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American Gun Control discussion and GTA V


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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Then you have a mentally unstable individual in a group of 100 that happens to use guns to create a tragedy. He could of used a bomb, his hands, a knife etc... Things like this have happened before WITHOUT VIDEO GAMES. So, no. Did they hault production on GTAIV when Virginia Tech happened? Did they hault production on GTAIII when Columbine happened?

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After all the recent school shootings i won't be surprised if some politician stands up to ask for a ban on violent video games.

The U.S. Supreme Court last year ruled against a law in California that wanted to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. The constitution protects the sale of video games, and other forms of art and entertainment, through the First Amendment.

 

There simply is no legal backing behind banning violent video games, at all. It didn't happen with films, and it won't happen with video games. While they may be different in how you interact with these two different forms of entertainment, their development and sale is constitutionally protected within the United States.

 

 

As for press coverage, the Grand Theft Auto games have always had a lot of press coverage and attention from politicians. Before the very first GTA was sold, MPs in the UK Parliament were already talking about (and those recordings were used to advertise the game on the radio).

 

Ultimately, as for the question, "Will this affect the release of GTAV?". The answer is no in that it won't be different from any other GTA release.

 

You'll get the usual Glenn Becks talking about it, but this is the norm.

As much as I want you to be right; I just don't trust the Government to follow the Constitution as closely any more. sad.gif

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As a gun owner myself, this whole media outburst on gun control really pisses me off, and why the f*ck is Piers Morgan making so much noise about it, his opinion is void, hes not even american.

 

No derp. Did I ever mention that the majority of United Staters today are Anglo-Saxon descents?

 

 

If they wan't something done, the government will use a fear tactic first. And nothing gets Americans on the side of lying politicians better than a good sob story. Why are we so stupid? And by we, I mean 90% of americans. Did you guys know tht it's so bad that they say if you don't give up your gun, you are mentally ill?

 

It's called self-control. The United Staters simply lack the most. Here's why:

 

First off, it's the political system and second, it's the people who are voters for any political party. They're simply clueless how the politicians do it on the inside. Take that turd FDR and prick Nixon for example. They're just stupid motherf*ckers. Besides, if we wouldn't rely on the PRC often, then we won't have to borrow from them commies anymore. The Chinese were the first people to make firearms, so who cares? The people in the land of opportunity are timid, weak and misunderstood whether they're democrats, libertarians, republicans or some tea party fecal matter.

 

I already know how the political system in this country really is. It's broken, but I'm not going to overthrow the government. We need it for a reason. To fix the political system, fix the culture first. It's still sh*t especially on TV with Honey Boo Boo and Jimmy Kimmel. Thank god for the Housers and The Benz, they have good ways to make fun of the United States.

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As a gun owner myself, this whole media outburst on gun control really pisses me off, and why the f*ck is Piers Morgan making so much noise about it, his opinion is void, hes not even american.

 

No derp. Did I ever mention that the majority of United Staters today are Anglo-Saxon descents?

 

 

No!!im not talking about ancestors or descendents of where americans are from i dont give a f*ck about that right now.

 

Im just saying it pisses me off that Piers Morgan is one of the many forces in the anti-gun movement trying to take my handgun and rifle (as well as other law abiding citizens' guns)

 

He wasnt born here, so i dont think his opinion matters here. He's just here to cash out on his talk show and america's got talent. f*ck piers morgan!

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Alright, but you're not the only person who hates that cocksucking piece of sh*t. I hate him too. I need that crumpet eating prick to go home crying to mama Queen Elizabeth and daddy Charles. We're going to be pissed when they take the guns away. It'll be 10 times worse than the 1992 L.A. riots, but terrifying than the Occupy Movement. Besides, what will happen if Piers Morgan ends up being gun-pointed on his face? Would he realize he needed a gun then? That poor f*cking English bastard.

 

 

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What is wrong with the Americans? Many people in Europe play violent videogames ,and how many shootings occur in Europe every year? I recall 3 shootings in American schools in the last two months. There have been zero in Europe the whole year of 2012. Those gits at the NRA need to stop blaming gaming companies like Rockstar. Did Rockstar or Ubisoft ever massacre children? People need to have the responsibility to only play the video games not re-create them.

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What is wrong with the Americans? Many people in Europe play violent videogames ,and how many shootings occur in Europe every year? I recall 3 shootings in American schools in the last two months. There have been zero in Europe the whole year of 2012. Those gits at the NRA need to stop blaming gaming companies like Rockstar. Did Rockstar or Ubisoft ever massacre children? People need to have the responsibility to only play the video games not re-create them.

