Stratocastor15 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) Looking into the protagonists of GTA V, I saw an interview with Dan Houser where he describes Michael. At one point, he mentions they had thought of making Michael the hero from GTA III (Claude Speed), but had decided against it. I thought, however this may be a hint. This, as I said, just a theory, and I know it is completely wrong. The only character I could see other than Claude that could return from GTA III would be Toni Cipriani. Toni was voiced by Michael Madsen in GTA III (This will be important later). In Liberty City Stories, Toni was probably mid 20's, and he was slightly modeled after Michael Madsen. In GTA III, he would be 30ish. So in GTA V, he would be 40ish, the age of Michael. In my opinion, Michael in GTA V bears close resemblance to Michael Madsen. That's my theory, that it may be based on Toni Cipriani. Edited March 20, 2013 by Stratocastor15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 that it may be Toni Cipriani. How many times do we all have to tell eachother, THE UNIVERSES ARE SEPERATE!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 GTA III ERA = NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scottish Guy Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Great day for memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratocastor15 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 I understand the universes are separate, but it was just a theory. Like I said, it's completely wrong, and that's why it's a THEORY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jvmes Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 There's a definite resemblance to Michael Madsen and I have the feeling that Michael's character is going to be partially inspired by Claude and by Toni. It's almost a case of taking their old ideas and reworking them and improving them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBellic1993 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I understand the universes are separate, but it was just a theory. Like I said, it's completely wrong, and that's why it's a THEORY. Well, what's the point of being a theory if it's never going to happen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratocastor15 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 There's a definite resemblance to Michael Madsen and I have the feeling that Michael's character is going to be partially inspired by Claude and by Toni. It's almost a case of taking their old ideas and reworking them and improving them. Thank you, someone who isn't bashing me haha. Dan Houser stated that the character was originally based on Claude, so I figure GTA V may have SOME reference to the 3rd and 4th era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travís. Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Looking into the protagonists of GTA V, I saw an interview with Dan Houser where he describes Michael. At one point, he mentions they had thought of making Michael the hero from GTA III (Claude Speed), but had decided against it. I thought, however this may be a hint. This, as I said, just a theory, and I know it is completely wrong. The only character I could see other than Claude that could return from GTA III would be Toni Cipriani. Toni was voiced by Michael Madsen in GTA III (This will be important later). In Liberty City Stories, Toni was probably mid 20's, and he was slightly modeled after Michael Madsen. In GTA III, he would be 30ish. So in GTA V, he would be 40ish, the age of Michael. In my opinion, Michael in GTA V bears close resemblance to Michael Madsen. That's my theory, that it may be Toni Cipriani. it's not likely, But I don't think everyone had to shut him down to that extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlappyPwnsAss Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 i dont see why people are hating... there have been alot of stupid topics on here, and no one complains about those. Anyways, i do think that R* made Michael thinking about Toni... Its like an older version of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petsevsky Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That's my theory, that it may be Toni Cipriani. I can't believe I read that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben73 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetops Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Can you please give a link of the interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratocastor15 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 http://gta.wikia.com/Michael_(GTA_V) Under "Development Of This Character" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Bill Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Looking into the protagonists of GTA V, I saw an interview with Dan Houser where he describes Michael. At one point, he mentions they had thought of making Michael the hero from GTA III (Claude Speed), but had decided against it. Where did you see that? Never mind, just seen the post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratocastor15 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 I know that the 3rd and 4th eras are separate, but he mentions the previous protagonists quite a bit in his interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 http://gta.wikia.com/Michael_(GTA_V) Under "Development Of This Character" I see they updated the wiki for Michael. Lots of interesting things to read! I still especially like this: Michael is known to have a good and bad side. His good side is that he is thoughtful and calculated and likely to keep his motives hidden. But, his bad side are his flaws, and his flaws are certainly his large ego, an inability to control his temper, and his willingness to make large moral compromises. He wants to compartmentalize and be a good guy some of the time. As stated above he has a horrible family that he wants to leave but can't for specific reasons and has access to all the pleasures in the world but is bored. Dan Houser has also stated that despite seeming to be the good guy (at least compared to Trevor), he might end up being worse than Trevor in the end. Michael is the most interesting GTA protagonist in the entire series to me. I can't wait to find out what becomes of him during the events of V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratocastor15 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 http://gta.wikia.com/Michael_(GTA_V) Under "Development Of This Character" I see they updated the wiki for Michael. Lots of interesting things to read! I still especially like this: Michael is known to have a good and bad side. His good side is that he is thoughtful and calculated and likely to keep his motives hidden. But, his bad side are his flaws, and his flaws are certainly his large ego, an inability to control his temper, and his willingness to make large moral compromises. He wants to compartmentalize and be a good guy some of the time. As stated above he has a horrible family that he wants to leave but can't for specific reasons and has access to all the pleasures in the world but is bored. Dan