My Cargo Plane Theory

[VATG]

almost all of the screens R* have released are connected and are from the same mission.

[Deffpony]

almost all of the screens R* have released are connected and are from the same mission.

I wouldnt say that. Theres no way that the same mission where Michael rapells down the building is connected with trevor flying a cargo plane, and then they all make a getaway in a yellow submarine just before a shark attacks them

[fliplip]

I don't agree with your theory. Even if the plane is damaged like you say, why on earth would you if you were Trevor 1. release the car from whatever it's attached to (I'm no expert but I reckon they tie cars down when they put them on planes) 2. get in the car 3. start it up 4. drive off the plane and then 5. jump out of the car as soon as it leaves the plane. Wouldn't it make more sense to just jump out of the f*cking plane. By the looks of it he's in no rush, he's at a high altitude so the planes not going to suddenly crash, it could blow up but I wouldn't risk the added time of steps 1-5. He already had a parachute on, why go to the effort of driving off, why not run off???

[Spex84]

@fliplip:

 

One possible reason for Trevor to drive the car out, and then bail, could be that there is something in the car that he wants to take with him, to salvage after it hits the ground. Drugs packed into the body panels perhaps? Maybe something too heavy to carry/hold in his arms as he parachutes to safety...gold? Gold bars would survive a fall better than packages of drugs.

I guess we'll have to wait and find out

 

*EDIT*

Oh yeah, the damaged airframe thing...it IS possible that there are one-sided polygons and we're seeing through the transparent skin of the model from inside, but I find it hard to imagine that Rockstar would let a modeling gaffe that obvious into their carefully-produced video!

I'm curious, because most GTA models don't have that style of damage model, and those that DO are one-off model-swaps (like collapsing buildings, etc). There's a possibility that he's flying a plane that _began_ damaged...maybe it was abandoned or something and he got it flying? Damage with little panels falling off is fairly inconsistent with the damage modeling in GTA IV.

Mafia II had select areas with props and features (like glass-block walls) that could be shot into pieces, kind of like Stranglehold's damage system. But that was for architecture, not vehicles.

Edited January 14, 2013 by Spex84

[Crimewave]

[VATG]

 

almost all of the screens R* have released are connected and are from the same mission.

I wouldnt say that. Theres no way that the same mission where Michael rapells down the building is connected with trevor flying a cargo plane, and then they all make a getaway in a yellow submarine just before a shark attacks them

actually most of the Michael screens are from the same mission.

 

[mrSQUADKINGS]

i my eyes it seems like the plane are forced to land by order from the F16 pilot.. maybe bacause of damage.. And when the car exit the plane it looks like the plane are slowly tipping down. maybe it ends up maydays into the ochean - for then later in the story it comes to the minisub to dive down the the airplanewreck and search for missing stuff... idk, its just fantasy

Edited January 14, 2013 by mrSQUADKINGS

[NudasPriest]

I was going to bring up this picture, has the plane been ID'd as the same one?

[mrSQUADKINGS]

I was going to bring up this picture, has the plane been ID'd as the same one?

Thats a diffrent plane. way smaller one and not a cargo plane.

[Prometheus]

 

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/4.jpg

I was going to bring up this picture, has the plane been ID'd as the same one?

Thats a diffrent plane. way smaller one and not a cargo plane.

True, it's pretty clear from the engines it's not the same cargo plane, let alone the size of the plane.

[mrSQUADKINGS]

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/4.jpg

I was going to bring up this picture, has the plane been ID'd as the same one?

Thats a diffrent plane. way smaller one and not a cargo plane.

True, it's pretty clear from the engines it's not the same cargo plane, let alone the size of the plane.

yea the plane in this picture is the smal passenger jet (shamal) from SA.

 

Cargoplane is way bigger. (Andromada) C-5 Galaxy

 

IM sooo hoping that this cargoplane is flyable in Online free mode. imagine putting many friends in it then take off and cross the map.