It's not even about guns. It's about the stability of these people. In Europe (Primarily the UK), they actually take the time to evaluate the mental stability of people. Compared to the us, it just doesn't happen like it needs to over here.

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France, Spain, Scotland, Ireland and the Czech Republic don't have a lot of those. Even some parts of East Asia, you don't see them either. It's the culture, but we know the US culture sucks dick. That is the culture of the people, never the guns.

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I'm sure we will hear a debate about gun control on talk radio in V. There definitely should be. It should be the loony extremist on both sides of the issue debating though. That way it's funny because there's nuts on both sides. Maybe at the end, they break out into a shoot-out. lol.gif Or a bi**h-slap fight.

 

There will be no gun bans on American soil. EVER. The second amendment is very clear. Many states have already said they will not enforce anything that Obama, Piers Morgan, and all the other traitors want. If any fed is caught trying to arrest someone with an assault weapon in any of these states, that fed will be arrested and charged with a serious crime. Our constitution will not be edited by foriegn or domestic enemies of The United States. Obama is fanning the flames of revolution so *they* can apply martial law. There's no other explanation for what they are doing.

 

The answer is simple in this gun debate: If you own weapons, keep them locked up in a gun safe. If you have a mentally unstabable person in the home, remove the guns. Be responsible like most gun owners are. It's common sense.

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Once it was the erotic copper etchings that caused unnatural rages amongst the populace.

 

Through the years since then it's been horror novels, "video nasties", snuff movies and video games.

 

There's no doubt that in some cases these have formed the trigger for crazy people's final act of madness but that's true of the post being late, losing a job, flunking an exam and a million other reasons.

 

I'm anti-gun, I live in the UK where gun crime is very low and the police aren't armed... but I'm a constitutional libertarian who supports a US citizen's right to bear arms simply because his nation was founded on a Constitution whose governing right is undeniable.

 

Control of the most dangerous and unnecessary weapons should be exercised in any right-minded society but people need to remember that it's not guns that kill, it's crazy people.

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Alright, but you're not the only person who hates that cocksucking piece of sh*t. I hate him too. I need that crumpet eating prick to go home crying to mama Queen Elizabeth and daddy Charles. We're going to be pissed when they take the guns away. It'll be 10 times worse than the 1992 L.A. riots, but terrifying than the Occupy Movement. Besides, what will happen if Piers Morgan ends up being gun-pointed on his face? Would he realize he needed a gun then? That poor f*cking English bastard.

I am scared that some one like you owns a gun, you sound very mentally unstable. If your government took away your guns it would be chaos because crazy men like you just want an excuse to shoot people. Do you even know the penalty for killing a police officer? I'm pretty sure it is life in prison. If the government takes your weapons away there is Option A. give up your guns and live a peaceful life, or Option B. rot in a cell for the rest of your life or end up dead. I live in England and I feel much safer on the streets of London than New York. I feel safe that our police do not need to carry guns. So keep in mind, do you feel safer in a room where nobody has a gun versus a room where everyone has an AR-15? Reflect on that. Cheers,

 

 

 

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Alright, but you're not the only person who hates that cocksucking piece of sh*t. I hate him too. I need that crumpet eating prick to go home crying to mama Queen Elizabeth and daddy Charles. We're going to be pissed when they take the guns away. It'll be 10 times worse than the 1992 L.A. riots, but terrifying than the Occupy Movement. Besides, what will happen if Piers Morgan ends up being gun-pointed on his face? Would he realize he needed a gun then? That poor f*cking English bastard.

I am scared that some one like you owns a gun, you sound very mentally unstable. If your government took away your guns it would be chaos because crazy men like you just want an excuse to shoot people. Do you even know the penalty for killing a police officer? I'm pretty sure it is life in prison. If the government takes your weapons away there is Option A. give up your guns and live a peaceful life, or Option B. rot in a cell for the rest of your life or end up dead. I live in England and I feel much safer on the streets of London than New York. I feel safe that our police do not need to carry guns. So keep in mind, do you feel safer in a room where nobody has a gun versus a room where everyone has an AR-15? Reflect on that. Cheers,

I reported his post for the last line, but nobody seems to care. confused.gif

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Sorry if this topic is already discussed here, i did a quick search, didn't find anything related.

 

Do you guys think the recent discussion on Gun Control in the United States will affect the release of GTA V.

