Payday 2

[RedDagger]

so uh

 

how's bout that new update

 

finally released the stuff from the COP

 

and they totally listened to the community about skins

haha seriously what the f*ck is this

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

 

I wonder how they will sell their next games.

[FullMetal]

so uh

 

how's bout that new update

 

finally released the stuff from the COP

 

and they totally listened to the community about skins

haha seriously what the f*ck is this

They had their chance to redeem themselves.

 

Oh wait we'll just f*ck you all even deeper. What's that? We don't listen?! HERE HAVE 7 DLC PACKS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY OWN CONSIDERING YOU SPENT MONEY ON THE COP PACK.

 

Really, f*cking really. Overkill went from one of my favorite developers to the f*cking worst. And it only took them one f*cking week of their own 'crimefest'. Last year's Crimefest was a bit disappointing but atleast it was fair. And I don't care people defending the whole safes/stat boosting skins thing. It's still f*cking pay2win and microtransactions bullsh*t f*cker. Not to mention purely CS:GO's fugly weapon skins. Seriously, this is NOT how weapon skins worked community made.

 

Atleast 'custom skins' were private. If you want to use fugly ass skins with 'dankness' and 'bling' with 'custom mods' it's your problem. Other players don't have to look at your retarded/stupid/fugly ass skins. This time around you can witness people being retarded and witnessing them having spent 20 bucks on safes/drills to use a 'dank ass skin' with 'dollah signs'.

 

Really f*cking really. I tried playing the game again (because FWB/Slaughterhouse actually look cool and were some f*cking awesome heists). But the weapon overhaul seems rather sh*t too. Some guns have been redeemed/made usable and 'fun'. Others are completely sh*t.

 

I don't know what to think. I feel like I wasted alot of money on a (currently) sh*tty game. Yes, I had my +/- 2 years of fun. But still, I had to spend alot less money on Fallout 4 and I can already imagine spending much more time with that game. And I know, there are even people out there who spent 1000+ hours on Payday, which I can believe.

 

Which makes it more sad really. How Overkill/Starbreeze f*cks up their reputation. Not giving a f*ck about the fanbase who made them big and gave them their reputation of making a super fun co-op game, that bought extra copies for their friends so they could play it together. Now they seem to focus on the 'new players' and attracting 'new people' who gladly spend money on f*cking microtransaction safes and drills.

 

 

Yeah, I'm f*cking pissed about this.

 

 

[Niobium]

i think it's hilarious how overkill is committing suicide.

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

Guess what happens when you refund The COP Pack:

 

[B Dawg]

To be honest, anyone who bought COP is an idiot.

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

The funny thing is people were thinking that OVK was too poor to patch the consoles. even if that was the case, I remember Sony and MS changing that rule.

 

Who the hell would pay 20$ for a dlc that no one knows anything about with less than 1% content compared to say EFLC.

[B Dawg]

$20 to a Company who kept half the game behind DLCs (like over half the weapons, masks, customization, etc...), and used the game to advertise John Wick, The Walking Dead, Alesso, and loads of mone other bullsh*t. I don't feel sorry for COP buyers.

 

50000 COP sales x $20 = 1 Million Dollars, the most cash for the least effort they've ever done.

 

Funny stuff to lift the mood

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=553802232

Edited November 13, 2015 by B Dawg

[FullMetal]

Who kept half the game behind with DLC's? That's a rather stupid remark to make. The base game was fun and worth it's price. Some/most of the DLC packs actually add what you pay for in my opinion and I didn't mind paying for pretty much all the packs (and ok, some of them were a big letdown).

 

But at the time most of us fans who bought every DLC and invted into Overkill with the COP pack expected and were thinking to get a proper amount of DLC (hell, we were even expecting all PD:TH heists remade for PD2 with extras like weapons and whatnot).

 

You guys think it's funny that me, and 50 000 other people bought the COP's? Well then; funny enough there are idiots shelling out money for the safes/drills for these terribad weapon skins. That's what even more sad. They're shelling out money for virtual crap. Not even that because a virtual crap would actually offer a entirely new model + textures to the game. Now they're getting just a very sh*tty and effortless skin.

