InfernoV Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Much like michael is the brains, thinks his plans over more then any other previous protagonist. Trevor is muscle, takes action before thinking! Which of these two(brainsV.muscle) makes for a more sucessful charecter. Which would be more effective in a huge crime? Who would be more effective in a zombie takeover? I think brains. Michaels living rich, nice cars, big house. Trevors uses his shirt as toilet paper. Nuff sed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Brains is definitely the way to go when it comes to crime, although Michael is going to have some flaws like his big ego, his short temper, and his willingness to make moral compromises. So to me, Michael seems like a very smart guy, but he has too much to prove. He is apparently the leader of the crew, at least in his own mind. I honestly don't see Trevor willing to follow his orders. Seems like Michael is pretty manipulative too, based on his narration in the first trailer. I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). So who is the bigger bad guy: The manipulative sociopath, or the honest psychopath? This may be a question Franklin will ask himself at some point. Edited March 20, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfernoV Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Brains is definitely the way to go when it comes to crime, although Michael is going to have some flaws like his big ego, his short temper, and his willingness to make moral compromises. So to me, Michael seems like a very smart guy, but he has too much to prove. He is apparently the leader of the crew, at least inhis own mind. I honestly don't see Trevor willing to follow his orders. Seems like Michael is pretty manipulative too, based on his narration in the first trailer. So who is the bigger bad guy: The manipulative sociopath, or the honest psychopath. This may be a question Franklin will ask himself at some point. LOL your answers are epic! Rockstar said michael has a short temper, with trevor constantly teasing could you see a fight break out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfernoV Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). WOW that is clevver! I think that is true! Ahaha i love michaels charecter! Complete opposite of trevor but i like him aswell but definatly prefer michael Who says the protagonist has always gotta be a badass that never takes the easy way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Brains is definitely the way to go when it comes to crime, although Michael is going to have some flaws like his big ego, his short temper, and his willingness to make moral compromises. So to me, Michael seems like a very smart guy, but he has too much to prove. He is apparently the leader of the crew, at least inhis own mind. I honestly don't see Trevor willing to follow his orders. Seems like Michael is pretty manipulative too, based on his narration in the first trailer. So who is the bigger bad guy: The manipulative sociopath, or the honest psychopath. This may be a question Franklin will ask himself at some point. LOL your answers are epic! Rockstar said michael has a short temper, with trevor constantly teasing could you see a fight break out? The story in V is what excites me the most. And to answer your question, it really depends on their history. The way I see it, Michael either snitched on Trevor (not likely, because Trevor would kill him) or he snitched on his old crew to get into WP... but he spared Trevor because he's his best friend. Trevor probably disagrees with Michael's decision, and doesn't trust him as much as he did before. Trevor could also try & pull Franklin away from Michael (& their father-son relationship) and try to get him to not believe Michael's lies. I think a possible fight between them would be because of Franklin. I do think their fights will be calm at first, but as the story goes on, things could get gritty. Especially if Trevor tells Franklin the truth about Michael. Honestly, I see Michael becoming the game's antagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red XIII Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) I think if you have the opportunity then both brains and muscle working together would be the most effective, but if I had to pick one then I say brains. every situation can be resolved by thinking. If your in a fire fight, think smart, think tactically and use your surroundings to your advantage, Edited March 20, 2013 by Red XIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Brains is definitely the way to go when it comes to crime, although Michael is going to have some flaws like his big ego, his short temper, and his willingness to make moral compromises. So to me, Michael seems like a very smart guy, but he has too much to prove. He is apparently the leader of the crew, at least in his own mind. I honestly don't see Trevor willing to follow his orders. Seems like Michael is pretty manipulative too, based on his narration in the first trailer. I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). So who is the bigger bad guy: The manipulative sociopath, or the honest psychopath? This may be a question Franklin will ask himself at some point. I love how Franklin doesn't even come into it haha! Poor bloke, no one seems to like him, even the people who really wanted a ghetto.gangsta protag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Brains is definitely the way to go when it comes to crime, although Michael is going to have some flaws like his big ego, his short temper, and his willingness to make moral compromises. So to me, Michael seems like a very smart guy, but he has too much to prove. He is apparently the leader of the crew, at least in his