BlackNoise Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I can't believe I missed this article back in November. It's the best one I've found and it really got me thinking about "multiple protagonists" differently. I'm thinking the switch mechanic might fix the problem of stupid friendly AI, which also allows them to do much more. Whenever you think they're acting dumb, you can just switch to them. We'll never leave friends behind anymore or other stupid sh*t like that. If Franklin needs weapons, remember what Trevor says in the 2nd trailer, "The guns and crank in this area go through Trevor Phillips Enterprises...". What if you can call Trevor when you're playing as Franklin or Michael, and Trevor drives the weapons to you. This also means you can switch to Trevor and drive the weapons to yourself if you want, and this will help get them to your exact location. And what if Trevor could then become backup for you if you need him. You could fight the cops/enemies from different angles as you switch between characters. R* has found a way to make the friendly AI much smarter by allowing the player to take control whenever they want. This is what got me thinking... Dan Houser says... "You have other people you can hang out with, but the main people you choose are the other protagonists," he says, stressing that the intricacies are still being worked on. "If you're playing as Michael and you want to play a game of tennis, you can call up Franklin and ask him. You are actually getting to see the main bulk of the story and also spend time with these people off-mission – that side of it gives it a vibrancy that's a lot stronger than with Roman or anyone else. If the main people you choose are the other protagonists, then it's possible they might do everything friends did for you in GTA IV. Franklin delivers vehicles( maybe his friend Lamar delivers to him?) , Trevor delivers weapons(maybe his friend Ron delivers to him?), and Michael could possibly deal with higher end sh*t like his more professional level tools/weapons? It's possible we can switch to these characters at any time during this process. Imagine struggling to use one protag to help another during battle? Just think about everything we might use friends for, but also think about having the ability to play from their perspective at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRob Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolstream Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 So you're saying we should switch between protagonists constantly? Meh, I'd rather just shoot the two others and make it on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackNoise Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 So you're saying we should switch between protagonists constantly? Meh, I'd rather just shoot the two others and make it on my own. I'm not saying we have to, but I'm just thinking we might have the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwalker83 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Those friend activities in GTA IV were annoying! I hope you don't have to do them to get a 100% in GTA V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It has actually been stated by Rockstar in previews that some missions will involve two or all three protagonists and that we would have to switch between protagonists on some missions while in others, we would be given the option to play as either one or the other/s. So yes, I guess you could say that you will be able to use each of the protagonists to support the others, and then switch around to do the same for the others and so on - it will certainly make for some rather interesting gameplay. I can also imagine each of the protagonists providing support in some capacity to the protagonist who you are playing as when you are not on a mission - whether that will be in unique weapons or not, I don't know, but it is possible. As for the stupid AI, I am hoping that is fixed and not just for friendly AI. Red Dead Redemption's friendly AI and its NPC AI in general was pretty good, and you couldn't shoot friendly characters even if you wanted to as John Marston would aim the gun away from them and the cross-hair would turn blue. I think that this will be the same with GTA V (in fact, I think it has also been stated that you wouldn't be able to shoot at any protagonist that you're not playing as) IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm slightly concerned that there will be a very small cast and 90% of the game will be with these 3 protags. IV had a big cast of characters and a few friends - i dont want to hang out with franklin and trevor all the time especially if i'm spending 75% with them in missions The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Mario Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Hmm.. that seems like a hassle. I'd rather concentrate on 1 person in a certain situations and only switch when necessary or when a switch could be a good benefit to me. I also wonder what will happen if I as Trevor shoot Franklin or Micheal. Will the game be over, or will they respawn at a nearby hospital, or will an ambulance revive them at the spot, or can we revive them as players? And what will they think of you when they are back alive again? Will they hate you? :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzNutz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm slightly concerned that there will be a very small cast and 90% of the game will be with these 3 protags. IV had a big cast of characters and a few friends - i dont want to hang out with franklin and trevor all the time especially if i'm spending 75% with them in missions So don't... Simple as that. I on the other hand can not wait to get Trevor in a copter and shoot out the side with Frank at the same time. I'm personally looking forward to the