[B Dawg]

Yeah I don't seem it okay to keep anything that isn't an AR/SMG/Pistol/Shotgun/One DMR behind DLCs (the only one good free thing they ever gave out Weapon wise is the recently added KSP LMG), while the ability to cut down on the grinding and make any weapon in the game decent (Gage Courier) is behind a DLC, every single sniper rifle is behind a DLC, every single special shotgun ammo type is behind a DLC (unless you count 000 Buckshot but that's basically regular ammo in functionality but only worse in performance), every single explosive weapon is behind DLC, every fire/damage over time weapon is behind DLC, 90% of the melee category is behind a DLC, the ability to max out AK/CAR weapons again behind another DLC, a really awesome Auto Shotgun was behind a DLC (the Steakout with a Drum Mag), and they were too cheap and lazy to fix up and release the Drum Mag for the Izmha which was in the game files (can be enabled with mods), the Battle Rifles (not an official category, but weapons such as the Eagle Heavy/G3/Falcon) which are different than regular Assault Rifles are also all behind DLCs, every single throwable (unless you count the Ace Of Spades) DLC!

 

Basically, every single thing that looked cool and that wasn't your regular looking sh*t was basically DLC. You bought the LMGs pack? Well f*ck you, if you want to make those things usable, buy the Gage Courier DLC! Want any weapon that isn't the UAR to be good? f*ck you, buy Gage Courier! Want a drum mag for your Izmha? f*ck you, buy a DLC!

 

Simply giving just throwable cards, Butcher Mod Pack and one LMG ain't enough.

 

The devs were greedy before, they're just even greedier now.

Edited November 14, 2015 by B Dawg

[Niobium]

hehehehehe

 

 

 

[mrpain]

I have 1083 hours into this game. I am at Infamy 20, I could have gone to 25 but I like my level to be displayed as XX-100.

 

This is my favourite game of all time. Well. Was.

 

Overkill is truly amazing. They managed to anger an entire fanbase in just a span of over a month. I've complained much already on the Payday subreddit, and you guys probably share the same thoughts as I am.

 

Seriously thinking about uninstalling it. But, this game has been a part of my life for the past two years now. It's like seeing a dear old friend slowly rotting and dying away.

Life is such a cruel mistress.

[Niobium]

 

time to move on to another game

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

Someone should make a "rip off" that is made for the fans by the fans.

 

In cases like these I would aprove a "rip off".

[Flachbau]

Can anyone help me understand all that's going on? Last time I played this game was back when it released on 360, honestly.. I hear the devs are a bunch of greedy assholes, now.

[RedDagger]

Crimefest is where players complete multiple challenges together, which basically involve playing a lot of Payday 2, with challenges having a reward, with the idea being the rewards are free gameplay additions/improvements.

 

This year, the final reward was the addition of weapon skins, where you drop crates cases safes and have to buy a key drill to unlock them. The skins are amazingly sh*te in design, but they have gameplay-boosting effects like more damage. So it's not a free reward, and it makes the game more P2W.

 

But wait, that's not all! Back in spring you could get the Completely Overkill Pack (COP), which was a limited DLC (the most expensive of the many, many DLCs) that contained a bit of content, but more importantly had a secret reward to be given out later, that was hinted at as being purely cosmetic and "crafted with love and care" or the like. After a bit of delaying, the content got released a few days ago, and...it was a safe and a drill. i.e. you get a random skin. With the possibility of a stat boost, i.e. not purely cosmetic - and this was after the community had already got up in arms over the addition of skins, so people got fairly pissed off.

 

Also, when the COP reward dropped, in the same update they added skins that have team boosts, which increase the XP and money gained from a mission, and can stack if multiple people have them. Making the game more P2W.

 

There were also some fun weapon rebalances and a lack of communication from Overkill during the debacle, which made things worse. All in all, they went all money-hungry.

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

Crimefest is where players complete multiple challenges together, which basically involve playing a lot of Payday 2, with challenges having a reward, with the idea being the rewards are free gameplay additions/improvements.

 

This year, the final reward was the addition of weapon skins, where you drop crates cases safes and have to buy a key drill to unlock them. The skins are amazingly sh*te in design, but they have gameplay-boosting effects like more damage. So it's not a free reward, and it makes the game more P2W.

 

But wait, that's not all! Back in spring you could get the Completely Overkill Pack (COP), which was a limited DLC (the most expensive of the many, many DLCs) that contained a bit of content, but more importantly had a secret reward to be given out later, that was hinted at as being purely cosmetic and "crafted with love and care" or the like. After a bit of delaying, the content got released a few days ago, and...it was a safe and a drill. i.e. you get a random skin. With the possibility of a stat boost, i.e. not purely cosmetic - and this was after the community had already got up in arms over the addition of skins, so people got fairly pissed off.

