Star Wars

[MyName'sJeff]

Hey man, their vision must have been clouded by the dark side

 

As for that theory about the essence transfer while Palp falls, you can see that his lightning powers are still powered up even while he's falling so when he fell into the shaft, the energy just expanded and released into the air since he died and must have blew up a generator of some kind as well to cause that effect.

[Spadge]

*spoiler*

 

Sorry, it was just a knock-off of episode 4 with bad Disney Humor and of course the loss of one great character we all loved in the original triology. They're basically blowing up the death star, again, with the excuse that this time it's just bigger and built into a planet. Also, the main bad guy is just so un-charismatic. If you have to make your main antagonist wear a helmet in order to make him look intimidating, you might have to re-think your casting choice. Seriously, I can't even remember his name.

 

Abraham did a great job with Star Trek, I absolutely loved it, but he seriously failed on Star Wars, I am disappointed.

Edited January 9, 2016 by Spadge007

[Star-Lord]

Hey man, their vision must have been clouded by the dark side

 

As for that theory about the essence transfer while Palp falls, you can see that his lightning powers are still powered up even while he's falling so when he fell into the shaft, the energy just expanded and released into the air since he died and must have blew up a generator of some kind as well to cause that effect.

My point is, if he was like a cat and had 9 lives, well then that shaft took them all. He got shafted by Vader.

 

I just love when Vader is going back and forth looking at his son while back to Palpatine. When I first saw this scene I knew deep inside, Vader was going to tear him a new hole. In his mind he was thinking "f*ck this, I'm throwing this mutherf*cker down the shaft." "You want balance? Balance this!"

[MyName'sJeff]

*spoiler*

 

Sorry, it was just a knock-off of episode 4 with bad Disney Humor and of course the loss of one great character we all loved in the original triology. They're basically blowing up the death star, again, with the excuse that this time it's just bigger and built into a planet. Also, the main bad guy is just so un-charismatic. If you have to make your main antagonist wear a helmet in order to make him look intimidating, you might have to re-think your casting choice. Seriously, I can't even remember his name.

 

Abraham did a great job with Star Trek, I absolutely loved it, but he seriously failed on Star Wars, I am disappointed.

Kylo Ren is supposed to be intimidating with the mask on and in conflict when he doesn't, that's the point. I don't think you understand what this villian is about. Vader always wore a helmet, thats why he was one of the greatest villains in movie history and is also feared within the film. Of course he had to anyway since he was inside a suit which had life support. If you saw his face, you'd laugh yourself to death and see the other side of him and when we saw Anakin turning into Vader, he had that baby face since he was young, when did he ever look intimidating apart from getting pissed? The point is, Kylo Ren has not fully transitioned into a Sith, that's why when Han confronts him and tells him to take his mask off, he's extremely troubled and he's on the verge of crying. Why? Because there's good in him. "I feeeel the good in him, the conflict". I'd even go as far as to say he's almost as intimidating as Vader because he'll do anything to get what he wants, even getting rid of his poor father.

Edited January 10, 2016 by MyName'sJeff

[Shadowfennekin]

*spoiler*

 

Sorry, it was just a knock-off of episode 4 with bad Disney Humor and of course the loss of one great character we all loved in the original triology. They're basically blowing up the death star, again, with the excuse that this time it's just bigger and built into a planet. Also, the main bad guy is just so un-charismatic. If you have to make your main antagonist wear a helmet in order to make him look intimidating, you might have to re-think your casting choice. Seriously, I can't even remember his name.

 

Abraham did a great job with Star Trek, I absolutely loved it, but he seriously failed on Star Wars, I am disappointed.

Them killing Han off is what made me hate the movie.... and Kylo. I loved Kylo up until that point.

 

I also hate whoever's idea it was to kill him off. That was disgusting and disrespectful to his fans, you don't just kill off somebody's damn hero like that. At least in comics they'll most likely come back but no.... Star Wars they're dead for good. I'm pissed off.

 

Poe better survive this trilogy, He's the only character I liked besides BB8 that got introduced. I felt like Rey was too Mary Sueish(The mindwipe theory better be real) and I wasn't that interested in Finn.

[Chewie]

Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to be killed off in ROTJ.

[Is this The Guy?]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was partially Ford's idea, from what I recall he didn't speak to highly about his involvement in the original trilogy . He also came out and said he wanted to be killed off in Return of the Jedi, although for a different reason.

