EscoLehGo Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 @EscoLehGo: Yeah that, and it made sense. Is it not interesting to peer into the mind of a fugitive to know what he is thinking? Gives you a better understanding to put yourself in his shoes. Sure it's interesting, but I'd be more inclined to read the manifestos of Adam Lanza and James Holmes out of sheer morbid curiosity rather than this guy who has somehow become a misguided, Twitter folk hero. His running about like Rambo and claiming to be on some bizarre war against the police is really annoying, it's like a cheesy Michael Bay movie except people are actually dying through out it. Also, are there any details on why and how he murdered his ex-attorney's daughter and her fiance? I haven't seen anything so far other than he killed them. Then why even come post? To show your superiority over people who are interested? Personally, I think this is much more interesting than the dime-a-dozen anti-social murderer who will pull the trigger on a kid. But hey, that's just my opinion. Cool man and I posted mine, that's what topics like these are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRB Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I just read his manifesto and firmly believe that this man is suffering from some mental illness.That he is inhuman enough to write to the children of the cops he plans to kill that 'your dad was a tyrant and deserved to die' is one thing, but then he starts rambling about The Walking Dead and makes numerous references to The Hangover III. It's a disjointed, bizarre mess and I feel it represents the workings of a mind that is far removed from all sane reasoning. He does not seem to realise the gravity of his actions. If he did, he wouldn't start discussing TV shows and talk show hosts right after declaring that he was going to kill cops both on the streets and in their homes. You I don't think he's got any mental problems. I think that he's lost all hope for what he believes in and everybody around him in his life, and wants to go out with a bang, and hopefully have his name remembered instead of forgotten. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I mean, killing cops is wrong, but what can someone take away from a man who's lost everything he's ever wanted and worked for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loman Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 If he targeted only the officers who wronged him, I could understand. If he only went after police officers, I could understand. But he killed innocent family members, so f*ck this guy, and f*ck his 'name' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I really hope this doesn't inspire copycat incidents when other cops get fired or feel as though they've been treated poorly. The rebels without a cause who say "f*ck the police" are probably looking at this guy as a hero right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Nixon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) I like this guy. EDIT: ''Westboro Baptist Church, may you all burn slowly in a fire, not from smoke inhalation, but from the flames and only the flames.'' Haha. Edited February 9, 2013 by Dale Nixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple Vacuum Seal Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The police have given me so much sh*t. I've seen so many people get shafted by the police for sh*t that shouldn't even be illegal in the first place. I hate to admit it because there are a lot of brave cops who lay their lives on the line; but it's hard to feel sorry for dead cops. "shut up, sit down, relax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 you know, this man MIGHT have had a legitimate issue. the side of the story that he tells in the manifesto MIGHT be accurate. he could very well be telling the truth and - since it's the LAPD - I'm even willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. unfortunately... he gave up all credibility the moment he started murdering innocent people. if you want us to hear your story and consider you honestly, you probably shouldn't start by murdering cops and their family members. that tends to put a damper on the sympathy we might have had for your situation at this point he'll get no compassion from me. I hope they catch him soon or I hope he dies before causing harm to anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Nixon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The police have given me so much sh*t. I've seen so many people get shafted by the police for sh*t that shouldn't even be illegal in the first place. I hate to admit it because there are a lot of brave cops who lay their lives on the line; but it's hard to feel sorry for dead cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) you know, this man MIGHT have had a legitimate issue.the side of the story that he tells in the manifesto MIGHT be accurate. he could very well be telling the truth and - since it's the LAPD - I'm even willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. unfortunately... he gave up all credibility the moment he started murdering innocent people. if you want us to hear your story and consider you honestly, you probably shouldn't start by murdering cops and their family members. that tends to put a damper on the sympathy we might have had for your situation at this point he'll get no compassion from me. I hope they catch him soon or I hope he dies before causing harm to anyone else. Agree with this 100% It's really unfortunate he had to go on a killing spree. After reading through his manifest, he seemed like a decent guy (not including the death threats). It's a shame really. He had the potential to be a hero, but he blew it. Seems to me like he just doesn't care how he preserves his legacy at this point. I'm not saying the LAPD are saints by the way. All of this is their fault. Edited February 10, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 What I want to know is why the fact that LAPD "finest" shot up a car with two women without warning during this manhunt isn't all over the news. I honestly think it's a bigger deal than