In a fist fight..

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

As I said before that does not mean anything for all we know Micheal could be ex FIB or on some jason Bourne Type sh*t lol . Military training means nothing when it comes to fighting. Anyone can be dropped from a solid punch in the sweet spot on your jaw #FACT.

 

No, just no. You're an idiot for using the #FACT thing but what you've said there's absolutely idiotic.

 

 

As I said before that does not mean anything

 

Oh I think that you'll find that it most certainly does mean something, the military are trained in a certain type of martial art called Defendu, I believe that it's most commonly taught to the British military, though it's also taught to the troops of other countries, America being one of them.

 

 

for all we know Micheal could be ex FIB or on some jason Bourne Type sh*t lol .

 

No, he couldn't. It'd make no sense whatsoever for him to want to start robbing banks again would it, and yes I used the word again considering the fact that we know that he'd been in the criminal game early in life and that's how he affords his rich and luxurious life that he's currently got.

 

 

Military training means nothing when it comes to fighting. Anyone can be dropped from a solid punch in the sweet spot on your jaw #FACT.

 

Military training means nothing huh ? I guess that's why they don't bother to train the marines in hand to hand combat, oh wait ... They do. There's a reason why people don't just run into battles and wars untrained, and you know what that reason is ? I'll tell you, the less training and preparation you've had the higher your chances of dying.

 

Secondly, having a good grasp of hand to hand combat means that the person who knows how to use the stuff would know not only how to attack, but also how to defend themselves. Why do you think that professional fighters always hold their hands close to their face, it's to make sure that they're well defended and that someone can't just walk on up and sucker punch them.

 

Lastly, R* seems to understand that you need some training to win a fight and not just Muscle.

 

 

 

Yeah, because military training means absolutely nothing.

LOl you are a joke My father is the CSM. Of the artillery division my whole family on my father side is Military. My brother is in the Army now and I know for a fact he cant whip my ass. Like I said any one can be dropped from a solid punch to the sweet spot. That Marine in My picture got his ass whipped by someone with no fighting training.

[poiuytrew]

 

Yeah, because military training means absolutely nothing.

which is why they had a dutch kickboxer who made his name fighting in a shoot based pro wrestling promotion in japan do the motion capture for niko's fighting ability?

[YoungChrist]

Im sorry, you guys are actually taking this Twitch fibers thing seriously?

[Raynos]

Im sorry, you guys are actually taking this Twitch fibers thing seriously?

Hell yes dude, Twitch Fibers are a fact of life. Thanks to the white man breeding slaves, we have created people with superior twitch fibers.

[J32T3R]

Threads just get dumber and dumber....of course Trevor would win you would not let someone as dirty as him touch you with all his filth.

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

Im sorry, you guys are actually taking this Twitch fibers thing seriously? 

Hell yes dude, Twitch Fibers are a fact of life. Thanks to the white man breeding slaves, we have created people with superior twitch fibers.

Lol i think it has more to do with them running from Lions, Lepords, and chasing down gazelles lol

[I Shot The Sheriff]

As I said before that does not mean anything for all we know Micheal could be ex FIB or on some jason Bourne Type sh*t lol . Military training means nothing when it comes to fighting. Anyone can be dropped from a solid punch in the sweet spot on your jaw #FACT.

 

No, just no. You're an idiot for using the #FACT thing but what you've said there's absolutely idiotic.

 

 

As I said before that does not mean anything

 

Oh I think that you'll find that it most certainly does mean something, the military are trained in a certain type of martial art called Defendu, I believe that it's most commonly taught to the British military, though it's also taught to the troops of other countries, America being one of them.

 

 

for all we know Micheal could be ex FIB or on some jason Bourne Type sh*t lol .

 

No, he couldn't. It'd make no sense whatsoever for him to want to start robbing banks again would it, and yes I used the word again considering the fact that we know that he'd been in the criminal game early in life and that's how he affords his rich and luxurious life that he's currently got.