Edited January 10, 2016 by This Guy Is Here

[Chewie]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was partially Ford's idea, from what I recall he didn't speak to highly about his involvement in the original trilogy . He also came out and said he wanted to be killed off in Return of the Jedi, although for a different reason.

That's what I was thinking. I thought it might of been Ford's idea to kill off Han. I all ready knew that was going to happen before it came out because I read spoilers on Facebook. I knew a lot about the movie before it came out because of assholes on 9gag's Facebook.

 

This is pretty awesome!

 

[darthYENIK]

Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to be killed off in ROTJ.

He wanted him to be killed in Empire, instead of being frozen in carbonite, then again in Jedi.

 

It was pretty obvious to me that Han wouldn't survive TFA. I could believe Kennedy, Abrams and co going to Ford and asking him if he wanted to be in the movie, and him saying, "Only if I die."

[Chewie]

I wasn't really bothered by his death. Anyone else feel that way?

[HaythamKenway]

Me neither. It was amazingly executed, intergral to the overarching story (and not just throwaway sacrifice), with the both his and Kylo's character arcs directly building up to it throughout the movie and it was packed with emotion. And it was appropriate, since this is (from the old guard's perspective) Han's movie through and through. It was nice to see him in a spotlight again. If Han died in RotJ, it wouldn't be as poignant, I'd say, he didn't really have anything special to do, he was just... there. In TFA, he's a key character with a ton of new character development.

 

I want to see more of Leia in VIII though. I think she's easily one of the most underrated characters in the whole movie. I never see anyone talking about her, but I liked all her scenes. She's tired, disillusioned, without the same spark he had in the OT (she's doing these things still, not because she really wants to, but because, to quote Connor from AC III, "no one else will"). Everything she fought for all her life went nowhere, with something even worse taking the Empire's place, the democracy she worked so hard at restoring and protecting considers her a war-obsessed madwoman and her entire family completely fell apart. But still, she has a deep-seated hope and belief that things can turn around. With Luke, with Ben. And that hope keeps clashing with that jaded, realistic perspective ("How could I be so foolish to think I could just bring Luke back?" - paraphrasing, unfortunately, my memory sucks, but I love that brief scene). And now, she has to live with the fact that she pretty much sent the love of her life to death at the hands of their own son. I know things were more complicated that that, but if you were in the same position, wouldn't you feel guilt? Wouldn't you blame yourself?

[Coin]

It's not like his death came out of left field either, lets be honest.

[HaythamKenway]

 

 

Thank you based IHE.

 

I'm getting pretty tired of the internet hate train too, it's really like you can't enjoy and find value in anything at this point. And, honestly, it's universal and not just aimed at TFA. It feels like the internet consensus considers every single piece of Star Wars media an unredeemable piece of sh*t nowadays. There's just so much negativity everywhere.

[MyName'sJeff]

I haven't seen a single valid criticism of this movie so far, not one. It's either because they thought Kylo was a bitch and didn't look threatening without the mask, Luke appearing in the film right at the end for 10 seconds or it's about the death star plot (which is understandable to a certain point), Kylo losing to Rey (should be cleared up in the next film) and Finn barely holding up with Kylo which is the worst excuse I've heard since we know how badly hurt Kylo was and clearly was messing with him anyway.

Edited January 10, 2016 by MyName'sJeff

[Star-Lord]

I've been searching for the meaning of the word 'Snoke' and out of all my searches found nothing, because the word doesn't exist until I eliminated one letter - where I came up with this.

 

Soke its definition. Soke (pronounced sō-kay) is a Japanese title and term meaning and often used to indicate headmaster or head of the family.

That sounds like something that would make sence with TFA scheme of things, right?

 

Supreme Leader (Headmaster) = the same.

[MyName'sJeff]

Digging deep I see

[Star-Lord]

Digging deep I see

The information we seek is out there, we just need to find it. It's fun to speculate.

[MyName'sJeff]

Said like a true Sith. It'll be my pleasure to watch you and the Jedi battle, and don't worry, I'm rooting for you............................my apprentice!

[Star-Lord]

Star Wars 8 is going to be weird, promises screenwriter

 

It's not going to be like anything that's ever been in Star Wars.

Wonder what he meant by weird?

 

Source

[Chewie]

Rian Johnson is directing Star Wars 8 and Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg are writing it. Lawrence wrote these movies.

Simon wrote these movies and imo I think they are okay. I've never been that much of a fan of X-Men. I haven't seen The Martian.

