macorules94 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 With plans to become the world’s tallest building at about 3645 feet, the Azerbaijan Tower is being built on a series of artificial islands, the Khazar Islands, in the Caspian Sea 16 miles south of Baku, Azerbaijan. Avesta Group, the company behind the project, is expecting to have the skyscraper completed by 2019 at an estimated cost of $2 billion. With 189 floors, it is expected to surpass the the Burj Khalifa Tower in Dubai and Saudi Arabia’s proposed 3280 foot Kingdom Tower. Construction starting 2015 and finishing in 2019. Being built in Khazar Islands, which are artificial islands (bloody awesome!) What are your thoughts? I'm currently trying to picture 30 years ahead, when there will probably be 2000m + buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It looks absolutely beautiful. I really hope it gets completed. Honestly though, I've never understood why my country has such a hatred of these kind of buildings. We have the Shard, but very little else. I wish we had the ambition and the modern-thinking to try something like this. Oh, and the waterway leading up to the building looks wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 ^I don't get it either, building upwards is not only f*cking cool, but it saves space, honestly I think it is amazing walking through cities with giant buildings. By the way, the building is not really that tall, Last I checked they don't count spire height on those buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It just goes to show you that we have some smart people in this world, who know what they are doing - designing and doing the engineering work for these buildings. It is truly amazing as these people have to ensure that this building will be able to support its own weight! I can also imagine most buildings in major cities around the world being this height within 30 years with even higher buildings springing up. It will be a pretty amazing (and even a little scary) sight to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 ^I don't get it either, building upwards is not only f*cking cool, but it saves space, honestly I think it is amazing walking through cities with giant buildings. I'm afraid we're more keen on our sh*tty little cottages and country houses. Everyone seems absolutely obsessed with the countryside over here. Probably why I want to leave this country one day and go somewhere that's not stuck in the 1950's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It looks absolutely beautiful. I really hope it gets completed.Honestly though, I've never understood why my country has such a hatred of these kind of buildings. We have the Shard, but very little else. I wish we had the ambition and the modern-thinking to try something like this. Oh, and the waterway leading up to the building looks wonderful. Wouldn't it look... Strange? A 1500m-tall behemoth, as cool as it would be, doesn't exactly scream "London". But, regarding the tower itself, it looks pretty cool. I'm not alone in saying that looking at tall buildings, and living in cities with massive skyscrapers, is genuinely fascinating, and kind of acts as a motivating reminder as to what humanity can achieve. I'm still excited for the day where I can just spend days on end walking through Manhattan, taking in everything above me and next to me. That's always been a fascinating thing regarding these cities; it's as if the tall skyscrapers act as a perfect blanket for all human activity underneath their spires. To be honest, I'm kind of interested in heading off to Azerbaijan once. Over the past half-decade to a decade, they've seen a spurn of development, off-shooting off the ridiculous amount of oil revenue they receive, and as far as I know, it's become one of the most developed areas in the former Eastern Bloc. I recall reading somewhere that they actually pride themselves on being the most secular and liberal people in the Islamic World, even more-so than Persians (who they're ethnically related to, I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
018361 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 To me this is just a reminder that America needs to step up it's game. Some billionaire needs to build the "next tallest building" here. Maybe Donald Trump or Bill Gates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 All they need is a giant mechanical hand to run up and down and for a fountain on the very top to periodically explode. Oh and a huge sign that lights up at night saying something like "Does everyone know that Baku exists yet?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It looks absolutely beautiful. I really hope it gets completed.Honestly though, I've never understood why my country has such a hatred of these kind of buildings. We have the Shard, but very little else. I wish we had the ambition and the modern-thinking to try something like this. Oh, and the waterway leading up to the building looks wonderful. My thoughts exactly. The last two pictures look amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I have no idea why countries try to one up each other by doing pointless bullsh*t like this. Anyway, do these buildings even get filled out completely? @Stefche, Go look at their human rights records. Edited January 13, 2013 by Warlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3niX Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well... I don't see this as much different from the publicly lambasted attempt at building the worlds tallest building in North Korea. Both are just expressions of the country's and its leaders "power". Except this one might actually get built because they have money. This is just public masturbation which tries to take attention away frome the fact that the country isn't healthy (or at least tries to create a certain perception). I will inevitably admire it as an awesome engineering feat... but thats all it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Masturbatory engineering hubris. Artificial islands, giant pointless skyscrapers "just because." Who's designing this, SOM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The real question is: Why does Azerbaijan need this? They have so many other peoblems, and a stupid tall tower will definitely not fix any of that. So far it's only a proposed building anyways, who knows what will happen in the next years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 A lot of glaciers will melt for this to be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup3rman Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 