K20 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Daily Mail BBC News Beef products have been 'secretly' swapped with horse meat by suppliers. And also mixed with beef products. It's a big deal to some. But meat is meat right? ... so would you still eat it? Knowing its got horse meat with your beef burger? I for one would, yeah as long as the horse that was killed was clean and healthy... but right now i wont, because its not regulated like cows. They think large sources came from Romania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Repost topic. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Scratch Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 So that's why i didn't see any horses lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispypistonx8 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have no prob eating any animal,that said i HATE the idea of eating (when not necessary) dogs and horses.. idk just think they have a right no other animals have because of the history between them and the human race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remix Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have no prob eating any animal,that said i HATE the idea of eating (when not necessary) dogs and horses.. idk just think they have a right no other animals have because of the history between them and the human race. ???? How about cats? Kangaroos? Elephants? Camels? Fish? Surely all animals have had some form of impact in history in some way. I don't have a problem with eating horse meat, but I definitely think there's some ethical issues if they're not marketing it as horse meat. Heck, label anything incorrectly and you're going to have people pretty pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispypistonx8 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 ^yep can't explain my thought process on the subject just feel it. any beast of burden or hunters aid shouldn't be considered acceptable nutrition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S99 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I would be fine eating it. In fact, I would love to eat it... But not when it is labeld as beef or mixed with beef. I want it roasted or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With the amount of BBQ sauce I use when eating meat I probably wouldn't even be able to taste the difference. I do have a problem with it being mislabeled though, since if I were faced with the choice between horse and cow meat at a supermarket I'd definitely pick the beef. Horse just does not sound appetizing, they're very intelligent creatures and it would just feel kind of weird to eat, like eating a dog or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield 2 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The only problem I have with this issue is that the food was mislabelled. I don't mind eating horse meat, since it's actually very good meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The only problem I have with this issue is that the food was mislabelled. I don't mind eating horse meat, since it's actually very good meat. I doubt that the phenylbutazone in the meat they found is healthy. It's even forbidden for horses that are meant to be butchered, which therefore could mean that they used random horses for the meat. THAT is the actual horrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remix Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 any beast of burden or hunters aid shouldn't be considered acceptable nutrition. So are you a vegetarian then? Cows have been pulling carts for centuries, and are still widely used today in some countries. You could also argue that the fur/feathers that hunters use also aid them. Guess that rules out a lot of animals you will eat. Here's a nifty little link showing how a variety of animals help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield 2 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The only problem I have with this issue is that the food was mislabelled. I don't mind eating horse meat, since it's actually very good meat. I doubt that the phenylbutazone in the meat they found is healthy. It's even forbidden for horses that are meant to be butchered, which therefore could mean that they used random horses for the meat. THAT is the actual horrible thing. Go to LIDL, buy some Frankfurters or Bradwurst, look at the ingredients and tell me how's that sh*t not harmful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The only problem I have with this issue is that the food was mislabelled. I don't mind eating horse meat, since it's actually very good meat. I doubt that the phenylbutazone in the meat they found is healthy. It's even forbidden for horses that are meant to be butchered, which therefore could mean that they used random horses for the meat. THAT is the actual horrible thing. It's not actually proven to be harmful in quantities that small, though. It's proven to cause occasional but severe side effects at theraputic doses in humans (it used to be used in humans) but there's no correlation between the minute doses in animals eaten and the same ill effect. We've probably been eating bute ladened horses for years with no ill effect. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I would be fine eating it. In fact, I would love to eat it... But not when it is labeld as beef or mixed with beef. I want it roasted or something Exactly. I'm not put off by eating horse but I don't like being mislead. Some cases, they were finding 100% horse meat. 𝙼𝚄𝚂𝙸𝙲 𝙽𝙾𝙽 𝚂𝚃𝙾𝙿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan90 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) In Germany they have also found horsemeat in Lasagne. mmh This is the way of the horse meat. (German) Edited February 15, 2013 by Stephan123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 People eat insects and most animals, reptiles, et cetera. Many who don't know what they eat praise it, until their told what it is then they up-chuck/blow chunks. It's mostly 'thought' that turns people off. Seems some place in the world people eat everything they can get. Pure foods and drugs are the important thingy. Having the choice by knowing what's being served is the only difference. Snails? Frog legs? Roaches? Chocolate Ants/bees. PETA will save the world with the help of Mayor Bloomberg's Food Police. The Government employee's know what's good for U.S. Me, I like Kelly's, Steak, Cheeseburgers, Milk shakes, Frenched Fries (chips), Clams, Carbonated Beverages (without the poison Aspertain) Lamb & Port chops with 1/2 inch of fat on the edge. ... and more ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjimino234 