IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Lets respect all beliefs here and have a open mind with dealing with others cultures. If you don't, please feel free to keep you thoughts, emotions and alleged education to yourself. The reason I'm creating this topic is because I will like to understand different cultures views of how we became to be. Even if you don't have a belief in a creator of the universe and trust that we came to be from a long mutation due to environmental changes and natural selection. My purpose is to try to find some connections without having to do extensive research, because with school and work I have little time. Whats your beliefs and why? I'll go first. I'm a strong believer in a creator of the universe mainly because of my life experiences with the Church at a younger age and my "weird" life experiences in which I still cant explain. At points I felt like I was brainwash to trust in something I had no physical grasp to, I couldn't see God nor the Devil but I was suppose to follow Jesus "Yahshua's" teachings. I figure the God/Good and Devil/Evil were just how people described what caused things to happen, however that changed one day. I remember my grandmother being called to a housebound in a rush and told me to stay put. I didn't. I followed behind her after giving her a 5 min or so head start. I'm a kid around this time, 10 years old and I felt I had all the strength in the world when it came to defending my grandmother. As I came up to the house all I can see was a police car and ambulance and the personnel were outside talking to each other. I heard screams come from the house inside and when I peeked into the window, what I saw change my view forever. It was this older lady, "forget her name" looking as if she was having some type of seizure and throwing up white foam at the same time. She was cursing and kicking and she was looking as if she was in great pain like suffering some type of mental, psychical and spiritual disorder, but the paramedics were over by the cop looking as if they didn't know what the hell was going on. It was weird to me at first. I was like so this is an exorcism? I didn't see no heads spinning around nor levitation but I did hear some strange language and see her reaction to words from the bible, the cross and holy water. After a while she seem to calm down and this is when I went to beat my grandmother back home. Once I got there she prayed over me and that as much as I can remember. This event also with the other times of being visited in my room while I was younger by this man. It felt like 3-4 nights in a row and for some reason it keep telling me it was God and to come with it. The first 3 times I thought they were just dreams and thought nothing of it but the 4th night when it came, I prayed and it never visited again. Yeah, this all might sound crazy as sh*t bu now you group of strangers know some of the deepest secrets that even some of the closet people in my life don't about. I did leave out parts for time shake, such as artifacts my grandmother own. Feel free to share, I promise not to judge you. Despite if you believe what I say were true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Oh we all know this is going to go well. I'll try to stay 10 feet away, but just to stay on topic and all...I'm an atheist who is firmly grounded in science. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I believe nothing before evidence gives me reason to. for instance, I wouldn't believe in something just because it's comforting or sounds pleasant. I had enough of that as a child (Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, etc). as an adult, I'm much more interested in the truth and what's real than stories that just make me feel good. that's what Nursery rhymes were for. the root of most evil is dogma. dogmatic beliefs are what allow good people to do bad things without thinking. it doesn't really matter what form it takes; be it religion, nationalism, jingoism, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of San Andreas Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I don't believe in anything superstitious. Edited March 4, 2013 by Master of San Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I spelled huemans like that own purpose and should of stated that. I just combine hue and man. What's up with this misconception of "science" equals atheism. I think that is foolish and is believed by very shallow people. I as well believe in science but that doesn't take away my belief in a higher power such as a creator. I do find the bible very helpful when I'm down and fully understand how science benefits huemanity in a range of areas. And how both can be used for "evil or good" or the universally belief or lack there off; such with killing, stealing and lying. Edited March 4, 2013 by IM_YOUR_GOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of San Andreas Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I spelled huemans like that own purpose and should of stated that. I just combine hue and man. lol ok sorry you should have stated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) Oh we all know this is going to go well. I'll try to stay 10 feet away, but just to stay on topic and all...I'm an atheist who is firmly grounded in science. Now you know. I'm with trip. Edited March 4, 2013 by Forty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I believe nothing before evidence gives me reason to. I haven't seen any evidence that shows evolution would have been a positive thing for the earth. Since evolution isn't fullen proven to be true, do you not believe in that either? Wheither its creation or evolution, both need faith to fill in the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 TL;DR i guess i'll stay on topic. "faith is when you still believe and all the facts are stacked against you" $$H New York Crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Since evolution isn't fullen proven to be true actually it is. there is no longer any debate on whether or not evolution is true. not amongst anyone who is worth listening to. evolution is in the fossil record. it's consistent across virtually every species of fauna that we have discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Since evolution isn't fullen proven to be true actually it is. there is no longer any debate on whether or not evolution is true. not amongst anyone who is worth listening to. evolution is in the fossil record. it's consistent across virtually every species of fauna that we have discovered. this i did read and you should aswell. $$H New York Crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) What's up with this misconception of "science" equals atheism. That is an odd and ,I'd have to say, inaccurate statement. I was a person of no faith who questioned the whole religion thing long before I started really following any of the science stuff. edit: oh oh oh oh oh...and half of the science stuff that supports evolution and has managed to calculate the Big Bang to within milliseconds happened after I stopped believing in Santa and his baby he had with Mary. Edited March 4, 2013 by trip My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mordecai Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 When i was younger, i was "religious", mostly staying out of trouble so i wouldn't get sent to hell, and every time i did something bad like cursing, I'd pray that God would