 

 

Military training means nothing when it comes to fighting. Anyone can be dropped from a solid punch in the sweet spot on your jaw #FACT.

 

Military training means nothing huh ? I guess that's why they don't bother to train the marines in hand to hand combat, oh wait ... They do. There's a reason why people don't just run into battles and wars untrained, and you know what that reason is ? I'll tell you, the less training and preparation you've had the higher your chances of dying.

 

Secondly, having a good grasp of hand to hand combat means that the person who knows how to use the stuff would know not only how to attack, but also how to defend themselves. Why do you think that professional fighters always hold their hands close to their face, it's to make sure that they're well defended and that someone can't just walk on up and sucker punch them.

 

Lastly, R* seems to understand that you need some training to win a fight and not just Muscle.

 

 

 

Yeah, because military training means absolutely nothing.

LOl you are a joke My father is the CSM. Of the artillery division my whole family on my father side is Military. My brother is in the Army now and I know for a fact he cant whip my ass. Like I said any one can be dropped from a solid punch to the sweet spot. That Marine in My picture got his ass whipped by someone with no fighting training.

Also, Trevor was a pilot, not a foot action soldier. They don't teach fighting techinques to jet pilots, although I can see him knowing some tricks, of course. And yes, guys from the army can get their asses beaten by a properly trained and muscular civilian, not to mention you aren't a fit expert fighter just for being in the army.

[ChrissDaMan]

as Michael's the 'old guy'

Trevor is as old as Michael you know..

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

as Michael's the 'old guy'

Trevor is as old as Michael you know..

I just hope R* keep these guys together and hold them together by a common goal which is money just to say F*ck to the racial stereo typing F*ckers lol

[Secura]

 

LOl you are a joke My father is the CSM.Of the artillery division my whole family on my father side is Military.

 

I'm afraid I don't know who the CSM is, maybe if you bothered to punctuate your sentences correctly I'd be able to take you a little more seriously.

 

 

My brother is in the Army now and I know for a fact he cant whip my ass.

Then again, I'm not talking about your brother (and that's if he even exists ...) as people over the internet love to make themselves look like giant killing machines where as in actuality they are quite the opposite.

 

Now, to get a little more on topic what you've said's obviously wrong. If I were to go into a fight against someone from the military and I had received no hand to hand combat training whatsoever I'd be torn to shreds, there's simply no debating that.

 

 

Like I said any one can be dropped from a solid punch to the sweet spot. That Marine in My picture got his ass whipped by someone with no fighting training.

 

The marine in your picture sounds like he was inebriated when he received that beating and he still did some amount of damage to the two guys that were fighting him, two.

 

 

which is why they had a dutch kickboxer who made his name fighting in a shoot based pro wrestling promotion in japan do the motion capture for niko's fighting ability?

 

Since when did Michael Hollick become a dutch kickboxer ?.

 

 

Also, Trevor was a pilot, not a foot action soldier. They don't teach fighting techinques to jet pilots, although I can see him knowing some tricks, of course.

 

 

Indeed, he was a pilot but as you've said he'd still most likely have been taught a few tricks of the trade while he was serving.

 

 

And yes, guys from the army can get their asses beaten by a properly trained and muscular civilian, not to mention you aren't a fit expert fighter just for being in the army.

 

I didn't say that you're an expert fighter if you're in the military, but you're capable in a fight and from what I've seen of Trevor I'd say he's certainly more then capable. I do want to make this clear though, soldiers aren't infallible they are of course beatable in a fight but I'm simply stating that they'd be harder to fight then a man who's out of shape in his mid forties and young street mechanic.

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

 

LOl you are a joke My father is the CSM.Of the artillery division my whole family on my father side is Military.

 

I'm afraid I don't know who the CSM is, maybe if you bothered to punctuate your sentences correctly I'd be able to take you a little more seriously.

 

 

My brother is in the Army now and I know for a fact he cant whip my ass.

