My Cargo Plane Theory

[Deffpony]

I think that the picture of Trevor in the big plane and the scene where Trevor drives the jeep out of the cargo plane are connected.

 

I think that while Trevor is flying the cargo plane he is shot at by the fighter jet. The back of the cargo plane gets destroyed forcing Trevor to bail via the jeep. If you look at the scene closely you can see the back of the airframe appears damaged, with skeletal structure showing and aircraft skin missing.

 

 

 

What do u think

[AdvanceTrak RSC]

Its a possibility I think you could have hit the nail in the head...well see

[Chm0]

 

Or maybe he have to ship stolen weapons or drugs but he get get caught and the pilots ask him to land the plane

[Deffpony]

Or maybe he have to ship stolen weapons or drugs but he get get caught and the pilots ask him to land the plane

Then why is the plane damages??

[Chm0]

Then why is the plane damages??

 

You are crazy lmao, I just noticed that the back of the plane is damaged

 

 

[leeradio13]

yes, they're connected... trevor is disappointed and is thinking about suicide because rockstar decided on the f16 and not the legendary f15 eagle.

[johncs154]

I don't think its damaged, just that it has no texture yet.. the plane is most likely still being modeled. If it was damaged then there should be fire and or structural affliction. It looks as if the cargo door is fully functioning. I do believe its the same plane as the screenshot though.

[CrisFormageKIFFLOM]

looks to me like its just an old plane thats had its day...

 

they seem to be related...

[Deffpony]

I don't think its damaged, just that it has no texture yet.. the plane is most likely still being modeled. If it was damaged then there should be fire and or structural affliction. It looks as if the cargo door is fully functioning. I do believe its the same plane as the screenshot though.

I've only worked on a few military cargo planes, but that's definitely not a normal cargo door config. That damaged part of the aircraft should be smooth.

 

And to say that they would include an unfinished model of a plane in a scene in one of the trailers is absurd

[Adriaan]

I don't think its damaged, just that it has no texture yet.. the plane is most likely still being modeled. If it was damaged then there should be fire and or structural affliction. It looks as if the cargo door is fully functioning. I do believe its the same plane as the screenshot though.

That's not how it works. In 3d, it doesn't work the same as in real life.

 

It takes far more effort to model the damaged geometry than it is to just model a smooth edge.

 

And given deffpony worked with these planes before when he was in the U.S. Coast guard, his input on this is quite valuable.

[FAH-Q]

What kind of magnifying glass are you using today?

[kj2022]

is it just me or does the jeep sorta lift before exiting the plane? could be a sign that the planes going down?

[Tomeu Penya]

 

is it just me or does the jeep sorta lift before exiting the plane? could be a sign that the planes going down?

I think it's just the suspension getting off the ground.

[Chm0]

 

Looks like they improved the damage system on vehicles

[Deffpony]

I don't think its damaged, just that it has no texture yet.. the plane is most likely still being modeled. If it was damaged then there should be fire and or structural affliction. It looks as if the cargo door is fully functioning. I do believe its the same plane as the screenshot though.

That's not how it works. In 3d, it doesn't work the same as in real life.

 

It takes far more effort to model the damaged geometry than it is to just model a smooth edge.

 

And given deffpony worked with these planes before when he was in the U.S. Coast guard, his input on this is quite valuable.

My work on cargo planes was very limited so its very possible I'm wrong but I have never seen a cargo door that looked like scaffolding.

 

@killjoy: yea, the horizon positioning seems to suggest that the plane is slightly nose down.

 

 

When I first saw this I thought, " if the plane was struck there would be smoke" but the truth is smoke and fire come from burning fuel, which comes from the engines, not the frame.

 

Just like in IV. When the chopper takes damage the smoke comes from the engines

[Prometheus]

When I first saw this I thought, " if the plane was struck there would be smoke" but the truth is smoke and fire come from burning fuel, which comes from the engines, not the frame.

 

Just like in IV. When the chopper takes damage the smoke comes from the engines

True, but if the plane's frame was damaged in such way, wouldn't there be a quite noticeable form of deformation on the structure?

 

If you ask me, my guess is that it could be the plane's normal structure.

[Bluepolitician]

Hopefully gets shot down in this thing over the ocean with precious cargo. He jumps out and later the crew has to take that sub and find that sh*t.

[BullworthAcademy]

You are right!

[DeadZombie]

My thought is that you have to steal some gear that's Miltary grade from the base but things go sour he takes off with the cargo. Grabs it before he leaves and you have to dodge/stuff in the cargo plane with the car. Possibly a parachute the car for whatever reason maybe.

 

The gear is for a heist main mission

[kj2022]

When I first saw this I thought, " if the plane was struck there would be smoke" but the truth is smoke and fire come from burning fuel, which comes from the engines, not the frame.

 

Just like in IV. When the chopper takes damage the smoke comes from the engines

True, but if the plane's frame was damaged in such way, wouldn't there be a quite noticeable form of deformation on the structure?

 

If you ask me, my guess is that it could be the plane's normal structure.

if the plane was damaged, but that section was hit by bullets, not rockets, would it cause any frame deformity though? or would the panels damaged simply tear off?

