NFL Discussion

[Jonesizzle]

Lets talk some football.

Edited August 25, 2015 by DOOM!

[Capricornus]

I definitely agree with you on the part about Steven Jackson. He's a quality RB and while is no Adiran Peterson, he deserves to be on a much better team. The Rams may be on the up and up, but Jackson testing free agency is something I agree with.

 

I personally feel that Reggie Bush should be a starting RB in the NFL again. The guys will be only 28 years old next month and he still has a hell of a lot left. I am not sure as to how much faith The Packers have in Cedric Benson, but I think they should try and get rid of him and pick up Reggie Bush if they want to have an excellent running game. Maybe Bush could also go to the Steelrs, even though Johnathan Dwyer is a good RB.

 

I am thinking Broncos vs 49ers for the Superbowl.

 

Doom, where do you think Greg Jennings and Mike Wallace should go?

[Jonesizzle]

I could see Jennings or Wallace going to New England, especially if Wes Welker ends up on the chopping block. They also could end up being in Miami, as they lack that number one receiver spot (I don't see Hartline being a dependable number one in the NFL). I could also see Jennings in Houston if he can take a pay cut, besides Andre Johnson and Owen Daniels, they're really not a big threat in the passing game and I honestly think the only reason why they are slightly a threat is because they have the second best runningback in the game right now.

 

Mike Wallace had a off year in Pitt this year. I don't know if it's because he held out, if he wasn't getting money or he just sucked (because he had a lot of dropped balls, some really crucial ones at that). He is great receiver with mcblazin' speed, and he will get a good pay check, but I don't if his performance this past season was fluke or what.

 

I will agree with you that Reggie Bush should be a starter in the NFL. I didn't like him at first, due to his USC heritage, but after a couple of years in the league he has turned out to be a really good runningback and I think he has turned into that runningback no one thought he would be.. a every down, head down runningback, not the switch the ball behind your back juke type player he was at USC. I think he'd be a perfect fit in Pittsburgh.

[B Rob]

If I was Green Bay I'd try to go for Reggie Bush because he's one of the best backs in the league at catching balls out of the backfield and he could thrive in Aaron Rodgers offense.

 

I agree with both of you that Stephen Jackson is a great back who can help a mid level team out a lot. He runs hard and doesn't get injured a whole lot.

 

 

*EDIT* Breaking News: Alex Smith has been traded to the Chiefs.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Cuban Warlord

[Chaise]

If I was Green Bay I'd try to go for Reggie Bush because he's one of the best backs in the league at catching balls out of the backfield and he could thrive in Aaron Rodgers offense.

 

I agree with both of you that Stephen Jackson is a great back who can help a mid level team out a lot. He runs hard and doesn't get injured a whole lot.

I agree that Reggie Bush would be a good fit for the Packers in terms of the passing game, but we also need a running back who can run it up the middle, and get some yards for us to open up our passing game, and I'm not sure if Reggie can do that.

 

I'd sure like it if we could keep Greg Jennings as well, but I don't see it happening, we have a lot of good receivers though so it shouldn't affect us much in the passing game.

[Jonesizzle]

Have you not watched Reggie Bush run the past two seasons. He has turned into a back who isn't afraid to run up the middle. Reggie isn't a versatile back anymore, he has balanced his style well the past few seasons. Plus, you got Aaron Rodgers, they could sign Titus Young and make him look like a pro-bowler.

 

 

I really hope we see a Chiefs/Eagles or Chiefs/Niners matchup this year.

[Funktipus]

Alex Smith will join Andy Reid in KC.

 

Top priorities for the Giants - linebacker, secondary and O-line.

[Chaise]

Have you not watched Reggie Bush run the past two seasons. He has turned into a back who isn't afraid to run up the middle. Reggie isn't a versatile back anymore, he has balanced his style well the past few seasons. Plus, you got Aaron Rodgers, they could sign Titus Young and make him look like a pro-bowler.

Well yes, he has improved a lot in the last 2 years, but I'm still not confident in his ability to run the ball everydown and be consistent. He would be a good add to our team overall though, that's for sure.

[Funktipus]

Flacco getting paid more than Brady? Damn.

