DarrinPA Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm just wondering if Hollywood is writing their scripts about this guy. you know they are. R* probably would have used this story in GTA V if they hadn't written their story about three protags that want money... again. Well, all GTA protagonists want money. V is the first one to center around heists. But anyway... Didn't R* say it was based on the idea of Three Leaf Clover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyth Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I just read he just got charged with murder. So I'm guessing they must have caught him. There's also a 14,000 word manifesto he wrote, naming targets, and he blamed asians, lesbians, etc. He may or may not be faced with the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Rare, yes, but in this case, cops shot up cars they mistook for Dorner's two separate times. Professionalism at its finest, isn't it? I assure you if they had actually killed someone by accident it would be a scandal. While it may not be a cover up, cops clearly have each others' backs, and if you don't, then well, you end up like Dorner. Trying to report a fellow officer may have been what got him fired after all. but they didn't kill anyone. it was an honest mistake. sh*t happens. it's a non-issue. it's not a scandal or a cover up. you're really barking up the wrong tree here... I just read he just got charged with murder. So I'm guessing they must have caught him. they haven't caught him yet. he's still on the run. they only announced that he is being formally charged with murder (3 felony counts) so that - in case he is captured in another state or country - he can be returned to LA and prosecuted locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Cops are supposed to be trained professionals while upholding the law. Should we not hold them to that standard? I'm actually baffled that you don't find it an issue at all when cops could have potentially killed innocent people for an "honest mistake." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Should we not hold them to that standard? but we DO hold them to that standard. every day. all the time. whenever an accident like that occurs, the incident is investigated by the department and the responsible officers are dealt with. it is always taken on a case-by-case basis. many police officers have been fired by their department for mistakes similar to this. in this particular case, the LAPD didn't feel it was necessary to fire the officers responsible, but place them on administrative leave. no one was killed. and you have to remember; when the incident occurred cops all over LA were in a state of fear and panic because the murders had just started. all of a sudden, they were being told that someone (a former cop himself) was on the loose and hunting them down. all they knew is that he was driving a Toyota Tundra, was armed and extremely dangerous. so a couple of cops got way too anxious and made a poor mistake... which could have been a lot worse. I'm not excusing what they did. it was wrong. it was foolish. but sh*t happens! oh well! you know? what are you gonna' do? what do you want? strip them of their badge, march them down the street in their underwear, and throw tomatoes at them? this is not a scandal. this is not a very big deal. I'm actually baffled that you don't find it an issue at all when cops could have potentially killed innocent people for an "honest mistake." your odds of accidentally being killed by a police officer are worse than being struck by lighting relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 I see where you're coming from now. They be damned if it happens again and kill someone by mistake though. I'm actually baffled that you don't find it an issue at all when cops could have potentially killed innocent people for an "honest mistake." your odds of accidentally being killed by a police officer are worse than being struck by lighting relax. I'd rather have controllable deaths kept to a minimum, k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Nixon Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 your odds of accidentally being killed by a police officer are worse than being struck by lighting relax. You can't possibly be serious. While clearly a hyperbolic statement in a facetious manner, you still can't be serious. If you're already talking like 'mistakes happen! no big deal! sh*t happens!'etc. then your argument is loosely based on officers being human like the rest of us; ergo, a police officer is not some supernatural overman meaning he is also capable of mistakes. As for your 'investigated by the department' cannonball; well, what good is it when it is a flawed crooked system? It's obvious cops watch over other cops and they'd sooner lie for a cop than tell the truth for a criminal (in most cases), but there are some anomalies like Dorner, for example. In all honesty, you sound a bit naive. While it's delirious to say this whole situation is black-and-white and one-sided, it's the same kind of delirious to try and protect corruption and idiocy. 'honest mistake,' now that's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You can't possibly be serious. While clearly a hyperbolic statement in a facetious manner, you still can't be serious. If you're already talking like 'mistakes happen! no big deal! sh*t happens!'etc. then your argument is loosely based on officers being human like the rest of us; ergo, a police officer is not some supernatural overman meaning he is also capable of mistakes. As for your 'investigated by the department' cannonball; well, what good is it when it is a flawed crooked system? It's obvious cops watch over other cops and they'd sooner lie for a cop than tell the truth for a criminal (in most cases), but there are some anomalies like Dorner, for example. In all honesty, you sound a bit naive. While it's delirious to say this whole situation is black-and-white and one-sided, it's the same kind of delirious to try and protect corruption and idiocy. 'honest mistake,' now that's funny. blah blah blah blah. I'm done with this. I don't care enough to argue with you. the incident of accidentally shooting at those 2 women is really not a big deal. you can think it's a big deal and get all pissy about it. you're allowed to have that opinion. but don't be surprised when the rest of the world moves on with their lives and leaves you standing there crying on the corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Nixon Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You can't possibly be serious. While clearly a hyperbolic statement in a facetious manner, you still can't be serious. If you're already talking like 'mistakes happen! no big deal! sh*t happens!'etc. then your argument is loosely based on officers being human like the rest of us; ergo, a police officer is not some supernatural overman meaning he is also capable of mistakes. As for your 'investigated by the department' cannonball; well, what good is it when it is a flawed crooked system? It's obvious cops watch over other cops and they'd sooner lie for a cop than tell the truth for a criminal (in most cases), but there are some anomalies like Dorner, for example. In all honesty, you sound a bit naive. While it's delirious to say this whole situation is black-and-white and one-sided, it's the same kind of delirious to try and protect corruption and idiocy. 