own mind. I honestly don't see Trevor willing to follow his orders. Seems like Michael is pretty manipulative too, based on his narration in the first trailer. I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). So who is the bigger bad guy: The manipulative sociopath, or the honest psychopath? This may be a question Franklin will ask himself at some point. I love how Franklin doesn't even come into it haha! Poor bloke, no one seems to like him, even the people who really wanted a ghetto.gangsta protag. Actually, I really believe Franklin will be the glue of the relationship between them.. Michael sees him as a son, and he wants to teach him things about crime. So I'm very curious to see how that goes. Trevor probably knows Michael is a snitch, so he probably doesn't trust him... and he doesn't want Franklin to be manipulated by him. But yeah, I really do think Franklin will be a balance of the other two. Also, he's the new fish... so it's going to be great seeing the veterans try to teach him a thing or two. I just hope Franklin's ambition doesn't get mixed with greed... because that's like mixing fire with gas. We all know what happened to Big Smoke when he became ambitious & greedy... Edited March 20, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlappyPwnsAss Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Brains is definitely the way to go when it comes to crime, although Michael is going to have some flaws like his big ego, his short temper, and his willingness to make moral compromises. So to me, Michael seems like a very smart guy, but he has too much to prove. He is apparently the leader of the crew, at least in his own mind. I honestly don't see Trevor willing to follow his orders. Seems like Michael is pretty manipulative too, based on his narration in the first trailer. I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). So who is the bigger bad guy: The manipulative sociopath, or the honest psychopath? This may be a question Franklin will ask himself at some point. Are you sure you havent played the game yet? What you just said sounded really believable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evoluon--720 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 the brain is a muscle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). WOW that is clevver! I think that is true! Ahaha i love michaels charecter! Complete opposite of trevor but i like him aswell but definatly prefer michael Who says the protagonist has always gotta be a badass that never takes the easy way out! Gta king.. This is why i fux with you homie. Now i think he was def talkin to franklin in that trailer. Also i think franklin has a fork in the road to choose what path he wants to go down. Michael or trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Yeah, I'm very observant to certain things. Especially things I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben73 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I live here in LA, so I think brains is the way to go for a criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR7 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I have a feeling he is talking to Franklin in that trailer, and he is straight up lying to him about why he moved there (which we now know is because he is in witness protection). WOW that is clevver! I think that is true! Ahaha i love michaels charecter! Complete opposite of trevor but i like him aswell but definatly prefer michael Who says the protagonist has always gotta be a badass that never takes the easy way out! Yeah I never thought he could be talking to Franklin but that would make sense. The other person I thought he could be talking to is his therapist Since he doesn't outright tell us what he did before he retired leaving thing as ambiguous as possible so he doesn't flat out tell him he was a bank robber but just enough to give the therapist something to work with. The Trailer 2 narration is definitely pointed in Franklin's direction possibly during one of their first conversations after Franklin asks for some advice on how to become successful Like Mike did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ^ It's possible it could be the therapist too. What we do know is Michael is lying to someone. The question he is being asked is most likely "Why did you move here?" Then he responds "Why did I move here?" Then he pauses, as if he is creating the lie "I guess it was the weather." lol, nope... you are in WP! Franklin asking Michael why he moved there would make sense to me, because I'm sure he is wondering how an aged bank robber gets to live the high life in Rockford Hills. Hell, if I was Franklin, I'd be wondering too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR7 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) ^ It's possible it could be the therapist too. What we do know is Michael is lying to someone. The question he is being asked is most likely "Why did you move here?" Then he responds "Why did I move here?" Then he pauses, as if he is creating the lie "I guess it was the weather." lol, nope... you are in WP! Franklin asking Michael why he moved there would make sense to me, because I'm sure he is wondering how an aged bank robber gets to live the high life in Rockford Hills. Hell, if I was Franklin, I'd be wondering too. I definitely understand where your coming from I would expect Franklin to ask why he moved to Los Santos and why he wants to come out of retirement when he seems to be living the Dream. But the fact that he really goes into depth with his answer talking about his kids and everything makes me think he's chilling on a therapists chair trying t get the best advice possible without flat out telling him what sort of bad stuff he does. In fact