GTA-King Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) 3:33 "Well ya know, for me, the action is the juice." -Michael from Heat. adrenaline rush: a sudden burst of energy from an increase in the hormone and neurotransmitter adrenaline, esp. egotistical: Someone who thinks they are the best and are never wrong. The action. That's what will fuel Michael in Grand Theft Auto V. Once he got relocated to Los Santos and started a family, his life has turned mundane & boring. He can't communicate with his kids, & his wife only loves his money. He feels worthless, & empty inside, which is why he's in therapy. The domestic life is not what he expected. But, after seeing the ruthlessness of Franklin during one of his hustles, it inspires him to fill the void in his heart with the thing he loves most... crime. After years & years of being out of the game, Michael could be a ticking time ready to explode right back onto the playing field. The adrenaline of a heist for Michael would be the same kind of high as crank is to Trevor. But, will Michael's ego cause tragedy/death for his family? And how will Franklin & Trevor handle his narcissistic traits? I can't wait to find out! MARK MY WORDS: THE ACTION WILL BE THE JUICE FOR MICHAEL, NOT THE MONEY. Edited March 9, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 lol mark MY words: it was/is obvious since the release of trailer #2 that it's not about MONEY for Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Do you even think about your threads anymore? Or do you just throw together a few movie references and some words that sound clever plus some unfinished BB Codes and press publish? All you've done is told us what we already know King. [EDIT] lol, bro I'm drunk. That would explain it. Edited March 9, 2013 by lzw3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) lol mark MY words: it was/is obvious since the release of trailer #2 that it's not about MONEY for Michael. lol, bro I'm drunk. But how was it obvious in trailer 2? @lzw3: f*ck you. I put alot of effort into my last thread, but yet it's virtually un-noticed. Sorry if this thread seems like just another useless one in the V section. At least I'm trying something different ffs. Edited March 9, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 lol, I thought it was obvious that for michael it's not about the money, because he has a nice sports car, a huge villa, and he seems like he's doing okay. fat equals wealthy, as he has money to buy food etc. (at least back in the days) So going from his stomache with the lovely detailed manboobs, he's doing fine. He's playing tennis yo, he got 99 problems but the cash ain't one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) lol, I thought it was obvious that for michael it's not about the money, because he has a nice sports car, a huge villa, and he seems like he's doing okay. fat equals wealthy, as he has money to buy food etc. (at least back in the days) So going from his stomache with the lovely detailed manboobs, he's doing fine. He's playing tennis yo, he got 99 problems but the cash ain't one I don't think it's obvious though. I mean, his wife could be the reason he returns to crime in the first place because she spends all his $$$. So maybe at first it's about paying off her debts, then later he gets addicted to the rush of being a criminal again. Edited March 9, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 ^That would be a fun twist. At first It looks like Michael is in it for the juice. Gettin back into the vortex of crime and sh*t because he want to be there, because he's sick of the life he's living right now which only gives him headaches instead of a rush. BUT THEN, we find out that the real reason for him to go back to WORK is because he can't pay his rent anymore and all his cheques ARE BOUNCING NOW, because is wife is a shopping-holic or whatever and she spent all the money they had. Maybe she has a gambling problem too and just went ALL IN, and when the stakes were too high for her to cash in to see the ace on the river, she just got a bet a copy for the property ownership of michael's house. Now Michael's ass is about to get evicted, and he's broke. And that's why he's actually back in the game, yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Hell, as long as we flip off the very concept of morality in the process and run over some people and possibly animals on the way, I shall get on this ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) @Noclue_42: Don't forget this horrible f*cking economy. That could definitely factor into the equation. Just think of the movie Fun with Dick & Jane. I imagine it would be about the money first, & later it will evolve into an adrenaline rush, then finally his ego will be out of control. He could be a danger not only to Franklin & Trevor, but also to his own family. I'd be willing to bet that he pushes Franklin & Trevor to do more heists, even though they are already rich as f*ck. It wouldn't be about the money to him at that point. He just wants to fuel his adrenaline & feed his ego. @Racecarlock: That sounds like a daily thing for Trevor to do in my game. Edited March 9, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 ^ Don't forget this horrible f*cking economy. That could definitely factor into the equation. Just think of the movie Fun with Dick & Jame. I imagine it would be about the money first, & later it will evolve into an adrenaline rush, then finally his ego will be out of control. He could be a danger not only to Franklin & Trevor, but also to his own family. I'd be willing to bet that he pushes Franklin & Trevor to do more heists, even though they are already rich as f*ck. It wouldn't be about the money to him at that point. He just wants to fuel his adrenaline & feed his ego. Hell, I wish the economy didn't need to be involved and he just got back into it because it's so much fun. One big reason I liked SR2 so much is that the guy I made turned out to be more like me then I thought, even going so far as to sing along to songs I would sing along to. And another thing, most of these crime stories seem to have a wedding that gets assaulted in them and then the protagonist goes after the bad guy because how dare he bust up the wedding. How about WE bust up the wedding for once? I mean, for god's sake, GTA is based on being a villain, but IV and even San Andreas to a lesser extent contained protagonists that seem like morally flexible batmen who don't have anything against