[iTz i Makez HD]

Good theory

I like it, BTW, I didn't know that the plane was crashed

[DeadZombie]

When I first saw this I thought, " if the plane was struck there would be smoke" but the truth is smoke and fire come from burning fuel, which comes from the engines, not the frame.

 

Just like in IV. When the chopper takes damage the smoke comes from the engines

True, but if the plane's frame was damaged in such way, wouldn't there be a quite noticeable form of deformation on the structure?

 

If you ask me, my guess is that it could be the plane's normal structure.

if the plane was damaged, but that section was hit by bullets, not rockets, would it cause any frame deformity though? or would the panels damaged simply tear off?

I'd say so. Jet MG ammo is big enough to tear planes with weaker hulls to shreds

[Prometheus]

When I first saw this I thought, " if the plane was struck there would be smoke" but the truth is smoke and fire come from burning fuel, which comes from the engines, not the frame.

 

Just like in IV. When the chopper takes damage the smoke comes from the engines

True, but if the plane's frame was damaged in such way, wouldn't there be a quite noticeable form of deformation on the structure?

 

If you ask me, my guess is that it could be the plane's normal structure.

if the plane was damaged, but that section was hit by bullets, not rockets, would it cause any frame deformity though? or would the panels damaged simply tear off?

I don't think it could the panels could just get teared [without causing any damage to the structure] just by such weapons, regardless of the type of bullets used - using common sense, it's just not quite possible.

[Deffpony]

 

Albeit smaller, this is what a typical cargo door looks like. Notice you can see the aircraft frame and skeleton. But in the trailer shot the frame is perforated like the skin has been damaged.

 

Now it's important to mention that the plane Trevor is flying is based off the c5 galaxy which has a nose configured cargo door. But there is no way on earth that door could be opened in flight.

 

Knowing rockstar an how some vehicle models are only inspired by real life vehicles I would assume that the c5 galaxy like aircraft would have a rear cargo door like most other cargo planes. Making it possible to open in flight.

 

If the plane was shot at the skin would indeed peel off which is what appears to happened in the op

[Prometheus]

 

If the plane was shot at the skin would indeed peel off which is what appears to happened in the op

Well if this is true, then common sense has failed me once again.

 

But the question here is, whoever did it - how were they able to shoot the plane from a such high altitude? also I just can't see how the skin would fall off with no damage whatsoever caused at the structure.

[Specs_1992]

Some cargo planes are like that when the cargo door is open obviously if it was closed it would all be sealed off

[Deffpony]

There would need to be enough damage that the integrity of the panels was degregated enough. The airspeed would then rip them off. Aircraft structures are extremely strong and difficult to destroy.

 

 

That helicopter was doing about 80 knots if I remember correctly before it hit the mountain side. The main aircraft structure is being used to build a new h-60 and was virtually unscathed in the crash.

 

But I'm not completely convinced that it is in fact damaged in the trailer shot. The edges just outside the cargo door are very smooth and uniform. But I have never seen an aircraft with a tail that has a perforate frame like that.

 

@spec 1992: can you please show me a picture. Like I said I've only worked on 3 types of fixed wing aircraft but that just seems like its not right

[jamieleng]

I said something similar a while ago but was wondering why he drives a jeep out instead of just jumping out. Thinking about it again, it's probably safer to exit out the back of a damaged & falling plane in a metal cage (jeep). I hope it's not an entirely scripted sequence & that you are just told to get out of the plane asap. When you go into the cargo hold there is a jeep, motorbike & a tank. You can drive a vehicle out or run & jump out the back. If you drive a vehicle out you can stay in it (fire cannon in the tank) but the fighter jet will 're-engage' & fire on your vehicle. I"m sure Rockstar's version will be infinitely better.

[Deffpony]

I said something similar a while ago but was wondering why he drives a jeep out instead of just jumping out. Thinking about it again, it's probably safer to exit out the back of a damaged & falling plane in a metal cage (jeep). I hope it's not an entirely scripted sequence & that you are just told to get out of the plane asap. When you go into the cargo hold there is a jeep, motorbike & a tank. You can drive a vehicle out or run & jump out the back. If you drive a vehicle out you can stay in it (fire cannon in the tank) but the fighter jet will 're-engage' & fire on your vehicle. I"m sure Rockstar's version will be infinitely better.

Yea its a possibility. But like I said, it doesnt make sense. The plane seems damaged but not alot. I guess we will find out in april/may

[johncs154]

I don't think its damaged, just that it has no texture yet.. the plane is most likely still being modeled. If it was damaged then there should be fire and or structural affliction. It looks as if the cargo door is fully functioning. I do believe its the same plane as the screenshot though.

That's not how it works. In 3d, it doesn't work the same as in real life.

 

It takes far more effort to model the damaged geometry than it is to just model a smooth edge.

 

And given deffpony worked with these planes before when he was in the U.S. Coast guard, his input on this is quite valuable.

My knowledge comes from doing 3D modeling. If a texture is made to be visible on the outside and no texture is placed on the inside it would show invisible in the game.. from the outside it may be fully intact.