I think the therapist will play a big role in some of the choices Michael makes through out the story. I can picture him spewing some bullsh*t like "Work has been very stressful lately they want me to move up to a higher post but i'm not sure I have it in me, do I take the big promotion or should I walk away from this one?" Translation:"Robbing banks is stressful, should I pull off this big heist or is it too much for me to handle?" Edited March 21, 2013 by Gregers08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) ^ Agreed. There's a rule with therapists that you can't talk to them about criminal activities, or they have to call the police. So it would make sense if he created the lie for that reason. Going back to Franklin, maybe Michael is trying to paint himself as this successful criminal who made it out on top. But yeah, I think it has to be either the therapist or Franklin. Would be great if Michael finally fills the void in his life (because he returns to crime) then he ambiguously tells his therapist that he has reached a breakthrough. Michael's last line "Well, you know how it is..." That's what I keep wondering about. Is he upset with the way his kids turned out? Is he talking about the economy? Always wondered about that line. Edited March 21, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR7 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ^ Agreed. There's a rule with therapists that you can't talk to them about criminal activities, or they have to call the police. So it would make sense if he created the lie for that reason. Going back to Franklin, maybe Michael is trying to paint himself as this successful criminal who made it out on top. But yeah, I think it has to be either the therapist or Franklin. Would be great if Michael finally fills the void in his life (because he returns to crime) then he ambiguously tells his therapist that he has reached a breakthrough. Michael's last line "Well, you know how it is..." That's what I keep wondering about. Is he upset with the way his kids turned out? Is he talking about the economy? Always wondered about that line. I think the last line is just about life in general all the things he mentioned before including the kids, putting his feet up, being a good guy, even the "magic" of LS none of that worked out the way he wanted in the end. But at the same time he doesn't sound very upset about it almost like he legitimately tried to live a civilian life but in the back of his head was waiting for things to fall apart so he had an excuse to get back in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ^ That sounds very plausible. I'm sure Michael loves his family, but he has basically turned into a domesticated wild animal. He has become bored of life, & he really feels like he is useless. His wife spends all his money, & he doesn't understand his kids. Returning to crime is, tragically, the best thing for him. You can't keep a wild animal caged forever. I can't wait to see how he balances "work" and family life. Should be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think the wild-card is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The only reason i doubt its the shrink is because mike says "that line of work" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothGetaway Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ^ Agreed. There's a rule with therapists that you can't talk to them about criminal activities, or they have to call the police. So it would make sense if he created the lie for that reason. Going back to Franklin, maybe Michael is trying to paint himself as this successful criminal who made it out on top. But yeah, I think it has to be either the therapist or Franklin. Would be great if Michael finally fills the void in his life (because he returns to crime) then he ambiguously tells his therapist that he has reached a breakthrough. Michael's last line "Well, you know how it is..." That's what I keep wondering about. Is he upset with the way his kids turned out? Is he talking about the economy? Always wondered about that line. I think the last line is just about life in general all the things he mentioned before including the kids, putting his feet up, being a good guy, even the "magic" of LS none of that worked out the way he wanted in the end. But at the same time he doesn't sound very upset about it almost like he legitimately tried to live a civilian life but in the back of his head was waiting for things to fall apart so he had an excuse to get back in the game. Super interesting ideas, both of you! Since its being discussed, I always felt like that narration took place somewhere towards the end of the story. Maybe Michael is in a bad spot, that 'one last job' type of situation where sh*t has hit the fan. Especially with the line '...you know how it is'. He almost sounds resigned at that point, and a little wistful. More on topic, I'll say brains because anyone can beat someone up, or shoot someone. It takes smarts to stay alive after. As far as Trevor goes, he's probably pretty smart too but just way less subtle and sneaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenrock Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 so is Trevor considered the least intelligent out of the trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfernoV Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 so is Trevor considered the least intelligent out of the trio No franklin is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Brains. Look at Game of Thrones, Tyrion is (almost) always able to talk himself out of trouble despite not being physically impressive thanks to being clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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