GTAF MVP Tournament

[Mr. Reaper.]

I'm not sure if you're just ignoring my posts, or being arrogant.

 

Mafiya Work is all about luck.

Team Mafiya Work takes a level of skill.

 

Playing Mafiya Work, without it's Team Variation is just a game of luck.

You have to hope you spawn closer than anyone else.

 

Where as in Team Mafiya Work, you can work as a team to reach that objective.

When playing solo, it's all about who spawns closer.

[Rewas]

Let's just leave like it is. I hate races, but you don't see me crying about it.

[Hodgey.]

Let's just leave like it is. I hate races, but you don't see me crying about it.

Racing is the best part of IV online, shooting sucks

[A J]

I'm not sure if you're just ignoring my posts, or being arrogant.

 

Mafiya Work is all about luck.

Team Mafiya Work takes a level of skill.

 

Playing Mafiya Work, without it's Team Variation is just a game of luck.

You have to hope you spawn closer than anyone else.

 

Where as in Team Mafiya Work, you can work as a team to reach that objective.

When playing solo, it's all about who spawns closer.

That's a retarded argument because Car Jack City is just like Mafiya Work except it's limited to just car missions!

 

As I said, if everyone goes and plays CJC and MW, then everyone says CJC is better I'll change these settings, otherwise it remains.

 

How can you state I'm ignoring you, when I've directly responded to your posts ?

 

Like COOLMAN said, there will be modes some dislike, please quit your crying.

[Crimson Flam3s]

I like how the tournament is setup, and mw fits in just nicely. Gta is about shooting and driving. Tdm covers shooting, races covers driving and mw is a nice combination that has drive bys and missions etc. It fits in just nicely and I don't see how cjc would make it better.

 

Btw lazyboy I suggest less talk and more action(and that goes for psn chats too ). Don't overthink stuff, if you are interested then sign up if you can.

Edited March 4, 2013 by Crimson Flam3s

[Guest]

 

That's a retarded argument because Car Jack City is just like Mafiya Work except it's limited to just car missions!

Come on AJ, look at it from others' point of view.

Please read this, think about it etc.

 

In MW, you're supposed to be the first to an arbitrary location, and your luck of this is determined by where you spawn.

 

In CJC, yes, it can also be judged by where you spawn, but everyone has a chance. If someone steals the car, you can intercept them, have driveby wars, and ground wars. Sure someone else can take the car after killing you, but even if you're not a good shooter, you stand a chance because you can wait for them to take the car and use your drive-by skills to get the advantage.

 

CJC is truly what GTA is about imo, lots of driving and lots of tactical gameplay, this only rarely happens in MW.

[Mr. Reaper.]

 

That's a retarded argument because Car Jack City is just like Mafiya Work except it's limited to just car missions!

 

As I said, if everyone goes and plays CJC and MW, then everyone says CJC is better I'll change these settings, otherwise it remains.

 

How can you state I'm ignoring you, when I've directly responded to your posts ?

 

Like COOLMAN said, there will be modes some dislike, please quit your crying.

All I'm saying is MW, has to many variables for such a tournament.

 

It's not about which is 'better' it's about which is more practical.

CJC is consistent, were as MW is far from it, and very random.

One moment isn't an objective worth $500 then another for $1500.

Plus the difficulty of said task differ greatly.

 

You're ignoring what I'm saying about constancy, and retorting with irreverent statements.

 

Lastly, don't tell me I'm the one crying when you've created an event to counter an award your upset about.

Edited March 4, 2013 by Mr. Reaper.

[Crimson Flam3s]

That's a retarded argument because Car Jack City is just like Mafiya Work except it's limited to just car missions!

 

As I said, if everyone goes and plays CJC and MW, then everyone says CJC is better I'll change these settings, otherwise it remains.

 

How can you state I'm ignoring you, when I've directly responded to your posts ?

 

Like COOLMAN said, there will be modes some dislike, please quit your crying.

All I'm saying is MW, has to many variables for such a tournament.

 

It's not about which is 'better' it's about which is more practical.

CJC is consistent, were as MW is far from it, and very random.

One moment isn't an objective worth $500 then another for $1500.

Plus the difficulty of said task differ greatly.

 

You're ignoring what I'm saying about constancy, and retorting with irreverent statements.

 

Lastly, don't tell me I'm the one crying when you've created an even to counter an award your upset about.

mw isn't as random as you make it out to be. Of course all modes have some luck involved, some do more than others but mw doesn't rely entirely on luck like you are making it out to be.

