grandthefthoughto Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 what about a mission that requires you to kill a russian to regain someones favour and call it "dead red redemption?" ...i'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 If Red Dead Redemption were to be in the same universe as GTA like manhunt was, Bonnie McFarlane would've said "Liberty City" instead of "New York City". That's a really good, yet disappointing point if it means they're set in different universes. I thought it would've been cool to see a cameo from John Marston's grandson or great grandson. Maybe an old man sitting in a deserted town telling us about how he had to leave his life in the old west or something. Tbh,i always imagine that Johnny Klebitz is Marston's great grandson. When they show first picture of Marston i thought "oh look,we will play as Johnnie Klebitz's grandpa". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsrow Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hang on - I agree kesta - but if they have say a ghost town that resembles Armadillo to a tee, they can still do it. Its just an easter egg. It doesn't necessarily have to say "Armadillo" as you enter it. But Blackwater? No. Can't see that happening. Blackwater was used as the modern, industrialized antithesis the old west, that is all. Yeah, I'm all for an easter egg or a reference, but if there is one I think it will be along the lines of people discussing a nameless outlaw turned slave for the government that fits John's description, but never mentioning his name so it could be anyone but it would still clearly be a RDR nod. A ghost town resembling Tumbleweed or Armadillo is also possible. It seems like RDR would be such ancient history that I can't imagine how it could become a conversational subject in GTAV. But, what if there could be a reference to a current (in GTAV) western movie that is "based on a true story" and there is a radio commercial for it, or even a trailer on the GTAV in-game TV? Still sounds like a stretch to me, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIllaDopest Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 No. Redemption was based on Texas/Mexico over 100 years ago. GTA V is based modern day Southern California. This If the OP knew anything about Red Dead Redemption he would have known this, and not have made this this thread in the first place. @ deffpony You have not played RDR ? You are slippin' big time. You need to play RDR, it's pure gaming excellence and in a class of it's own. Yea I know, im pretty pissed at myself. Im going to try and make time for it this summer @Deffpony that'll pass the time for V to come out. OP what about if they mention a cowboy that used to be a real bada** in the early 1900s, ahem John Marston, and how he did all these amazing things for a chance at "redemption" for his past sins. Maybe someone, like a crooked priest, is trying to give some insight to Trevor who feels like he need to be redeemed? IDK maybe im just high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 California was referred to as such in Sam Odessa's stranger mission.They didn't call it San Andreas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrizio Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It was but IIRC Miami was referred to as both Vice City and Miami in GTA III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothGetaway Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Hang on - I agree kesta - but if they have say a ghost town that resembles Armadillo to a tee, they can still do it. Its just an easter egg. It doesn't necessarily have to say "Armadillo" as you enter it. But Blackwater? No. Can't see that happening. Blackwater was used as the modern, industrialized antithesis the old west, that is all. Yeah, I'm all for an easter egg or a reference, but if there is one I think it will be along the lines of people discussing a nameless outlaw turned slave for the government that fits John's description, but never mentioning his name so it could be anyone but it would still clearly be a RDR nod. A ghost town resembling Tumbleweed or Armadillo is also possible. It seems like RDR would be such ancient history that I can't imagine how it could become a conversational subject in GTAV. But, what if there could be a reference to a current (in GTAV) western movie that is "based on a true story" and there is a radio commercial for it, or even a trailer on the GTAV in-game TV? Still sounds like a stretch to me, however. If I recall correctly there was a western commercial in IV, that kind of teased RDR. Would definitely be cool to see in V. I think anyone who's played RDR would love a sequel. OT: Black Water always struck me as a Midwestern town, more like Minneapolis or Chicago, than any west or southwest town. I doubt there will be a reference in GTAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Mitch_Baker Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Blackwater as in the mercenary group?? Or from RDR Blackwater is called Xe now, so no more confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman2389 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Sorry for this post, I wrote it earlier when I was half awake and wasn't really aware of this. But since I am more awake now than when I posted this I will say this much. I'd like at least be able to see something RDR related, even if it's a small ghost town in the middle of nowhere. Oh and if one has not played RDR I highly recommend it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetops Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Maybe just references ("Remember that good ol' Blackwater town out there. Got some fine and dandy clothes and hos") Because if Blackwater is in GTA V, I would say it already became city with skyscrapers and tall commercial buildings because Blackwater in RDR seems to be the 'town-center' and will be the first one to be developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyz Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) How about a really small Easter Egg like by a tree somewhere there are gravestones that are hard to read but closely resembles the Marstons. I agree that a small gosht town in the far corner of the map could be like a town from RDR Edited March 20, 2013 by dannyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Aces Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I for one think it would be very thoughtful and really cool if it was there. On a side note, I got half way through the replies and started to laugh. I really hope you don't spend too much time on these forums because the negativity that is present here could sap the spirit of Lassie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Aces Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 what about a mission that requires you to kill a russian to regain someones favour and call it "dead red redemption?" ...i'll get my coat. