GunWrath Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 and by saying stereotypical you're implying that being the car he showed drives like sh*t, means American muscle is sh*t.. I beg to differ. Have you ever driven a car on a live track? I'm not implying that all American muscles are sh*t... just the ones from Ford and Chevrolet I'm going to stab you in the eye. 1967 Ford Mustang ... f*cking what. Eleanor! Hell, even the BOSS 302. Chevy speaks for itself.. Chevelle, Camaro, Nova. Just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 and by saying stereotypical you're implying that being the car he showed drives like sh*t, means American muscle is sh*t.. I beg to differ. Have you ever driven a car on a live track? I'm not implying that all American muscles are sh*t... just the ones from Ford and Chevrolet I'm going to stab you in the eye. 1967 Ford Mustang ... f*cking what. Eleanor! Hell, even the BOSS 302. Chevy speaks for itself.. Chevelle, Camaro, Nova. Just to name a few. Have fun stabbing me in the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 You're just used to mini coopers and BMW's probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I suppose I am because I like precision... not cars that have ice for rear wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Tell you what.. I'll race ya on Nurburgring, My muscle car versus your 'precision' Beamer. Anyone down for some racing today or tonight? I'll probably broadcast as well. Edited June 11, 2014 by GunWrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) The modern M cars I've driven in Forza can be slippery as hell if you ask me. Edited June 11, 2014 by StingrayX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Tell you what.. I'll race ya on Nurburgring, My muscle car versus your 'precision' Beamer. Anyone down for some racing today or tonight? I'll probably broadcast as well. Considering that you're trying to prove that Ford and Chevrolet aren't sh*t there would be little to no point. Just look at the LBs for Nordschleife. Might I add that they are near useless after B class seeing as nothing from Ford or Chevrolet can compete in the higher classes. Why? BMW stomps on Ford and Chevy in D and C class. A point for you here. Chevy is top in B class. A class is dominated by precision vehicles such as the R34, Ferrari F50 and the KTM X-Bow S Class is dominated by Ferrari F50's and Vipers which, unfortunately for you, aren't made by Ford or Chevrolet. R class is dominated by the Ferrari 312 T2. Again another precision vehicle P class... no surprise here. Heavily dominated by the Mazda 787B. Oh... would that be another precision vehicle? X Class. Do I even need to tell you what masterpiece of engineering dominates this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I didn't even read all that.. Just race me and find out for yourself man. Sure, Classes have their ratings.. but those ratings don't mean sh*t when playing online, play multiplayer and find out for yourself. Do you use automatic or manual? I use manual, and that's guaranteed to give you an extra 3-6secs lap time if used correctly, sometimes more. I also began to tune my own vehicles.. so I can race you with my C class, while you race with your A class and probably more than likely end up neck to neck with you or even win. Why? Because American Muscle isn't as bad as you think it is.. depends on the driver, not the car when it comes to the video game. As far as real life, sure, performance of a BMW will probably be better.. but you're pitting high performance cars versus classic muscle cars, there will always be an advantage, but muscle cars aren't 'ice on rear wheels'.. they drive better than you think. So quit bitching and race me. Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I making some stickerbomb cars for the lolz here's my RX7- Im gonna try to invert it uNi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I didn't even read all that.. Just race me and find out for yourself man. Sure, Classes have their ratings.. but those ratings don't mean sh*t when playing online, play multiplayer and find out for yourself. Do you use automatic or manual? I use manual, and that's guaranteed to give you an extra 3-6secs lap time if used correctly, sometimes more. I also began to tune my own vehicles.. so I can race you with my C class, while you race with your A class and probably more than likely end up neck to neck with you or even win. Why? Because American Muscle isn't as bad as you think it is.. depends on the driver, not the car when it comes to the video game. As far as real life, sure, performance of a BMW will probably be better.. but you're pitting high performance cars versus classic muscle cars, there will always be an advantage, but muscle cars aren't 'ice on rear wheels'.. they drive better than you think. So quit bitching and race me. Ratings don't mean sh*t playing online? A class vs R class. R is guaranteed to win D class vs C class. C is guaranteed to win P class vs X class. X is guaranteed to win. I don't know what world you live in