Star Wars

[darthYENIK]

It's funny how the shot with Vader is just casually inserted in the middle of action and shows zero reverence for the character, as if he's just another thing happening, and he isn't the most exciting thing about the trailer.

 

That makes me think he's not going to be as big of a role as we hope. Think Joker in Suicide Squad.

 

That said, it looks great.

[Creed Bratton]

That makes me think he's not going to be as big of a role as we hope.

And that's OK because there's less chance that they would ruin him.

[darthYENIK]

I'm on record to not liking the idea of a recasting of Han Solo. That said, this isn't bad casting...

 

Donald Glover cast as young Lando

[Honker1944]

Ok noone posted anything in this topic for two weeks so it is time to change it.

The Antilles Extraction

www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0M2RC5ENLI

This episode was good but definietly too short. We didn't even know why the other two pilots wanted to leave the empire academy. Pryce knows w to fight but she didn't know how to use brain. If she had Sabine photo which means that she is dangerous rebel spy why she didn't killed her immediatly?

Imperial Supercommandos

 

I really liked Fenn Rau especially after he stole their ship. I even hoped that he left them for good and they will find Phantom somwhere in Outer Rim. But I don't think it's really bad that he joined rebels. It's just diffrent. The moment when Sabine hug Ezra was priceless

 

They really improved explosion effect now it is more like TCW before Di$ney era. Do you think there is a chance that this ship could be "Outrinder"?

Edited November 28, 2016 by Honker1944

[~Tiger~]

I finally watched The Force Awakens yesterday. I know I'm late... reasons.

 

I found the movie good to watch and despite the constant homage to New Hope, the pace was good and the acting was great.

 

The only problem was that everytime Princess Leia spoke; all I heard was Peter Griffin's boss...

 

 

[darthYENIK]

The final trailer...

 

 

[HaythamKenway]

Based Tudykbot

 

[X S]

Grand Moff Tarkin spotted!

 

[darthYENIK]

Tickets went on sale for Rogue One. Hopefully I can get tickets later today.

[HaythamKenway]

An interesting talk regarding the possibility of the Obi-Wan spinoff.

 

http://www.rebelforceradio.com/shows/2016/11/25/rebel-force-radio-november-25-2016

 

Rebel Force Radio: …And lastly is the rumored Obi-Wan spin-off, something Ewan McGregor has been on the record as saying it’s something that he would be interested in. What do you think the odds are of something like that?

Anthony Breznican: Um, I have heard rumors that the one reason they haven’t moved sooner on Obi-Wan is that they’re not done with Obi-Wan quite yet…

RFR: Ohhhh.

AB: …in the Saga films. So I wouldn’t be surprised to see an Obi-Wan thing happen beyond Episode IX.

RFR: Holy cow!

AB: Which it would have to anyway, because they’re booked up until Episode IX.

RFR: Of course, yeah, of course.

AB: So I don’t think that’s controversial to say, but I think that there’s bound to be some reference to Obi-Wan – and I’m not being coy here, this is literally all I know is that [Lucasfilm’s thinking is] “Ehh, if you want to tell an Episode IX story, it’s better that it happens after this first trilogy, because things that happen in it can maybe reference The Force Awakens trilogy.”, if that makes any sense. Some of this is sort of like doing CIA spywork, where you get little pieces of information and then you try to connect them. But I think that they’ll probably be some reference to Obi-Wan in the Saga films, and his connection to whatever characters he happens to have a connection with. I’ve already written that I think that Rey has some kind of connection to him – family connection. So if that’s the case, maybe we see a part of that play out in the future Obi-Wan movie. Ewan McGregor would be the perfect age to reprise that [character]…

RFR: Yes! Right.

AB: …So he seems game to do it, and I think [the movie] hasn’t been one they’ve greenlit just yet, but partly because they’re still shaping that story. So we’ll see. I think it’s – again – kind of a no-brainer.

 

Breznican is LFL's go-to guy in the media, by the way, so even though it is just another piece of rampant speculation after all, there is a bit more plausibility to it than some random guy spewing "rumors" on Reddit or /tv/.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

Well, you can't exactly cast a 74 year old Harrison Ford in a Han Solo origins movie, so yeah, it's a good idea to recast.

What I mean is just that. You can't replace Harrison Ford. A) He's 74, and B) he is Han Solo. Bringing in anyone other than Harrison Ford from the 70s (via time machine) is not going to end well.

