jregi1 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 If you've ever tried to drift a corner in gta IV and found that you cant hold enough power because Niko missed a shift and the engine just revved out for a while allowing the car to regain traction and ruin your fun, you know my pain. My best guess is that this is a little feature R* added to give it a little realism, as the same sort of thing happened after a crash some times, does anyone else hate it and think it should be removed? I am all for manual transmission with a clutch as an option at anytime in the game from the start menu, but at the very least I'd like to see the revving out of gear mid shift feature removed, it annoys the piss out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Santos County Sheriff Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 You DO know this isnt Grand Theft Forza, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Malo94 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Theres already a topic that this would have fit perfectly in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jregi1 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 You DO know this isnt Grand Theft Forza, right? its not grand theft prevention police operations and law enforcement either m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNero Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 It was possible in GTA4. But still the handling was crap cause it was more floating than everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jregi1 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 It was possible in GTA4. But still the handling was crap cause it was more floating than everything else What was possible in 4? Yeah thank god they've changed the handling to be more racing game like, hopefully its not crappy arcade like, but if its more like a racing game why not gears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ermac_ Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Maybe its just you but I could handle every car perfectly. This is done by slamming the handbrake and reverse at a certain distance before any turn. Sucks they are going to change it for v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jregi1 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Maybe its just you but I could handle every car perfectly. This is done by slamming the handbrake and reverse at a certain distance before any turn. Sucks they are going to change it for v. oh trust me i can drift in that game im just saying it could be improved, the cars dont hold power well enough where they should, its non debatable they just dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ermac_ Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 from your original post you claim cars cant shift properly, I can shift every car perfectly except for a few that arnt meant to shift like a sports car in the game such as trucks or even some station wagons which still can shift, however each car shifts differently so what are you complaining about? just you faster cars if you cant handle other cars well. I prefer to use all cars because some have benefits while driving such as bigger cars being able to slam other cars out the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fail_At_GTA Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Why does everyone complain about the driving in GTA 4? Seriously, its not hard to drift a corner. Protip: you dont drift by turning corners at 200mph without touching the breaks or handbreak. You drift by tapping the breaks and handbreak at the same time before you turn. I disagree with adding gears to the game. If its not broken, dont fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezarawcks Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Just want to make sure OP knows that Niko doesn't control the car......we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivalavendredi Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Most of the cars in the US are run automatic and have no gears to shift through. Maybe the racing / sports cars have of course but I don't see how this would add anything than anger to the gameplay. They said they've fixed the cars handling in V. And thats good enough. In the old days (80s) I always hated games where you had to shift the gears. Now I'm fine with that in racing games, but I don't wanna see it in V. Not even as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ana Belial Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Drifting is slow as sh*t anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmi0 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Yeah good luck on shifting gears using clutch while chasing cars and shooting bad guys. Don't get me wrong I'm a hard core simulator racer, but this is GTA not iRacing. All I need is the possibility to rev your engine while not moving and some tire burning & drifting. In my opinion those are already pretty well covered in GTA IV. No gears thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Just want to make sure OP knows that Niko doesn't control the car......we do. LOL, just what I was thinking. A bad driver blames his avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfa Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 gtaiv had bad handling yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98 in 1 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 gtaiv had bad handling yes. Uh, no. GTA IV didn't have perfect handling like some people claim, but it absolutely had the best handling in any free roam game to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennethMBB Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 To the people thinking Forza is just a drifting game. >.