but that was the stupidest thing you could have said "I also began to tune my own vehicles" Here, have a Considering my main A class racer is competitive with the main LB cars in the same class you wouldn't do very well. "muscle cars aren't ice on rear wheels" I never said they were. I was talking about the Barbham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Corvette C7 Stingray is soo overrated. I raced my friend who had a stock C7 on the mile track in various vehicles and it got spanked by cars in the same or lower class. Here were some cars that spanked it Ferrari F12 Berlinetta (stock) RUF CTR Littlebird (stock & note this is from 1987)(Almost) Audi RS7 Sportback (stock) (note B class stock)1990 Camaro IROC-Z (C class upgraded- engine swap- only focused on speed not handling) 1994 Prelude from the Civic pack- (maxed out on stock engine and drivetrain- A class- turbo added) Edited June 12, 2014 by Winning001 TheMcSame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I didn't even read all that.. Just race me and find out for yourself man. Sure, Classes have their ratings.. but those ratings don't mean sh*t when playing online, play multiplayer and find out for yourself. Do you use automatic or manual? I use manual, and that's guaranteed to give you an extra 3-6secs lap time if used correctly, sometimes more. I also began to tune my own vehicles.. so I can race you with my C class, while you race with your A class and probably more than likely end up neck to neck with you or even win. Why? Because American Muscle isn't as bad as you think it is.. depends on the driver, not the car when it comes to the video game. As far as real life, sure, performance of a BMW will probably be better.. but you're pitting high performance cars versus classic muscle cars, there will always be an advantage, but muscle cars aren't 'ice on rear wheels'.. they drive better than you think. So quit bitching and race me. Ratings don't mean sh*t playing online? A class vs R class. R is guaranteed to win D class vs C class. C is guaranteed to win P class vs X class. X is guaranteed to win. I don't know what world you live in but that was the stupidest thing you could have said "I also began to tune my own vehicles" Here, have a Considering my main A class racer is competitive with the main LB cars in the same class you wouldn't do very well. "muscle cars aren't ice on rear wheels" I never said they were. I was talking about the Barbham. You must not actively play online then.. ratings honestly don't mean sh*t. 99% of races online have assholes who you wreck you, then you have races where one mistake can ruin the entire race for you. I've been lapped, passed and lost to lower class cars on a few occasions. Again, it's not the ratings that decide a race but the driver. You should race online more often, racing against Drivatars is for the weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I didn't even read all that.. Just race me and find out for yourself man. Sure, Classes have their ratings.. but those ratings don't mean sh*t when playing online, play multiplayer and find out for yourself. Do you use automatic or manual? I use manual, and that's guaranteed to give you an extra 3-6secs lap time if used correctly, sometimes more. I also began to tune my own vehicles.. so I can race you with my C class, while you race with your A class and probably more than likely end up neck to neck with you or even win. Why? Because American Muscle isn't as bad as you think it is.. depends on the driver, not the car when it comes to the video game. As far as real life, sure, performance of a BMW will probably be better.. but you're pitting high performance cars versus classic muscle cars, there will always be an advantage, but muscle cars aren't 'ice on rear wheels'.. they drive better than you think. So quit bitching and race me. Ratings don't mean sh*t playing online? A class vs R class. R is guaranteed to win D class vs C class. C is guaranteed to win P class vs X class. X is guaranteed to win. I don't know what world you live in but that was the stupidest thing you could have said "I also began to tune my own vehicles" Here, have a Considering my main A class racer is competitive with the main LB cars in the same class you wouldn't do very well. "muscle cars aren't ice on rear wheels" I never said they were. I was talking about the Barbham. You must not actively play online then.. ratings honestly don't mean sh*t. 99% of races online have assholes who you wreck you, then you have races where one mistake can ruin the entire race for you. I've been lapped, passed and lost to lower class cars on a few occasions. Again, it's not the ratings that decide a race but the driver. You should race online more often, racing against Drivatars is for the weak. I race in non contact lobbies to avoid the assholes that constantly wreck people. Again, if ratings mean nothing then a mini could beat the Lotus E21 but that isn't the case... ratings obviously have a huge impact on the race and you're sat there saying ratings have no impact on the