NFL Discussion

[Jonesizzle]

You are really going to count Elway as a true Indy pick? They picked the guy knowing he wasn't going to play there.

[feckyerlife]

I'm 99% sure the Bengals were a joke before Marvin Lewis came to town.

only after 1990, you forgot they went to 2 super bowls in the 80s, pretty much after Mike Brown took full control

Edited April 30, 2015 by feckyerlife

[jatiger13]

Whenever Dunbar or Randall touched the ball the line gave their mediocre asses holes to run through, and both of them produced very well when given the opportunity, and with what little time they had (which felt like an eternity with Murray off the field) they showed flashes of success.

Dunbar had a total of 99 yards. Not someone I would be confident in.

RANDLE (can't be too good if Cowboys fans don't even know how to spell his name lol) had 343 yards, 6.7 avg (for many reasons, that won't happen again ).

 

Randle looked decent, but won't look decent next season. Reasons: he came in with fresh legs against not so fresh defenders. Of course it's easier to break off big runs then. That's why his average yard/carry is so high.

 

Let's see how these backups do when they become starters and have to handle a MUCH bigger workload.

 

The only ones that are delusional here are the Cowboys fans. These guys are unproven, but ya'll act like they are more than just backups. Come back when they have actually showed that they can handle the heavier workload. Backups usually don't do too well when they are asked to do more.

 

Dallas -- where sub-mediocre players passes for starters.

Edited April 30, 2015 by jatiger13

[whats_a_username?]

Cowboys fans are very amusing.

Jatiger13 brings valid points and data to back it up. Meanwhile, the Cowboys fans just bring denial based on nothing and starts calling people delusional, even though they are the delusional fans here.

 

Gotta love it.

[Jonesizzle]

They won't be handling the workload like Murray did, we all assume it will be a runningback by commitee with McFadden presumably taking the lead. I'm not worried as you seem to be.

 

I'm delusional because we have the best offensive line, a great QB, and arguably the best receiver in the game. Sorry I have confidence in the runningbacks we have. I said with little time they had they showed flashes of success, not they are going to be the best or even better than the running attack we had last season. Jesus christ.

Edited April 30, 2015 by DOOM!

[whats_a_username?]

They won't be handling the workload like Murray did, we all assume it will be a runningback by commitee with McFadden presumably taking the lead. I'm not worried as you seem to be.

 

I'm delusional because we have the best offensive line, a great QB, and arguably the best receiver in the game. Sorry I have confidence in the runningbacks we have. I said with little time they had they showed flashes of success, not they are going to be the best or even better than the running attack we had last season. Jesus christ.

The Cowboys didn't have the best run blocking line. Only best overall, when combining pass and run blocking.

They didnt show flashes of success, at least not Dunbar. Unless you count less than a hundred yards in a season success.

 

Jatiger also pointed out why Randle looked somewhat decent. Fresh legs against a defense that has been playing a lot more snaps and aren't as fresh.

Don't count on McFadden being available for every game either. He is injury prone.

 

But there you go again... trying to discredit his claims while just using speculation.

Nothing in the past, (the only thing we can really go by), should give the Cowboys fans any confidence in the running attack. Sub 1000 combined rushing yards.

 

Speculation and projection are two different things. You Cowboys fans do too much of the former.

 

Until a Cowboys fan can come with something tangible to back up their point, I think we should move on to a different topic. Nobody can win this argument, until the season has played out.

 

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Let's discuss the draft. I can't wait for it to start.

The Bills don't have a 1st round pick this year, but I'm still excited to see who is going to which teams.

Edited May 1, 2015 by whats_a_username?

[Jonesizzle]

I'm not discrediting anything at all. I never objected to his claims about Randle or Dunbar. Only thing I'm objecting is you guys thinking we can't produce a productive runningback combination with our offensive line. What do you want me to prove? I could've told you on the first page that I've been speculating, as is everybody else on here. I'm not proclaiming anything to be factual, and if I am... sorry, you should've known better.

 

I don't know what to tell you. I have confidence in my team, especially the young and talented offensive line. I won't apologize for me being biased, don't expect yall to either.

 

Now, this is pure speculation, but you guys act like Dunbar and Randle was thrown in at the end of the game, or trying to burn clock after a blowout, just running over effortless defenders... no. They went in to give Murray a rest, and when given the chance they showed success... to me, at least, this is pure speculation in case you thought I was an official scout or coach.

 

 

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Eagles didn't get Mariota. Thank god.

Edited May 1, 2015 by DOOM!

[lastmanonearth]

Badell changed the NFL to a "for profit" organization so he can make more money from advertizing on stadiums and all over the players` jerseys like in NASCAR. Wait and see.

[jatiger13]

^What are you on about?

The NFL has always been "for profit". Did you think it was a non-profit organization? Are the owners just running these teams for fun?

It's not Goodell who would make more money either. It would be the owners.

 

 

Eagles didn't get Mariota. Thank god.

The draft isn't over yet. The trade could still get done before the Eagles have to pick at 20.(According to Mayock)

 

I don't know what to tell you. I have confidence in my team, especially the young and talented offensive line. I won't apologize for me being biased, don't expect yall to either.

We are in the same boat there. Confident in our teams. You are confident in your RB's, just like I'm confident in Bradford (if he is the starter).

 

Reports are the Giants are very, very intent on Andrus Peat.

