is a fairly independent company. As they have said they're taking there time to put the polish on it, something which would be harder to do were they under the yoke of a major company like EA or Ubisoft. This means they can take that extra time over everything such as the story and humor which GTA work.

[saintsrow]

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing."

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans. Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

[Dick Valor]

 

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing." 

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans.  Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

I know the silence stings but are you just venting or is this actually your personal experience? Besides the fact that we're both here, I've never heard so many casual gamers (and people who hardly game at all) talk about a game as much as GTA V. Anytime the topic of gaming comes up at a party or hanging with friends, the first words on everyone's lips are... "how about that GTA V?"

[NONative]

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing."

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans. Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

I agree!! R* needs a marketing campaign through the summer.

 

Also guys watch dogs may be slated for current gen but it will be releasing is the holiday season, so on ps4 release or after. It's to far to hurt GTA sales.

[saintsrow]

 

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing." 

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans.  Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

I know the silence stings but are you just venting or is this actually your personal experience? Besides the fact that we're both here, I've never heard so many casual gamers (and people who hardly game at all) talk about a game as much as GTA V. Anytime the topic of gaming comes up at a party or hanging with friends, the first words on everyone's lips are... "how about that GTA V?"

I was mostly venting, but it is an interesting billion-dollar question, as to what is the constituency for GTAV? For many gamers, it's "just another game." I know some of them. I actually don't know of any other GTA hardcore fans except on this forum. For the people who have played everything since GTA III, we know the true magic that is a full-bodied GTA, that there is nothing else like it. For us, "everything else is just a game."

 

But how many of us are there, who know about GTA, who are still paying $60 + $DLC for games? It's been so long that a lot of former GTA fans have wife and kids now, and indulging the money and the time in GTA is a harder sell. In the absence of a killer marketing campaign, one might ask why GTAV sales will be bigger than RDR sales?

 

My opinion actually is that GTAV will be BIG. But I am pissed about the marketing.

[The Scottish Guy]

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing."

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans. Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

*Quoted for truth.

 

Most of my circle who you'd consider 'casual gamers' were hyped and impressed to the max when the first trailer dropped. Now, none of them really have much to say whenever I bring up V. As far as I'm concerned, R* really have to rubber stamp their authority in the gaming industry when finally beginning the full scale train of marketing to regain interest from the typical "weekender gamer".

 

 

[ScottishHeist123]

 

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing." 

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans.  Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

*Quoted for truth.

 

Most of my circle who you'd consider 'casual gamers' were hyped and impressed to the max when the first trailer dropped. Now, none of them really have much to say whenever I bring up V. As far as I'm concerned, R* really have to rubber stamp their authority in the gaming industry when finally beginning the full scale train of marketing to regain interest from the typical "weekender gamer".

And they will have a killer marketing campaign in the coming months.

 

I love Rockstar, and I admire and respect them a lot. They're very independent and they like making their games the best they can be. The downside to this is their GTA V marketing has been, in the long run, pretty empty. They only release info & screenshots when they feel it's 100% (which is fine), but it means the casual gamer loses interest.

[Dick Valor]

 

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing." 

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans.  Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

I know the silence stings but are you just venting or is this actually your personal experience? Besides the fact that we're both here, I've never heard so many casual gamers (and people who hardly game at all) talk about a game as much as GTA V. Anytime the topic of gaming comes up at a party or hanging with friends, the first words on everyone's lips are... "how about that GTA V?"

I was mostly venting, but it is an interesting billion-dollar question, as to what is the constituency for GTAV? For many gamers, it's "just another game." I know some of them. I actually don't know of any other GTA hardcore fans except on this forum. For the people who have played everything since GTA III, we know the true magic that is a full-bodied GTA, that there is nothing else like it. For us, "everything else is just a game."

 

But how many of us are there, who know about GTA, who are still paying $60 + $DLC for games? It's been so long that a lot of former GTA fans have wife and kids now, and indulging the money and the time in GTA is a harder sell. In the absence of a killer marketing campaign, one might ask why GTAV sales will be bigger than RDR sales?

 

My opinion actually is that GTAV will be BIG. But I am pissed about the marketing.

Feel exactly the same... especially the "true magic that is a full-bodied GTA" bit. For us, everything else is just a game... well put, good sir.

 

While not everyone feels this way, I have to assume V's constituency, as you put it, is very high. I'm 27 and several of my friends are now married and don't game at all... and yet, somehow, I've been pleasantly surprised to find these friends excited about V. Only time will tell how big V is. It will undoubtedly destroy the competitors mentioned here, as well as RDR's sales... but what about the big one, the truly interesting competitor (at least as far as sales are concerned)... CoD? We'll find out September.

[The Scottish Guy]

The most dangerous competitor to GTAV is Rockstar's GTAV "anticipation marketing." 

 

That may kill the sales of GTAV except for a million or so hardcore fans.  Everybody else says, "GTA What?".

*Quoted for truth.

 

Most of my circle who you'd consider 'casual gamers' were hyped and impressed to the max when the first trailer dropped. Now, none of them really have much to say whenever I bring up V. As far as I'm concerned, R* really have to rubber stamp their authority in the gaming industry when finally beginning the full scale train of marketing to regain interest from the typical "weekender gamer".