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazzer14 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 what about a mission that requires you to kill a russian to regain someones favour and call it "dead red redemption?" ...i'll get my coat. Sweet idea, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tupiz Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I think it'd be kinda pretty cool, but with another name though. LA Noire had a RDR easter egg actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahmatic Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Armadillo would be a cool ghost town in V, other than the fact that it wouldnt make sense because they'd have to use a similar land layout, which they wont be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StepY0gameUP Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The idea is cool but being how smart a lot of us are rock star knows how we will probably pick up on things that doesn't add up. Also with the comment about rock star games not being part of the real world is false it is. Though liberty city and vice city and San Andrea relate to new York Florida and California. When you search on the police database in gta 4 and where some of the criminals are from are real life places one I do remember seeing was Florida. Also with rock star adding real life celebrities such as Ricky Gervais and katt Williams there obviously not from liberty city. I think all in all well see an easter egg of some sort in the mountains somewhere maybe John Marston hat or old western guns. But nothing to major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA5isntAMYTH Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 no black water probably even though have a house that looks like john's house in RDR blowing up, they could have black water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliston Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) I do remember seeing was Florida. That's because Vice City is located in a fictional version of Florida. Florida exists in the GTA universe as do the states of Nevada, Alabama, Alaska, Utah, Texas, Kansas & Ohio. Edited March 21, 2013 by Eliston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I'd much rather have remnants of an old Wild West ghost town. That would be awesome. Kind of like in COJ: The Cartel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG33 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The Red Dead series is a totally separate entity and has no connections to the GTA series. It can if they wanted it to. Rockstar can do whatever they want. It'll be cool to have some John Marston references. Or better, some LA Noire references since Los Santos is basically Los Angeles. "Gay Cowboys" or one of the made up actors/actresses names from LA Noire on GTA's version of Hollywood Blvd? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red XIII Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Like others have said, it couldn't happen as they don't share the same continuity. I don't see why R* couldn't just have all their games in one universe. Doesn't that make it more plausible that blackwater could be in GTAV, because if GTA and RDR were in the same universe then how can blackwater be in 2 places at once? It could be similar to how there are 2 los santos but in 2 different universes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1a Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Blackwater as in the mercenary group?? Or from RDR Judging by the "ghost town" and "Armadillo" and "desert area" I think the answer is fairly obvious. Sorry I never played RDR... Say whaaaaaaaaaaat? Deffpony, you shock & disappoint me . How come you haven't played it? I was never a fan of Western movies but RDR ended up being my 'Game of This Generation', well until GTA V is released anyway. Unless you game exclusively on PC, I strongly urge you to buy RDR GOTY edition. As others have said, RDR & GTA are set in different universes. However the house that Trevor sets fire to in the second trailer does look very similar to the MacFarlane ranch house. I wouldn't mind seeing a small town that looks similar to Blackwater. I suggested that the house looks similar when the second trailer was released but If I remember rightly someone didn't agree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDayz Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 There is no doubt we'll see a lot of things that look like things from Red Dead Redemption out in the Los Santos surroundings. The house Trevor blows up in the GTA V trailer 2 bears some similarity with the Marston house in Red Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck R. Wood Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Just Google: Abandoned Salton Sea, and you'll see what we'll see in the in-game Alamo Sea area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle117 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I understand that Bully and Manhunt have possibly been mentioned in the same universe as GTA but Red Dead Redemption, apart from the fictional game setting, made mention to real places like San Francisco and California. If they mentioned San Fierro and San Andreas then I would believe in these Easter Eggs. But as said in other posts, RDR was in the Texas/New Mexico area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LackedMushroom0 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Hang on - I agree kesta - but if they have say a ghost town that resembles Armadillo to a tee, they can still do it. Its just an easter egg. It doesn't necessarily have to say "Armadillo" as you enter it. But Blackwater? No. Can't see that happening. Blackwater was used as the modern, industrialized antithesis the old west, that is all. Yeah, I'm all for an easter egg or a reference, but if there is one I think it will be along the lines of people discussing a nameless outlaw turned slave for the government that fits John's description, but never mentioning his name so it could be anyone but it would still clearly be a RDR nod. A ghost town resembling Tumbleweed or Armadillo is also possible. Tumbleweed indeed! That was the first that came up in my mind when I read this topic. I think it'd be cool if they had like a sort of town that is totally abandoned that gives you a feeling that it's haunted. Just like Tumbleweed in RDR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Malo94 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 The Red Dead series is a totally separate entity and has no connections to the GTA series. It can if they wanted it to. Rockstar can do whatever they want. It'll be cool to have some John Marston references. Or better, some LA Noire references since Los Santos is basically Los Angeles. "Gay Cowboys" or one of the made up actors/actresses names from LA Noire on GTA's version of Hollywood Blvd? Just a thought. More like wishful thinking. Just because you can cross two or three different things together doesn't mean you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewyR Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Blackwater as in the mercenary group?? Or from RDR Judging by the "ghost town" and "Armadillo" and "desert area" I think the answer is fairly obvious. Sorry I never played RDR, those other tidbits are what made me assume it was RDR related Holy sh*t! go grab yourself a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremoMania Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 The Red Dead series is a totally separate entity and has no connections to the GTA series. It can if they wanted it to. Rockstar can do whatever they want. It'll be cool to have some John Marston references. Or better, some LA Noire references since Los Santos is basically Los Angeles. "Gay Cowboys" or one of the made up actors/actresses names from LA Noire on GTA's version of Hollywood Blvd? Just a thought. More like wishful thinking. Just because you can cross two or three different things together doesn't mean you should. Yeah in the end it is not your decision as an avid gamer who could change the facts, R* still has the ultimate fate of two universes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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