Censorship

[GrandMaster Smith]

Am I the only one who finds censorship just kind of.. silly?

 

 

I mean watching T.V. you turn to a channel where it's a show about zombies and it just shows the most brutal and grotesque violence and gore of zombies eating human flesh, ripping out intestines and organs, brains being shot out and exploded.. All being shown in the highest definition possible with the most cutting edge effects.

 

Then you flip to the next channel where a something as beautiful and natural as a bare woman's body is censored and deemed 'wrong' in some sense.

 

 

Why??

 

 

 

I have nipples, you have nipples, our children and out parents all have nipples, we all know what they look like.. so why the hell is it censored and deemed unnatural all the while some TV show shows the most brutal violent scenes imaginable?? What is so wrong with the human body that we feel the need to have to hide it away in a dark corner?

 

 

 

We sit back in our couches glorifying violence and gore, while we treat something as natural and amazing as sex/love as something that should almost be taboo. And they when sex is glorified it's usually MTV's depiction of it which uses it as a marketing device and teaches the younger generations that sex is something you pick up for a one night stand while out in the club, instead of being a bond between two people who are in love.

 

 

What are your views on censorship? Is it necessary? Should we have a group controlling and influencing what society thinks is normal and what is taboo? I'm interested in hearing thoughts on this.

[Voodoo]

I have nipples, you have nipples, our children and out parents all have nipples, we all know what they look like..

I don't know what yours look like.

 

 

[coin-god]

I wish I knew. It's one of those things that are stuck in society and will take time to change, if it ever does.

[Brobinski]

The worst part about censorship is ██████████ ███████ █ ████ ██████████.

[Trund]

I assume you live in america? Because over here they show bare breasts during lunch time on tv, no one cares, but gore and stuff on the other hand is not allowed before 11pm.

 

So yes in a way I can understand you!

[GrandMaster Smith]

 

I assume you live in america? Because over here they show bare breasts during lunch time on tv, no one cares, but gore and stuff on the other hand is not  allowed before 11pm. 

 

So yes in a way I can understand you!

That's interesting, and yes I am from America.

 

It seems you're a victim of censorship, just in the exact opposite way hahah

 

 

 

I've just always found it strange how the human body itself is deemed so unnatural here. I'm curious as to the actual reasoning behind it.. because it influences erotic thoughts..? But then in what ways does watching violence influence us? And how does that compare to watching something sexual?

[Adler]

 

I've just always found it strange how the human body itself is deemed so unnatural here. I'm curious as to the actual reasoning behind it.

Shame? Privacy? Hell if I know. I've always been against censorship nonetheless.

[GrandMaster Smith]

It's funny to think that baby's are born criminals.

 

 

Damn nudists...

 

 

 

 

Being naked really is such a freeing feeling. I find it just plain silly it's illegal to be nude in public. I mean other than the shock value thats been created by the very existence of censorship in the first place, it's completely natural.

 

Tribes all around the world will hang out in the complete nude and nothing weird or repulsive is found about it. It's only because of censorship that we find these things unnatural.

 

So what is this doing towards our acceptance of grotesque violence??

[Trund]

There's also a positive side. If you had more nudity on tv the "quitting porn altogether" thread would be flooded by now.

[GTA_stu]

Nudity isn't censored as much as you're making out. And zombies and violence isn't as accepted as you're making out either. You won't find extreme violence or nudity before the watershed (9pm UK) on TV, but you'll find both uncensored afterwards. Pornography is another matter though, and you won't find that unless you're on the adult channels.

 

Censorship is needed to some degree.Do you really want little 5 year old Johnny to see a bondaged milf getting covered in streams of cum? Because that's when little Johhny become big Johnny, who then becomes big Joannie and is the one being covered in streams of cum by a bunch of other shemales.

 

[Shiva.]

 

I have nipples, you have nipples,

Your's and mine's are boring whereas a women's is not.

 

I think family shows are intented to be watched along with your family, kids and folks, and so I believe censorship is necessary to strip off certain stuff.

 

Say you just watched the first episode of a brand-new TV show and you like it very much, and you decide to share it with your family.

 

The next day when the episode two of that show airs, you call your mom to show it to her and she rushes out of the kitchen to check it out.

 

During the show, the main charcter gets high and orders his bitch to get rid of her clothes. She obeys him and reveals her "what-was-supposed-to-be-censored" part. That particular scene will surely ignite a pretty priceless expression in your mom's face.

 

You don't like the same to happen to you, Do you Grandy?

[Voodoo]

During the show, the main charcter gets high and orders his bitch to get rid of her clothes. She obeys him and reveals her "what-was-supposed-to-be-censored" part. That particular scene will surely ignite a pretty priceless expression in your mom's face.

I would watch the sh*t outta that. Mom's face closeup - the studio audience roars.

 

 

 

 

[Finn 7 five 11]

Meh, who cares, makes the smallest difference, if you want to see tits, go google it.