forgive me. I use to think that if i prayed enough and believe in "God" that things would be ok. It wasn't. When i was 10-14, a sh*t load of unfortunate things happened to me and my mom, like how she tired killing herself and her getting sent to a mental hospital, or being homeless until i was 12. I kept praying that God would make it better, but it didn't happen. Then in my freshman year of high school, i became agnostic/atheist after taking Earth Science with a "if god is that f*cked up. then f*ck him" aditude. But now, I'm just confused on it. I'm starting to get into religion again because my best friend(whose like a sister) had an epiphany and started going to church and became super religious, yet i could just be wasting my time. IMO at this point, my idea of Huemans was some sort of "force" created the universe. Not exactly God, but who knows? TL;DR A know it all teenagers opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. León Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I'm agnostic, but if I had to choose between atheism and a religion, I'd go with atheism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 no one is really agnostic. if someone claims to be agnostic, what they really mean is that they're an atheist who is still in the closet you either believe in this stuff or you don't. if you're not sure, then allow me to make it easy for you: you don't believe. just admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 I agree with El_Diablo you really cant try to play both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Anyone who still thinks evolution is unproven needs to stop posting on the internet until they read more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 @Forty Until whatever you speak becomes the law, I advise you to stop looking down on those who don't share the as views as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I get to disagree with my god and the devil today! I don't think I know enough about the world right now to claim that I don't see enough evidence for the existence of god, or against him (in fact, I don't think either group could give any real concrete evidence backing up their beliefs, which is fine, I understand that faith is a thing, and it really doesn't matter to me what you believe). I think it's ridiculous to think that you absolutely know a creator does or doesn't exist. That said I'm almost positive that humans developed through evolution, whether it was guided or not isn't something I really care to think about. I'm also going to try so I don't sound like a bigger idiot in front of everyone. Edited March 4, 2013 by zoo3891 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 @Forty Until whatever you speak becomes the law, I advise you to stop looking down on those who don't share the as views as you. I'm not looking down on anyone whatsoever. I'm stating that it's no longer theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 @Forty Until whatever you speak becomes the law, I advise you to stop looking down on those who don't share the as views as you. I'm not looking down on anyone whatsoever. I'm stating that it's no longer theory. Burden of proof lies on you. Wheres your proof its no longer a theory, given I trust you know how science and theories works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 @Forty Until whatever you speak becomes the law, I advise you to stop looking down on those who don't share the as views as you. I'm not looking down on anyone whatsoever. I'm stating that it's no longer theory. Burden of proof lies on you. Wheres your proof its no longer a theory, given I trust you know how science and theories works. http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2012/evolutio...cated-as-1-2-3/ ehem. $$H New York Crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 @Forty Until whatever you speak becomes the law, I advise you to stop looking down on those who don't share the as views as you. I'm not looking down on anyone whatsoever. I'm stating that it's no longer theory. Burden of proof lies on you. Wheres your proof its no longer a theory, given I trust you know how science and theories works. I said I wasn't going to get involved but... I'm pretty sure the book of Genesis has more holes to fill than the theory of evolution. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I do occasionally wonder if there was some kind of creator. Not like a God in a holy book or which a so called prophet has described, but just some kind of entity which created/caused the big bang. And saying you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe the Earth orbits the sun, or you don't believe in gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 @Forty Until whatever you speak becomes the law, I advise you to stop looking down on those who don't share the as views as you. I'm not looking down on anyone whatsoever. I'm stating that it's no longer theory. Burden of proof lies on you. Wheres your proof its no longer a theory, given I trust you know how science and theories works. http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2012/evolutio...cated-as-1-2-3/ ehem. Not clicking on that link. The bourbon of proof lies on you, here you must defend yourself. What type of evolution do you believe in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 That is the burden of proof. Show me the burden of proof on God? You also lie within these boundaries you have given. $$H New York Crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 That's the point, I actually wrote why I believe in a creator or lack there of. All you have to do is tell me what makes evolution real in your lenses. Not saying it false. You just have to support the distinction. simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 The problem is that science is sometimes biased. Take Zircon for example, it would suggest a cool earth formation. But because it goes against a well known theory of earth's formation, it is not widely accepted even though the evidence is there to prove it. Why would they want to deny it? Perhaps it's because it lines up with the Bible's idea of earth's formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 That's the point, I actually wrote why I believe in a creator or lack there of. All you have to do is tell me what makes evolution real in your lenses. Not saying it false. You just have to support the distinction. simple. no. $$H New York Crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodDamnMaster Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Pascal's Wager. If you believe in God you have nothing to lose, but if you don't, then no outcome is good for you. There is one flaw with this theory; God would know if you're faking a belief in him. But then again, you have nothing to lose by at least giving it a shot. I was born and raised a Catholic, but I've become significantly more skeptical over the years. There hasn't been any tangible evidence to disprove the existence of God, so I've decided remain indifferent to religion in general. Intel Core i9-9900k | Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750W | 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHzMSI GeForce RTX2070 | WD Blue 1TB HDD | Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GBAntec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower | MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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