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Icanhandlerejection

Like Quincy, as well, especially his YAC he seems built for the slot, a serviceable TE would help immensely.  And of course a center would can complete a shotgun snap would be nice.

 

Will be interesting to see how much rust McCown has.

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DarksunDaFirst

They need to fix something here with these sliding QB's.  Guy commits to a hit and goes low, QB goes lower with a slide and gets hit in the head.

Should defenders not commit to hitting a runner?  Love how the Steelers whooped on the Panthers, but that was a terrible ejection call.

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RARusk

And Dez blows out his Achilles during his third practice.

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GTA3Rockstar
11 hours ago, DarksunDaFirst said:

They need to fix something here with these sliding QB's.  Guy commits to a hit and goes low, QB goes lower with a slide and gets hit in the head.

Should defenders not commit to hitting a runner?  Love how the Steelers whooped on the Panthers, but that was a terrible ejection call.

 

Nah, they should just know by now to not even try to tackle them cause they're going down anyways lol

 

Plus he led with his shoulder into his helmet, it's an alright call

 

3 hours ago, RARusk said:

And Dez blows out his Achilles during his third practice.

Second day, second practice

 

I guess having fresh legs isn't all that good.

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Icanhandlerejection

Not exactly a new rule that you can't hit a QB who slides feet first.  Eric Reid was trying to give a cheap shot.  It is a common cheap shot but it was a cheap shot nonetheless.  Hitting a player on the ground in head is also not a new rule, he got tossed because of both and the game was a blowout already.  You toss one player in the hope it prevents retaliation.

 

Bad luck for Dez, interested to see if he's on the sidelines with the Saints for the remainder of the season.  He should make that effort if he wants to continue his career.

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1 hour ago, Icanhandlerejection said:

 

 

Bad luck for Dez, interested to see if he's on the sidelines with the Saints for the remainder of the season.  He should make that effort if he wants to continue his career.

 

Eric Berry of the Chiefs has been out since the first game of 2017 with a ruptured Achilles. That's 14 months right now with no sign of him returning soon. Those are worse than ACL/MCL tears.

 

Pretty sure it's over for Dez. Missed all of this year and will most likely miss all of next year

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On 11/10/2018 at 1:35 AM, GTA3Rockstar said:

 

Nah, they should just know by now to not even try to tackle them cause they're going down anyways lol

 

Plus he led with his shoulder into his helmet, it's an alright call

 

 

Leading with the shoulder is an acceptable technique (and argubly a safer one) and once you commit to a lunge, there's very little (if any) you can do to stop yourself...let alone in a fraction of a second.  

And you can't just let them slide, because a lot of QB's don't - and even the ones that typically slide don't always do it.  In critical situations, need to make sure they stop as soon as possible - which means putting body of them.  If you commit to hitting the thighs and someone slides after you do so, their head is now at what level?

That's always been the problem with sliding.  QB's need understand the responsibility to protect themselves, especially when they're acting like a runningback.

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On 11/10/2018 at 12:05 PM, Icanhandlerejection said:

Not exactly a new rule that you can't hit a QB who slides feet first.  Eric Reid was trying to give a cheap shot.  It is a common cheap shot but it was a cheap shot nonetheless.  Hitting a player on the ground in head is also not a new rule, he got tossed because of both and the game was a blowout already.  You toss one player in the hope it prevents retaliation.

 

Bad luck for Dez, interested to see if he's on the sidelines with the Saints for the remainder of the season.  He should make that effort if he wants to continue his career.

Just heard on the radio the Saints signed Brandon Marshall.

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feckyerlife
On 11/10/2018 at 1:23 PM, GTA3Rockstar said:

 

Eric Berry of the Chiefs has been out since the first game of 2017 with a ruptured Achilles. That's 14 months right now with no sign of him returning soon. Those are worse than ACL/MCL tears.

 

Pretty sure it's over for Dez. Missed all of this year and will most likely miss all of next year

Dez is still under 30, if he checks his attitude im sure someone will give him a shot

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On 11/12/2018 at 9:56 PM, Funktipus said:

Just heard on the radio the Saints signed Brandon Marshall.

I'm actually really pleased for Marshall, never had a play off series in his life. Go be great!

