yoječ Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I do happen to be using RAID0 array in my PC, so I can answer any questions if necessary. But to be honest, I went that route mainly because when I bought my PC HDDs were much cheaper, and SSDs much more expensive. If I were to buy a PC today, I'd prefer SSD+HDD without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 RAID is good and all, but I will not suggest a person who doesn't know that much about computer to run it. RAID requires maintenance and when there is a problem, troubleshooting takes more time, than to a single drive. As most already know, two common RAID are 0 and 1 RAID 0, two HDDs working together to increase performance. This offers no redundancy, so if 1 drive fails all data are lost RAID 1, two HDDs working together and offers redundancy. This setup only protects hardware failures, when one drive fails, the working drive will continue to work while the broken drive is replace and the RAID array being rebuilt. Now if both drive fails, then that's another story. Other RAIDs are 5, and 1+0. I've ran RAID 0 for few years until I ditched it and bought myself a high performance HDD which offers similar performance to a RAID 0 setup. Now I run a SSD which is a lot faster than a RAID 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 What!?: i know a little of Raid, actually, it's now i know anything about it, before i only knew the name yojo2: my friends will be looking at the stuff when they have time, so when they've looked at it, maybe they want it to be cheaper or something, but maybe they agree to get an SSD too Stinky12: well, i don't even know how to set up Raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT!? Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 My personal computer is running an SSD for the OS and mechanical drives for storage/games. I like the SSD, but I'm not convinced that its really faster then a RAID0 setup. Then again my SSD is around three years old. I may just need to upgrade. Anyway, do as you like monster. I just thought I'd toss my two cents in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 My personal computer is running an SSD for the OS and mechanical drives for storage/games. I like the SSD, but I'm not convinced that its really faster then a RAID0 setup. Then again my SSD is around three years old. I may just need to upgrade. Anyway, do as you like monster. I just thought I'd toss my two cents in. I have to say, as a guy who cuts a lot of video, for, like, a living - SSD has been the best upgrade I've ever had, ever. Blows RAID out of the water. Of course, I run everything off of SSD. OS, software, and of course, the media I'm manipulating. It was an expensive investment but hoooooboy, worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT!? Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 My personal computer is running an SSD for the OS and mechanical drives for storage/games. I like the SSD, but I'm not convinced that its really faster then a RAID0 setup. Then again my SSD is around three years old. I may just need to upgrade. Anyway, do as you like monster. I just thought I'd toss my two cents in. I have to say, as a guy who cuts a lot of video, for, like, a living - SSD has been the best upgrade I've ever had, ever. Blows RAID out of the water. Of course, I run everything off of SSD. OS, software, and of course, the media I'm manipulating. It was an expensive investment but hoooooboy, worth it. Yeah, again. I may just have a slower SSD and I'm not necessarily saying one is better then the other, I'm just imparting what I have experienced between using the machines at work and using my home PC. Load times are very comparable when were talking about OS and applications. As for the video editing itself I don't do much of that (until this last weekend... its kinda fun) so I can't say for certain. If you can then I'm willing to bow out and acknowledge that you may have more experience with it then I do. Still, I would think price vs storage capacity would be a concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Likewise, I can only speak for myself. Loading an app on my 2010 macbook - final cut pro - could take the better part of a minute. Hard pressed to count to 5 on my 2012 macbook with 786MB ssd. And cutting preres 444 footage with nary a stutter nor hiccup. Annnnd key word in there may very well be "mac". Sorry for taking this so far off topic, OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 My personal computer is running an SSD for the OS and mechanical drives for storage/games. I like the SSD, but I'm not convinced that its really faster then a RAID0 setup. Then again my SSD is around three years old. I may just need to upgrade. Anyway, do as you like monster. I just thought I'd toss my two cents in. A SSD is MUCH faster than a 2-HDD Raid-0 setting. The only way you will get close to SSD speeds is by having 4 or more HDD's in a Raid-0 configuration. But even then you will only have good transfer speeds, the latency will stay the same, and that's what most people want from a SSD. The only problem is that a SSD is just too expensive right now to use it as mass storage (unless you have the money), but it's still awesome to have it for the OS and applications that you run a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Depending on how serious your video editing is, home use like making movies you took, then a socket 1155 quad core along withat least 16GB of ram. It's a common misconception that you need this much RAM for video editing, even complex editing for graphics designers. I have never heard of anyone using 16GB of ram unless they just open 50 applications for no practical purpose. 