 

Mark my words. That movie is going to be the "Into Darkness" of Star Wars movies.

 

If the director knows what he is doing it is still doable, if not...yea...

Though easiest way would be to make a 3d animation movie and then let ford do voice acting

[HaythamKenway]

A minor Rogue One character spoiler is getting plastered all over my YouTube feeds.

 

Time to go dark?

Edited December 3, 2016 by HaythamKenway

[darthYENIK]

Two weeks is a long time to go dark. Maybe you just have to pick and choose where you go.

 

PS this is everyone's reminder that spoiler tags are required for any spoiler from this point until after the movie is released. This includes characters showing up that aren't in trailers or officially announced to be in the movie, speculation, plot points, and anything you question if it's a spoiler. Just be cool guys.

[X S]

Is it weird to say that this is the first Star Wars movie where I'm actually going to wait for reviews before seeing it?

 

*gulp*

[HaythamKenway]

Nah. Nothing wrong with being cautious.

 

Look at me, last year I didn't even go see TFA on the first day, being content with waiting for the weekend. I was quite sceptical about the movie for multiple reasons. And in the end I was better off for it. Curtailing my expectations has allowed me to look at the movie from a different perspective and enjoying what good was there about it even more.

[El Dildo]

yeah I don't feel the need to see this movie DAY ONE...

 

but I'm not going to wait for reviews, either.

by and large reviews - and reviewers - are retarded and given mostly to uninformative personal opinions.

 

critics can blow me. if I like a film then it's good. that's all there is to it.

I don't really care what other people think of it especially my fellow audience members. I already know that I'm going to see Star Wars so just don't spoil anything for me and I'll make up my own mind. I don't know where people build up so many expectations about this stuff. I guess they soak up all that behind-the-scenes speculation. I ain't got time for that sh/t.

Edited December 13, 2016 by El Diablo

[Richard Power Colt]

Is it weird to say that this is the first Star Wars movie where I'm actually going to wait for reviews before seeing it?

 

*gulp*

For me this'll be the first where I actually watch it day-one lol. It's not like I was super hyped for it tho. I just found out that it's coming out tomorrow and I haven't been to the theater in a while so I thought why not. I watched one review that basically said it was good, but not great which is enough for me because it's still Star Wars.

 

Edit:

Just got back from watching it. It was alright. A little light on character development, but definitely exciting. I was a bit worried that the re-shoots would make it feel like every other Star Wars film, but I think it still overall felt like a much more grounded story in the Star Wars universe. I think Gareth Edwards' cinematography kinda plays into it, he likes to shoot things from the human perspective which you'll know if you've seen Godzilla. It made the final battle more intense too.

 

Some spoiler thoughts:

 

 

-CGI Tarkin looked crazy good. Hardly felt uncanny at all.

-Vader made a bit of a one-liner in one scene. Can't decide whether if it was cheesy or awesome. Felt like something people will post meme images about.

-They came up with a pretty sensible way to explain why the Death Star had such a terrible design flaw.

-I liked that there was some moral conflict within the rebels too. Didn't feel so black and white in the sense that rebels would just be the good guys and the empire the bad.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2016 by Richard Power Colt

[HaythamKenway]

Saw Rogue One tonight.

 

I'm still just reeling. A little at loss for words. It's a movie for the fans, even more so than TFA was last year. TFA was like a big happy reunion, the best of Star Wars, a revival and an introduction to a new future for the series and RO, on the other hand, is like a love letter to the Expanded Universe specifically. Not just in terms of fanservice, cameos and references (though they are plentiful and oh god, some of them just made me squee), but in the style, in how it takes the groundwork of the Saga films and then builds on it, shifts it in a different direction than we're used to. In how it utilizes the connected, shared universe and draws from everything, from the OT, the prequels, Rebels, NuCanon novels, the old EU - just everything!

 

It's simply the kind of the story I'm used to seeing in the novels and such. But to experience it on the big screen, with all the bells and whistles that only the cinematic format can provide - that's just nothing short of incredible. I know I'm not saying anything new, I know this is what we all expected of the spin-offs, but finally getting to see that promise come to life... It's like I never really understood what the addition of the standalones actually meant for the series. Forgive the pathos, but it's like a revelation. Like when Nick Fury showed up in Iron Man back in 2008, or better yet, when Stark, Cap and Thor finally stood together for the first time in 2012. I just didn't believe that it's really going to happen, until it actually did and I saw it with my own eyes.