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20 hours ago, feckyerlife said:

Dez is still under 30, if he checks his attitude im sure someone will give him a shot

 

He turned 30 on the 4th

 

Depending on how well this goes, it will determine a lot of things. If he isn't ready before/around Training camp, it'll be tough for him

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Icanhandlerejection

Still in a bit of shock that Giants won a road game!  Eli looked serviceable although he did lack the arm strength to reach Odell on that deepshot down the stretch.  The more worrying thing was how little confidence the coaching staff had in their chances by taking that shot.  Earlier in the game shows they are opening up the offense, when they took seemed a bit too much desperation.  Would be nice in the future to run two receivers deep to force the deep safety into a no man's land dilemma.

 

Jets it seemed never arrived at the stadium.   Did they know it was a home game?  Or, did they just want duck out earlier as people do who have a 9 to 5 before a three day weekend?  Barkley, the newest winner in the Buffalo you can be an NFL QB contest, I only know as a backup on the Cards from Madden.

 

FYI if you trade for Barkley in Madden you can package him in a deal with MLB K Sheppard to the Seahawks for Tyler Lockett, center prospecr Hunt, and 4th or 5th round draft pick.  (Madden 2016 season)

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dante財閥

USC's very own Matt Barkley. IIRC Philly originally drafted him.

 

Eli did well for that winning TD drive. He's still very much passed it though.

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Icanhandlerejection
On 11/14/2018 at 3:44 PM, dante財閥 said:

USC's very own Matt Barkley. IIRC Philly originally drafted him.

 

Eli did well for that winning TD drive. He's still very much passed it though.

Agreed after this season he can be cut for a bit of cap space, but with no one waiting in the wings that decision can be put off until after the draft.

 

Green Bay appears to have a coaching issue, how do you not go for it on 4 and 2 when done by only three?  Follows the unnoticed mistake against the Rams not using your last timeout before their field goal.  There was 2:40+ on the clock.  Why allow them to eat up those seconds before the field goal?  The fumble made it academic but good clock management should never be ignored.

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GTA3Rockstar

RIP Redskins' season

 

 

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Zello
2 hours ago, GTA3Rockstar said:

RIP Redskins' season

 

 

f*ck

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GTA3Rockstar

Yea, what a tough break. No pun intended lol

 

Plus, Theisman broke his 33 years ago, on this day, too. Same leg, same team

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DarksunDaFirst
19 hours ago, GTA3Rockstar said:

RIP Redskins' season

 

 




Who would have thought in the beginning of the season that it would come down between Washington and Dallas for the NFC East?

I know NY was not projected to do well, but watching the collapse of the Eagles has been excrutiating.  Way more injuries than last year in bigger positions (except QB...that's still recovering) and the depth is not as good.  Plus Pederson has shown that the loss of his two most important assistants have really hurt his game planning. 

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GTA3Rockstar

What a game that was lol

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Icanhandlerejection

Redskins are done unless Colt McCoy can somhow channel his hidden Kurt Warner energy.  Loved Shannon Sharp's comment that he thought he was out of the league until he saw him come into the game on Sunday.

 

Dallas has a legitimate chance now if they keep their offense open and their defense continues to play aggressively.  If they play conservative it looks like a race to 8 and 8.

 

Eagles might want to steal a play or two from New England's playbook and motion a WR into the backfield a few times a game for a running play.  It would be a poor man's version of play action and add a hint of deception to their offense.

 

Saints v Falcolns, at home and a short week, all the making of a blowout but suspect they will look to get both Ingram and Kamara 100+ on the ground to give their receivers the night off.

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20 hours ago, Icanhandlerejection said:

Eagles might want to steal a play or two from New England's playbook and motion a WR into the backfield a few times a game for a running play.  It would be a poor man's version of play action and add a hint of deception to their offense.

 

They used to do that with Nelson Agholor.  They did it a few times already this year, and usually successfully.  They just haven't seem to have gone to that part of the playbook in several weeks.  Think always playing from behind has something to do with that.

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darthYENIK
On 11/19/2018 at 11:09 PM, GTA3Rockstar said:

What a game that was lol

I think I died a couple times.

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GTA3Rockstar

Denver could easily be 8-3/7-4 in a playoff spot.

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DarksunDaFirst
13 hours ago, GTA3Rockstar said:

Denver could easily be 8-3/7-4 in a playoff spot.

And the Eagles could be 10-1 and aiming for a 1st round bye between NO and LA.  

But they're not.  You are as good as your record says you are.