guns. There was always someone more evil. Why can't I be "Someone more evil" this time around? What if this time we got pegorino's perspective on the bellic wedding, so to speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) ^ Well, that brings us to the protagonist/antagonist debate. I think Michael will be the social antagonist (manipulation, lies, narcissism) & Trevor will be the physical antagonist (death, destruction, mayhem). Both of them would be the protagonist/antagonists... because we as the players have control of them, but they could view EACHOTHER as antagonists. Franklin would be the pure protagonist, because he's the new kid. The middleman. Imagine if Michael was to rat on them in order to save his family, & we have to decide if we need to take him out as Trevor and/or Franklin. Edited March 9, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I imagine it would be about the money first, & later it will evolve into an adrenaline rush, then finally his ego will be out of control. He could be a danger not only to Franklin & Trevor, but also to his own family. I'd be willing to bet that he pushes Franklin & Trevor to do more heists, even though they are already rich as f*ck. It wouldn't be about the money to him at that point. He just wants to fuel his adrenaline & feed his ego. Because Michael's IN THE EMPIRE BUSINESS now?! Haha you watch too much breaking bad. Not like it's bad thing, to the contrary really, but that's just the heisenberg drama you portrayed right there. Maybe it's a classic/common way of how these kinda things pan out, so it's natural for people to go out like that all blazing and sh*t, dragging down anything and anyone within their radius on their own way to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) ^That, and the fact Dan Houser himself has described Michael as egotistical, and a man with a short temper. Edited March 9, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Michael's motivation to get back in the game is partly financial, as it was stated that his wife is burning through his money at a rapid rate. So you can't really compare Michael to Neil McCauley in that regard. Neil was a batchelor who didn't seem to have an extravagant lifestyle. Even though Michael's relationship with his family is strained, if It came to it, I'm sure he would die for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjeev142 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I would just like to remind everyone that Michael is not the only character in gta 5. Gta king if you're going to make detailed topics like this, then diversify them. I don't think ive ever seen you make a thread about Franklin or Trevor and quite frankly, I don't think there are any more topics you could possibly make about Michael considering that we only know so little about him. Sorry. It's just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) I would just like to remind everyone that Michael is not the only character in gta 5. Gta king if you're going to make detailed topics like this, then diversify them. I don't think ive ever seen you make a thread about Franklin or Trevor and quite frankly, I don't think there are any more topics you could possibly make about Michael considering that we only know so little about him. Sorry. It's just a suggestion. I'm getting sick of your little snaps at me. If you have a problem, just PM me. I like Trevor & Franklin too... but Michael's story is more interesting to me. So I can make detailed topics about him, with logical speculation, if I damn well please. How about you go make some detailed topics about Franklin & Trevor if it really bothers you that much. Edited March 10, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0eladn Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 How about you go make some detailed topics about Franklin & Trevor if it really bothers you that much. Yeah make one about Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deffpony Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Well I think that "the juice" is definitely a huge factor in Michael deciding to get back in the game but money was the straw that broke the camels back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0eladn Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Well I think that "the juice" is definitely a huge factor in Michael deciding to get back in the game but money was the straw that broke the camels back. I hear a lot of people saying the money etc. I think he just isnt qualified for doing anything else but crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I agree with what GTA-King says. Michael is in fact a really interesting character as he wants to get "back in the game", to feel the kick out of doing the stuff he did in the past but unfortunately nothing goes exactly to plan and I'm sure whatever Michael did in the past will come back to bite him. I think everything Michael does in GTA V will suddenly turn his world upside down, and as Dan Houser said "He'll retreat back into his little head". -Wheatley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Well I think that "the juice" is definitely a huge factor in Michael deciding to get back in the game but money was the straw that broke the camels back. I hear a lot of people saying the money etc. I think he just isnt qualified for doing anything else but crime. It's probably all he's ever done. He most likely earned alot of money to keep as a comfortable nest egg for him and his family... so he wouldn't ever have to work again. But over the years, Amanda spends more & more of his money on materialistic things. They could be on the verge of bankruptcy. So Michael is forced out of retirement to return to what he knows best, crime, so he can keep the family afloat. I imagine it will be about the money at first, but eventually it would only be about the action I agree with what GTA-King says. Michael is in fact a really interesting character as he wants to get "back in the game", to feel the kick out of doing the stuff he did in the past but unfortunately nothing goes exactly to plan and I'm sure whatever Michael did in the past will come back to bite him. I think everything Michael does in GTA V will suddenly turn his world upside down, and as Dan Houser said "He'll retreat back into his little head". I agree 100%. Michael's first intentions could be to provide for his family, but later it turns into something else... like satisfying his ego. I do think Michael will pay for the