[Triple Vacuum Seal]

Censorship of nudity is silly. In a broader sense, censorship as a movement is silly. However, there are some rare cases where I endorse the protection of the public from certain information. There is information that the public can not properly process.

[GrandMaster Smith]

 

I have nipples, you have nipples,

Your's and mine's are boring whereas a women's is not.

 

I think family shows are intented to be watched along with your family, kids and folks, and so I believe censorship is necessary to strip off certain stuff.

 

Say you just watched the first episode of a brand-new TV show and you like it very much, and you decide to share it with your family.

 

The next day when the episode two of that show airs, you call your mom to show it to her and she rushes out of the kitchen to check it out.

 

During the show, the main charcter gets high and orders his bitch to get rid of her clothes. She obeys him and reveals her "what-was-supposed-to-be-censored" part. That particular scene will surely ignite a pretty priceless expression in your mom's face.

 

You don't like the same to happen to you, Do you Grandy?

The whole point is we're all well aware of what's behind the blur or black box.. your mother has nipples, I can assure you it wouldn't be the first pair she'd ever seen..

 

The only reason there would even be a shock value is because due to censorship we see nipples and other censored body parts as 'unnatural' or weird in the first place. Do you see how censorship is a self sustaining machine that can dictate what a culture sees as natural and taboo? Why the human body? What's so unnatural about it? Why should we be ashamed of our body parts?

 

And in turn how is this affecting how we view violence? People won't even blink at the scene of a mans brain being blown open, despite how indistinguishable it is to real life. Is this good, is this bad? How will this effect us in real life situations, will the shock be less intense after successive exposure to it on television?

Edited February 16, 2013 by GrandMaster Smith

[Triple Vacuum Seal]

I have nipples, you have nipples,

Your's and mine's are boring whereas a women's is not.

To be fair, several early generations of humans grew up around nude bodies. The only reason you feel that humans have inappropriate parts of their bodies is because somewhere along the line, an institution said so. It's purely a social construct that "Your's and mine's are boring whereas a women's is not." In fact, you only see it that way because you are a male.

 

 

Censoring nudity is silly. Ironically, the unclothed human body is one of the most "natural" objects we'll see. Yet we are told it's wrong.

[GrandMaster Smith]

Just thinking about the entire Hot Coffee ordeal a few years back with San Andreas.. Murdering innocent civilians, driving over bodies, beating people to death, stealing cars, f*cking hookers, stealing money and all the likes is all ok'ed, but as soon as it comes to a (clothed) sex minigame, one of the most natural acts in nature is seen as pushing it too far and ends in the game being pulled from shelves from multiple countries and labeled and Adults Only title..

 

 

Is this not as backwards as thinking can get? Where along the lines did our culture get so bent?

[Clem Fandango]

Not sure why we even see fit to protect children (assuming that's the driving force behind this) from nudity and sex. What damage could seeing a penis or some boobs on TV do to them? For that matter, what damage could seeing an all out, bondage laden, interracial gang bang do to them?

[GrandMaster Smith]

 

Not sure why we even see fit to protect children (assuming that's the driving force behind this) from nudity and sex. What damage could seeing a penis or some boobs on TV do to them? For that matter, what damage could seeing an all out, bondage laden, interracial gang bang do to them?

Pornography is obviously rather different from just nudity itself.

 

I actually saw a video on TED about how pornography is very unhealthy for one's self causing addiction and all that, there are good reasons to keep children from it.

 

I think it would better off if parents themselves properly taught their children about sex and self discipline rather than having some stranger feed them a government supplied worksheet about sexual education.

 

 

 

The main driving force behind this isn't necessarily children though, but more how it conditions the society into thinking what is and isn't natural.. when they begin to tell you that something as natural as the human body is unnatural, yet zombies eating a rotting humans gastrointestinal tract is okay for public viewing I feel there will be a detrimental effect to how it shapes our society and the way people act and react to situations.

 

[Doublepulse]

I can definitely say it has confused the hell out of society on what is appropriate and what is not..Is that the purpose to confuse and manipulate our understanding of what should we be okay with? I really don't know myself.. I would think we would have to go back pretty far to understand the causes of this right?

 

It also irritates me a little when sex and "private parts" are often fabricated and uses silly words for children or some story they can understand. That is already a form of censorship from the parents. The child gets the idea at a young age that saying penis and vagina are a bad thing..Or they say some story on how they were created.. You can only "protect" your children for so long.. But instead of protecting them, how about try and make them understand the differences..

 

Melchior, my sarcasm detector could be off But there is a good amount of damage that could be done to a child for them seeing it. I am sure you already know that . Sex and beauty are definitely being portrayed wrongly through porn..But I think that is because their PARENTS did not make them understand when they were younger.. Instead they use kiddie phrases and stories, so when they finally get a hold of porn at the age of 13-14, they are in shock or amused by it and get the wrong message from it.