8GB of Ram is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Depending on how serious your video editing is, home use like making movies you took, then a socket 1155 quad core along withat least 16GB of ram. It's a common misconception that you need this much RAM for video editing, even complex editing for graphics designers. I have never heard of anyone using 16GB of ram unless they just open 50 applications for no practical purpose. 8GB of Ram is plenty. Don't listen to those idiots who says 8GB is enough, why are they still PS/2, how come we still have PCI, or any other nonsense. They don't know anything, and it's them that are making us spend more money on parts that's already suppose to be implemented to a board. I'm glad motherboard makers didn't listen to them when they say "why have onboard audio, I don't need it" BS. If motherboard did, all of us will be forced to spend an extra $40 or up to $100 extra on sound card. I know a person who does Blu-Ray editing and he has 12GB of ram, everything the system starts rendering, the program eats up 99% of the system memory. And now he needs a memory upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The sound card thing is a little far fetched though. I still use my Audigy 2 ZS because it's just so much superior to any on-board audio I've ever had. And that damn card is like 10 years old. I only have 4GB of RAM in my "gaming" PC, and I never ran out of it. I also did some minor video editing and stuff on it, and never had a problem. If the system is tweaked well then there's no RAM problem, but a lot of people have so much crap running that all the RAM is being taken up for no good reason. Personally I like having a clean system, not only to save RAM, but also to reduce the load on my system at any given time, because it just works smoother that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 So i should add another 8gb for the rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) I used to have a SB Live!, and now a X-Fi XtremeMusic, been using it for 7 years and it's still good. @monster875. See if your friend's budget allows for an extra 8GB. If yes, then get 16GB in 2x8GB not 4x4GB. Just note that board with 4 slots has a max of 32GB. Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit only supports up to 16GB max. To go beyond 16GB, your friend needs to run Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate 64bit. Windows 8 Core (Home Edition) 64bit max out at 128GB, and Windows 8 Pro 64bit max out at 512GB. Edited March 5, 2013 by Stinky12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Depending on how serious your video editing is, home use like making movies you took, then a socket 1155 quad core along withat least 16GB of ram. It's a common misconception that you need this much RAM for video editing, even complex editing for graphics designers. I have never heard of anyone using 16GB of ram unless they just open 50 applications for no practical purpose. 8GB of Ram is plenty. Don't listen to those idiots who says 8GB is enough, why are they still PS/2, how come we still have PCI, or any other nonsense. They don't know anything, and it's them that are making us spend more money on parts that's already suppose to be implemented to a board. I'm glad motherboard makers didn't listen to them when they say "why have onboard audio, I don't need it" BS. If motherboard did, all of us will be forced to spend an extra $40 or up to $100 extra on sound card. I know a person who does Blu-Ray editing and he has 12GB of ram, everything the system starts rendering, the program eats up 99% of the system memory. And now he needs a memory upgrade. Whoa! Chill out man! I seriously doubt people saying "You don't need that much" is driving the price of everything up haha, that's absurd. I have honestly never heard of anyone using that much RAM and a bunch of my friends do video editing and stuff at Uni, you're sure he doesn't have 32 bit windows? And I don't see why it would matter too much if he maxed out on 8gb anyway, just order another stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I recommend going with 16GB if you're running everything 64bit. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 they will get Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit also, they didn't give me a max amount of money, as they don't know how much they wanna spend i'll talk to them about 8GB more as soon as they've checked the hardware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremoMania Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 they will get Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit also, they didn't give me a max amount of money, as they don't know how much they wanna spend i'll talk to them about 8GB more as soon as they've checked the hardware Applications that are 64-bit? If you're running Adobe Premiere Pro or After Effects or Sony Vegas Pro (the applications I mostly for NLE on my workstation), it's simple to point that 16GB is better if you have 64-bit versions. Mine has 32GB to max out everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Why go for 7 Ultimate, are they really gonna use the extra features it offers compared to, let's say, Windows 8 (Core)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I have honestly never heard of anyone using that much RAM and a bunch of my friends do video editing and stuff at Uni, you're sure he doesn't have 32 bit windows? I heard he had some copy that says 69bit @OP Here are the features for Win7 and Win8 Win7 Win8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 i'll ask them if they wanna buy W8, but i'm not sure they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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