choices he makes. Crime & family don't mix well. I know it may sound like I'm comparing Michael to Walter White and/or Tony Soprano, but why not? With the info we currently have, they seem alot alike imo. If Tommy Vercetti can be based off Tony Montana, then why can't Michael be based off Walter White and/or Tony Soprano... or even a little bit of Neil McCauley? Edited March 10, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Well I think that "the juice" is definitely a huge factor in Michael deciding to get back in the game but money was the straw that broke the camels back. I hear a lot of people saying the money etc. I think he just isnt qualified for doing anything else but crime. It's probably all he's ever done. He most likely earned alot of money to keep as a comfortable nest egg for him and his family... so he wouldn't ever have to work again. But over the years, Amanda spends more & more of his money on materialistic things. They could be on the verge of bankruptcy. So Michael is forced out of retirement to return to what he knows best, crime, so he can keep the family afloat. I imagine it will be about the money at first, but eventually it would only be about the action I agree with what GTA-King says. Michael is in fact a really interesting character as he wants to get "back in the game", to feel the kick out of doing the stuff he did in the past but unfortunately nothing goes exactly to plan and I'm sure whatever Michael did in the past will come back to bite him. I think everything Michael does in GTA V will suddenly turn his world upside down, and as Dan Houser said "He'll retreat back into his little head". I agree 100%. Michael's first intentions could be to provide for his family, but later it turns into something else... like satisfying his ego. I do think Michael will pay for the choices he makes. Crime & family don't mix well. I know it may sound like I'm comparing Michael to Walter White and/or Tony Soprano, but why not? With the info we currently have, they seem alot alike imo. If Tommy Vercetti can be based off Tony Montana, then why can't Michael be based off Walter White and/or Tony Soprano... or even a little bit of Neil McCauley? Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NONative Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I hate to disagree, but IMO money and action isn't what Micheal is about. I believe the hidden truth is Franklin. Micheal sees Jimmy as a failure as a son and not worth his time. Hint the reason Micheal says Franklin is "The son I always wanted.". Micheal I beleive is getting back into the 'game' is to reach one goal. To pass on his knowledge, to as person he see as fit, and cement his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Micheal I beleive is getting back into the 'game' is to reach one goal. To pass on his knowledge, to as person he see as fit, and cement his legacy. Interesting thought. I personally think there is more on his mind than perserving his legacy. Sure that could be his ultimate goal with Franklin... pass on all his knowledge as a criminal mastermind to him. But I really believe there is much more motivating him beyond wanting to teach his apprentice. I think it all comes down to his family life, & how long he's been out of the criminal life. We know the relationship he has with his family is strained, so depending on how long that has been going on, it could be a major motivator for him to return to crime to feel ALIVE again. A mid-life crisis kinda thing. In the GI article, it say his wife is spending alot of Michael's money on materialistic things. So maybe that could be the first reason he returns to crime, to keep the money coming. Then later on it will be about something different like satisfying his own selfish needs, feeling alive as a criminal again, free from family troubles, the adrenaline rush, ect. Edited April 15, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NONative Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 You make valid points, but I don't think Micheal is the family man every one makes out. In the GI article Micheal also cracks a joke hoping his wife would be killed. Knowledge and the ability to 'con' he way out is what he is. Old age is creeping in and the idiot son has not shown any ability to be his fathers son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 In the GI article Micheal also cracks a joke hoping his wife would be killed. I cracked up pretty hard at this. I remember reading that bit, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NONative Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 In the GI article Micheal also cracks a joke hoping his wife would be killed. I cracked up pretty hard at this. I remember reading that bit, too. That's what is really driving me back to being a GTA fan like I was with GTA:VC. GTA:SA was great don't get me wrong but VC was and is my favorite of the series so far. GTA IV (aka Niko) I hate because it didn't have to humor that the GTA series had before. I believe the 'tongue and cheek' humor in V will be a huge part of my enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPhilly Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I feel 99% certain that Neil McCauley is a massive source of inspiration for Michael, just as Heat is a massive source of inspiration for V, as well as past GTA titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I agree, based on what we’ve seen, the Thrill is the only real motive we’ve seen of Michael’s he obviously has the means to do what he wants, get what he wants. But I also think there‘s a tad bit of pride for him in it as well. Not to mention a means of escape from the daily grind, but that goes with the thrill of it. Personally I think Trevor has similar reasoning to it was well (minus the big pride part), as he most likely dosen’t give two s***s about money, he dosen’t seem like the type to want a big house and allot of cars, he likes the simpler things in life. Obviously the money is a welcome bonus, but I don’t think it’s his big goal based on what we’ve seen and heard about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPhilly Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 My reasons: Trevor - thrill, kick of it. Franklin - it's a way out of what he's stuck in now, a better way. Michael - because he's running out of money, and because he's good at it, smart enough for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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