Then again, I'm not talking about your brother (and that's if he even exists ...) as people over the internet love to make themselves look like giant killing machines where as in actuality they are quite the opposite.

 

Now, to get a little more on topic what you've said's obviously wrong. If I were to go into a fight against someone from the military and I had received no hand to hand combat training whatsoever I'd be torn to shreds, there's simply no debating that.

 

 

Like I said any one can be dropped from a solid punch to the sweet spot. That Marine in My picture got his ass whipped by someone with no fighting training.

 

The marine in your picture sounds like he was inebriated when he received that beating and he still did some amount of damage to the two guys that were fighting him, two.

 

 

which is why they had a dutch kickboxer who made his name fighting in a shoot based pro wrestling promotion in japan do the motion capture for niko's fighting ability?

 

Since when did Michael Hollick become a dutch kickboxer ?.

 

 

Also, Trevor was a pilot, not a foot action soldier. They don't teach fighting techinques to jet pilots, although I can see him knowing some tricks, of course.

 

 

Indeed, he was a pilot but as you've said he'd still most likely have been taught a few tricks of the trade while he was serving.

 

 

And yes, guys from the army can get their asses beaten by a properly trained and muscular civilian, not to mention you aren't a fit expert fighter just for being in the army.

 

I didn't say that you're an expert fighter if you're in the military, but you're capable in a fight and from what I've seen of Trevor I'd say he's certainly more then capable. I do want to make this clear though, soldiers aren't infallible they are of course beatable in a fight but I'm simply stating that they'd be harder to fight then a man who's out of shape in his mid forties and young street mechanic.

Google Csm. Jerome Wiggins and No Jordan Jefferson came out with no damage accept to his fist from punching the guys face in lol I also know all well about defensive fighter as Im not a brawler Im more of a counterpuncher but like I said I was taught mostly by my dad and some from my cousin who has know type of trainer but he possess some hell of punching power and speed.

Edited January 12, 2013 by CSM. HB J-DOGG

[Secura]

Google Csm. Jerome Wiggins

How do I know that you are in any shape, way or form related to that man ?.

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

 

Google Csm. Jerome Wiggins

How do I know that you are in any shape, way or form related to that man ?.

Google me CSM. HB J-dogg comes up hell Ill even add you to my Facebook Im Jeromi Wiggins lol I try not to use his name as much as comments that I have posted in a cnn blog kinda got him questioned by his superiors. I guess the fact that I am a 29yr old man now with first amendment rights were not thought about lol

Unlike alot of guys on the internet I am who and what I say I am and you can MTV #CATFISH That lmao

Edited January 12, 2013 by CSM. HB J-DOGG

[Secura]

Google Csm. Jerome Wiggins

How do I know that you are in any shape, way or form related to that man ?.

Google me CSM. HB J-dogg comes up hell Ill even add you to my Facebook Im Jeromi Wiggins

It's fine, I'm not disputiing that you are or aren't related to them I'm just saying that with information that was originally given I had no way of knowing whether you were or weren't related to him.

 

Anyway, I'd suggest that if you wish to continue this discussion (and I've no clue as to why you would since it's reached its inevitable conclusion) then let's do it through PM's so as not to spam the topic, despite the fact that its not exactly the most interesting or compelling discussion out there.

 

On Topic: I suppose there's a chance that Franklin could scrape a victory, be he extremely lucky but I can't foresee Michael coming out with a win in this fight. The fact remains though that we've really only seen Trevor in combat, and from those scenes I've deducted that he's a force to be reckoned with.

 

Getting into a scrape with that man will not end well for you.

[DeafMetal]

Trevor. This isn't even a close fight. He's a military veteran which means he's had formal training. That by itself would be enough to at least put him on the same level as Franklin because of the age difference, but the fact that the guy is batsh*t crazy and has not stopped his criminal career since he partnered with Michael gives him an unfair advantage. So, what I'm getting it is: psychopathic military and crime veteran > young gangster, retired bank robber.

