shattered-minds Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It doesn't take a genius to see that Rockstar are in a trend with Grand Theft Auto of redesigning the original cities from the first game. This is also what us fans have become used to. No matter which one of the cities they choose to do next, we instantly have an idea of to expect. There's a certain sense of familiarity and comfort for it. Now we all know that at some point the game needs to move away from these 5 cities. But where, how and when? With these cities becoming synonymous with GTA would moving to a new city make it lose that GTA feeling and charm? Especially a city that no one has ever heard of before. The problem I think Rockstar could face is the fact that the current cities they use are re-imaginings of iconic cities, where else can they mimic that just by looking at it, you'd know where you are? Without that element of recreation any new city they make could end up being Generic City #4856. I think a way Rockstar can almost soften the blow of moving somewhere new would be have numerous mentions of new cities throughout GTAV and future games leading up to the inevitable departure of the cities we know. Thst way we will have a sense of curiosity wondering where that city is and what it looks like. With enough intriguing mentions we'll end up wanting to go there. So to open it up for discussion; Do you think we'll ever move away from the 5 Cities we know and love? If we did, would it lose that GTA feel and charm for you? Where would they re-imagine, and how they they introduce it? Slowly like my idea or just anounce it with the first trailer of that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Next GTA will be out in 2020. It'll play during the 20's & 30's. Maybe in Chicago with all that booze prohibition and Al Capone stuff. I don't have any doubt in R* being able to bring ANY place to life btw. They just need to find a city with interesting historical, maybe pop-cultural references/background to "copy", so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travís. Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I reckon maybe they could do a city in a different country, maybe japan or something. GTA 6 Tokyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werebot Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 We keep hearing about Carsson City (or sumtin like dat) on radio, but we've never been there. Anyone have any idea on which real city Carson City is based? It's like the Maibatsu car: they always advertise a Maibatsu, but we've never seen one. But they did break away from Liberty City, San Andreas and Vice City before with gta London... Wait... What 5 cities are you referring to? Liberty City, Vice City, San Andreas with Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturas??? Them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shattered-minds Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Those are the ones. Well, Carcer City is from Manhunt. I did initially mention that but it got deleted. I guess you could count GTA London, even though it was an expansion pack. I guess they could redo Anywhere City (worst name ever). I don't think they'd ever go outside of America again, as the whole idea is to satirise American culture. I like how they mention Carcer City and the Zaibatsu on the radio as it creates the illusion of a world bigger than the city you're in. But what I'm asking is will they ever move away from reusing the cities they've created as they are synonymous with GTA and where would they go next?. If they do would it lose that GTA feel and how they they announce it? Introduce it with mentions on the radio a la Carcer City or just announce it with the game? Edited March 22, 2013 by shattered-minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakeney Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 We keep hearing about Carsson City (or sumtin like dat) on radio, but we've never been there. Anyone have any idea on which real city Carson City is based? It's like the Maibatsu car: they always advertise a Maibatsu, but we've never seen one. But they did break away from Liberty City, San Andreas and Vice City before with gta London... Wait... What 5 cities are you referring to? Liberty City, Vice City, San Andreas with Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturas??? Them? Carcer City is where Manhunt was based, and as you say has been mentioned in most GTA's since III, I think it's based on Chicago/Detroit but I might be wrong. This is where I think I would like them will go once they have re-imagined Vice City (IF they do) It would make a great story and link to Manhunt if it was set in the late 90s and at the end of the game, the city goes to sh*t and some crazy dude comes in to turn most the city into a Tv studio for an exciting new "reality TV" show that no-one knows much about, but everyone is signing up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
œaœa Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Carcer City being a Chicago/Detroit hybrid would be a great setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakeney Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Carcer City being a Chicago/Detroit hybrid would be a great setting. I agree, especially if it was set in the 90s, that's "oldskool" nowadays (makes me feel old as f*ck, but true) and as far as I know both places were "colourful" in the sense they would make great GTA cities. Even if it was set now it would be quite good, Detroit as far as I know has become a bit of a jungle, which would make a great contrast and atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusRIP Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) I honestly don't know why they're rehasing old cities because they "didn't feel they did it justice the first time". When PS5 comes around, hell, PS6 even... GTA5 is going to look like a sh*t fest in comparison. Does that mean they'll feel the need to recreate it again? It's a never ending cycle because in hindsight, their games are always going to one day feel very dated. I would love to see them do a scaled down Europe. Have the UK which could just be London + surrounding countryside, then below the water, Paris + countryside to the south, Germany to the east, etc... a nice caricature style Europe would be awesome. Nothing too oversized and grandiose. It'd be like a bigger San Andreas I guess Edited March 22, 2013 by LotusRIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reform Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I don't have much to say other than I totally agree with the OP. Indications of, and references to other places and cities outside of the GTA universe that we already know of not only serves to create the feeling of a bigger more immersive world, but, as you say, leave multiple options for future destinations that people will actually be interested and excited to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travís. Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 As I re-read this, It came to me that the main reason R* Hasn't made new cities is that they hope to eventually to make a GTA that bring all the cities together into one game, and adding new cities would destroy that hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 All I want is a modern-day, huge version of Vice City and South Florida made with the latest console tech. I'd happy with that for a long time. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reform Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner71 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I don't care where, I just want to go back to the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Next GTA will be out in 2020. It'll play during the 20's & 30's. Maybe in Chicago with all that booze prohibition and Al Capone stuff. I don't have any doubt in R* being able to bring ANY place to life btw. They just need to find a city with interesting historical, maybe pop-cultural references/background to "copy", so to speak. That'll most likely be a new series like L.A. Noire or RDR dude,i don't think GTA Will go back anymore... and for GTA 6 Tokyo maybe its possible...any place is possible as long as its super popular and is set in a near time experience... and i do miss the 80s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicPunk Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Next GTA will be out in 2020. It'll play during the 20's & 30's. Maybe in Chicago with all that booze prohibition and Al Capone stuff. I don't have any doubt in R* being able to bring ANY place to life btw. They just need to find a city with interesting historical, maybe pop-cultural references/background to "copy", so to speak. It's already been decided. The next GTA will be in Seattle during the early 90's grunge movement. Work has already been started on it--the map. R* will definitely revisit Vice City, but there will be new places right along with it. GTA will NEVER be set outside of the United States. Edited March 22, 2013 by AtomicPunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandthefthoughto Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 the major theme running nearly all of the gta's is the housers commentary of american culture, so i think it's unlikely we'll see a full-blown gta set outside of the US anytime soon. but there are only so many cities in the states that have the iconic status of LA, New York, Miami, Las Vegas etc... (IMO detroit/chicago do not have the same profile internationally, or the same opportunities for parody) so realistically i anticipate a return to a city we have seen before for gtavi as i feel they are running out of iconic US cities to parody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 and for GTA 6 Tokyo maybe its possible...any place is possible as long as its super popular and is set in a near time experience... This is what I just don't get. Why is it that some people on here seem to that Tokyo is such a great place for a GTA location ? Tokyo is one of the safest cities in the world, it has a much lower crime rate compared to most American cities, and probably even lower than many major European cities too. Yes, Tokyo is the home of Japanese organized crime, the Yakuza - but the Yakuza are not known for being very violent or engaging in gang warfare. Most of the Yakuza's criminal activities are 'victimless crimes' like illegal gambling, fraud, money laundering and counterfeit, they generally pose no physical danger the members of the everyday public. There are other crime groups in Tokyo, but as far as the underworld scene there goes, it is not filled with any kind of action-packed drama like violent gang/turf wars or visibly intense organized crime activity. In my view Tokyo does not really offer itself as a great backdrop for a GTA location, when you consider the series contains themes on high levels of crime, gangs and violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocoFrosty Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I think you just answered the question of "Why is GTA V only Los Santos?" I wouldn't be surprised if R* is thinking ahead and saving SF and LV as potential, future remake locations. In terms of new GTA cities, Chicago and Detroit are too flat. And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills. Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about. Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocoFrosty Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills. Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about. Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida. I apologize for sharing my opinion..? Green = Your polite disclaimer. Red = You being rude. Edited March 22, 2013 by ChocoFrosty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandthefthoughto Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills. Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about. Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida. not being rude but it's not really about your personal tastes either dipsh*t (oh hang on that was rude wasn't it?) chocofrosty is just expressing his opinion (that's kinda how forums work). and there's plenty of crime in hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinti21 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills. Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about. Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida. I apologize for sharing my opinion..? Green = Your polite disclaimer. Red = You being rude. lol, you pointed it out very well. Cookie 4 u -> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStarr31 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 And while I know I would love a re-imagined Vice City, I just can't go back to an entirely flat GTA world again. Maybe they could do an island city like Honolulu. Hawaii has plenty of hills. Not being rude, it's not really about your personal tastes, we really couldn't give f**k about how you don't like a flat GTA world. Many people want a modern-day Vice City done in a major way, and it's not hard to see the appeal. The lack of hills can easily be offset by many miles of rivers, canals, lakes, forests, swamps, plains, coastlines, islands, shallow seas, coral reefs, etc - they would be so much to do and explore, that hills would be quickly forgotten about. Plus, Honolulu/Hawaii would be quite boring, there is not a great deal of crime or gangs there like there is in Miami/South Florida. I apologize for sharing my opinion..? Or maybe since it really isn't Miami they could just ADD hills, maybe not as large as LC's or LS's, but hills none the less. This would accommodate both sides of the argument. This accompanied by the stark contrasts of pristine tropical atmospheres, dark boggy swamps and a big city criminal underworld that is actually an international crime ring; Miami is beyond long over due. (im a MIA resident by the way) Think about it guys; Infernus down Washington(South) Beach one minute, Airboats through the everglades the next (GATORS FTW!?), Jet skis thru the many islands off the coast right after. Miami has tons of residential islands inside it's inter-coastal water and though a bit far away the Keys could be included (why not)... Loads of potential, just add hills i guess... @ChocoFrosty: No you do not... he did come off as hostile for no reason @Official General: Relax dude... it's cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocoFrosty Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 lol, you pointed it out very well.Cookie 4 u -> Thanks! I believe that is my first cookie. And to expand on my random Hawaii thought; the tropical island theme is a little worn out these days, but I'm sure R* could do something new/amazing with it on the next generation of consoles (and avoid falling victim to the inevitable Just Cause 2 comparisons). Also, Honolulu is part of the U.S., so I figured that would make sense given that R* has talked about GTA making most sense in the U.S., not that I wouldn't also love to play in a foreign city. Go back to Niko's home town, perhaps? @grandthefthoughto I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 @ Chocofrosty And I was simply expressing my opinion just like you did. I said this is not really about your personal tastes or anyone else, when it comes to Rockstar making a GTA world. I don't believe Rockstar made Vice City while thinking, "I don't the fans would like a flat world". Thankfully they don't think stupidly like that, they made VC and it went on to sell millions and become one of greatest games ever made. Nothing wrong with sharing your opinion. I just thought you were talking bullsh*t and I shared with everyone else. Niko's hometown ? Stop smoking that crack lol. GTA Serbia @ grandthefthoughto Calling someone 'dipsh*t' or an offensive name is obviously rude. I did not call Chocofrost any kind of offensive name. I said I don't give a f**k about his personal tastes, that is not calling him names now is it ? Nice try, but what I said was clearly not quite the same thing. And of course there is plenty of crime in Hawaii, I never said there was not. Can you read properly ? I said Honolulu/Hawaii has not much crime compared to Miami/South Florida. Hawaii in general is not well known for having high crime rates or a thriving organized crime or gang scene like other parts of the USA. Does not mean it don't exist, it just means it's not well known for it, thus making it unsuitable for a GTA location in my eyes and other right-thinking people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinti21 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yeah, carribean setting would also be awesome. Something with palm trees, jungles and bit...BEAches and I'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAgamersquirrel Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 R* Still can do a HD Vice city, Los Venturas, and San Fierro before even thinking about a new city if they wanted to and if its seperated like IV and V, it could be 2028 before they would have to make that decision. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinti21 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 R* Still can do a HD Vice city, Los Venturas, and San Fierro before even thinking about a new city if they wanted to and if its seperated like IV and V, it could be 2028 before they would have to make that decision. lol Do you want to make people cry?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStarr31 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 OT: R* has actually been expanding it's universe more so this gen, just not in a such direct manner... We now have: Alderney State The Carraways Capita(o?)l City Northern San Andreas (San Andreas appearently has more room in between cities now?) And with V dropping who knows what new cities/references might be thrown in, let alone how many. This also leaves LV and SF as stand alones with the potential of having new boundaries and jurisdictions.... R* is just setting up for a world tour game (all five cities in one game) then use all the newly referenced cities for the next chapter *edit why doesnt it put spoiler on the smilies...#fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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