Edited January 11, 2016 by TheGoatKing

[Is this The Guy?]

The Martians a good movie, I enjoyed it

[JuniorChubb]

I haven't seen a single valid criticism of this movie so far, not one.

The film is pretty easy to negatively criticize IMO but the ride is so much fun its easy to overlook any 'problems'.

[Tchuck]

Meh, to all the haters and people pointing out the "numerous plot holes and mistakes lolz", I just point them to this article.

[Star-Lord]

Meh, to all the haters and people pointing out the "numerous plot holes and mistakes lolz", I just point them to this article.

That's a great article. I like how this person breaks it all down for the Huntington Post.

"Have you even seen the movie?"

[JuniorChubb]

He makes some good points but just sounds like an angry fanboy who emphasises his point by swearing a lot and knocking other journalist while doing a poor job himself.

[HaythamKenway]

Meh, to all the haters and people pointing out the "numerous plot holes and mistakes lolz", I just point them to this article.

This is pure gold. I love that we're now getting backlash against the backlash, like I said, for a couple of weeks it really felt like I was reading the same regurgitated sh*t over and over again. I guess it wouldn't piss me off as much if so much of the "criticism" weren't superficial nitpicks by people who refuse to read into things a little. I mean, the whole "ANH rehash" thing is a prime example, I've already wrote about how stupid that is. Or the Mary Sue thing. I totally understand where are the people who have a problem with this coming from, but I still consider it an awfully overblown pile of rubbish nonetheless. Just stop and think about what Rey really did and did not do, analyze her character and her actions and put it all in proper context, instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

 

Whatever, since we're still at this, Chris Stuckmann also channeled his inner positive Bizzaro Plinkett and made a pretty impressive almost 40 minute video in the defense of the movie.

 

 

[JuniorChubb]

What's with the defence 'journalism' these days, am I just getting old...?

 

When I was a whipper snapper you didn't defend a film with an article. If you thought a review was overly negative you disregard it as you know the films quality speaks for itself.

 

TFA does not need backlash against the backlash, its holds its own on its own.

 

I guess its the world of click bait that we live in and the hottest bait ATM is TFA.

[HaythamKenway]

Writers taking on each other and attacking each other's opinions is as old as newspapers themselves, this is nothing new. So is discussing and analyzing movies after initial reviews. It's just that the internet is a forum where every random Joe has a voice, instead of just one guy writing a column in a traditional newspaper, so everything is just turned up to eleven.

 

The "backlash against the backlash" thing may be unnecessary, sure, but it's a part of the discussion. People write lenghty pieces on the prequels, both positive and negative, to this day too, it's not like the reviews came out, then the people called the movies an absolute sh*t and that was it for the next ten years.

Edited January 11, 2016 by HaythamKenway

[darthYENIK]

I think it's because the real reviews went out the week it was released, and then as a reaction to all the love, bloggers and hipsters alike put out all these negative reviews, and now it's the opposite. Us fanboys and people who might care too much, are pushing back.

 

I say, don't read a review of a movie written after the first week. They're most likely done by someone who already has an impression of the movie. Like me, I have yet to see Mad Max Fury Road. I already have an impression of that movie. People love it. When I see it, I'm probably going to judge it off of what I've heard of it. If it's not as good as I've heard, I'll like it a lot less than if I've never heard a thing about it.

 

It's a contaminated opinion.

[JuniorChubb]

Writers taking on each other and attacking each other's opinions is as old as newspapers themselves, this is nothing new. So is discussing and analyzing movies after initial reviews. It's just that the internet is a forum where every random Joe has a voice, instead of just one guy writing a column in a traditional newspaper, so everything is just turned up to eleven.

 

The "backlash against the backlash" thing may be unnecessary, sure, but it's a part of the discussion. People write lenghty pieces on the prequels, both positive and negative, to this day too, it's not like the reviews came out, then the people called the movies an absolute sh*t and that was it for the next ten years.

 

True, but not as personally or as viciously as it seems to be today.

 

Like Matty's review for example, personal attacks on the author of the HP review, foul language, completely over exaggerated responses ruin an article that had a few good points splattered in between the trash talking (IMO).

 

Real writers do not enter into petty trash talk articles like that, but then again I suppose a real journalist would know better than to take a Huffington Post article to heart.

 

Added to that its all to easy to post a link to somebody else's opinion than to construct your own (that's in general not directed specifically at you HK ) so there is always fuel for trash talk articles.

Edited January 11, 2016 by JuniorChubb