How do you think the American press will respond to this game when it comes out?

Do you think parents will be influenced by the press and forbid their kids to buy this game?

GTA V is not for kids. It's rated M for Mature. Like previous GTAs. And it's a game for adults.

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Alright, but you're not the only person who hates that cocksucking piece of sh*t. I hate him too. I need that crumpet eating prick to go home crying to mama Queen Elizabeth and daddy Charles. We're going to be pissed when they take the guns away. It'll be 10 times worse than the 1992 L.A. riots, but terrifying than the Occupy Movement. Besides, what will happen if Piers Morgan ends up being gun-pointed on his face? Would he realize he needed a gun then? That poor f*cking English bastard.

I am scared that some one like you owns a gun, you sound very mentally unstable. If your government took away your guns it would be chaos because crazy men like you just want an excuse to shoot people. Do you even know the penalty for killing a police officer? I'm pretty sure it is life in prison. If the government takes your weapons away there is Option A. give up your guns and live a peaceful life, or Option B. rot in a cell for the rest of your life or end up dead. I live in England and I feel much safer on the streets of London than New York. I feel safe that our police do not need to carry guns. So keep in mind, do you feel safer in a room where nobody has a gun versus a room where everyone has an AR-15? Reflect on that. Cheers,

People who own a gun just want an excuse to shoot people??????? mercie_blink.gif Really dude?

 

I own many guns and use them for hunting, sporting, and home defense. Everyone I know owns guns. None of us have ever murdered anyone. I never leave any of my guns lying around loaded for anyone to get to because I am a responsible gun owner and have a gun safe. A gun ban will never happen in America. Most states will not enforce it and any federal agents caught trying to arrest someone will find themselves being arrested on sight. The second amendment is very clear.

 

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R* needs to parody this issue because of how hot it is. But none of it matters because the second amendment is very clear. What about as many people who have been murdered with a knife? Ban knives!!!! And pencils!! Oh, and if trust the U.S. gov. or police, then you are ignorant. Once a government takes all the guns, they become a tyrannical government everytime.

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Alright, but you're not the only person who hates that cocksucking piece of sh*t. I hate him too. I need that crumpet eating prick to go home crying to mama Queen Elizabeth and daddy Charles. We're going to be pissed when they take the guns away. It'll be 10 times worse than the 1992 L.A. riots, but terrifying than the Occupy Movement. Besides, what will happen if Piers Morgan ends up being gun-pointed on his face? Would he realize he needed a gun then? That poor f*cking English bastard.

I am scared that some one like you owns a gun, you sound very mentally unstable. If your government took away your guns it would be chaos because crazy men like you just want an excuse to shoot people. Do you even know the penalty for killing a police officer? I'm pretty sure it is life in prison. If the government takes your weapons away there is Option A. give up your guns and live a peaceful life, or Option B. rot in a cell for the rest of your life or end up dead. I live in England and I feel much safer on the streets of London than New York. I feel safe that our police do not need to carry guns. So keep in mind, do you feel safer in a room where nobody has a gun versus a room where everyone has an AR-15? Reflect on that. Cheers,

People who own a gun just want an excuse to shoot people??????? mercie_blink.gif Really dude?

 

I own many guns and use them for hunting, sporting, and home defense. Everyone I know owns guns. None of us have ever murdered anyone. I never leave any of my guns lying around loaded for anyone to get to because I am a responsible gun owner and have a gun safe. A gun ban will never happen in America. Most states will not enforce it and any federal agents caught trying to arrest someone will find themselves being arrested on sight. The second amendment is very clear.

 

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R* needs to parody this issue because of how hot it is. But none of it matters because the second amendment is very clear. What about as many people who have been murdered with a knife? Ban knives!!!! And pencils!! Oh, and if trust the U.S. gov. or police, then you are ignorant. Once a government takes all the guns, they become a tyrannical government everytime.

There are plenty of responsible gun owners. It is those people who say they are going to kill police when the government takes their guns away, those are the people I am scared of. You sound like a very reasonable man and I would trust you with a gun but that guy Lawlzmachine is f*cking crazy and I would not want him anywhere near me with a rifle.

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The gun lobbyists would love to shift blame to any game vs. the real problem, the accessability of firearms to mentally unstable folks, it's harder to get birth control in America than it is firearms.

 

But logically I hope we're in a place now where we don't ban games that haven't been released, books that haven't been written or movies yet to be made based on Washingtong special interest groups and the corrupt politicians in their expensivly lined little pockets.