 

Also, when the COP reward dropped, in the same update they added skins that have team boosts, which increase the XP and money gained from a mission, and can stack if multiple people have them. Making the game more P2W.

 

There were also some fun weapon rebalances and a lack of communication from Overkill during the debacle, which made things worse. All in all, they went all money-hungry.

Well said.

 

If you wish to play the game then play it with dlc unlockers and don't buy any dlc.

[Flachbau]

That drill situation totally screams CS:GO, imo.. (at least CS:GO has decent skins, lol) It's unpleasant to see such a cool, fun to play game become riddled with this type of sh*t. What a shame.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Android

[Error2k]

Finally someone made a skin unlocker mod: http://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/payday-2/161166-a_squareds-skin-unlocker.html

[FullMetal]

Ugh people don't seem to understand: their whole concept before with DLC wasn't bad at all.

You could enjoy the game without spending a dime: alot of my friends did. They didn't care about 'buying' the new characters/guns/heists. All they wanted to do was play. Hell, they never were host so lucky for them I bought pretty much every single piece of DLC. Because I wanted it all/wanted to be able to use every gun. And guess what: some DLC guns were terrible, others were pretty good. Were they OP'd as sh*t compared to the base guns? Not really. Did they give you some improvement? A little in some cases.

But in the end it was fair: you paid to get a bunch of guns, a character and a heist. Some were free, others were paid... simple. This microtransaction system that also relies ALOT on luck (hoping to have the 'sh*tty MS paint reskin made by a 12 year old' you want with desired stat boosting effect) is pure hogwash.

 

It's pretty much gambling really. You spend your money and hope to get something good. Didn't get what you wanted? Tough luck spend more money and try again.

PLUS: COP is the biggest waste of money ever. Really... I actually thought it had something to do with some exclusive masks/safehouse customisation or whatnot. No; we get something we all hated when they announced it. And to 'douse out the flames' they f*cking give us as COP rewards even fuglier skins we hate.

And yes: I Slaughterhouse/First World Bank are GREAT additions. But LONG overdue. Not to mention where the f*ck is safehouse customisation after 2+ years? Why the f*ck do you focus on adding f*cking bullsh*t that isn't even related to the game/isn't supposed to be in there? Really, it's showing colours. Not to mention NOT even f*cking reconsidering what they've done.


AGAIN: As on Reddit/STEAM forums I beg you all. Place NEGATIVE reviews on STEAM/METACRITIC. Please DO IT. That's one of the only ways you can hurt them. Also do NOT buy any f*cking drills or safes. Really don't.

 

 

The people saying 'you can get money by selling the skins/safes/sh*t you don't like and move on. DONT DO THAT. They make money off those transactions aswel. We should completely ignore the f*cking safes and drills. But it's too late for that I know. Enough idiots spend money on those safes/drills.

[Richard Power Colt]

Weren't they rebalancing the weapons again? Or did they do that already?(I'm talking after the crimefest update). As someone who only recently started playing the game and bought most of the DLCs, because they were on -75% sale, I don't really find the crimefest stuff that bothersome. It's just stuff that I can easily ignore, but I do understand it being annoying for players who don't have DLCs or are veteran players and were used to how things used to be. I kinda got a bit bored of the game already though, the last time I played I was nearly at level 100 on infamy level 1. My favorite missions are the sort of robbery missions where you go into a building and empty it from all the loot and there's a bunch of optional stuff to bag, but I've already played most of them through a fair few times. It feels kinda repetitive for me already.

 

Regardless, it's still 10 times better than playing GTA Online heists BOOM!

[Xerukal]

At least we still have this to look forward to.

 

https://twitter.com/TenChambers

 

The creative minds behind the series are pursuing the goal of another co-op shooter. Hope it works out much better this time. Payday 1 deserves a better spiritual successor.

[FullMetal]

Seriously people f*ck up their Metacritic score and STEAM rating with reviews. That's one way we as consumers can hurt them.

 

Nutsack McQueen... it's not really about the fact they've added skins. It's about the fact they've lied to us. It's about the fact that they never said they were going to add microtransactions and they've done and did it. It's about the fact that they said they'd 'update the game with lots of free content' (which in a way they did) but they supplied the game with even more (important) paid content. Which is not really bad in any way, they're still a business.