 

You still need to be drive fast and be good at drive bys with the added pressure that everyone is your enemy, a lot of the missions involve getting someone/thing from point A to point B and you can steal that from someone. I fail to see how CjC is better in than mw for the actual purpose of this tournament.

[Banks.]

Lastly, don't tell me I'm the one crying when you've created an even to counter an award your upset about.

 

Good luck with this I guess. I would sign up but I probably wouldn't be welcome

[A J]

All I'm saying is MW, has to many variables for such a tournament.

 

It's not about which is 'better' it's about which is more practical.

CJC is consistent, were as MW is far from it, and very random.

One moment isn't an objective worth $500 then another for $1500.

Plus the difficulty of said task differ greatly.

 

You're ignoring what I'm saying about constancy, and retorting with irreverent statements.

 

Lastly, don't tell me I'm the one crying when you've created an even to counter an award your upset about.

Apples and oranges, opinions differ.

 

One minute Lazy, you claim....

 

'I've never got a proper chance at Car Jack City as it's always empty'...

 

The next you are it's spokes person, and write....

 

 

In CJC, yes, it can also be judged by where you spawn, but everyone has a chance. If someone steals the car, you can intercept them, have driveby wars, and ground wars. Sure someone else can take the car after killing you, but even if you're not a good shooter, you stand a chance because you can wait for them to take the car and use your drive-by skills to get the advantage.

 

CJC is truly what GTA is about imo, lots of driving and lots of tactical gameplay, this only rarely happens in MW.

 

All I can say in response, is that MW involves multiple mission types, including 'taking vehicles from A-B (CJC is only that)....but also includes so much more on top (suitcases, armoured vans), all of what you said in that statement can also happen in MW.

This idea that Mafiya Work is going to be about shooting, is also flawed, because the blips are off. It's about map knowledge, driving and driveby. CJC is too, but it's boring. End of.

 

 

.........now, Mr. Reaper

 

True MW has many variables, but this tournament is for fun, it's not to be taken too seriously, the cash prize isn't real. It's about having a fun experience, if you seriously think winning this or any event is more important than having a bit of fun, then you need to get outside a bit more often!

 

How is CJC 'consistent', when vehicles range from $500 - $1500 and spawn very randomly! Again another flawed logic. To reduce the concept of luck, I'll change the duration, to either timed or $7500.

 

I only set this up, for what I saw as a bit of a laugh at the awards, and to crown the best all round player, not the best shoot, no the best racer, not the best at being lucky , but the best player.

 

This will work better than any voting system and I highly doubt that I will come anywhere near winning.

 

[Rewas]

Guys, please don't fight.

 

Let's just add CJC then and be happy friendly bros. I really hate seeing fighting on the internet, even IRL. I don't really care what modes are we gonna play, I just want to play with you all, because I respect you and luv ya.

[Mr. Reaper.]

 

I fail to see how CjC is better in than mw for the actual purpose of this tournament.

This tournament, is meant to be fair and the way to class the 'true MvP'

 

How can you claim it as fair when you have a game such as MW.

 

MW, has a random list of objectives, that are randomly selected.

Due to the randomness of this selection, tournament matches will not be equal nor fair.

 

Example:

Game A has the 'easier' objectives.

Game B has the 'harder' objectives.

 

If you want an equal and fair tournament both Game's should be equal.

Mafiya Work has far too many variables to get two games that are similar.

 

Where as CJC, despite still being somewhat random has less variables.

There for more equal, and more of a fair challenge for all contestants.

 

I'm not trying to insult your sacred game mode, but it's not fit for this tournament.

By keeping it in this tournament all your doing is putting an ace up your own sleaves.

Therefore making this no better than the forums awards in terms of not actually earning it.

[paul]

keep it as it is.

[A J]

mw isn't as random as you make it out to be. Of course all modes have some luck involved, some do more than others but mw doesn't rely entirely on luck like you are making it out to be.

 

You still need to be drive fast and be good at drive bys with the added pressure that everyone is your enemy, a lot of the missions involve getting someone/thing from point A to point B and you can steal that from someone. I fail to see how CjC is better in than mw for the actual purpose of this tournament.

Well said Flames

 

Also Tommy, you are welcome to join, I'm an asshole, but not that much of one .