 

But I've been wrong before, in a way it's too bad we don't have ole JT popping up like a one man Westboro Baptist Church everywhere a Rockstar Games title is sold with a megaphone and sandwish board scrawled with THE END IS NIGH on one side and SNIFF SNIFF on the other. >.>

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If anything did happen it would be fox news talking about it like it was going to happen.

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Yeah, you can get a gun but not a videogame? Well its america so who knows biggrin.gif

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The emphasis should be put on parents controlling what they buy for their kids, not on attacking the video game industry.

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What is wrong with the Americans? Many people in Europe play violent videogames ,and how many shootings occur in Europe every year? I recall 3 shootings in American schools in the last two months. There have been zero in Europe the whole year of 2012. Those gits at the NRA need to stop blaming gaming companies like Rockstar. Did Rockstar or Ubisoft ever massacre children? People need to have the responsibility to only play the video games not re-create them.

Norway is still slightly ahead of the USA in terms of body count. Did anybody every track down whether the Norway nut case played video games? I don't remember.

 

"The government can take my Xbox when they pry it from my cold, dead hands."

 

And in my sig, at the moment, is an excerpt from the NRA reaction to the recent elementary school shootings, where the NRA head honcho points the finger at video games.

 

On topic, if any effects occur at all to GTAV, I think that it will be in terms of finding a way to hit the NRA sarcastically. Ammunation was Rockstar's sly sarcasm on America's gun situation back in GTA III. It was particularly ironic in Liberty City, since it was already illegal to own an unregistered weapon in New York City.

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I am scared that some one like you owns a gun, you sound very mentally unstable. If your government took away your guns it would be chaos because crazy men like you just want an excuse to shoot people. Do you even know the penalty for killing a police officer? I'm pretty sure it is life in prison. If the government takes your weapons away there is Option A. give up your guns and live a peaceful life, or Option B. rot in a cell for the rest of your life or end up dead. I live in England and I feel much safer on the streets of London than New York. I feel safe that our police do not need to carry guns. So keep in mind, do you feel safer in a room where nobody has a gun versus a room where everyone has an AR-15? Reflect on that. Cheers.

Brother, I never own a gun. What makes you think that I'm a gun owner? As I mentioned in the other thread about the Sandy Hook incident, I never like to own one even though I like 'em. I am never ever like Adam Lanza and never as those US autistic children with parents who lack responsibility. As you know, I am autistic too, but the parenting comes from discipline in the Philippines. Therefore, my family already know better than their families here when it comes to firearms. The Philippine people are socially conservative on them, so we made the sales harder back home. In the US, it's the other way around. Simply saying, the political spectrum flips.

 

 

I reported his post for the last line, but nobody seems to care.  confused.gif

 

Dude, I am a bigot type, but that doesn't mean I hate all European descents. I only despise the English if one, they don't work hard yet they show unethical business practices (ex. British Petroleum) or two, they show support to the Royal Family of England. Nobody cares, man. The only thing I want the English people to do, is to shut up, sit down, wake the f*ck up and stop praising Queen Elizabeth like their mom or some bee queen. UK would have been better if it's a republic government by now.

 

PS.

 

No offense, UK citizens, but your political system is just as fecal matter as the United States. As I was saying, video games are form of art and interaction. If people recreate these events outside, they better prepare for the wrath of god.

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Nah, I dont see the correlation. Entertainment lives off of the use of violent and explosive weapons. Has nothing to do with the types of weapons the government allows for people to legally purchase.

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we'll see what happens

I dont know why u edited ur post but lmfaooo at what u previously said. Did she know that GTA IV had a minority as its protagonist?????????????????????????????? suicidal.gif

 

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we'll see what happens

I dont know why u edited ur post but lmfaooo at what u previously said. Did she know that GTA IV had a minority as its protagonist?????????????????????????????? suicidal.gif

 

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well to be fair

 

Niko= White (Eastern European)

 

Johnny= White

 

Luis= Hispanic

 

 

still it was probably dumbest thing i ever seen

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Did anybody every track down whether the Norway nut case played video games? I don't remember.

He did actually play COD to practice his shooting wow.gif

So please somebody stop COD it creates nutcases!

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Video games are protected under the first amendment just like guns are under the second. GTA V is not going to be affected in any way.

 

Fox News will be their usual ignorant self and spout off lies about it just like they do with any other game they don't like.

 

Any sensible media outlet will ignore it because they know there are far more important things to report and discuss than a damn game.

 

 

 

 

 

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