To me, these skyscrapers would serve a bigger purpose if they would be full of apartments. I mean this huge building could house a small village. Ofc its not going to be used as that, but as an office building or something. Still an engineering masterpiece, considering how such a thing could support its own weight. Also how the ground can support such weight...incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGig Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I can appreciate a lot of things about this, but to me it's just utterly pointless. I'm pretty sure that 2 billion dollars can have a much more significant and beneficial impact if used for something we actually need e.g. scientific research, charities, and so on. Maybe I don't understand the politics involved in the whole thing or why a tall building would be better than any of the other options, but that's how I see it. A colossal waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I can appreciate a lot of things about this, but to me it's just utterly pointless. I'm pretty sure that 2 billion dollars can have a much more significant and beneficial impact if used for something we actually need e.g. scientific research, charities, and so on. Maybe I don't understand the politics involved in the whole thing or why a tall building would be better than any of the other options, but that's how I see it. A colossal waste of money. Good art is never a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGig Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I can appreciate a lot of things about this, but to me it's just utterly pointless. I'm pretty sure that 2 billion dollars can have a much more significant and beneficial impact if used for something we actually need e.g. scientific research, charities, and so on. Maybe I don't understand the politics involved in the whole thing or why a tall building would be better than any of the other options, but that's how I see it. A colossal waste of money. Good art is never a waste of money. I agree with that on some level, but 2 billion?! That's a lot of money for some art. Yes, it looks brilliant, but how is that better than, say, offering the same amount to aide in famine relief or something along those lines? I know I'm coming off as some whining save-the-world hippy but I can assure you I'm not one. I just find it weird how there are so many people out there in need and yet people are choosing to spend their money on a pretty pile of metal and glass. Then again, I suppose the key word there was "choosing". Someone who has 2 billion to spend can choose whatever they heck they want in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I can appreciate a lot of things about this, but to me it's just utterly pointless. I'm pretty sure that 2 billion dollars can have a much more significant and beneficial impact if used for something we actually need e.g. scientific research, charities, and so on. Maybe I don't understand the politics involved in the whole thing or why a tall building would be better than any of the other options, but that's how I see it. A colossal waste of money. Good art is never a waste of money. I agree with that on some level, but 2 billion?! That's a lot of money for some art. Yes, it looks brilliant, but how is that better than, say, offering the same amount to aide in famine relief or something along those lines? I know I'm coming off as some whining save-the-world hippy but I can assure you I'm not one. I just find it weird how there are so many people out there in need and yet people are choosing to spend their money on a pretty pile of metal and glass. Then again, I suppose the key word there was "choosing". Someone who has 2 billion to spend can choose whatever they heck they want in this world. The Burj Khalifa already cost 1,5 billion, so this will never cost 2 billion only, even if they say so. Costs for things like this always end up to be much higher than planned. Wikipedia says: "The $2 billion tower is to be the centerpiece of the Khazar Islands, a $100 billion city of 41 artificial islands that will spread 3,000 hectares over the Caspian Sea." No one even knows if this will be built anyways. All of the artificial islands in the Dubai area were a complete flop. There are many tall buildings being "planned" by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_tall..._and_structures In my opinion they could build a million tall buildings in these areas, I'd still not plan on living there. Why? Because it's all some artificial crap. If people wouldn't earn so much money in these areas they wouldn't even consider moving there, there are thousands of nicer places in the world. I also hate how countries like Azerbaijan try to hide their sh*tty politics with something like this, it was the same with the Eurovision Song Contest last year. Spend the money on important things and not on crap like this. It just gets me all angry when these countries act like they have no other good things to do anymore, it's very, very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I can appreciate a lot of things about this, but to me it's just utterly pointless. I'm pretty sure that 2 billion dollars can have a much more significant and beneficial impact if used for something we actually need e.g. scientific research, charities, and so on. Maybe I don't understand the politics involved in the whole thing or why a tall building would be better than any of the other options, but that's how I see it. A colossal waste of money. Good art is never a waste of money. I agree with that on some level, but 2 billion?! That's a lot of money for some art. Yes, it looks brilliant, but how is that better than, say, offering the same amount to aide in famine relief or something along those lines? Let me explain how building this is better than famine relief. This building will stand long after the starving masses are dead. And long after the impoverished children have stopped haunting our dreams, this building will continue to inspire us. Inspiration, art, human endeavour, all these things are what make life worth living. And I would rather have a little extravagance than settle for mediocrity on the pretense of helping the less fortunate. The pursuit of beauty and the ability to make men marvel at our architectural prowess is every bit as noble and worthwhile as aiding the poor. The Pyramids continue to inspire, do you really care for the Jewish contractors who likely died in their construction? The Great Wall of China can be seen from space, to this day overzealous