 

The fact that tonally RO really stands apart from the rest of the films helps hammer the impression in too. After all that reshoot furore, it needs to be said - the finished movie faithfully stuck to its war film premise. It's grimy, dirty, nasty and by large humorless. The stakes are high, the heroes make hard choices and heavy sacrifices and there really isn't a single major villain to point to - it's the challenge of the mission and the imperial war machine what is the adversary. I'm replaying the Mass Effect trilogy at the moment, which puts the series at the front of my mind, and the movie reminded me a lot of Mass Effect 2. In the cast and their interplay, the plot, the themes.

 

One thing I especially like is how much the movie emphasized that the Rebels are an armed insurgency in a conflict with an oppresive regime - and all the moral questions and complications that arise from that and the toll it takes on the individuals who find themselves in the war. Normal individuals: soldiers, civilians, politicians - not heroes-by-fate or dashing adventurers. And again, to bring it back around, that's what the EU did for years. Show a different side, a different perspective on the galaxy. And it's just fantastic that we're getting that in the form of actual movies now.

 

The Disney takeover might have been controversial. The new business plan might be coldly calculated and exploitative. The EU wipe might have been an ugly cut into the fandom. TFA might have made "the necessary evil" of playing it safe. But the fact that a movie like Rogue One exists and opened the gates for even more of its ilk is, in my opinion, a gift to the fanbase and makes up for all the pains along the way.

[Gouveia]

I'm still thinking about what I've seen in the theaters. It's not a Star Wars movie, but a movie about Star Wars. That thought echoed in my head.

 

I loved TFA, but it always seemed more "familiar" than "original". As it was already said, it's a hell of a good flick, but they played it safe. A lot.

 

Rogue One was bold. It has SW's identity, but it's not the Star Wars we know and love. It's far from perfect, but far better than what I was expected. It's a very good flick that stands on its own. I'm prolly gonna see it again soon.

 

The first two thirds are a slow buildup for the f*cking awesome final act. And the finale was just awesome. Both our protagonists' faith, and the real ending in the Corvette (?).

 

I hope the other spin offs follow this same path, a.k.a. being as original as they can be, with their own personality, but within our beloved SW universe. I'm looking forward for more.

[Legomanarthur]

Saw the movie today and I just can't explain how much I loved it, so much references, the music is awesome too (some parts felt a little out of place but it still worked for a SW movie). The characters are great and different from one another, the shots are fantastic, seriously, there's so much shots that are beautifully done and "new" to look at that they make me want to see this movie 50 more times, but that will be for later hah!

 

Way better than TFA in my opinion, this is I think the Star Wars movie fans were waiting for, and when I first saw the trailer for Rogue One, I wasn't really interested in this movie compared to TFA's teaser/trailer, I'm so happy to like this movie, it delivered what a Star Wars movie should deliver if that makes any sense.

 

I'll give it a 9.5/10.

 

 

SPOILER

 

And that last scene with Vader before they escape on the Tantive IV, I smiled during the entire scene, it just felt like another world for a second, the way the rebels looked at him when he ignited his lightsaber, they have never seen a sith before, and probably a jedi too (except perhaps Kanan/Ezra.. meh), and like I said, they faced something so powerful that they couldn't understand what was happening... Such a perfect and powerful scene.

 

[Crokey]

Holy R2D2-noise-ing wow, what an awesome film that was. Completely and utterly loved it, dark, harsh, bold and risk taking. The subtle nods to episode IV was great, including the brief cameo of Cornelius Evazan (or Pignose if you follow the Family Guy version).

 

I don't want to spoil it for those who've not seen it yet but it should be called Rogue Onions, cause there was certainly someone cutting them towards the end of the film.

 

Verdict: It's in the same bracket as the original trilogy in terms of how great this was. 9/10.

[darthYENIK]

It was a great one off story. I'm still fresh from the theater, and haven't really gathered my thoughts.

 

 

CGI Tarkin was still in the uncanny valley, but CGI Leia made me lose my breath for a second because it looked like her. Maybe it was because she didn't move much, and Peter Cushing was a weird looking guy, but she looked much better.

 

I got goose bumps when Red and Gold squadrons jumped into the scene and Garvin Dreis and Gold Leader (sorry that's the limit of my Star Wars knowledge, don't know his name) were there sounding off. Got a chuckle that Red Five was KIA, opening up a spot for a replacement Red Five.