And they will have a killer marketing campaign in the coming months.

 

I love Rockstar, and I admire and respect them a lot. They're very independent and they like making their games the best they can be. The downside to this is their GTA V marketing has been, in the long run, pretty empty. They only release info & screenshots when they feel it's 100% (which is fine), but it means the casual gamer loses interest.

Precisely. I read alot of comments in here about how we're "still visiting this forum so we're obviously still hyped - so the rest of the world must be too". What these guys are forgetting, is that this is a forum dedicated to the franchise, so obviously we are still interested in the game. They seem to forget that the gaming world expands beyond this place, and that GTA V may not be a top priority to others.

 

But as you say, despite Novembers blowout not reaching many of my friends, I firmly believe R* will win back all these guys when the marketing kicks into full swing. Whenever the hell that may be.

[TheYeast]

Call of Duty: 2013 title.

 

but GTA V will win game of the year in almost all gaming publications.

[Greeno]

 

Watch Dogs is the closest competitor I can think of.

 

I feel sorry for whoever thinks SR IV can compete with GTA V.

Even people with at least half a brain should know that Saints Row "IV" is going to fail.

 

R.I.P. Saints Row

[Durden]

The poll isn't half bad, but there's a couple errors.

 

1. ZEE the video game. Really? There's a time to be facetious, and making poll options is not one of them.

2. "Nothing"? You may as well have made that the only option. The question specifically asks which game is the "most dangerous". Most dangerous can mean not dangerous at all, yet it's still the most dangerous because it can slightly deter V's sales.

 

 

Then again I am on GTAF... 'suppose I should be more accepting. For the sake of relevancy, I voted Watch_Dogs since that's literally the answer to the poll.

[98 in 1]

 

The poll isn't half bad, but there's a couple errors.

 

1. ZEE the video game. Really? There's a time to be facetious, and making poll options is not one of them.

2. "Nothing"? You may as well have made that the only option. The question specifically asks which game is the "most dangerous". Most dangerous can mean not dangerous at all, yet it's still the most dangerous because it can slightly deter V's sales.

 

 

Then  again I am on GTAF... 'suppose I should be more accepting. For the sake of relevancy, I voted Watch_Dogs since that's literally the answer to the poll.

You spelt it wrong. It's "ZEE the Video Game" not "ZEE the video game".

 

 

OT: Watch Dogs looks nice, but I highly doubt it will have nearly as much things to do as V. As far as competition goes, that's the closest game because SR completely removed themselves from the playing field from what we've seen from the teaser trailer. However, I feel like WD will be a lot more linear than what Ubisoft is letting on, despite it being an open world game.

[ShadowDog94]

COD is actually the biggest competitor, even though it's a sh*tty game.

[Greeno]

The poll isn't half bad, but there's a couple errors.

 

1. ZEE the video game. Really? There's a time to be facetious, and making poll options is not one of them.

2. "Nothing"? You may as well have made that the only option. The question specifically asks which game is the "most dangerous". Most dangerous can mean not dangerous at all, yet it's still the most dangerous because it can slightly deter V's sales.

 

 

Then  again I am on GTAF... 'suppose I should be more accepting. For the sake of relevancy, I voted Watch_Dogs since that's literally the answer to the poll.

You spelt it wrong. It's "ZEE the Video Game" not "ZEE the video game".

 

 

OT: Watch Dogs looks nice, but I highly doubt it will have nearly as much things to do as V. As far as competition goes, that's the closest game because SR completely removed themselves from the playing field from what we've seen from the teaser trailer. However, I feel like WD will be a lot more linear than what Ubisoft is letting on, despite it being an open world game.

He didn't spell it wrong, his grammar was slightly incorrect.

[98 in 1]

He didn't spell it wrong, his grammar was slightly incorrect.

All the same, he must watch himself when he refers to the game that will end all games.

[Capricornus]

I will also say that Watch Dogs is the closest competitor. Even in this section, it's been discussed for months. I will be buying GTA V, Watch Dogs, Saint's Row 4 and Assassin's Creed IV. However, I have a great feeling GTA V will have nearly nothing to worry about. Then again I don't care.

[Revolution-XW]

What's the point of 'nothing' choice when you ask for the 'most dangerous game competitor'?

 

My choice is Watch Dogs, and it wont be much of a deal for Gta imo.

[roostersrule2]

The only game in terms of sales to GTA is COD, (though most of it's revenue is spent on review scores) other games such as AC IV and Watch Dogs should compete in terms of gameplay, story etc., but think of it like this GTA V is the new PS4, AC IV is the Xbox 720 they'll both sell big , Watch Dogs is the steam box, a new innovative take on things and Saints Row is the Wii U, different and tries hard but will struggle with sales.

[John Footpenis]

I think Watch Dogs has the biggest chance in rivaling GTA on quality and review scores. Nothing is going to touch it in sales though apart from of course COD next. SR is just far out there now and AC just doesn't seem to be wowing its fans.

 

The only problem I can see with Watch Dogs is possibly having it be too serious. It'll need some comic relief and interesting side missions to gather the casual players. So far, we haven't really seen that. (How often do we want to stop purse snatchers?)