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GTA3Rockstar
2 hours ago, DarksunDaFirst said:

And the Eagles could be 10-1 and aiming for a 1st round bye between NO and LA.  

But they're not.  You are as good as your record says you are.

 

Not really lol

 

A missed game winning field goal against the Texans, a 10pt blown fourth quarter lead against the Chiefs and the penalty that cost us 4pts against the Rams (lost by 3). Your record doesn't tell you everything

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Larcen
On 11/26/2018 at 11:03 AM, GTA3Rockstar said:

a 10pt blown fourth quarter lead against the Chiefs

I wouldn't necessarily say that.  That game was pretty much the game that completely sold me on Mahomes.

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1 hour ago, Larcen said:

I wouldn't necessarily say that.  That game was pretty much the game that completely sold me on Mahomes.

 

I would.

 

It was 2nd and 30 and they give up a 23yd completion and then a 35yd completion because the coach is stupid. Then we actually had a wide open DT for the game winning TD but Keenum overthrew him.

 

 

 

I'm not quite sold on Mahomes. We know how it can go differently in the second year.

 

Good to bad? RG3 - 9-6 (0-1 playoffs) 29 tot TDs 6 int 4000 tot yards in his first year to nearly out of the league

 

Bad to good? Goff - 0-7 6 tot TDs 7 int 1100 tot yards, deemed a bust in his first year to 11-4 (0-1 playoffs) 29 tot TDs 7 int 4000 tot yards in his second year. Let's not forget how ridiculous he is this year.

 

I'm not saying Mahomes isn't good but one year?? Let's give it another year

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DarksunDaFirst
On 11/26/2018 at 2:03 PM, GTA3Rockstar said:

 

Not really lol

 

A missed game winning field goal against the Texans, a 10pt blown fourth quarter lead against the Chiefs and the penalty that cost us 4pts against the Rams (lost by 3). Your record doesn't tell you everything


With the exception of the Saints game, the Eagles have been in close games each week and just figure out a way to lose and shoot themselves in the foot.  Mainly it's because they can't play from behind the way their team is built (check out their 1st quarter stats from last year compared to this year...think they were the highest or second highest scoring offense in the first quarter or half last year.  They've scored 21 points total in 11 games in the first quarter this year...).

The point is they had every chance to put themselves ahead and win, and haven't.  This past Sunday they actually came through with Carson Wentz's 2nd 4-quarter comeback of his career.  As good as he has been, he has not been challenged much to do this - and his sucess rate is pretty bad when given the opportunity (something like 2 out of 10 or 11 times).  Dropped passes, bad penalties, giving up 1st downs on 3rd and long late in game...just everything.  My point is this:
 

  • missing game winning field goal?  How about play well enough not to be in that situation in the first place?
  • blown 10 point fourth quarter lead?  Eagles were beating the Panthers 17-0 nothing entering the 4th and lost 21-17.  Tell me more about it...and the Chiefs are a really good team this year...Panthers are ehhhh.
  • penalties against the Cowboys late in the game that prevented the Eagles from scoring?

Your record doesn't tell you the whole story - but it says enough.

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GTA3Rockstar
3 hours ago, DarksunDaFirst said:

 

Your record doesn't tell you the whole story - but it says enough.

 

Yea, it either tells you if you're going into the playoffs or not. Which is all that matters. lol

 

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Larcen
11 hours ago, GTA3Rockstar said:

I'm not quite sold on Mahomes. We know how it can go differently in the second year.

 

Good to bad? RG3 - 9-6 (0-1 playoffs) 29 tot TDs 6 int 4000 tot yards in his first year to nearly out of the league

 

Bad to good? Goff - 0-7 6 tot TDs 7 int 1100 tot yards, deemed a bust in his first year to 11-4 (0-1 playoffs) 29 tot TDs 7 int 4000 tot yards in his second year. Let's not forget how ridiculous he is this year.

 

I'm not saying Mahomes isn't good but one year?? Let's give it another year

Those are kinda poor examples though.

  • RG3 was never the same player after his initial injuries.  Perhaps you could say that about any player.  But that really has nothing to do with Mahomes' current trajectory as one of the league's premier passers.
  • Goff is also kind of a bad comparative example.  I watched every single one of Goff's college games, so I was fully aware of his skill-set.  Him working in a Jeff Fisher offense is the equivalent of a Porsche 911 constantly stuck in a school zone.  It's no surprise that his game completely opened up after McVay's arrival.

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