 

Vader was great, short and sweet moments. Bail Organa and Mon Mothma discussing his Jedi friend was neat, as well as the Ghost showing up in the final battle.

 

Overall, it supplements A New Hope perfectly. The hints and references, and of course it leads directly into it. You could cut ANH's beginning directly into the end of Rogue One and with the exception of obvious VFX, sound, and cinematography, it is just one continuous story.

 

 

Edit: and now

Vader's castle is suddenly located not on Vjun, but Mustafar?

We were so close to seeing one of the EU's most exciting places, but they snubbed it.

Edited December 16, 2016 by darthYENIK

[Zello]

Just finished watching Rogue one what an ending! I almost cried at the end

Edited December 16, 2016 by Zello

[TJGM]

Absolutely fantastic. The only upsetting thing about this movie is we'll likely never see these new characters again on the big screen.

[HaythamKenway]

It was a great one off story. I'm still fresh from the theater, and haven't really gathered my thoughts.

 

 

CGI Tarkin was still in the uncanny valley, but CGI Leia made me lose my breath for a second because it looked like her. Maybe it was because she didn't move much, and Peter Cushing was a weird looking guy, but she looked much better.

 

I got goose bumps when Red and Gold squadrons jumped into the scene and Garvin Dreis and Gold Leader (sorry that's the limit of my Star Wars knowledge, don't know his name) were there sounding off. Got a chuckle that Red Five was KIA, opening up a spot for a replacement Red Five.

 

Vader was great, short and sweet moments. Bail Organa and Mon Mothma discussing his Jedi friend was neat, as well as the Ghost showing up in the final battle.

 

Overall, it supplements A New Hope perfectly. The hints and references, and of course it leads directly into it. You could cut ANH's beginning directly into the end of Rogue One and with the exception of obvious VFX, sound, and cinematography, it is just one continuous story.

 

 

Edit: and now

Vader's castle is suddenly located not on Vjun, but Mustafar?

We were so close to seeing one of the EU's most exciting places, but they snubbed it.

One of these days it's going to show up on Rebels.

 

 

I'm just happy we got the Bast Castle back at all. That was one of those moments I went totally ecstatic in the theater. Vjun would have been even more awesome, but Mustafar makes sense I guess and it was great to see that place again. Coruscant too, now that we're talking about these things.

 

And it makes Rebels' S1 finale all the more horrifying in retrospect. Kanan was being brought to Vader himself for questioning. And "Mustafar is the place Jedi go to die". Jesus, thinking about what exactly Vader does in his dungeons - and just how many Jedi fugitives and symphatizers ended up there - makes my skin crawl.

 

About the CG revivals, I was honestly more weirded out about Leia than about Tarkin. It felt kinda off to me, like she was a real, different actress with a layer of a CGI mask augmenting her visage. Maybe it's in that it was so short, my brain couldn't adjust to it or something. Because yeah, admittedly Cushing was more stuck in the uncanny valley and you could really see the illusion not working competely, but I was still very impressed about the technology at display. That they've come this far and had Tarkin reappear multiple times in full scenes - no short cameos, actual scenes - was a pretty major achievement.

 

The problem I had with Tarkin though is that I found it quite tasteless. As neat the tech is and as great it was to see one of my favorite characters play a major part he rightfully deserves (that was one of my original reservations about RO - how are you going to make a movie about the Death Star without Tarkin getting his due), I would have preferred if they just cast a different actor. As it is, I thought it was a bit disrespectful to Cushing and his actual acting work. Same for the Red and Gold Leaders, but their parts were much smaller.

 

At least they bothered to get the approval of his estate. And who knows, he really liked Star Wars and regretted that he couldn't star in a sequel, so perhaps he himself would be okay about this after all.

 

On a more cheerful side, I really liked how much screentime Mothma and Organa got. I was worried that Bail would just stand in the background, barely speaking, if at all, but he actually got multiple really good scenes. And Mon was just perfect, I loved how she was accurately presented as someone who understands the necessity of compromise and discourse, but still stands behind her own views and agenda nonetheless. That quick shot after the comm officer tells her that Raddus went all "F*ck everyone, I'm going to Scarif" and she just has that little smile - perfect.

 

And yeah, Raddus. What a guy. Draven was pretty cool too.