'honest mistake,' now that's funny. blah blah blah blah. I'm done with this. I don't care enough to argue with you. the incident of accidentally shooting at those 2 women is really not a big deal. you can think it's a big deal and get all pissy about it. you're allowed to have that opinion. but don't be surprised when the rest of the world moves on with their lives and leaves you standing there crying on the corner... Hahaha, this guy right here! I'm not even crying about this. I just read what example and comparison you used and thought it was foolish so I replied to that. Next time I shoot up a car because I fear for my life and think the person that wants to kill me might be in that car I sure hope I get paid leave and not a jail sentence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not even crying about this. call it what you want. but you sound pretty offended. you're saying that this a "cannonball," a "flawed crooked system," and "corruption and idiocy." I think you're seriously overreacting. that's all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Nixon Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not even crying about this. call it what you want. but you sound pretty offended. you're saying that this a "cannonball," a "flawed crooked system," and "corruption and idiocy." I think you're seriously overreacting. that's all there is to it. I used cannonball as a fancy, slightly poetic replacement for argument because A: I really want people on this forum to think I'm a clever person that's better than them, and B: because I goddamn can, whoop-dee-doo! And I don't see how pointing out obvious flaws in the system we live in - unless you're seriously suggesting you live in some flawless utopia carved out of perfect wood - means someone is angry or offended or upset or crying. By your own malformed logic, anyone even arguing about these things on a forum is crying. If you check back, you had a fairly lengthy post in this thread. Gee, ya little crybaby! By the way, I thought you were done arguing with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 well yes I'm done arguing about the 'friendly-fire' incident. it's a non-issue and it really gets us nowhere in this topic. you're free to continue believing whatever you want about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 but they didn't kill anyone.it was an honest mistake. sh*t happens. it's a non-issue. Ever since the riots and the Rampart Scandal the LAPD has been under much scrutiny. The U.S. Department of Justice had to oversee and monitor reforms within the LAPD until 2005 - that's almost 20 years after the start of the problems in 1987. This is a direct quote from the Christopher Commission "There is a significant number of officers in the LAPD who repetitively use excessive force against the public and persistently ignore the written guidelines of the department regarding force.". This has been an on-going problem, not an honest mistake. They have to have a reason to shoot, just because they thought it was the suspects car doesn't give them that right. Even if it WAS the suspects car - he would have to be doing something that made them feel as if their lives were in danger otherwise they simply have to take him in peacefully if he doesn't resist. These innocent bystanders that were shot at will probably sue the LAPD and the City, more than likely ending in a undisclosed out-of-court settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 well yes I'm done arguing about the 'friendly-fire' incident.it's a non-issue and it really gets us nowhere in this topic. you're free to continue believing whatever you want about it. Hey, hear that everyone, El_Diablo says it's a non-issue... Move on, nothing to see here. Case closed QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydraulicWaRiOr Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 The president is allowed to kill citizens, there's a black Jason Bourne on the loose and North Korea is pretty anxious about bombarding everything. I wonder if those Mayans forgot to carry the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baguvix_wanrltw Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Fun statistic on the side: German police officers fired a total of 87 shots in the entire year (!) of 2011. When some dude decided one day to go kill his ex boss in the Empire State Building the police fired 94 (!) shots and injured 9 civilians trying to get to him. The only person the guy killed was his boss, the civilians were all victims of the "police". So much for excessive force - and police qualifications. To put it in the words of one of the greatest lyrical geniuses of our time: f*ck da police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S5L3T0 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Its obviously not the main point of the case, but to dismiss it as a non-issue because 'what can we do anyway' is naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Apparently Dorner is in or was in a gunfight after breaking into a house in Big Bear and tying up the residents before stealing their truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 I suppose he's finished now since one man can only do so much. Is there any connection with the residents of the house to Dorner or the LAPD or did he just need to acquire transportation? Everything that happened so far doesn't seem to fit together. Dorner allegedly stole a boat and also purchased scuba gear, but instead he winds up in Big Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I don't think that Dorner has any connection to the couple he tied up, he just stole their truck, and eventually they got themselves loose and called the police. It's also said that one or two San Bernardino county sheriff deputies have been shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 So is Dorner inside the cabin? Or has he escaped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) That's what they're saying. Someone threw out a smoke grenade it looked like, but nothing happened. Holy sh*t! I know that place! I used to go camping every Labor Day near that area. Edited February 12, 2013 by darthYENIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACR Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Let's celebrate in hope he will kill more with one good old classic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killa Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 So is Dorner inside the cabin? Or has he escaped? He's in there. Apparently. Let's celebrate in hope he will kill more with one good old classic: 2edgy4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Holy sh*t! I know that place! I used to go camping every Labor Day near that area. I've been to Big Bear a couple times near the lake and up a mountain once. Don't think I've been to where the firefight took place though lol. I believe this is the location on Google Maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If he's still hold up in the cabin than I think his reign of terror is nearing it's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm hearing on the news that the burned truck that police found earlier had a broken axle, which may have forced Dorner to go on foot and look for new transportation. Might have been what led him to this situation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Holy sh*t! I know that place! I used to go camping every Labor Day near that area. I've been to Big Bear a couple times near the lake and up a mountain once. Don't think I've been to where the firefight took place though lol. I believe this is the location on Google Maps. Yeah, just to the northwest of that pinpoint there is the 7 Oaks Mountain Cabins, and those are the cabins he is in. I used to go camping down that road at the 7 oaks resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Let's see if Chocolate Rambo can get himself out of this one. Live Feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 One of the wounded deputies is being reported as dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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