[DzNutz]

just because you're in the army doesn't mean you can fight... but Trevors smell and bad hygine probably would get the job done.

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

I am in no way saying Trevor could not win Im just saying we dont know lol. Like I said earlier trevor may be superman while on that sh*t lol . Trevor might hit your with a Goku type of punch lol

[Diesleman]

My point really is that trev would probably, in the story of the game which we haven't yet played, based on what we know about the characters and what we know about Rockstar themselves, I imagine they've created Trevor as the one of the three not to be f*cked with.

[Lil ski]

As I said before that does not mean anything for all we know Micheal could be ex FIB or on some jason Bourne

Type sh*t lol . Military training means nothing when it comes to fighting. Anyone can be dropped from a solid punch in the sweet spot on your jaw #FACT.

 

No, just no. You're an idiot for using the #FACT thing but what you've said there's absolutely idiotic.

 

 

As I said before that does not mean anything

 

Oh I think that you'll find that it most certainly does mean something, the military are trained in a certain type of martial art called Defendu, I believe that it's most commonly taught to the British military, though it's also taught to the troops of other countries, America being one of them.

 

 

for all we know Micheal could be ex FIB or on some jason Bourne Type sh*t lol .

 

No, he couldn't. It'd make no sense whatsoever for him to want to start robbing banks again would it, and yes I used the word again considering the fact that we know that he'd been in the criminal game early in life and that's how he affords his rich and luxurious life that he's currently got.

 

 

Military training means nothing when it comes to fighting. Anyone can be dropped from a solid punch in the sweet spot on your jaw #FACT.

 

Military training means nothing huh ? I guess that's why they don't bother to train the marines in hand to hand combat, oh wait ... They do. There's a reason why people don't just run into battles and wars untrained, and you know what that reason is ? I'll tell you, the less training and preparation you've had the higher your chances of dying.

 

Secondly, having a good grasp of hand to hand combat means that the person who knows how to use the stuff would know not only how to attack, but also how to defend themselves. Why do you think that professional fighters always hold their hands close to their face, it's to make sure that they're well defended and that someone can't just walk on up and sucker punch them.

 

Lastly, R* seems to understand that you need some training to win a fight and not just Muscle.

 

 

 

Yeah, because military training means absolutely nothing.

LOl you are a joke My father is the CSM. Of the artillery division my whole family on my father side is Military. My brother is in the Army now and I know for a fact he cant whip my ass. Like I said any one can be dropped from a solid punch to the sweet spot. That Marine in My picture got his ass whipped by someone with no fighting training.

Also, Trevor was a pilot, not a foot action soldier. They don't teach fighting techinques to jet pilots, although I can see him knowing some tricks, of course. And yes, guys from the army can get their asses beaten by a properly trained and muscular civilian, not to mention you aren't a fit expert fighter just for being in the army.

Exactly!

Lightning man, you're hearing it from the horses mouth. I'm currently serving right now, been in for 6 years and I'm telling you, unless you're with a special group like rangers, special forces or who ever, the military's hand to hand combat training isn't as extensive as people think. Yes they do teach you Combatives but it's just a bunch of grapple techniques but nothing that would teach you how to throw down like Jean Claude Van Damm, especially if you're just a pilot. Now if he was a pilot attached to a special ops unit, then I will stand corrected because he could've got training from them. But as far as we know about him if anything he knew any amazing moves it wouldn't be from military, probably from an actual martial arts instructor. Like I said man, many young drunk fresh soldiers down here in Hawaii gets some drinks in them and think they superman because they in the military usually get their asses stomped (and their girl taken lol) by some real ass dudes out there in the streets. Combatives don't work in a street fight.

[poiuytrew]

 

which is why they had a dutch kickboxer who made his name fighting in a shoot based pro wrestling promotion in japan do the motion capture for niko's fighting ability?

 

Since when did Michael Hollick become a dutch kickboxer ?.