 

[SmoothGetaway]

I said something similar a while ago but was wondering why he drives a jeep out instead of just jumping out. Thinking about it again, it's probably safer to exit out the back of a damaged & falling plane in a metal cage (jeep). I hope it's not an entirely scripted sequence & that you are just told to get out of the plane asap. When you go into the cargo hold there is a jeep, motorbike & a tank. You can drive a vehicle out or run & jump out the back. If you drive a vehicle out you can stay in it (fire cannon in the tank) but the fighter jet will 're-engage' & fire on your vehicle. I"m sure Rockstar's version will be infinitely better.

Yea its a possibility. But like I said, it doesnt make sense. The plane seems damaged but not alot. I guess we will find out in april/may

As far as a cage(jeep) being safer to jump out of a damaged aircraft with vs not I have to disagree. I skydive for a living and jump out of one of these quite frequently:

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=skyvan&ie=U...ro%22%3A0%7D%5D

 

Including once where the aircraft was starting to dive because the number two engine decided it wanted to burst into pieces. Exciting times

 

I think it's far more likely that Trevor wants whatever is in the jeep and does whatever it takes to get it to the ground.

[Durden]

Also noticeable:

 

Trevor bails out of the vehicle very quickly. This looks very good, as it got annoying in IV how you took long to exit vehicles. Hopefully this is a sign that animations in general are faster.

[Prometheus]

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/4.jpg

I was going to bring up this picture, has the plane been ID'd as the same one?

Thats a diffrent plane. way smaller one and not a cargo plane.

True, it's pretty clear from the engines it's not the same cargo plane, let alone the size of the plane.

yea the plane in this picture is the smal passenger jet (shamal) from SA.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was that jet plane was proven to be the Cuban 800, even though it is "structurally" similar to the Shamal - well, to an extent.

[mrSQUADKINGS]

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/4.jpg

I was going to bring up this picture, has the plane been ID'd as the same one?

Thats a diffrent plane. way smaller one and not a cargo plane.

True, it's pretty clear from the engines it's not the same cargo plane, let alone the size of the plane.

yea the plane in this picture is the smal passenger jet (shamal) from SA.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was that jet plane was proven to be the Cuban 800, even though it is "structurally" similar to the Shamal - well, to an extent.

youll see the back wing is at the top on the shamal.

 

and the cuban got engines on each of the wings

 

This picture is definatly the Shamal that you see in the end of 1st trailer^^,

[XTREME0235]

I think at first glance as well as watching that scene in motion, one would initially confuse the frame of the aircraft to be fine but when we take a look at still images and look at them closer we can see the frame (or skin) is clearly damaged. But the damage is only minimal.

 

Take a look at these two images.

Compare the outlined sections to the rest of the frame, you can see some loose parts of the skeleton that look broken or out of place.

 

[jdrandall38]

Could be. I hear ya.

[GTA_stu]

I saw some CVG video analysis and they had the same idea, it'd certainly make sense. Another possibility is that perhaps Trevor hijacks it whilst it is already damaged, maybe awaiting repairs or something. He has to escape in a rush so he just grabs it. I reckon the jet hitting it with a missile is more likely though.

[blowdro420]

my thing is, even if there were something in the jeep, would it not be destroyed upon impact? especially from that altitude. trevor isn't wearing scuba gear. plus you can clearly see that when trevor jumps out of said jeep, it is indeed over land and not the ocean.

[Deffpony]

I think at first glance as well as watching that scene in motion, one would initially confuse the frame of the aircraft to be fine but when we take a look at still images and look at them closer we can see the frame (or skin) is clearly damaged. But the damage is only minimal.

 

Take a look at these two images.

Compare the outlined sections to the rest of the frame, you can see some loose parts of the skeleton that look broken or out of place.

 

snip

Thanks... thats exaactly what Im talking about

[SmoothGetaway]

my thing is, even if there were something in the jeep, would it not be destroyed upon impact? especially from that altitude. trevor isn't wearing scuba gear. plus you can clearly see that when trevor jumps out of said jeep, it is indeed over land and not the ocean.

The short answer to this is no.

 

The more accurate answer is it completely depends on what is inside the jeep. Drugs probably wouldn't fare too well but cash or other precious metals would be fine. Btw the altitude doesn't really matter as objects generally pick up speed(to terminal velocity) on exit from an aircraft, but once they are terminal, speed changes are minimal. I'd guess we're only gonna get about a 16,500ft max altitude ceiling anyway.