 

 

In general, I just absolutely loved the shady side of the Alliance we were shown. While the early NuCanon material was quite nuanced on the character front (Lost Stars!), overall it was still more than happy to reaffirm that Rebels = Good and Empire = Baaad. Which is one of the reasons I was quite hard on Disney before TFA, as under their care I've seen Sheev turned into a jobbing Sith Idiot and the Empire reduced into Saturday morning cartoon villains again.

 

RO doesn't redeem the Empire in any way, true, but at very least their evil is shown as something less fantastical and more relatable. We see their prison camp, a city under occupation, how they treat their workforce and civilian population; not just nondescript oppression, generic bad guy actions against enemy combatants in an action movie and sci-fi war crimes like blowing up planets. And the Rebels act the same way and wrestle with the same problems that rebelling factions have in all real life revolts. They are fractured and have internal factions pulling in different directions, while the more militant of them have to be extra pragmatic and deal with the murky stuff they have to pull.

 

I'm just so happy that LFL didn't compromise in any way here. The major reason why I wasn't excited about this movie at all just a year ago is that I didn't think they were going to commit to making it so different. I expected a war-themed Star Wars movie, not a war movie set in the Star Wars universe. To explain my point better, I thought RO is going to be similar to the Marvel movies in that The Winter Soldier is a superhero "spy movie" and Ant-Man is a superhero "heist movie" and such. That's not to say that that is bad - I obviously love the MCU and I'm not one of those people who thinks that all of their movies are carbon copies of one another - the point is that they still share a common style and formula.

 

So what would RO be for me in that case? A fun Star Wars movie set in an era I'm more or less indifferent about, dealing with the most obvious premise one could come up for the first spin-off. And that would be fine, I guess. I was looking forward to the movie ever since TFA came out and I got on board. But it was hardly something to get excited about as much as about a mainline SW installment. But the actual result we got now is much more than that. It's as I said, what the Expanded universe stories were - a completely different take on the setting, with a completely different genre.

 

It made me so excited about the future of the series and what else we'll get. I'm actually pretty curious about even the Han Solo movie now!

 

Edit: Too soon ;_;

 

 

Edited December 17, 2016 by HaythamKenway

[darthYENIK]

Story-wise my favorite character and his journey was Cassian. It may have not been the most believable character development...

as he seemingly just decides to not be a killer, but in the moment. There's not really a catalyst to why he suddenly isn't going to kill Galen. Although he does see Galen stand up for his crew and maybe seeing Stormtroopers kill them, made him realize he's no better. But at the same time I was certain Cassian was not looking through his scope when they were shot.

 

I would've had Cassian kill Galen, and had him see the impact it had on Jyn to make him change. But still it is a very interesting thought. Why aren't the Rebels more ruthless? Maybe now we know why, and that's because Cassian showed them that they could be better than the Empire.

 

[Gegon45]

8/10 a scene close to end was epic

[X S]

Haven't seen it yet, but I'm seeing some people report that a lot of theaters weren't even filled to 25% capacity? Was this true for anyone else?

[Commander S]

^ Not sure, but I've just been trying to book in advance for a couple of weeks from now (27th is the earliest I can see it - trying my darnedest to avoid plot details! ), and most of my usual cinemas are charging top-whack for their last couple of seats. Thought I could just pop in somewhere on the way home from work, while people are still at home doing Xmas stuff, but apparently there's a lot of people wanting to see this one over here...

Did find out about a couple of minor Easter egg-y things, though and ...yeah, I'm a sucker for things like that. Particularly concerning < redacted >, just from a neat continuity/world-building perspective.

[darthYENIK]

I'm definitely seeing people (not in here, obviously) starting their same bullsh*t they do every big movie, but specifically the Force Awakens a year ago. Opening weekend, you see nothing but love, and a little hate. Hate is fine. It's okay not to like something. But because there is so much love for the movie right now, in a week or two, the people who don't love it will get louder and louder and more and more negative, because they need everyone to know they don't like something everyone did like. Meanwhile all the people who liked it have already said their piece, and are content saying no more about it. So in the next week or two we will see a flood of negativity with little positivity to counter balance it. In the next couple weeks, many people will say R1 is overrated, and as bad as the prequels, maybe worse.

 

I'm not against being negative about a movie, but it's annoying when people are contrarian to make themselves feel superior.

 

Those people are always welcome here, though. Let's just treat each other with respect. Some of the debates in here last year got a little stupid.

 

Anywho, I don't know about quarter filled theaters, it seems to be going great in terms of sales. Looks like a $155 million opening weekend.