a murderer on the loose. There is always somebody out to kill somebody else. But when several policemen, that you expect to be protecting you from that sort of thing, instead shoot at a civilian car that doesn't even match description of suspect's car without any sort of warning, firing something like 60 rounds, wounding the two women inside, and managing to hit several houses and at least one other car in the process, and then the police chief waves it off as a case of mistaken identity, I think that's worth discussing. I do not agree with Dorner's actions, but when chief of LAPD police is protecting officers who committed such clearly criminal acts, I do not doubt for a moment that Dorner's accusations could easily be true. That system cannot be anything but rotten with people like that in charge. Dorner will get caught. Most likely executed on the spot by these who catch him without a chance for trial. If he goes to trial, he'll go to prison like he deserves. The big question is if that's when we forget about the whole thing, leaving people who think it's ok to shoot at a car without positive identification or warning? Or will something actually change? Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRB Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I don't think they have a chance at apprehending him. The guy sounds like he's ready to die before anything else since he has nothing to live for. I figure if they do corner dorner( ), he's going to go down guns blazing. I figure he'll either keep attacking police, or the police will find him and he, and atleast one other officer will probably be killed... or he'll try and hide, or leave the country and everyone will forget about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 What I want to know is why the fact that LAPD "finest" shot up a car with two women without warning during this manhunt isn't all over the news. I honestly think it's a bigger deal than a murderer on the loose. lol. what are you talking about? it WAS all over the news. NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the BBC, and Fox (and that's just TV news) each reported about the incident you are referring to (the 2 women in the blue truck). they also reported on the handful of other similar incidents that you didn't mention; the 2 women were not the only time this happened. they reported all of these things and they talked about it more than once. everyone has been asking how these officers could have made such a dangerous mistake when the truck they were firing at was not even the same color as Dorner's truck. it's definitely being discussed by the news, I'm not sure why you are saying otherwise... chief of LAPD police is protecting officers who committed such clearly criminal acts you're also overreacting here. that's not really the case. it's not a "criminal act" to accidentally shoot at a suspected criminal. it's unfortunate and it needs to be looked into. and after the necessary investigation, there has to be penalties for the officers involved. but this is not a "criminal" scandal or something that the chief of police is trying to hide or cover up. that's a little bit of a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield 2 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I support the guy. He's had enough and is taking the matter into his own hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) it's not a "criminal act" to accidentally shoot at a suspected criminal. It is, actually, if it is done without positive identification or giving proper warning. Even of Dorner was in that car, the officers that fired acted illegally. The fact that the car wasn't even similar-looking or that it had two women in it, one elderly, neither anywhere near the same weight, clearly tells you that police didn't even bother approaching close enough to be able to issue a warning before opening fire on the vehicle. Furthermore, according to the officers, the vehicle was coming at them. Why is the back of the vehicle riddled with bullets? Why are there other vehicles and property riddled with bullets, when police are supposed to be trained not to endanger other people in the area. Discharging firearms in that situation was against the police protocol and, more importantly, unlawful. it WAS all over the news. It was mentioned. Along with other incidents. This should be the central point of this entire discussion. I support the guy. He's had enough and is taking the matter into his own hands.None of the people he killed are directly responsible for what happened to him. Even if he only killed police officers, I could maybe sympathize, given the above. But he has murdered at least one civilian not related to this in any way except by blood relation. That's why he has to be caught and brought to justice. Edited February 10, 2013 by K^2 Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) My guess is that the cops who fired on those two civilian vehicles need Dorner dead. He's probably got some juicy info on them or things they've been doing. Crooked cops hang with crooked cops. They're afraid he's going to oust them if he is apprehended so they want to shoot him first. I hope they catch him alive and he rats on all of them. Edited February 10, 2013 by ryuclan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Again, did he address in his manifesto why he killed the daughter of his ex-attorney and her fiancé? What was that all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ha wow, I can't believe the cops opened fire on another random truck. It's amazing how these a**holes don't get tried for felony reckless endangerment (amongst other things). It's good no one has been killed by these cops though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy455 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Im getting rambo overtones from this. Yeah, but like Rambo 2.0 Chocolate Rambo "Don't eat it, don't eat it! Or I'll give you a noughaty war you won't believe." Mmmm, Chocolate Rambo. Personally the whole thing doesn't make sense. I wouldn't believe either side's story on this. "I might have laughed if I'd have remembered how." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 The Mayor of Los Angeles has offered a $1 million reward for info the leads to the apprehension of Dorner. Here comes a hundred more "sightings". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 $1 Million? Of his personal cash or the city's? [if it's the city's] Where in the city budget is $1 million being unused to just give away that much cash? There are far worse offenders out there that have never had that much money offered for their capture. This story is getting stranger by the day. Whenever a cop is killed the whole city has to suffer with cops running on high emotions and acting poorly because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I<3GTAV Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It's been a few days, he could be on the East Coast by now. He's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It's been a few days, he could be on the East Coast by now. He's gone. But why would he simply leave when he promised to wage a 'war' against the LAPD? Why go to the effort of making this elaborate declaration of war against the police force if you just chicken out and run away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) I doubt he'd flee without following through with the rest of his plans. He sure got a lot of cops worked up though. --- $1 Million? Of his personal cash or the city's? [if it's the city's] Where in the city budget is $1 million being unused to just give away that much cash? There are far worse offenders out there that have never had that much money offered for their capture. This story is getting stranger by the day. Whenever a cop is killed the whole city has to suffer with cops running on high emotions and acting poorly because of it. Police officers associations and law enforcement departments in Long Beach, San Diego, Irvine and Riverside are among the donors to the reward. The list also includes USC President Max Nikias, the Dodgers, AEG, the Safer CA Foundation, the Orange County Crimestoppers and six anonymous donors. From LA Times --- The LAPD has also reopened the case that led to Dorner's firing. Edited February 11, 2013 by Adler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Damn I Dont think this sh*t could get any fishier. One millions dollars, not for his capture but for info. He f*cked up. Now not only are hundreds if not thousands of "tips" are going to start coming in anyone with half a brain is going to question why this is so important to him. Instill stand by my initial impression. I think Dorne knows far too much about the crooked ass LAPD and they want him dead asap. I'm starting to question whether he himself actually did kill these people or even write that manifesto. sh*t is getting real, where's the independent news sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It's been a few days, he could be on the East Coast by now. He's gone. But why would he simply leave when he promised to wage a 'war' against the LAPD? Why go to the effort of making this elaborate declaration of war against the police force if you just chicken out and run away? It's honestly a good way to throw them off your trail. Make it seem like you're determined to get to one place and instead never go there. Thanks Adler, but this part.... law enforcement departments in Long Beach, San Diego, Irvine and Riverside are among the donors to the reward Again I wonder if it's the officer's donations or if it's from their annnual budget? Because it would seem as if they are more concerned about one criminal at the cost of being able to afford the same treatment of all criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) It's been a few days, he could be on the East Coast by now. He's gone. But why would he simply leave when he promised to wage a 'war' against the LAPD? Why go to the effort of making this elaborate declaration of war against the police force if you just chicken out and run away? Perhaps he is using gorilla warfare? Attacks, runs, hides, then attacks again later? As for the $1,000,000... that's pretty crazy. Edited February 11, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 it WAS all over the news. It was mentioned. Along with other incidents. This should be the central point of this entire discussion. that should NOT be the central point of the entire discussion you're overreacting to a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Thanks Adler, but this part.... law enforcement departments in Long Beach, San Diego, Irvine and Riverside are among the donors to the reward Again I wonder if it's the officer's donations or if it's from their annnual budget? Because it would seem as if they are more concerned about one criminal at the cost of being able to afford the same treatment of all criminals. I'm pretty sure each officer contributed since the article says they are donors. You're probably right about the police being more concerned about this particular criminal as opposed to others though. They've mobilized a ton of police to search for Dorner and to protect the individuals named in his manifesto. No common thief or burglar would garner the amount of attention that a cop-killer who threatens further killing of officers has. @Diablo: Those cops endangered the lives of innocents who had no connection to Dorner besides having the misfortune of being mistaken for him. It's still an issue that should not be overlooked. What if the same sloppy, antsy cops actually kill someone next time? Edited February 11, 2013 by Adler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Christopher Dorner is the hero America deserves- but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him, because he can take it- because he's not our hero, he's our silent guardian, our watchful protector, our dark knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Christopher Dorner is the hero America deserves- but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him, because he can take it- because he's not our hero, he's our silent guardian, our watchful protector, our dark knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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