 

Where does this idea come from that I'm upset about Andy winning by votes? I got no problem with the winner, or the fact I didn't win (that would be as equally unjustified as Stueycow winning MVP) , just think there are better ways to decide things like this, than a democracy vote.

 

[Guest]

everyone chill the f*ck out i got this sh*t

 

AJ, reduce max points of MW, add a match of CJC (not replace, add) and in general balance everything out. if you can get x amount of points from shooting or MW, you should be able to get x amount of points from driving and CJC.

 

 

[Rewas]

Maybe you should add ALL gamemodes? Since it will decide who's the best player on GTA IV on ps3.

[Guest]

Maybe you should add ALL gamemodes? Since it will decide who's the best player on GTA IV on ps3.

That'd take too long.

[Hodgey.]

keep it as it is.

f*ck that dont listen to Grease AJ

 

I say delete all the modes that involve shooting and just do the races, id be fine with that.

[Mr. Reaper.]

True MW has many variables, but this tournament is for fun, it's not to be taken too seriously, the cash prize isn't real. It's about having a fun experience, if you seriously think winning this or any event is more important than having a bit of fun, then you need to get outside a bit more often!

I fully agree with that final statement.

 

You really do need to get outside more often.

 

 

You've created this entire event to counter the awarding of Andy as MvP.

You can try to debate that this isn't the case, but everyone's seen your posts and rants.

Hell, the tagline to this event is even "No Voting Involved" coincidence?

 

 

AJ, I really don't know what your problem is you're so incredibly narrow minded.

MW may be the greatest mode in your eyes and the one you seen as most like GTA.

 

But when I read and signed up for this, I was expecting a fair and balanced tournament to crown a MvP.

Not to play the game modes that best fit GTA as chosen by yourself and fellow Damned members.

 

I have yet to see the day you make an event that hasn't be built for The Damned.

 

 

Lastly, the game mode that is most like GTA, is Free Mode.

GTA is about doing whatever the f*ck you want and however the f*ck you want.

You can debate that all you want.

 

I'll show up to you event as a sign of good faith, but don't expect me to credit the 'winner'.

[Banks.]

Maybe you should add ALL gamemodes? Since it will decide who's the best player on GTA IV on ps3.

That'd take too long.

But this event is to find the most valuable player so it doesn't exactly need to be done in a night.

 

All game modes would be pretty awesome that way there will be no more arguing

[Guest]

Guys, don't argue...

 

EDIT: Actually good point Tommy, all game modes would be a good idea.

[Crimson Flam3s]

 

I fail to see how CjC is better in than mw for the actual purpose of this tournament.

This tournament, is meant to be fair and the way to class the 'true MvP'

 

How can you claim it as fair when you have a game such as MW.

 

MW, has a random list of objectives, that are randomly selected.

Due to the randomness of this selection, tournament matches will not be equal nor fair.

 

Example:

Game A has the 'easier' objectives.

Game B has the 'harder' objectives.

 

If you want an equal and fair tournament both Game's should be equal.

Mafiya Work has far too many variables to get two games that are similar.

 

Where as CJC, despite still being somewhat random has less variables.

There for more equal, and more of a fair challenge for all contestants.

 

I'm not trying to insult your sacred game mode, but it's not fit for this tournament.

By keeping it in this tournament all your doing is putting an ace up your own sleaves.

Therefore making this no better than the forums awards in terms of not actually earning it.

lol.

 

mw/tmw are not my favorite mode, that's CnC but I do like mw and I fail to see how it's an "ace up our sleeves". What you are saying is that he put it in here so that certain people would have an advantage over others right..? This is an all out tournament. No teams and no nothing. We are all by ourselves and if you look the last post on the previous page, we can see that aj already took care of your argument that mw relies completely on luck while cjc is much better for this tournament, etc etc.

 

Aj, I say leave it as it is. Don't change anything, if someone is really bothered by it then simply don't play.

 

lazy: No, obviously it wouldn't be a good idea because then some modes are would be too repetitive and it would make it longer and more complicated than it already is.

Edited March 4, 2013 by Crimson Flam3s

[Hodgey.]

 

Guys, don't argue...

 

EDIT: Actually good point Tommy, all game modes would be a good idea.

Dont ever give Tommy credit for anything the day he comes to his senses and takes his sh*t avatar down then you credit him with that.

 

 

 

 

(But yes good idea tommy play everything its the only fair way IMO)

[Mr. Reaper.]

You know what, f*ck it.

 

It's your event, and I'm done giving input.

