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Introducing the idea of new cities.


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ChocoFrosty
R* is just setting up for a world tour game (all five cities in one game) then use all the newly referenced cities for the next chapter devil.gifcool.gifph34r.gif

 

*edit why doesnt it put spoiler on the smilies...#fail

It sounds crazy, but I think it would be totally worth waiting 7 years for that.

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I'd rather have a new location than all the old ones together. We've now been twice in LC and soon will have been twice in LS. If we get to visit VC a second time in the next GTA it better has some new islands we can screw around on tounge2.gif

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R* is just setting up for a world tour game (all five cities in one game) then use all the newly referenced cities for the next chapter  devil.gif  cool.gif  ph34r.gif

 

 

Im pretty sure I read in one of the interviews with Dan Houser he said that one living breathing "world" has always been their goal, they just knew it's not a goal to be rushed towards. Imo the day Consoles can do "real" mmo, not 24 tops or w/e their limit is, that'll be the day they start heading for "goal".

 

I just hope and pray im alive to see the day! tounge.gif

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Instead of a new city, they should and will join all the maps together with a big story, that's all.

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Yeah, carribean setting would also be awesome. Something with palm trees, jungles and bit...BEAches and I'm happy biggrin.gif

I don't know a caribbean setting for a GTA? I also didn't like the setting of Just Cause 2 that much. I am more for a setting like in Florida / Miami. Also caribbean, but not Cuba or similar.

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Yeah, carribean setting would also be awesome. Something with palm trees, jungles and bit...BEAches and I'm happy biggrin.gif

I don't know a caribbean setting for a GTA? I also didn't like the setting of Just Cause 2 that much. I am more for a setting like in Florida / Miami. Also caribbean, but not Cuba or similar.

Something with palm trees, jungles and bit...BEAches and I'm happy biggrin.gif

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I honestly don't know why they're rehasing old cities because they "didn't feel they did it justice the first time". When PS5 comes around, hell, PS6 even... GTA5 is going to look like a sh*t fest in comparison. Does that mean they'll feel the need to recreate it again? It's a never ending cycle because in hindsight, their games are always going to one day feel very dated.

 

I would love to see them do a scaled down Europe. Have the UK which could just be London + surrounding countryside, then below the water, Paris + countryside to the south, Germany to the east, etc... a nice caricature style Europe would be awesome. Nothing too oversized and grandiose. It'd be like a bigger San Andreas I guess

Sounds more like a Red Dead style map. If you didn't notice, Red Dead Redemption's map was a miniature caricature of the U.S and it was westernized.

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There's loads of things I'd like to see them do.

  • Vice City and Southern Florida including the Keys. Perhaps even some of the Caribbean Islands.
  • I've long wanted them to do San Fierro set in the '70s. A recreation of the whole bay area including perhaps Northern California.
  • But a new location I would very much love to see them do is Chicago and the Lake Michigan area perhaps including a version of Detroit too.
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There's loads of things I'd like to see them do.
  • Vice City and Southern Florida including the Keys. Perhaps even some of the Caribbean Islands.
  • I've long wanted them to do San Fierro set in the '70s. A recreation of the whole bay area including perhaps Northern California.
  • But a new location I would very much love to see them do is Chicago and the Lake Michigan area perhaps including a version of Detroit too.

Totally agreed! icon14.gif

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ChocoFrosty
I would love to see them do a scaled down Europe. Have the UK which could just be London + surrounding countryside, then below the water, Paris + countryside to the south, Germany to the east, etc... a nice caricature style Europe would be awesome. Nothing too oversized and grandiose. It'd be like a bigger San Andreas I guess

Like a GTA version of EPCOT! Only much larger and more detailed of course. I would love that. It would have something for everyone, not to mention the massive database of landmarks they'd have to choose from.

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Calling someone 'dipsh*t' or an offensive name is obviously rude. I did not call Chocofrost any kind of offensive name. I said I don't give a f**k about his personal tastes, that is not calling him names now is it ? Nice try, but what I said was clearly not quite the same thing.