 

Hope that helps.

[Deffpony]

Maybe Trevor is merely using the jeep to get out of the plane quicker and safer

[NONative]

 

Maybe Trevor is merely using the jeep to get out of the plane quicker and safer

Meaning the jeep was in the back, or front so to speak, of the cargo hold near the cockpit?

 

I agree.

[Deffpony]

Maybe Trevor is merely using the jeep to get out of the plane quicker and safer

Meaning the jeep was in the back, or front so to speak, of the cargo hold near the cockpit?

 

I agree.

Yea for all we know he drove the jeep all the way down the cabin of the aircraft. We just happen to see the end portion.

[NONative]

Maybe Trevor is merely using the jeep to get out of the plane quicker and safer

Meaning the jeep was in the back, or front so to speak, of the cargo hold near the cockpit?

 

I agree.

Yea for all we know he drove the jeep all the way down the cabin of the aircraft. We just happen to see the end portion.

Makes sence if the footing also has been distrubed by a crashing plane. Moving back and forth would make a escape difficult. If you look at 1:20 of trailer two Deff you are 100% right. The plane is is twisting in the air. Trevor needs the jeep to get out quick.

[spaskiller1]

I'm pretty sure the plane is going down because you can see the sun from the inside of the plane meaning that the back of the plane is towards the sun so the rear of the plane must be pointing down. And you can also see how the car jumps a bit. I think there is some kind of army stuff in that jeep that trevor wants to destroy. I'm pretty sure that the plane hasn't been shot. It's just old.

[Deffpony]

I'm pretty sure the plane is going down because you can see the sun from the inside of the plane meaning that the back of the plane is towards the sun so the rear of the plane must be pointing down. And you can also see how the car jumps a bit. I think there is some kind of army stuff in that jeep that trevor wants to destroy. I'm pretty sure that the plane hasn't been shot. It's just old.

Planes aren't like cars that you can just drive around all beat up. There's no way a plane would take off if it was missing its skin.

 

The plan is definitely nose down. You can tell by the position of the horizon once the jeep drive out. It's like this

 

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[SkylineGTRFreak]

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-phot...7/5/1282579.jpg

 

Albeit smaller, this is what a typical cargo door looks like. Notice you can see the aircraft frame and skeleton. But in the trailer shot the frame is perforated like the skin has been damaged.

 

Now it's important to mention that the plane Trevor is flying is based off the c5 galaxy which has a nose configured cargo door. But there is no way on earth that door could be opened in flight.

 

Knowing rockstar an how some vehicle models are only inspired by real life vehicles I would assume that the c5 galaxy like aircraft would have a rear cargo door like most other cargo planes. Making it possible to open in flight.

 

If the plane was shot at the skin would indeed peel off which is what appears to happened in the op

Uhm, the C-5 Galaxy does have a rear cargo exist (4 doors int otal there, one main ramp, 2 folding outwards and one upwards)

 

 

 

 

But good spot on the damaged part, in the trailer I just thought it was the sun lightning into the plane.

[mrSQUADKINGS]

 

I think at first glance as well as watching that scene in motion, one would initially confuse the frame of the aircraft to be fine but when we take a look at still images and look at them closer we can see the frame (or skin) is clearly damaged. But the damage is only minimal.

 

Take a look at these two images.

Compare the outlined sections to the rest of the frame, you can see some loose parts of the skeleton that look broken or out of place.

 

i think thats definatly damage. youll see the sun shine through the structure.

with GTAIVs damage system they definatly uprgraded it in GTAV, so i think this is damage, theyd probably made the planes detailed with damage aswell and made them loose plates etc.

 

this plane are also slowly tipping down as its on its way to mayday. or ordered to land.

 

No doubt. its damage. he knows its on the way to mayday and then jumps out of it.

Edited January 17, 2013 by mrSQUADKINGS

[Dariuss]

You're right man! the plane is damanged.

The planes damange looks very nice and detalied.That's a nice sign!