I was just trying to help, and actually make it fair as falsely claimed.

 

In future, don't invite or ask me to give suggestions if they aren't going to be seriously treated.

[A J]

It's really difficult to do every mode, infact the modes that could included, would be Death Match - Races - MW + CJC and GTA Races. (all others are team based/co-op or free mode on IV)...

(CJC wasn't chosen initially because it's a game mode which is known for being boring and GTA Races, because it's again racing)

............

However because I see the merit in this idea of playing more modes, the final game, could feature all the modes mentioned just to give the final that extra dimension, this might ironically work in favour of those who prefer MW to DM/Race because CJC is so similar.....I guess another ace up the sleeve

 

To be honest though, You can look up my stats on GTA, , please check two things and compare, games played in Mafiya and games played in cops n crooks. I'm not a mafiya work lover as you will see from these stats , it's definitely not an ace up anyone's sleeve, it's a fun mode. Like, Racers n Breakers is a fun mode in EFLC Gang Wars.

 

One major rule has to be, every player for himself, I'll try to draw the games randomly like I did the CnC team draft, but if there are overly abundant circumstances like Yardies vs Yardies, or Damned vs Damned, I will swap and change to try and prevent this outcome. Not that I think anyone would do that, but just in the interest of fairness.

 

Now, I'm going to be really stubborn, and say this event will remain as it is. Like it or not. I've done a lot of events here, more than most, so I think most will agree I'm an honest judge and open to ideas as a host; and even if some wrongly think Gang Wars was biased to the Damned, Gang League wasn't and EFLC Gang Wars definitely wasn't.

 

(And just to put things right next time if there is a next time, instead of Team Mafiya Work, which the Damned just so happen to be quite good at, let's play Team Car Jack City instead in Gang Wars 2 on IV)

 

And I agree Hodgey, that avatar is disgusting.

 

To confirm.

 

Death Match | Races | Mafiya Work

 

Shooting - Driving - Mix of Both with a touch of luck

 

It's not perfect, and I get the point about consistency, but this is for fun, and doesn't need any more discussing which is better.

 

Good luck to everyone, and if there are any more suggestions, feel free to make them.

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

AJ I honestly don't give too much of a sh*t about CJC or everything else, I just want the races to be balanced with the shooting. 20 points max for the shooting (DM and MW have 10 each adding to 20) and for the races to have 20. Either split it into small 5 point races or two 10 point races.

 

Also, traffic on parked? C'mon AJ, races with no traffic are really just luck, anyone can keep a fixed driving line for the entire race, atleast have low/medium traffic to shake things up a bit and have the races determined by skill.

Edited March 4, 2013 by Guest

[A J]

AJ I honestly don't give too much of a sh*t about CJC or everything else, I just want the races to be balanced with the shooting. 20 points max for the shooting (DM and MW have 10 each adding to 20) and for the races to have 20. Either split it into small 5 point races or two 10 point races.

 

Also, traffic on parked? C'mon AJ, races with no traffic are really just luck, anyone can keep a fixed driving line for the entire race, atleast have low/medium traffic to shake things up a bit and have the races determined by skill.

I can not please everyone and as I said earlier , your view point of MW being , 'shooting' based isn't fully accurate. In a game that depends on being fast, I think it is far from just about 'shooting' !

 

Traffic, off has generally been the way, if others want it on then sure , otherwise it remains .

[Guest]

Sorry AJ but I just don't like this event. Take me off the participants list please.

[A J]

Sorry AJ but I just don't like this event. Take me off the participants list please.

No problem, Lazy you are now removed.

 

I had no idea the choice of Mafiya Work would result in so much debate.

I based this on the concept of Gang Wars (Voted best event of 2012 )

 

Anyways I'm hoping (wishfully, alas) a few D12 might join for this, a few more Damned and other gang members and perhaps even some unaffiliated players might too. The more the merrier.

[enjoithepain]

Are you guys kidding me? ALL game modes involve luck

 

Deathmatch: spawns of weapons

Mafia work: spawns of objectives and $ per task

Car jack city: car spawns and $ per car

Races: where the player spawns (in the middle of pack, front, or back), and if traffic is on, the stupidity of the traffic is a variable of luck

 

I'm not even good at mafia work but I support it being in the event because it is a great mix between shooting, driving, etc. the 3 game modes selected evaluate an MVP the best.

 

Although, I wouldn't be opposed to adding a game of CJC.