[Forty]

The 49ers committed highway robbery on the Chiefs in that Alex Smith trade. The 34th pick in the draft plus a conditional 2nd/3rd rounder next year for a career game manager QB? I think the only reason Andy Reid paid that price is because he didn't see a franchise QB in this year's draft and would rather use the second rounder on a guy who can come in and play right away, and worry about his franchise QB in next year or the year after's draft.

 

Also, Flacco got seriously paid. More than Brees, Brady, Manning, all of them. I think it's too much, but that might not all be cap numbers. Some of it could be roster bonuses and signing bonuses which would still leave the Ravens enough money to go after the other free agents, since they don't all count against the salary cap.

[Jonesizzle]

I'm sorry, in my opinion, Joe Flacco isn't the best player in the league (or in league history for that matter) nor is he the best quarterback. Talk about highway robbery. I guess the new trend is if you are the super bowl winning quarterback you are bound to be the highest paid QB at some point in time.

 

[Forty]

 

I'm sorry, in my opinion, Joe Flacco isn't the best player in the league (or in league history for that matter) nor is he the best quarterback. Talk about highway robbery. I guess the new trend is if you are the super bowl winning quarterback you are bound to be the highest paid QB at some point in time.

Agreed. The Ravens really dropped the ball by refusing to work out an extension prior to the season, and after he was Superbowl MVP he had all the leverage in the world. However, it really comes down to how much of it is salary and how much of it is extra bonuses, because the Ravens can pay him whatever they want as long as the cap hit isn't too great for the first three years or so of the deal.

[tubbs51]

I agree that the Ravens got screwed with the Flacco Contract. In my opinion Flacco is a great QB (not elite) that i'm sure at least 90% of teams wouldnt mind having but like Forty said, after that postseason Flacco had (73 out of 126 Comp %: 57.9 Yds: 1,140 Yds/pass 9.0 TDs: 11 INTs: 0) he pretty much had the Ravens at gunpoint.

 

 

 

Rumors have it that the Seahawks are seriously looking into Cullen Jenkins. He was a monster in GB but was far from it in Philly. i'm wary of his age seeing as he's 32 this year but if he can give the Hawks the interior pass rush presence then as long as they get him on a short cheap contract i'd go for it.

[Chaise]

Flacco definitely did not deserve that huge contract imo, I wouldn't even put him in my Top 5 QB list, yet he's getting paid more than anyone in the NFL. Before the playoffs, I wouldn't have had him in my top 10 QB list either tbh.

 

I guess winning the Superbowl and Superbowl MVP can really make you rich.

[Funktipus]

The 49ers committed highway robbery on the Chiefs in that Alex Smith trade. The 34th pick in the draft plus a conditional 2nd/3rd rounder next year for a career game manager QB? I think the only reason Andy Reid paid that price is because he didn't see a franchise QB in this year's draft and would rather use the second rounder on a guy who can come in and play right away, and worry about his franchise QB in next year or the year after's draft.

 

Also, Flacco got seriously paid. More than Brees, Brady, Manning, all of them. I think it's too much, but that might not all be cap numbers. Some of it could be roster bonuses and signing bonuses which would still leave the Ravens enough money to go after the other free agents, since they don't all count against the salary cap.

Flacco took a chance and it paid off big time. But if the Broncos secondary does its job in the final 30 seconds of that game, we're not even having this discussion. Shows you how crazy the NFL is. Flacco should send some of that loot to Champ Bailey, lol.

 

I saw Darelle Revis' comments praising the 49ers. With all the picks they have, I have a feeling SF will make the deal. Revis will either go there or Denver.

[Jonesizzle]

I don't see why the Niners would pursue Revis, they really don't need to if they can reel back in Gholson. Broncos would be a interesting place for Revis to go, you'd have arguably the best CB in the past 2-3 years and the best CB since Revis took that spot. We will see if this can go through, and what team will take a risk on him.

 

We all forget that Charles Woodson is back out on the market. I can see him heading to San Fran, Denver or possibly Dallas (seeing how they released Sensabaugh).

[Pagelzilla]

It's already a brutal offseason in Green Bay. Losing Jennings, Woodson, Driver, and maybe Finley is going to hurt. That, on top of the expectation that the organization will end up paying Rodgers more than Flacco's $120.6 million is a lot to swallow.

[Jonesizzle]

I'm pretty sure Finley has already said he wasn't going to take a pay cut, leading to his prominent release. Seems like Finley has had the injury bug the past season or two though. Luckily, you guys have the best QB in league at the moment, so regardless of what TE you put in there, Rodgers will make him look 2x better than he actually is.