 

And of course there is plenty of crime in Hawaii, I never said there was not. Can you read properly ? I said Honolulu/Hawaii has not much crime compared to Miami/South Florida. Hawaii in general is not well known for having high crime rates or a thriving organized crime or gang scene like other parts of the USA. Does not mean it don't exist, it just means it's not well known for it, thus making it unsuitable for a GTA location in my eyes and other right-thinking people.

well i WAS trying to be rude so i suceeded...

 

telling someone you "don't give a f*ck about their opinion" IS ALSO rude, so if your intention was really not to be rude you failed...

 

however i do accept your argument regarding hawaii...

 

 

...but you're still a dipsh*t.

 

 

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And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills.

Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about.

 

Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida.

not being rude but it's not really about your personal tastes either dipsh*t (oh hang on that was rude wasn't it?)

 

chocofrosty is just expressing his opinion (that's kinda how forums work).

 

and there's plenty of crime in hawaii.

The only way I would EVER accept Hawaii as a GTA location is if Dog The Bounty Hunter is the protag. All we'd be rounding up is ICE junkies because that's all those people are on, sad enough. NO ICE IN PARADISE!

 

If Vice city is done, I truly believe that we would get another state or two included. Or an island or two with mountains. Vice City is flat, so that would be how R* would remedy it. Dan Houser once said something about 'flat only' enviroments but I can't find it.

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I'd rather have a new location than all the old ones together. We've now been twice in LC and soon will have been twice in LS. If we get to visit VC a second time in the next GTA it better has some new islands we can screw around on tounge2.gif

Yea but this time it would be Liberty State not City. This includes a rendition of The Carraways (Long Island/Hamptons) along with Carcer City and Upstate with mountains. Alderney will be revisted with a (semi)full rendition of New Jersey State (referencing even more new cities along the way). So LC won't be as boring that go-'round.

 

But after that i think the new chapter of cities will start in Capital City, the new LC. Then something simple but cultural (kind of how VC was) like Atlanta or Salt Lake City... and then Texas State with Dallas, Houston, and El Paso (kind of how SA was)

 

Just my opinion ph34r.gif

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I wish they'd go ahead and make that GTA:Bogota game they hinted at years ago. Would be a really interesting departure from current games.

 

Or a game set in London in the 80s because that would be brilliant. I read a concept thread a few years back in which they went into great detail about their propsed GTA:London and it was truly fascinating. Rise of the rave culture and the drug trade that came with it, football violence, widespread racism and gang violence. Looked like it had the makings of a brilliant game.

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There's loads of things I'd like to see them do.

 

Vice City and Southern Florida including the Keys.  Perhaps even some of the Caribbean Islands.

 

I've long wanted them to do San Fierro set in the '70s.  A recreation of the whole bay area including perhaps Northern California.

 

But a new location I would very much love to see them do is Chicago and the Lake Michigan area perhaps including a version of Detroit too.

 

Totally agreed! icon14.gif

Nooo, not a northern located city again. NY was already in the North. And btw I recommend you to buy Watch Dogs. That will probably fit perfectly to you.

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There's loads of things I'd like to see them do.

 

 

Vice City and Southern Florida including the Keys.  Perhaps even some of the Caribbean Islands.

 

 

I've long wanted them to do San Fierro set in the '70s.  A recreation of the whole bay area including perhaps Northern California.

 

 

But a new location I would very much love to see them do is Chicago and the Lake Michigan area perhaps including a version of Detroit too.

 

 

Totally agreed! icon14.gif

Nooo, not a northern located city again. NY was already in the North. And btw I recommend you to buy Watch Dogs. That will probably fit perfectly to you.

north of what? north of north america?

 

 

 

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I love California and I'm super pumped for 5. After this re-imagined Southern California, maybe the next one can be a re-imagined Northern California. Cities like San Fran, Oakland or even Sacramento. It's a beautiful area, include the Redwood forest and MT. Shasta. Also have it set in the late 1960s. That'd be far out!

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Capital City (Washington, D.C.) is a no brainer. Its globally recognizable architecture makes it as iconic as any of the other GTA cities and its unique gathering of America's political elite makes it ripe for parody. I mean, we've already worked for the government in SA, IV, and now V, so why not base a whole game around this concept? You could start out hustling in the rougher areas of D.C., then eventually work for some punk congressmen, then senators, then by the end you're doing politically motivated hits for the White House.

