Johnsworld Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I haven't seen any issues with piston pin c-clips or broken/scored skirts with the tier 2s. All of our Tier 3 engines are less than 24 months old so i don't know how well they are going to hold up in the long term but so far we haven't seen any common issues. Honestly, the EVOs are very mechanically solid with just a few exceptions. -The rubber o-rings used to seal the cylinder liner water jackets don't last very long. Which causes the engines to consume water and then run low on cooling water and overheat. Then the exhaust valve seats get hot and warp ruining the head. -The tier 3 turbos use a nozzle ring that is held in place by steel pins and those pins are starting to break so we're replacing quite a few turbos recently. -The earliest EVOs we have are starting to break cranks. We've seen about half a dozen broken cranks over the last year or so. Unfortunately we're not setup to pull cranks on EVOs yet, so they have to go to GE. That's all going to change in the next 6 months or so, though Known what u mean about the liner seals. We had to replace the lot at 1/3 engine life. New ones seem to be good. Water pump reliability on both dash9 and evos are a real problem. You have the same problem? Get many dash 9 piston skirt failures? We have to inspect every 4 months. Saw a fair few exhaust tappets come loose on Evo,s but no inlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rader1 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 IMO it's not the o-rings that are the problem, it's the fact that the liners "float" in the strong back. When you remove the liner from the strong back you can actually see where the o-ring rides up the liner and that's what causes them to fail. Yeah, dash 9 water pumps get changed every 24 months as preventative measure due to their failure rate. The EVOs are also pretty bad about failures, I'd say 60% of them I see have a report of a suspected bad water pump. I haven't seen many valve train problems. I've seen a couple broken rocker bridges but that's about it. We haven't any real issues with dash 9 piston skirts in a few years. About 3 years ago we determined the skirts supplied by the company "VSMPO" were defective and the reason for the failures. So we went through and replaced them all with a new supplier and it solved the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenBlade Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Holy crap! 4,400HP?? WARNING: May cause spontaneous erections along with explosive orgasms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsworld Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Hey rader1. Thanks for your thoughts, what do you guys run in the engine . Mulitgrade or mono oil. We run a mono Do u have much prob with the dirty oil line pipe and victualics failing on the Evo's? How do your fuel boost pumps holdup? See the weather is freezing over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rader1 Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hey rader1. Thanks for your thoughts, what do you guys run in the engine . Mulitgrade or mono oil. We run a mono Do u have much prob with the dirty oil line pipe and victualics failing on the Evo's? How do your fuel boost pumps holdup? See the weather is freezing over there. I believe we run 20w40. I'm not sure what you mean by "dirty oil line pipe.' If you mean the sump drain hose then HOLY crap yes, almost every single one of them that comes in the shop is leaking. The victaulics used to be a problem, idk if GE changed the design or something but we don't see many victaulics leaks anymore. Of coarse, if you get any oil in the water then it completely breaks down the victaulics and EVERY one in the cooling system has to be replaced. The high pressure fuel pumps hold up pretty well from what i've seen. The low pressure fuel pump isn't that reliable, i've seen a lot of them go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX1 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Price point on these engines? How much, for instance, is a crankshaft? A crank new from GE costs roughly $40,000 dollars. A tier 1+ EFI 7FDL-16 assembled and ready to run costs roughly $450,000. A new locomotive costs $3 million dollars give or take depending on options. We can strip a block bare and rebuild it using new components for $350,000 with labor included. So, from the companies standpoint, we're saving over a $100G on each engine. How many parts have you smuggled out in your lunchbox/when can we expect to see your completed engine dropped in an old chevy? Are you going to use NOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rader1 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 1:when can we expect to see your completed engine dropped in an old chevy? 2:Are you going to use NOS? 1: soon 2: I was going to but i'm leaning more towards propane injection right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pico Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That seems like a neat job! I've been getting more and more attracted to a hands-on, manufacturing type career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenverGuy Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Great post! I have always wondered how tall the prime movers are. It would be good to see someone standing next to the one in the first picture. Anyone have any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnyboy Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 QUOTE (rader1 @ Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 02:05) QUOTE (ryuclan @ Tuesday, Feb 5 2013, 19:14) You work with a guy whose last name is Bubolz? No, why do you ask? A buddy of mine's father worked on engines like that. He almost got us a tour of their factory last year but it didn't happen. That one was in Wisconsin. I know a Bubuolz who works for GE... Small world huh? Cool job man, love these huge engines! I live about 10 minutes away from Waukesha Engine who makes giant generator engines, and I'm always astounded at the size of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strengthcamp Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Holy sh*t those engines are massive. Having worked on a six cylinder turbo diesel from a semi, they just look small now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryant6045 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 so what is the containment rods for tier Evo engines? I work at a shop in waycross ga and really would like to know as we have alot of tier 3 evos? We are having a problem with the upper water jumpers on the new Evo engines leaking when cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAAAP_STUTUTU Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 My god that turbo is HUGE! but 36 psi? Damn put that much on a car and (if it doesnt explode nor spontaneously combust) youd be flying and/or go uncaunsiaus because of tge G-force. Damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 My god that turbo is HUGE! but 36 psi? Damn put that much on a car and (if it doesnt explode nor spontaneously combust) youd be flying and/or go uncaunsiaus because of tge G-force. Damn There are cars that handle more than 36psi. It's more about the size of the turbo, 36psi in a turbo that big is pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 My mate's old 8v G60 Turbo was producing 2.3 Bar of boost- that's 33psi. It was fast as f*ck, but not ballistic missile fast. *MURDOC* 1 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Jesus tittysh*t, That's a big f*ckin motor. The size of a small house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161isaiah161 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Will it fit in my honda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxi Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Will it fit in my honda? Yes, I do think your Honda will fit in it. Moth, Ballistic Jello and *MURDOC* 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Will it fit in my honda? It will fit in your Honda factory. Maybe. Moth and epoxi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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