 

But you know, alot of players like myself have shelled out their cash for the base game as a pre order, bought pretty much all DLC's (yes all of them, including the COP... but I didn't get the Chivalry pack). Easily this game was a '20 bucks super fun CO OP game' to a 'quite expansive 120+ eurodollar game.

 

Which again, I don't really mind considering the game is 2 years old and they said they will support the game for another 2 years. (and I'm starting to doubt what they said about that because they also said they'd never add microtransactions.

 

On top of that that's not all! Us hardcore fans were promised pre release and when in beta that there would be 'safehouse customisation'. We all anticipated this and were eager to explore this. Weeks, months and years go by with sometimes a short mention of 'we're working on it'... or 'it's taking alot more time than we expected'. And guess what, holy f*cking sh*t 2 years AFTER release they still haven't added said feature in the game. Hell, it should've been in the game to begin with.

 

But what do they do? Start designing other PAID DLC content (which is forgiveable) AND adding f*cking MICROTRANSACTIONS (which they stated before numerous times THEY WOULD NEVER ADD). Hell, Almir even stated in yesterdays interview that they only started working on it during/after the Spring Break event (Hype Train event). He pretty much even stated constantly that they don't seem to care anymore. Empty excuses, alot of vague 'promises' for trying to make things better (no word on actually turning things around, actually fixing things, actually providing a solution.... or actually saying 'hey we f*cked up and we're going to make something better and if it's not good enough then you can get your money back').

 

Yes, and you could actually get your money back for the COP. But apparently, alot of people start doing so. Overkill found out and they actually made it impossible to refund.

 

In short: people are pissed because we care. People are pissed off because they've invested enough time and money in this game/in this developer/company and yet for some reason they found nothing better to do than break their promises and f*ck all of those hardcore supporting fans in the ass.

[B Dawg]

So Almir apologised:

http://steamcommunity.com/games/218620/announcements/detail/85928399508949511

 

But I don't give a sh*t until I see some changes and improvements to the game for once, something like this so I don't have to rely on mods:

 

[FullMetal]

Empty apology and overdue. Plus it doesn't even say anything concrete. They try to convince you that they care, say sorry, and move on to the 'more important matter' they need to discuss.

 

There should've been a HUGE post already them explaining their reasoning why they added the Black Market and other bullsh*t updates/changes to the game and why it backfired, that they will change it and that they really feel ashamed for thinking it was something good.

 

Really, super unprofessional skins for weapons with stat boosts and not to mention SAFES/DRILLS all tied together with microtransactions?

 

They're not removing them, I guarantee you. They're not gonna compensate for the f*ckING bullsh*t COP... I am willing to bet on that. They don't give a sh*t anymore whilst they actually should. The ones that actually made this game great, big and pretty much advertised it properly to the 'masses' (and bought pretty much every single DLC/bought 'multiple' keys for their friends) are getting f*cked in the ass big time. And for what? To make more profit they think eventhough Payday 2 was generating enough profits as it was.

 

And yes, their DLC scheme was pretty questionable. But it was fair. You paid for the DLC you get all the content of a DLC pack. You don't want to pay? Fine, you can still enjoy the heists and the weapons you still have (and gotten for free) are sufficient to preform well in the game.

 

This however is nonsense.

[Ai®a©ob®a]

 

 

Another $5 DLC that gives you two jobs and a pistol

[Niobium]

i heard good things about this DLC. it won't be enough for me to reinstall though

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

Wasn't their excuse for MT is that we will get future dlc for free?

[Ai®a©ob®a]

i heard good things about this DLC. it won't be enough for me to reinstall though

Under the mountain is decent but it's stupidly easy abd then sky burst is bacially kill about 15 guys in the plane to open the doors then you jump out you find 3 pallets they usually end up on the same 4 roofs, you light a flare, he picks it up you go into a tunnele to escape.

 

I haven't paid for a DLC for the last 6 months greedy pricks can go to hell

Wasn't their excuse for MT is that we will get future dlc for free?

I though the whole Microtransaction were proven to be false?

[B Dawg]

They use microtransaction money to make fancy looking websites and trailers. Well I'm not sure if that is really it, but Almir did say something along the lines of ''These things take a lot of people to make.''

 

http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/492379439671483070/?tscn=1449139382#c492379439671584943

 

My reply to that was on Page 2, with no reply from Almir himself. I guess it's true.

Edited December 5, 2015 by B Dawg