 

Besides the addition of D.C., though, I think R* will keep reusing the same cities, making them bigger and better each time.

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Capital City (Washington, D.C.) is a no brainer. Its globally recognizable architecture makes it as iconic as any of the other GTA cities and its unique gathering of America's political elite makes it ripe for parody. I mean, we've already worked for the government in SA, IV, and now V, so why not base a whole game around this concept? You could start out hustling in the rougher areas of D.C., then eventually work for some punk congressmen, then senators, then by the end you're doing politically motivated hits for the White House.

 

Besides the addition of D.C., though, I think R* will keep reusing the same cities, making them bigger and better each time.

never thought of d.c.

 

but it would be ideal, serious poverty and crime on one side and the political elite on the other, plus iconic architecture...

 

i really think you may be onto something here...

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They just need to find a city with interesting historical, maybe pop-cultural references/background  to "copy", so to speak.

This is the real issue, all 5 cities R* have used so far have something unique or special about them. LC/NYC is the huge metropolis with block after block of skyscrapers, VC/Miami is the beautiful sea-side city with the dark and gritty crime underworld made possible by the smuggling routes, Venturas/Vegas has the casinos and associated criminality as well as the deserts and canyons surrounding it, Fierro/Francisco has the hippy theme as well as the bay and hills which give rise to epic police chases and LS/LA has the gangs and the movie stars along with all the trappings of both.

 

In order to expand out of these 5 R* will need to base it on a city which has something different about it. Keeping it in the USA limits these options quite severely. Chicago has been suggested the most but it's very similar to New York in many ways that it would struggle to be totally unique, and the same goes for the large majority of US cities, they would be just another city with a slightly different feel due to being in a different state.

 

Carcer city is based heavily on Rust Belt cities including Detroit, and while this would be a new setting for GTA, I feel that being set in a city full of poverty wouldn't really work, as there wouldn't be that contrast between the rich and the poor which has been a feature of GTA, ad above all it might still feel just like the Alderney area of IV but bigger.

 

New Orleans would probably be the most logical choice for a new city as it has a very unique feel to it, has plenty of wealth but also plenty of poverty so you get a big selection of areas. Alongside the actual city you have the swamps and the bayous and the old plantation mansions which would give a rural area a vast scope for varied missions. The french and Carribean influences, as well as being in the deep south would help to give a GTA version of the city a unique and varied cast and as such a unique and varied storyline!

 

EDIT: just seen the post above making a case for DC! As said that would be another really good setting thanks to the points that have been raised!

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Capital City (Washington, D.C.) is a no brainer.  Its globally recognizable architecture makes it as iconic as any of the other GTA cities and its unique gathering of America's political elite makes it ripe for parody.  I mean, we've already worked for the government in SA, IV, and now V, so why not base a whole game around this concept?  You could start out hustling in the rougher areas of D.C., then eventually work for some punk congressmen, then senators, then by the end you're doing politically motivated hits for the White House.

 

Besides the addition of D.C., though, I think R* will keep reusing the same cities, making them bigger and better each time.

never thought of d.c.

 

but it would be ideal, serious poverty and crime on one side and the political elite on the other, plus iconic architecture...

 

i really think you may be onto something here...

I personally would be loathe to see a GTA game revolve primarily around Government Sanctioned crime. I like the sensation of being outside of the law and part of a vast, criminal economy.

 

Doing a government agencies dirty work for a few missions is ok but if the whole story arc were to wind up with the protagonist carrying out political assassinations I'd be dissapointed.

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I personally would be loathe to see a GTA game revolve primarily around Government Sanctioned crime. I like the sensation of being outside of the law and part of a vast, criminal economy.

 

Doing a government agencies dirty work for a few missions is ok but if the whole story arc were to wind up with the protagonist carrying out political assassinations I'd be dissapointed.

I see what you're saying, but just because a government official pays you to do his dirty work (say, roughing up some pesky lobbyists) doesn't make it sanctioned or legal or any less a crime. You'd still be an independent contractor, like Niko, and its not like the D.C. metro police are going to be tipped off every time you'd pull a hit. Everything would be off the books.