[Funktipus]

James Harrison was given his walking papers - wonder where he goes?

[Jonesizzle]

And apparently Deangelo Hall is getting his walking papers. Two handfuls of great free agents this year, eapecially on the defensive side.

[Chaise]

Definitely some great free agents out there this year, one of the best in a while imo.

 

After seeing Steven Jackson on ESPN a couple days ago, I really hope he ends up going to the Packers. By the way he was talking, his main two choices would either be the Falcons or the Packers, and the Falcons already got a good running back, but you never know I suppose. He's a really tough runner and even though he's getting old, he can still play great. I think he's exactly what we need in a running back.

[Funktipus]

Definitely some great free agents out there this year, one of the best in a while imo.

 

After seeing Steven Jackson on ESPN a couple days ago, I really hope he ends up going to the Packers. By the way he was talking, his main two choices would either be the Falcons or the Packers, and the Falcons already got a good running back, but you never know I suppose. He's a really tough runner and even though he's getting old, he can still play great. I think he's exactly what we need in a running back.

Jackson would be extra motivated to finally be playing for a winner. Both the Packers and Falcons are Super Bowl contenders. He's a good fit for either team.

 

I don't think the Giants will dabble too much in the FA pool. They have so many of their own to sign. Jets are in total rebuilding mode, plus they have to resolve Revis' situation. The word is Woody Johnson has no intention of paying him.

[Jonesizzle]

Definitely some great free agents out there this year, one of the best in a while imo.

 

After seeing Steven Jackson on ESPN a couple days ago, I really hope he ends up going to the Packers. By the way he was talking, his main two choices would either be the Falcons or the Packers, and the Falcons already got a good running back, but you never know I suppose. He's a really tough runner and even though he's getting old, he can still play great. I think he's exactly what we need in a running back.

Falcons released Michael Turner, and I guess Jaquizz Rodgers is a 'good' runningback, but not a guy I see carrying the ball even 15 times a game, due to his small stature.

 

I watched Steven Jackson on NFL Live a couple days ago as well, and I didn't realize he has amazing football intelligence. You can only hope the best for the guy.

[Chaise]

Definitely some great free agents out there this year, one of the best in a while imo.

 

After seeing Steven Jackson on ESPN a couple days ago, I really hope he ends up going to the Packers. By the way he was talking, his main two choices would either be the Falcons or the Packers, and the Falcons already got a good running back, but you never know I suppose. He's a really tough runner and even though he's getting old, he can still play great. I think he's exactly what we need in a running back.

Falcons released Michael Turner, and I guess Jaquizz Rodgers is a 'good' runningback, but not a guy I see carrying the ball even 15 times a game, due to his small stature.

 

I watched Steven Jackson on NFL Live a couple days ago as well, and I didn't realize he has amazing football intelligence. You can only hope the best for the guy.

I didn't know they released Micheal Turner, they'll probably get Steven Jackson then

 

Oh well, there are other good running backs out there to I suppose, like Reggie Bush and Micheal Turner, and some pretty good ones in the NFL Draft to, so I'm not to worried. Plus we still got a chance of getting Steven so all is good

[Funktipus]

Percy Harvin got traded to the Seahawks for picks. Excellent move.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Seahawks are going to be a good team next year if Wilson keeps it up. Real good.

 

go raiders whoop-de-doo.

[Jonesizzle]

Percy Harvin got traded to the Seahawks for picks. Excellent move.

Very good move indeed. Niners send 6th round pick to Ravens for Anquan Boldin, thats a good replacement for Randy Moss.

[Funktipus]

Kaepernick to Bolden - damn. The NFC West is going to be crazy this coming season, crazier if the Rams can upgrade the offense.

 

Giants added Cullen Jenkins to replace Chris Canty.

[tubbs51]

NFC West is going to be interesting as hell. Hawks and Niners look set for a few years and the Rams are rebuilding well and well... the cards are... well the cards have Fitz. lol poor guy.

 

I'm a bit hesitant on the Harvin move but i hope it all works out. Imagine that Hawks Offense. Wilson, Lynch, Harvin,Rice, Tate, Baldwin. Damn.

[King Kapone]

I hope there is something to Philadelphia's elevated interest in Geno Smith. He might be a good fit under Kelly.