switching feature the most. It's going to be like having Dwaynes back upin GTA IV, except whenever they start acting dumb you'll be able to switch to them and take complete control of the situation. Imagine having 3 different point of views in a GTA game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm slightly concerned that there will be a very small cast and 90% of the game will be with these 3 protags. IV had a big cast of characters and a few friends - i dont want to hang out with franklin and trevor all the time especially if i'm spending 75% with them in missions So don't... Simple as that. I on the other hand can not wait to get Trevor in a copter and shoot out the side with Frank at the same time. I'm personally looking forward to the switching feature the most. It's going to be like having Dwaynes back upin GTA IV, except whenever they start acting dumb you'll be able to switch to them and take complete control of the situation. Imagine having 3 different point of views in a GTA game One thing i loved about IV is when i wanted to hang out with someone in game, I had a choice - Brucie, Dwayne, Roman, Packie, any of the girls.... It got annoying in BOGT always doing sh*t with the same whiney pricks everytime. My point is, i will want to play tennis, or whatever else is there, but not with the same people i'm spending most of missions with. Variety, man variety. I'm not questioning the 3 character switching feature, but more on how big the supporting cast will be. each character should have several friends independent of the others that we can hang with. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolstream Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I on the other hand can not wait to get Trevor in a copter and shoot out the side with Frank at the same time. I'm personally looking forward to the switching feature the most. It's going to be like having Dwaynes back upin GTA IV, except whenever they start acting dumb you'll be able to switch to them and take complete control of the situation. Imagine having 3 different point of views in a GTA game Oh wow, I will die of laughter if it turns out the other AI protagonists can't handle the chopper or they automatically fly away from the area you're shooting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotjoBoss Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 ^This. I guess Micheal can hang out with his kids and wife and Franklin with his buddy and his girl/wife. And you saw Trevor with 2 other dudes when he was kicking that guys ass in the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzNutz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I on the other hand can not wait to get Trevor in a copter and shoot out the side with Frank at the same time. I'm personally looking forward to the switching feature the most. It's going to be like having Dwaynes back upin GTA IV, except whenever they start acting dumb you'll be able to switch to them and take complete control of the situation. Imagine having 3 different point of views in a GTA game Oh wow, I will die of laughter if it turns out the other AI protagonists can't handle the chopper or they automatically fly away from the area you're shooting at. The AI's driving skills will probably be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvanceTrak RSC Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sorry, gta5 will still be using the III era AI just like IV did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ill-thoughts Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 i loved the a.I. in Godfather 2, those guys were as smart as it gets. they took Cover behind Anything without having to be told and Actually Killed People Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverBlazin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You are too far from Jimmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Footpenis Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm slightly concerned that there will be a very small cast and 90% of the game will be with these 3 protags. IV had a big cast of characters and a few friends - i dont want to hang out with franklin and trevor all the time especially if i'm spending 75% with them in missions So don't... Simple as that. I on the other hand can not wait to get Trevor in a copter and shoot out the side with Frank at the same time. I'm personally looking forward to the switching feature the most. It's going to be like having Dwaynes back upin GTA IV, except whenever they start acting dumb you'll be able to switch to them and take complete control of the situation. Imagine having 3 different point of views in a GTA game One thing i loved about IV is when i wanted to hang out with someone in game, I had a choice - Brucie, Dwayne, Roman, Packie, any of the girls.... It got annoying in BOGT always doing sh*t with the same whiney pricks everytime. My point is, i will want to play tennis, or whatever else is there, but not with the same people i'm spending most of missions with. Variety, man variety. I'm not questioning the 3 character switching feature, but more on how big the supporting cast will be. each character should have several friends independent of the others that we can hang with. Well apart from the three protags we have: Michael's family, Trevor's "crazy friends", Lamar, the woman yelling at Franklin, the Armenian guy and whoever else works at the dealership, and mystery characters from IV. OT: This could definitely solve some issues with stupid AI, but I'd like it if they didn't make those stupid mistakes in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugotsmoked Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Sorry, gta5 will still be using the III era AI just like IV did. My 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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