> Its a driving simulator far less superior to GT5. Arcadey feeling, but still is somewhat a driving simulator. Now GTAIV was a tug boat simulator. The actual tug boat in IV handled better then 75% of the cars in game. That being said, I don't understand why any of you want the tug boat feel and not a more realistic driving experience? Are you that incapable of driving with more realistic handling? Laying rubber down like its meant to be and sliding around a corner like a real car would or even flipping onto the roof and staying there. Its why I play GTA on the PC. Able to mod the handling and give it more realistic driving and damage. Second note to the people wanting faster cars and more power. I don't think Rockstar is able to do that with current gen consoles because if you go to fast in the game, it will have loading issues trying to keep up. Most likely the reason IV was capped so horribly with its topend speed. Less power means less drifting around a corner and thats why it always lost its puff. I still laugh at the people wanting the III era driving handling back. It was good then, but damn after playing with actual driving simulators, the III era feels like that crazy taxi series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAZEL Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 gtaiv had bad handling yes. Bad? Not in the slightest. There's room for improvement, sure, but I at least loved IV's driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Splinter Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 You can drift but your car bogs down and you lose all your speed half way through the turn. In racing games your able to drift easier or better because you can turn off things like traction control or stability control which prevents this. In GTA IV, It seems like both traction and stability control are always on so you need a overpowered car to compensate this and really force the car to power-slide which still doesn't really help. Rain helps out a little bit but you still don't get that good drift like you would in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I've never tried it (didn't want to total a car) but it's supposed to be a bitch doing a controlled power slide in real life. It should obviously be easier in GTA V, but it should still take practice. Just like you had to learn to control the "tugboats" in IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Let me clear this up for you all. GTA IV doesn't have drifting. It's not drifting. It's powersliding. Drifting is where you maintain a long steady drift through the whole corner which is impossible with vanilla IV handling. Also, IV's driving wasn't "tug boat" like at all if you drive properly. You guys are stuck in the III-era, expecting to max a corner by driving to it on the middle of the road and slamming the handbrake. That's your problem. You need to take corners properly and at speed, and it doesn't feel "tug boat" like; the cars turn quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukkles Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) Let me clear this up for you all. GTA IV doesn't have drifting. It's not drifting. It's powersliding. Drifting is where you maintain a long steady drift through the whole corner which is impossible with vanilla IV handling. Also, IV's driving wasn't "tug boat" like at all if you drive properly. You guys are stuck in the III-era, expecting to max a corner by driving to it on the middle of the road and slamming the handbrake. That's your problem. You need to take corners properly and at speed, and it doesn't feel "tug boat" like; the cars turn quite a bit. IV does have drifting. You need to keep at least one wheel spinning and smoking while going around the corner. Not all cars can do it in IV, maybe this is were your not seeing it, there are specific drifting cars that are able to do it. It's not something that can just be done, you have to conciously think about what your doing. There's a massive difference between drifting and power sliding. Also every cars suspension is boat like. A car should not lean as far as they do in IV. This may seem like I'm ragging on it, but I love the driving AND DRIFTING in IV. Edited February 7, 2013 by Chukkles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jregi1 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 you are all pretty f*cking simple, i know how to slide a car in gta 4 and judging from your responses none of you are able to notice that the cars do stay out of gear at times and rev and no power is put to the wheels, this can be combated by letting off the accelerator and putting it back on but by that time you have lost all the power that was maintaining the slide in the first place, also a well trained monkey could pick that each car in the game has a manual transmission but the shifting is controlled by the game, if only i still had an xbox and live, i would show all of you how its done, but i dont unfortunately, but when i do i will let you guys know. play the f*cking game hand brake into a corner accelerate and you will eventually hear the cars engine hit limiter for an extended period of time before it shifts into gear, it happens more with low end cars than high end ones, but it still happens none the less. all i am saying is that it could be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 IV had perfect handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukkles Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 you are all pretty f*cking simple, i know how to slide a car in gta 4 and judging from your responses none of you are able to notice that the cars do stay out of gear at times and rev and no power is put to the wheels, this can be combated by letting off the accelerator and putting it back on but by that time you have lost all the