outcome of the race at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) of course ratings have an impact but just because a car is one class above another doesn't always mean it will win versus the next lower class.. I've witnessed it and I know first hand. It's a video game bo, not real life.. so it happens. Here he goes again with pitting a Cooper vs a Lotus, lulz. Like I said before, race me, I'll use one class below you and give you a run for your money. If you tune a car to a specific track, your car will perform better given any class, If I'm in a B class, I can drive just as well and perform just as well as an A class with the proper tuning. I'm not saying that my D or C class will out perform your R class or what not, that's certainly not the case. I'm talking side by side classes.. it happens all the time. Hell, even in single player, I've played a few 'Free Play' sessions to test and dial in my tunings with Class Type set to Any, while racing against classes 2 and even sometimes 3 higher on the track.. I still placed in the Top 5 and that's even Drivatar Difficulty on 'Above Average'. I think you should practice around with tuning man, you'll get a hell of a lot more out of your cars than just stock. Because every classic muscle car I own in this game isn't slippery at all. Edited June 12, 2014 by GunWrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 of course ratings have an impact but just because a car is one class above another doesn't always mean it will win versus the next lower class.. I've witnessed it and I know first hand. It's a video game bo, not real life.. so it happens. Here he goes again with pitting a Cooper vs a Lotus, lulz. Like I said before, race me, I'll use one class below you and give you a run for your money. If you tune a car to a specific track, your car will perform better given any class, If I'm in a B class, I can drive just as well and perform just as well as an A class with the proper tuning. I'm not saying that my D or C class will out perform your R class or what not, that's certainly not the case. I'm talking side by side classes.. it happens all the time. Hell, even in single player, I've played a few 'Free Play' sessions to test and dial in my tunings with Class Type set to Any, while racing against classes 2 and even sometimes 3 higher on the track.. I still placed in the Top 5 and that's even Drivatar Difficulty on 'Above Average'. I think you should practice around with tuning man, you'll get a hell of a lot more out of your cars than just stock. Because every classic muscle car I own in this game isn't slippery at all. yep also dont be afraid to save multiple tune setups for cars and use the Forza spoiler and splitter (even though they dump the speed, not all tracks are speed orientated) GunWrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) of course ratings have an impact but just because a car is one class above another doesn't always mean it will win versus the next lower class.. I've witnessed it and I know first hand. It's a video game bo, not real life.. so it happens. Here he goes again with pitting a Cooper vs a Lotus, lulz. Like I said before, race me, I'll use one class below you and give you a run for your money. If you tune a car to a specific track, your car will perform better given any class, If I'm in a B class, I can drive just as well and perform just as well as an A class with the proper tuning. I'm not saying that my D or C class will out perform your R class or what not, that's certainly not the case. I'm talking side by side classes.. it happens all the time. Hell, even in single player, I've played a few 'Free Play' sessions to test and dial in my tunings with Class Type set to Any, while racing against classes 2 and even sometimes 3 higher on the track.. I still placed in the Top 5 and that's even Drivatar Difficulty on 'Above Average'. I think you should practice around with tuning man, you'll get a hell of a lot more out of your cars than just stock. Because every classic muscle car I own in this game isn't slippery at all. A few things here... 1.Drivatars are slow all around with all but the one in first being very slow. 2.You make it sound like above average drivatars are hard to race against in the first place I think you miss the point... "I think you should practice around with tuning man" Let me just remind you of something... you know... maybe I was commenting on the car's handling when it was... oh I don't know... BONE DRY stock No upgrades, no tuning. Edited June 12, 2014 by TheMcSame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The drivatars are annoying. Like every racing game, the best ones start out in front. they shouldve randomized it so the best drivatars start anywhere and you dont start in last all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 yep also dont be afraid to save multiple tune setups for cars and use the Forza spoiler and splitter (even though they dump the speed, not all tracks are speed orientated) Aren't the available tune save slots rather limited? So maybe one should be afraid to save multiple tune setups for cars.