Houser has also stated that despite seeming to be the good guy (at least compared to Trevor), he might end up being worse than Trevor in the end. Michael is the most interesting GTA protagonist in the entire series to me. I can't wait to find out what becomes of him during the events of V. This storyline is sure to be the most interesting yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) http://gta.wikia.com/Michael_(GTA_V) Under "Development Of This Character" I see they updated the wiki for Michael. Lots of interesting things to read! I still especially like this: Michael is known to have a good and bad side. His good side is that he is thoughtful and calculated and likely to keep his motives hidden. But, his bad side are his flaws, and his flaws are certainly his large ego, an inability to control his temper, and his willingness to make large moral compromises. He wants to compartmentalize and be a good guy some of the time. As stated above he has a horrible family that he wants to leave but can't for specific reasons and has access to all the pleasures in the world but is bored. Dan Houser has also stated that despite seeming to be the good guy (at least compared to Trevor), he might end up being worse than Trevor in the end. Michael is the most interesting GTA protagonist in the entire series to me. I can't wait to find out what becomes of him during the events of V. This storyline is sure to be the most interesting yet! Agreed. I'm most curious to see how his family is going to work into the story. Michael is the first protagonist ever to be a family man. So it's def. going to be interesting. Here's something else I like from his wiki: "He's the person who is trying to ignore some rather large mistakes that they have made. The person who's trying to forget about certain practical but still selfish decisions that they took. He's a man, also, obsessed by images and by appearances and who, when the world doesn't live up to those images and appearances, doesn't know what to do. He just retreats into his head." His character has a lot of layers... and I really like that. Makes the story all the more interesting. Edited March 20, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The interesting thing about multiple characters is they don't all have to be flawless. For some reason, videogames need super-likeable leading characters to be enjoyable, when this is not really the case in many other forms of storytelling. In fact, most of Shakespeare's leading characters were terrible people like Macbeth. The best TV show characters are your Walter White's, Tony Soprano's and Al Swearangen's; generally despicable men that are brilliant to watch. Videogames are decades behind in storytelling because of this simple point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The interesting thing about multiple characters is they don't all have to be flawless. For some reason, videogames need super-likeable leading characters to be enjoyable, when this is not really the case in many other forms of storytelling. In fact, most of Shakespeare's leading characters were terrible people like Macbeth. The best TV show characters are your Walter White's, Tony Soprano's and Al Swearangen's; generally despicable men that are brilliant to watch. Videogames are decades behind in storytelling because of this simple point. Actually, I like that Michael is flawed. He seems more human in that sense... like the events in his life has led to his flaws. As you said about Walter and Tony, I think Michael is alot like them. They are all pretty much around the same age... all family men... all have these big egos, and are very calculating. They have flaws, but their flaws deliver us a great story. Michael is described by Dan Houser as a man who has alot, and nothing to lose. Alot AND nothing to lose? That sounds pretty f*cking awesome story-wise. But yeah, it's good we have multiple protags so we can balance things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That's what I was saying. We finally have flawed characters - as in characters that aren't flawless - because of multiple characters. GTA V is no longer using that model and I also think it's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That's what I was saying. We finally have flawed characters - as in characters that aren't flawless - because of multiple characters. GTA V is no longer using that model and I also think it's great. Yep! And I strongly believe that since we now will have 3 different view points of the story, one of the protagonists will most likely become an antagonist... either indirectly or directly. It happened in IV with Niko, Johnny, and Luis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratocastor15 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 All very good points! I could see the storyline developing into another GTA IV type thing. It'll be interesting to see how all 3 characters will fit into the one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rare.steak Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I understand the universes are separate, but it was just a theory. Like I said, it's completely wrong, and that's why it's a THEORY. You are one big f*cking idiot. It's definitely not real, yet you propose it's a theory? f*cking genius. Ask which if your parents dropped you on your head as a baby. Also, spell "Stratocaster" right before naming yourself that, please. Disgraceful c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Bill Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I understand the universes are separate, but it was just a theory. Like I said, it's completely wrong, and that's why it's a THEORY. You are one big f*cking idiot. It's definitely not real, yet you propose it's a theory? f*cking genius. Ask which if your parents dropped you on your head as a baby. Also, spell "Stratocaster" right before naming yourself that, please. Disgraceful c*nt. Stop beating about the bush dude. Tell him how you really feel... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlappyPwnsAss Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I understand the universes are separate, but it was just a theory. Like I said, it's completely wrong, and that's why it's a THEORY. You are one big f*cking idiot. It's definitely not real, yet you propose it's a theory? f*cking genius. Ask which if your parents dropped you on your head as a baby. Also, spell "Stratocaster" right before naming yourself that, please. Disgraceful c*nt. Holy sh*t. calm your pants. Its just a thought BY SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I understand the universes are separate, but it was just a theory. Like I said, it's completely wrong, and that's why it's a THEORY. You are one big f*cking idiot. It's definitely not real, yet you propose it's a theory? f*cking genius. Ask which if your parents dropped you on your head as a baby. Also, spell "Stratocaster" right before naming yourself that, please. Disgraceful c*nt. Oh my god, holy sh*t? Watch out guys, we've got a badass over here. Be careful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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