power that was maintaining the slide in the first place, also a well trained monkey could pick that each car in the game has a manual transmission but the shifting is controlled by the game, if only i still had an xbox and live, i would show all of you how its done, but i dont unfortunately, but when i do i will let you guys know. play the f*cking game hand brake into a corner accelerate and you will eventually hear the cars engine hit limiter for an extended period of time before it shifts into gear, it happens more with low end cars than high end ones, but it still happens none the less. all i am saying is that it could be improved. You're not understanding that everyone here that KNOWS how to drift knows what you just said and fully understands it. It's the folk who cant drift that don't understand it. Yet you think it's acceptable to alienate and entire forum of members by calling us all simple, yet your the one who doesn't understand. GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I literally just played GTA IV and Sleeping Dogs back to back and wow it gave me a new appreciation for how good the physics are in GTA IV. It's not that the physics in Sleeping Dogs are "bad", but they do feel hand holding like the majority of sandbox games. The thing I've always loved about GTA IV's is they're so unforgiving and really do punish a sh*t driver. Alot of the other games feel like you have to try hard to f*ck up. In GTA IV it only takes a small mistake and you've just taken out a few street lights. It's rewarding when you practice enough and learn it's not going to guide you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I literally just played GTA IV and Sleeping Dogs back to back and wow it gave me a new appreciation for how good the physics are in GTA IV. It's not that the physics in Sleeping Dogs are "bad", but they do feel hand holding like the majority of sandbox games. The thing I've always loved about GTA IV's is they're so unforgiving and really do punish a sh*t driver. Alot of the other games feel like you have to try hard to f*ck up. In GTA IV it only takes a small mistake and you've just taken out a few street lights. It's rewarding when you practice enough and learn it's not going to guide you. Yeah, that's what I love about IV's handling aswel.. Take this video. One minor f*ck up and the guy's already screwed for the rest of the race. It makes you concentrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GTA Guy Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Let me clear this up for you all. GTA IV doesn't have drifting. It's not drifting. It's powersliding. Drifting is where you maintain a long steady drift through the whole corner which is impossible with vanilla IV handling. Also, IV's driving wasn't "tug boat" like at all if you drive properly. You guys are stuck in the III-era, expecting to max a corner by driving to it on the middle of the road and slamming the handbrake. That's your problem. You need to take corners properly and at speed, and it doesn't feel "tug boat" like; the cars turn quite a bit. IV does have drifting. You need to keep at least one wheel spinning and smoking while going around the corner. Not all cars can do it in IV, maybe this is were your not seeing it, there are specific drifting cars that are able to do it. It's not something that can just be done, you have to conciously think about what your doing. There's a massive difference between drifting and power sliding. Also every cars suspension is boat like. A car should not lean as far as they do in IV. This may seem like I'm ragging on it, but I love the driving AND DRIFTING in IV. Yeah, but you can't drift properly. You can easily powerslide but not properly drift because it always changes the gear in the wrong time. And to the guy who said that the cars lack power - no they don't. There's cars that look sh*tty but has V6/V8 under the hood and damn they do great burnout, so they do have horsepower and torque, but the proplem is that if you shift just before the drift or in the middle of the drift, the engine loses the power and wheels stop spinning, causing the drift to end. In the end, drifting is NOT possible in IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jregi1 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 you are all pretty f*cking simple, i know how to slide a car in gta 4 and judging from your responses none of you are able to notice that the cars do stay out of gear at times and rev and no power is put to the wheels, this can be combated by letting off the accelerator and putting it back on but by that time you have lost all the power that was maintaining the slide in the first place, also a well trained monkey could pick that each car in the game has a manual transmission but the shifting is controlled by the game, if only i still had an xbox and live, i would show all of you how its done, but i dont unfortunately, but when i do i will let you guys know. play the f*cking game hand brake into a corner accelerate and you will eventually hear the cars engine hit limiter for an extended period of time before it shifts into gear, it happens more with low end cars than high end ones, but it still happens none the less. all i am saying is that it could be improved. You're not understanding that everyone here that KNOWS how to drift knows what you just said and fully understands it. It's the folk who cant drift that don't understand it. Yet you think it's acceptable to alienate and entire forum of members by calling us all simple, yet your the one who doesn't understand. GTFO. im talking about the people who dont understand, you alienate yourself by lacking the simple common sense to recognise that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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