 

 

michael hollick did the motion capture for most of it, but the fighting mechanics were done by bas rutten, who has been a dutch kickboxer for quite a while, as shown here in his first mma fight almost 20 years ago

 

Edited January 12, 2013 by poiuytrew

[sivaG]

Michael!

[Ferocious Banger]

Michael!

Admittedly, michael's strong; but he is nowhere near the physical fitness of Franklin or the maniacal brutal strength of Trevor.

 

Trevor oru psycho punda mavan da!

[OFWGKTA]

Franklin. He is the youngest and the fittest, doesn't smoke or do drugs. Trevor is the strongest probably but bear in mind that he is a junkie. Maybe he's crazy, but he's a heroin addict. Michael wouldn't do much damage due to his age.

Also, Franklin lives in the ghetto where fights are a regular thing.

[MarshDanni]

Trevor would wipe the floor with Micheal and Franklin

[G-Eazy]

Trevor.

[ill-thoughts]

Trevor is the strongest probably but bear in mind that he is a junkie. Maybe he's crazy, but he's a heroin addict.

lol in Trailer 2, Trevor stomps a fool in his FACE, walks into a bar and bashes a dudes FACE into a wooden divider and people still think hes out of shape and cant fight we'll put you into the GTA World and let you fight with Trevor see how that goes.

[jamieleng]

Shouldn't this have a poll attached?

 

Anyway, from what we know Trevor seems to be the most dangerous & possibly well trained of the three. Mainly due to his military background & the fact he appears to live his entire life on a knife edge, liable to blowup at any given moment.

 

Then I would have to say Franklin due to his age & bulk, he looks pretty well built. Plus he has probably grown up in the school of hard knocks in the ghetto.

 

Michael is probably as capable as any previous GTA protagonist but he is older & has been living "The Good Life" of retirement recently. I'm sure he'll kick ass when it comes down to it.

 

Hope I've been diplomatic with my choices.

[theworldfamous]

If Trevor is not on drugs, he would win.

 

I don't know what would happen Michael vs. Franklin though... it depends on their skills.

If Trevor is on drugs he could win you mean. I always hear from people at the police that it's maniacs that are on coke or speed that are the hardest to get down, because they hardly feel any pain and are stronger than usual.

 

If Trevor is a regular user, he's going to be extremely weak when sober. So my bet would be on Franklin actually. There's a lot sports activity hinted at in screens and the trailers, and neither Trevor or Michael look the type for it. Franklin is most probably the fit dude that does the skydiving, swimming and bike racing. A guy like that, came up in the hood, avid sportsman, strongman for Armenian gang... that's a force to be reckoned with.

 

A middle aged junkie from a trailer park not so much. He's probably more aggressive and likely to attack you, but also more likely to lose his cool and make a dumb move that you can turn to your advantage.

[Cosmic Strut]

Funny thread Fast twitch muscle fibres

 

I would say Trevor, just because he's a war veteran, you've gotta account for that possibility of special forces training combined with his general psychotic old white guy rage and the crank. Based on what we know I say Trevor, but things could change

 

[UrbanTheEmcee]

I don't know who would win, but I disagree with the most of you giving this fight to Trevor hands down. Experience doesn't come from training, it comes from fighting. I used to box when I was 19-23. The only thing training did for me was give me focus. It taught me how to fight without anger. My skills developed in the ring though, not in training. You could throw somebody into a pit everyday with no experience, and that person will come out a sharper fighter than they went in. I was bouncer for three years, and in that time I've fought just about every class of fighter you could think of. Low-lifes, Military, MMA, etc... The only person who ever got to me was some Aisian guy who knew judo. He's the reason I got fired. I think who ever has the most experience fighting would win.

 

Trevor was a pilot, Michael robbed banks, and Franklin was a gangster.

Who's to say who has the strongest jaw, or who has leather skin.

Edited January 12, 2013 by UrbanTheEmcee