[lil weasel]

Censorship has a long history. I first heard of it when reading history regarding the Church persecuting anyone outside the organization trying to learn to read. The idea of ‘laymen’ reading the Bible was abhorrent. If the layman read the Bible he might get ideas ‘different’ from the Dogma perpetrated by the Church. And, they were right. Look at all the wacos spouting the ‘real word of God’.

Then there’s the Pope that went mad and chiseled the penis off the statues at the Vatican, which started the ‘Nude Body’ is a SIN crap. And they just put plaster fig leaves over the spot. A trend we still suffer from today.

 

Most of the World is controlled by the Religious of one sort or another.

Whether it be word or image. Our ‘Postal Inspectors’ got the nod from Congress to sift through private mail to sort out these daemons who send ‘naughty’ stuff.

 

On this Forum, we have the pitiful (lip service) attempt to alter Taboo words by inserting a single asterisk, rather than total removal, which is also totally ignored when posting an image containing the banned word(s).

 

I knew many people that would get angry at the depiction of a ‘love’ scene, yet not say a word about the most violent war or crime scene (‘that’s life’). So what’s the deal in India?

 

Just a few weeks ago a TV News Reader when spastic because the Chase Video of a man being shot down by police hunters was shown. He spent minutes sobbing and apologizing because it was aired.

The Connecticut news didn’t show (or have) any video of paramedics removing the bodies of the kids from the school. They allege it was done in the middle of the night without lights to ‘save the sensibilities of the public’. So that bit of public censorship leads people to wonder, “Did the shooting really occur?”

 

The TV in the late years of the last century would air “Travel Logs” showing various naked African women. Late at night of course. My first introduction to naked women was the National Geographic Magazine. (1958)

The PBS had a nice program on a couple of Amazon tribes. Which for some reason never was rerun after that first season, odd that since they love to rerun everything else.

 

So my view is that Censorship is Tribal, until a Government is made aware by some Religious Cult taking umbrage. The Bible Belt is good for taking a normal natural situation and turning it into Sin.

So not every lonely Housefrau does it with the Milkman, there’s still the Postman.

Personally I dislike the ‘clickity clickity noises they have when kissing in productions. Disgusting eating sounds ‘should be censored”.

So I guesss there is a need for some Censorship, just not when I don't want it.

[Carbonox]

I think censorship is *********** because *********** and ***********. I also think *********** should be ***********.

[Korpi]

 

I think censorship is *********** because *********** and ***********. I also think *********** should be ***********.

 

**** this.

 

 

[GrandMaster Smith]

 

 

God the irony.. hahaha

 

 

 

 

 

 

(copyright isn't exactly censorship.. but still relative lol)

Edited February 16, 2013 by GrandMaster Smith

[Korpi]

That is a bit of irony.

Working fine here were I'm at - didn't know about the content thing in the video, that everyone can't view it.

Oh well, that's some Youtube copyright**** for ya, in this case.

Edited February 16, 2013 by Markwey

[Mister Pink]

I always thought it was sort of funny, the USA's attitude to violence and sex. Endless violence is fine but saying 'f*ck' on the radio or showing a bit of nipple is the end of the world.

[Trund]

I always thought it was sort of funny, the USA's attitude to violence and sex. Endless violence is fine but saying 'f*ck' on the radio or showing a bit of nipple is the end of the world.

Now add the fact that they have the largest porn industry for endless laughter.

[Mister Pink]

I always thought it was sort of funny, the USA's attitude to violence and sex. Endless violence is fine but saying 'f*ck' on the radio or showing a bit of nipple is the end of the world.

Now add the fact that they have the largest porn industry for endless laughter.

Exactly, haha. Maybe someone has a theory on it. It's to 'protect' the kids, right?

[LazlowsucksiloveslutS]

I think that censorship is f*cking pathetic.

When you watch women's tennis, notice how you never get a close-up of a player's ass, the camera seems to zoom out as far as it can when a hot player is about to make her shot.

Luckily there isn't as much censorship in Europe as there is in America.

 

[El Dildo]

the USA's attitude to violence and sex. Endless violence is fine but saying 'f*ck' on the radio or showing a bit of nipple is the end of the world.

this pretty much sums up how backwards our culture is.

 

and yet we wonder why there's so much violent crime in the US.

hello? it's because violence and death are celebrated while love and compassion are viewed as weakness.

 

it's cliche but it's true: the world will not know peace until the power of love overcomes the love of power.

and the US is definitely NOT doing the world any favors in this department by glorifying destruction and shunning intimacy. we have no qualms about showing the most horrific violence in TV and movies and games, but sexuality and intimacy are somehow taboo.

 

it literally makes no sense.

and I think it's a huge reason (one of many) that the US is more violent than other countries. at least on the surface.

 

in a lot of countries, censorship is actually the opposite.

sexuality is cool and extreme violence is censored. this seems to make a lot more sense.