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) yep also dont be afraid to save multiple tune setups for cars and use the Forza spoiler and splitter (even though they dump the speed, not all tracks are speed orientated) Aren't the available tune save slots rather limited? So maybe one should be afraid to save multiple tune setups for cars.. do you really need 3256321563215456 tune setups? the most i have on one car is 5 also you can buy multiple cars and put setups on those cars Edited June 12, 2014 by Winning001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 do you really need 3256321563215456 tune setups? the most i have on one car is 5 also you can buy multiple cars and put setups on those cars The overall limit is like 250, which yes, has been used up. They're only drag tunes too, with a couple of circuit ones. Definitely need the ability to have 3256321563215456 tune setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 do you really need 3256321563215456 tune setups? the most i have on one car is 5 also you can buy multiple cars and put setups on those cars The overall limit is like 250, which yes, has been used up. They're only drag tunes too, with a couple of circuit ones. Definitely need the ability to have 3256321563215456 tune setups. seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Took that free Honda Civic Si for a ride .. made it a little drifter uNi and Gnocchi Flip Flops 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 seems legit. Yarp. All about them leaderboards, for better or worse. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I know Forza has always been the more realistic racer, but I kinda miss game modes from games like Drift. Wish Forza would incorporate some modes like that.. I know we have 'Virus' or whatever.. but it would be sweet to have something different for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase177 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Just purchased this game on Amazon for a really good price of $25USD. I can't wait to try it out in a few days. Here's a link for those interested. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JNBNNME/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00JNBNNME&linkCode=as2&tag=gamdea06-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G's Ah's Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Everyone arguing about precision cars and tuning and which is best. Races in a Nissan GTR with AWD and massive understeer (and a V8 engine with 788hp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Ok? Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Everyone arguing about precision cars and tuning and which is best. Races in a Nissan GTR with AWD and massive understeer (and a V8 engine with 788hp). goes 289 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) New DLC EDIT: Removed spoiler and video. Added some thoughts and experiences with the cars, 1 lap of the Nurburgring, stock setup. 2013 Lamborghini Veneno - A very decent car, great acceleration. Suffers from some understeer. 1939 Audi Auto Union Type D - A pretty decent car, LB potential if upgraded and tuned properly. Suffers from mostly controllable oversteer, generally poor handling. 1967 Lotus Type 49 - Very decent, LB potential with upgrades and tuning. Decent top speed and very good acceleration. The back likes to slide around in the corners. 2013 Mazda #7 Andretti Autosport USF2000 1952 Ferrari 375 - Pretty decent, unique and slim cockpit view. LB potential if upgraded and tuned properly. Hasn't got much problems, suffers from weak oversteer, feels twitchy at high speeds. Okay handling in general. Being from 1952 this thing is not as slow as you'd think. 1974 Toyota Celica GT (I'll test it later) 2015 Audi S3 Sedan - Not all that good, suffers from understeer. 1956 Ford F-100 - Decent handling for what it is. Likes to lean. Very poor top speed reached, even for a 4 speed. 1973 Ford XB Falcon GT - Nothing special. It gets the job done but that's about it. It'll get you around the corner slowly but it wont oversteer much, it will get you down a straight but not fast and with it's acceleration it'll get you to it's top speed of 135 just before Christmas. ~40 seconds (clean run) behind the Type D (high speed spin out with quick recovery) , Ferrari 375 (off track a few times) and the S3 (Off the track a few times). 1983 GMC Vandura G-1500 - Slow in just about every way. Not worth what little energy you use to purchase it. Edited July 4, 2014 by TheMcSame uNi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatD4VIS-360 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Should I pick up forza 5 or just hold off until horizon 2? I've never played the series and it looks like forza 5 has controlled races on it. With real tracks and sponsors etc, horizon 2 looks like more open world racing with less control on track boundaries and stuff. What do y'all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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