tourists try to take away pieces of the stone simply to say they own a part of history - does it truly matter that slaves were used to build it? Art speaks of who we were, what we stood for, what we were capable of. It will be here long after you and I are bones in the ground. It is far, far more important than the suffering endured to create that art. Edited January 13, 2013 by Typhus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan90 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Is Avesta Group a state or a private company? Edited January 13, 2013 by Stephan123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGig Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 @ Typhus: You actually make some pretty good points there. In fact, I'm rather annoyed at myself for not even thinking about them. A perfect example of self-confirming bias. Side note: The Great Wall isn't visible from space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3niX Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Well... @Typhus - Art has to have substance, otherwise its just a pretty thing. These things will be forgotten as fast as they were thought up because they are hollow symbols. They don't represent anything magnificent or even mildly interesting. EDIT: In fact, to anyone who is reading this post, I want you to tell me what other engineering feats were on that picture without taking another look. Also, if you can, name the top 10 tallest skyscrapers in the world currently. Edited January 13, 2013 by 3niX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) @Typhus - Art has to have substance, otherwise its just a pretty thing. These things will be forgotten as fast as they were thought up because they are hollow symbols. They don't represent anything magnificent or even mildly interesting. Not necessarily. Let me give you an example. The Palace of the Parliament in Romania was a vanity project of a dictator. Nicolae Ceausescu had thousands forced out of their homes, he had historical buildings bulldozed all because of his rampant desire to modernise his nation. he felt the old buildings were akin to gypsy shacks. As you can imagine, his building created a lot of ill will and was perhaps a big part of why they shot him. But as the years wind on and those he wrong die away, will this 'pretty thing' be seen as shallow? Or will its beauty and the magnificence of its design inspire others despite the pain of its construction? It is a wonderful building and people will continue to marvel at its grand halls and marble floors long after the name of Nicolae Ceausescu no longer inspires disgust and sadness. You may see a skyscraper as a worthless bauble, but future generations will disagree. Edited January 13, 2013 by Typhus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Bitch please. India's tallest buildings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3niX Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Well... You see... thats the thing. That palace has infamy with it - I would constitute that as substance. Anything that has a story to tell can be considered a symbol. EDIT: Also, I don't consider all skyscrapers as worthless. But neither do I consider all skyscrapers as "art". Edited January 13, 2013 by 3niX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think it looks ugly as hell. It's just the design, it's horrendous. I usually like tall skyscrapers, but not in this case. The body of it, with those cylinder things with the rings around them remind of the board game "frustration". They look like the little pieces you have to move around the board. The top part looks similar to a woman's lipstick, and the overall building just looks fat and chunky. For me it's not elegant or visually appealing, it's just a big weird monstrosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Masturbatory engineering hubris. Artificial islands, giant pointless skyscrapers "just because." Who's designing this, SOM? lol, I agree. I don't really like this tower. Like what is the point of it, just to be tall? And it looks so weird as well. I'm a huge fan of architecture, loving different types of architecture, but this just looks...ugh... should I say fugly? sh*t like this is kind of why I don't want to be an architect anymore. The sh*t they design today and build just looks ugly, bland, just so, I don't know how to describe it. It just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I can appreciate a lot of things about this, but to me it's just utterly pointless. I'm pretty sure that 2 billion dollars can have a much more significant and beneficial impact if used for something we actually need e.g. scientific research, charities, and so on. Maybe I don't understand the politics involved in the whole thing or why a tall building would be better than any of the other options, but that's how I see it. A colossal waste of money. Good art is never a waste of money. I agree with that on some level, but 2 billion?! That's a lot of money for some art. Yes, it looks brilliant, but how is that better than, say, offering the same amount to aide in famine relief or something along those lines? Let me explain how building this is better than famine relief. This building will stand long after the starving masses are dead. And long after the impoverished children have stopped haunting our dreams, this building will continue to inspire us. Inspiration, art, human endeavour, all these things are what make life worth living. And I would rather have a little extravagance than settle for mediocrity on the pretense of helping the less fortunate. The pursuit of beauty and the ability to make men marvel at our architectural prowess is every bit as noble and worthwhile as aiding the poor. The Pyramids continue to inspire, do you really care for the Jewish contractors who likely died in their construction? The Great Wall of China can be seen from space, to this day overzealous tourists try to take away pieces of the stone simply to say they own a part of history - does it truly matter that slaves were used to build it? Art speaks of who we were, what we stood for, what we were capable of. It will be here long after you and I are bones in the ground. It is far, far more important than the suffering endured to create that art. Well said, chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjeem Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 That looks fantastic, It would definitely put the country on the map a little bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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