T Ereck Flowers from Miami. Fills a need.

But its not the player or position that you wanted them to draft.

Edited May 1, 2015 by jatiger13

[Jonesizzle]

Hey, I'm a big Sam Bradford fan, I want him fo succeed as much as I want DeMarco to, despite their allegiance to their sh*tty team.

 

Chargers trade up to get Melvin Gordon. That sucks, was hoping he'd slip to the Cowboys. Hoping we go with Byron Jones or, god forbid, Marcus Peters. Any 1st round-talent type defensive lineman available when Dallas is picking they've been in trouble during or since the combine. -as soon as I say Peters KC takes him.

Edited May 1, 2015 by DOOM!

[jatiger13]

I'm pretty sure the Cowboys have the structure to be able to deal with players who've been getting in trouble.

 

 

Sweet! I wanted a WR and that's what we drafted. Nice pick by Chip.

 

 

The Broncos got a steal with Ray at 23

Edited May 1, 2015 by jatiger13

[GTA3Rockstar]

The Broncos got a steal with Ray at 23

 

Yea, that sneak attack to get passed the Cardinals. I'm sure they was gonna try for him but nop!

[Jonesizzle]

I figured Shane Ray would slip out of the 1st, good pick by the Broncos. Happy the Cowboys went secondary, the guy is freakishly athletic, so hopefully he translates well in the NFL.

 

Now I'm interested in seeing who's going to take Bryce Petty, reasonably sure some team will try to grab him within' the next two rounds.

[Funktipus]

Christmas came early for the Jets. They may have drafted one of the best players in the draft. If they keep Mo, that defensive line will be scary with the addition of Williams. And they have Revis and Cromartie on the back end - wow!

Unfortunately, Geno is still the QB.

[GTA3Rockstar]

 

Unfortunately, Geno is still the QB.

 

 

Watch, that last game of last year was a sign!

[Geralt of Rivia]

I can't believe Williams fell to #6. That's just crazy.

 

As for Ereck Flowers, the dude is 6'6 330 and he's a mauler. I'm excited. Oh, and he's only 20.

 

Beatty - Pugh/Schwartz - Richburg - Schwartz/Pugh - Flowers

 

That looks f*cking nice.

Edited May 1, 2015 by TheMasterfocker

[Funktipus]

I can't believe Williams fell to #6. That's just crazy.

 

As for Ereck Flowers, the dude is 6'6 330 and he's a mauler. I'm excited. Oh, and he's only 20.

 

Beatty - Pugh/Schwartz - Richburg - Schwartz/Pugh - Flowers

 

That looks f*cking nice.

 

Except for Beatty.

[Geralt of Rivia]

Beatty was our best Oline last year. He played pretty great. A little too many holds, but he was much better than his down year 2 years ago.

[jatiger13]

I still think the Giants have the worst offensive line in the division. Well, it's between them and Washington.

And don't start by naming injuries on the line. The Eagles had injuries on the o-line, but we still had the best run blocking line in the league.

 

Actually, the worst o-line in the NFC East will most likely belong to Washington.

Edited May 1, 2015 by jatiger13

[Geralt of Rivia]

You also didn't have Charles Brown as depth lol.

 

Charles Brown is the Golden Snitch.

[jatiger13]

Do you guys still have John Jerry?

[Geralt of Rivia]

Yes we do.

[GTA3Rockstar]

So the minute Winston gets picked, he posted this:

 

 

and the Bucs told him to take it off.

 

That was the whole controversy about him, causing a distraction to the team and making dumb decisions. Yet he did it the minute he was picked. lol

[Jonesizzle]

.... only thing out was a bb gun.

Edited May 1, 2015 by DOOM!

[jatiger13]

Well, he might have high football IQ, but he certainly lacks self awareness. But that's not a surprise, given what he shouted on campus that one time.

Maybe one day he'll learn.

 

 

Yes we do.

My deepest condolences.

Edited May 1, 2015 by jatiger13

[Geralt of Rivia]

I thought that picture was fantastic lol.

 

As for Jerry, at least he can pass block. Charles Brown just couldn't block a piece of f*cking lint.

[Jonesizzle]

He's a outstanding football player, I hope he matures and learns, but the past tends to repeat itself too often. Fun player to watch in college (as was Marioto), will be interesting to see him unfold in the pros.

 

 

Titans get a steal with DGB. He transfered here to Oklahoma in college but never played, wished he stayed one more year so he could've. Heard from a few people that this guy is a god damed beast, just is a troubled fella.

 

Hopin' Gregory slips to Dallas, don't think he will though.

Edited May 1, 2015 by DOOM!

[Geralt of Rivia]

I f*cking LOVE the Landon Collins pick. We gave up nothing and got the best safety in the draft.

 

EDIT: Trust me, you don't want Gregory. And I don't mean that because he's a good player. I'm saying it objectively.

 

EDIT 2: f*cking Eagles. Son of a bitch.

Edited May 2, 2015 by TheMasterfocker

[jatiger13]

I liked Collins as well. Good pick by the Giants.

 

We got a really good player with pick 47.

I wanted a DB and a WR early in the draft, Chip didn't leave me disappointed.

[whats_a_username?]

The ovation that Jim Kelly received was awesome. We didn't really need a corner, but I'd guess he'll be the nickel.