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 It is false advertising since it's supposed to be beef so that's wrong but would I care if I ate horse meat in my lasagne? Nah not really, even if it was advertised it as mixed or just horse I wouldn't care. A lot of people are just overly obsessive and concerned about what they eat. I know being misled about the products their paying for .etc is bad marketing wise and to the over consumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I wonder if people realise that pigs are actually much more intelligent than horses, and while probably not as intelligent as dogs, are probably as smart as cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The only problem I have with this issue is that the food was mislabelled. I don't mind eating horse meat, since it's actually very good meat. I doubt that the phenylbutazone in the meat they found is healthy. It's even forbidden for horses that are meant to be butchered, which therefore could mean that they used random horses for the meat. THAT is the actual horrible thing. It's not actually proven to be harmful in quantities that small, though. It's proven to cause occasional but severe side effects at theraputic doses in humans (it used to be used in humans) but there's no correlation between the minute doses in animals eaten and the same ill effect. We've probably been eating bute ladened horses for years with no ill effect. That wasn't my point anyways. Phenylbutazone isn't even banned in Germany (unlike in the UK/France). The thing is that these horses weren't meant to be slaughtered, you have no idea where meat actually came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic_23 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 this is about right these days, you notice when you cook bacon its full of water and sausages are less than 50% pork or something silly like that. I would still eat the burgers and i can bet you would not taste the difference. usually we have fresh burgers from the butchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K20 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 this is about right these days, you notice when you cook bacon its full of water and sausages are less than 50% pork or something silly like that. I would still eat the burgers and i can bet you would not taste the difference. usually we have fresh burgers from the butchers in sausages they tend to put corn and whey protein as well, to bulk it up. a cheap beef burger, is indeed, not 100% beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan90 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 For all those who like to eat cat meat. http://www.alertadigital.com/2013/02/14/su...-gran-cuchillo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjeem Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 As long as it's not dog meat, any meat is good for this grizzly bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username.gta Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not really fussed about horses, all they do is eat and sh*t, don't mind eating them. Although other's are freaking out, my sister works at Morrisons, a supermarket here in the UK, and she says that the shop has been busier than ever, mainly people buying meat products. Even the expensive places like Waitrose have been caught out as well. (Although with pork, not horse meat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Are a cow and a horse really that different? I don't mind eating a horse, I do however mind being lied to, if it had been marketed as horse I probably would have bought some. I do find this very surprising though, I would have thought a horse would be far more expensive than a cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Not really fussed about horses, all they do is eat and sh*t, don't mind eating them. Although other's are freaking out, my sister works at Morrisons, a supermarket here in the UK, and she says that the shop has been busier than ever, mainly people buying meat products. Even the expensive places like Waitrose have been caught out as well. (Although with pork, not horse meat) Man you should watch some of the highest ranked horse competition's, horse's are anything but dumb animals that just sit and sh*t. Personally I have a hard time believing any animal is truly 'dumb'.. Some may not be as smart as others but all creatures seem to show a rather impressive level of intelligence. I'm by no means a vegan b ut if I really had the choice in the matter I probably would be. Plants are just more appealing, if a mere pound of almonds/cashews/pistachios didn't cost $10 I'd be buying that over meat any day. It's just simply too expensive to eat how I wish I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Been in school dinners as well apparently. Don't get how this managed to go unnoticed for so long, and it's been found in loads of different countries too, all across Europe. I feel bad for the horse lovers, unwittingly eating the things they love. It's like that episode of Southpark where Catman feeds the kid's dead parents to him, but if they were horses. I've no doubt that I've probably eaten some horse, but it doesn't really bother me. It's the mistrust that bothers me, how many other animals have been used? Probably been a few goats that have made their way down my lower intestine. Maybe the odd hamster in the chicken nuggets, but then I've never eaten chicken nuggets, but they probably put chicken nuggets in my beef burger, well, horse burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yeah I'm just more curious as to how they actually managed to get so much horse meat mixed with the beef.. like seriously how does a f*ck up that big go unnoticed for so long..? It reminds me of how tylenol(Bayer) had a massive amount of their product infected with HIV/AIDS in the 80's.. so instead of dumping it all and losing money they covered their secret (with the help of the FDA) and infected and killed thousands with virus. Profit and money alone drives people to do some really f*ckED up things.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loch Dawg Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Probably not, I imagine that horse meat would be rather lean so after cooking it it'd get pretty dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I have never (knowingly) eaten horse meat, but I wouldn't mind trying it. My guess is that it wouldn't be as good as beef though (since a horse is usually more muscular than fat). Still, anybody that false advertises deserves to step on a Lego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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