 

Politicians are some of the biggest and most powerful criminals in this country... I think D.C.'s "criminal economy" would be very fitting. Of course, an East Coast game that includes Liberty, Vice, and Capitol City (D.C.) would be even better. That way, no one gets burned out working for the assholes on Capitol Hill.

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I think after GTA V they'll begin working on GTA VI and they'll employ more people so they can make that every city GTA ( GTA VI ) , the reason for more employes is that if they want to renew the cities they'll have to have more modelers so ya they'll renew Vice City ,and the rest of San Andreas ,LC had been made and even Los Santos so they don't need to renew it ,and in GTA VII they'll create a new huge city

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I personally would be loathe to see a GTA game revolve primarily around Government Sanctioned crime. I like the sensation of being outside of the law and part of a vast, criminal economy.

 

Doing a government agencies dirty work for a few missions is ok but if the whole story arc were to wind up with the protagonist carrying out political assassinations I'd be dissapointed.

I'd prefer to kill corrupt politicians more than working for them, there are too many in my country that steal and steal with impunity; that sickens me...

 

Anyway, I really liked the UL Paper's idea in GTA IV, some kind of mysterious and unofficial government agency. Maybe in a future GTA we will place on the role of a corrupt cop sigh.gif

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I personally would be loathe to see a GTA game revolve primarily around Government Sanctioned crime. I like the sensation of being outside of the law and part of a vast, criminal economy.

 

Doing a government agencies dirty work for a few missions is ok but if the whole story arc were to wind up with the protagonist carrying out political assassinations I'd be dissapointed.

i agree that i would not want to see a d.c. game centred around politics, but d.c. has some of the worst slums in the US and often times only blocks from much more affluent neighbourhoods.

but i would love to see a d.c. game that incorporated both, reflecting the crimes of greed on the hill with the crimes of neccessity in the slums...

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There's loads of things I'd like to see them do.
  • Vice City and Southern Florida including the Keys.  Perhaps even some of the Caribbean Islands.

     

  • I've long wanted them to do San Fierro set in the '70s.  A recreation of the whole bay area including perhaps Northern California.

     

  • But a new location I would very much love to see them do is Chicago and the Lake Michigan area perhaps including a version of Detroit too.

     

Totally agreed! icon14.gif

Nooo, not a northern located city again. NY was already in the North. And btw I recommend you to buy Watch Dogs. That will probably fit perfectly to you.

Ah. But think about this. We had GTA:III's Liberty City which was a composite of various North East cities. It wasn't bad. But Rockstar's approach has since changed. Now instead of generic cities, they base their GTA cities on actual real life cities which gives their locations focus, character and a better atmosphere. It makes it much easier for the audience to identify with the locations in question.

 

Yes, they've done New York as Liberty City in GTA:IV. Now if they'd gone and done Chicago straight from having done New York, I'd agree with you. But because they've done at least one other iconic and completely different city in between (Los Angeles in V), I reckon they could now safely go and give Chicago their hi-def GTA treatment. They could show us what gives the Windy City it's unique and distinctive character.

 

Think of the possibilities.

 

For instance, with a city in the North there is the opportunity to have seasons and highly variable seasonal weather, which could mean, for the first time, snow! Proper dynamic snow perhaps made feasible by next gen power.

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And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills.

Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about.

 

Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida.

Hawaii would be a likely place, since I am sure the Rockstar design team likes to spend 6 months or more away from dreary Edinburgh in a beautiful vacation locale doing "research."

 

I would be OK with a Vice City remake, if it had a huge-ass countryside going beyond just the Everglades to a condensed American South/Dixie (lots of lakes, hills, forests) and going up into the Appalachian mountains.

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We keep hearing about Carsson City (or sumtin like dat) on radio, but we've never been there. Anyone have any idea on which real city Carson City is based? It's like the Maibatsu car: they always advertise a Maibatsu, but we've never seen one.

 

But they did break away from Liberty City, San Andreas and Vice City before with gta London...

 

Wait... What 5 cities are you referring to? Liberty City, Vice City, San Andreas with Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturas??? Them?

London sucked the third person view is the best the sky view was gay

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I'm no expert on US cities, but from what I know about them, Chicago/Detroit and D.C. seem like good settings for GTAs.

 

If not those, then I'd like to see a HD remake of San Fierro.

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