About the bushes and trees

[copperrobber]

Ive seen quite alot of people complaining(not that much lately though) about the trees and bushes looking ugly and wondering If they ever gonna fix it , i think sam houser had a pretty good statement about that a few years ago. Think whatever your want about this thread, maybe its unnecessary, if so lock it. Anyway heres the statement:

 

"One day, Foreman read on some online gamer discussion board how they said the trees in GTA III looked terrible. He saw Sam's face redden in anger and went over to console him. “Look at these people,” Foreman said, “if they're sitting around looking at the trees, think about how much they're actually missing. It's just not relevant. It's easy to take something in isolation and get beaten up about it. But the reality is that GTA is not about the trees. It's everything in there. Not one thing in there is that great. You have to take it as a whole"

 

I guess many of you have never seen this so. He said that around 2001-2002.

 

Edit: Gary Foreman said this not Sam, my bad.

Edited January 11, 2013 by copperrobber

[Saracen7]

good post.

houser has a point

[GrandMaster Smith]

Very well said.

[FAH-Q]

Yeah, I agree the trees look like sh*t, but at the same time I don't buy GTA's for the trees.

[Deffpony]

Where is the source for this??

[killahmatic]

its 2013, no reason for trees, or benches, or even pieces of garbage to look bad anymore.

It IS about the whole package, but that means every little thing has to be good for the whole package to be great.

 

With that being said, I believe the trees in V will be just fine, and the trees in VI will look much more realistic.

[Raynos]

I thought the trees in GTA 3 were fine, they moved with the wind n all etc. It was pretty complex stuff back then.

 

Looking at it now, Tree do add to the atmosphere of the game but as long as they aren't black and white, I don't see any issues.

 

So far GTA V trees look fine, no issues there.

[Kifflom112]

The trees in V look fine. They could've looked like TDU 2 trees Damn those trees were hideous. V has no problem with this, they've got pines, flowers, oaks, maples, etc.

[dewan2000]

its 2013, no reason for trees, or benches, or even pieces of garbage to look bad anymore.

It IS about the whole package, but that means every little thing has to be good for the whole package to be great.

 

With that being said, I believe the trees in V will be just fine, and the trees in VI will look much more realistic.

Game is running on 8 year old hardware. Hardware with very low RAM and still operates games in dx9. Don't expect to see super high quality textures. If you want pretty graphics, invest in a PC and support the mod community that puts out great work to make your games look pretty.

[Kifflom112]

its 2013, no reason for trees, or benches, or even pieces of garbage to look bad anymore.

It IS about the whole package, but that means every little thing has to be good for the whole package to be great.

 

With that being said, I believe the trees in V will be just fine, and the trees in VI will look much more realistic.

Game is running on 8 year old hardware. Hardware with very low RAM and still operates games in dx9. Don't expect to see super high quality textures. If you want pretty graphics, invest in a PC and support the mod community that puts out great work to make your games look pretty.

Please quit with these sh*tty PC elitist comments.

And NFS HP on Xbox did have high res trees thank you very much.

[Jordan_Philip]

I doubt he would have the same reaction today

[infiniteammo]

>.> I for one play it for the trees. I go into every Grand Theft Auto with high hopes that I can sit under a shady tree, drink a tall lemonade, whip my whittlin' knife out and just fabricate me a whistle! Clearly I'm doing it wrong.

[DickieM]

copy + paste RDR trees and I'll be happy.

[CoyT92]

>.> I for one play it for the trees. I go into every Grand Theft Auto with high hopes that I can sit under a shady tree, drink a tall lemonade, whip my whittlin' knife out and just fabricate me a whistle! Clearly I'm doing it wrong.

You and me both, my friend.

 

Hell, I just realized there were buildings in the GTA games last week. I've spent all these years admiring the trees and shrubs and whatnot. I tried playing one of these weird "mission" things then got bored because they didn't mention nor concern my beloved trees. Thanks to the hard work of the game designers, GTA has become a perfect study tool for aspiring dendrologists.

 

I am eagerly looking forward to spending 60 dollars on this game to stare at the bounty of trees and plant life in Grand Theft Auto V. I hope they implemented a sitting feature, so my character can rest his legs as he admires the scenery.

 

Why talk about anything else? I feel so good to be in the company of people who share my views and aren't one of those douchebags who talk about trivial things such as map size, variety in missions, activities, weapons and story length. I mean, who gives a crap about all that noise?

 

It's the trees. That is the only thing that matters. Just look at the Epsilon Program website! "We all come from the same tree". That's a f*cking quote right there, son. If this game does not have trees that are up to my extremely high standards then I will throw myself off the nearest bridge...or, depending on my laziness at the time, a footstool. While not lethal I just might break a toe or finger. I am confident that sending Rockstar a copy of the x-rays will convince them that their lack of attention to in game trees is detrimental to not only gamers, but also society and the known universe as well.

 

[Magic_Al]

The question is not whether the trees look great but whether they artistically make everything look like it got an equal amount of craftsmanship. It's not supposed to look photorealistic, it's supposed to look like detailed artwork.

[Ben73]

SoCal has lots of palm trees. How can you f*ck them up and make them look ugly. It's the most simple tree design ever.

 

I do hope the trees and all the landscape looks good though.

They have to look OK to make the game feel more real. I'm talking the natural landscape in general.

[matt_be]

This was well said. But I don't think the trees and bushes look all that bad anyways. The only time I really noticed them looking bad was when you were flying in a helicopter (in GTA IV) and you could look down and see trees that looked like this: +

 

Otherwise, they do a good enough job on that stuff. The overall game is what is important.

[Irrational]

 

"One day, Foreman read on some online gamer discussion board how they said the trees in GTA III looked terrible. He saw Sam's face redden in anger and went over to console him. [...]"

Well, at least the beloved Xbox version of GTA III did some justice, compare:

 

A tree in PS2/PC version:

 

A tree in Xbox version:

Edited January 11, 2013 by ClaudeSpeedRulez

[The Hippie]

Man, doesn't this make you just want to hug a tree?

[Kifflom112]

Does this really look bad:

 

So much diversity, and in Trailer 2 they added more nice flora and replaced some ones people complained about.

[Capricornus]

 

its 2013, no reason for trees, or benches, or even pieces of garbage to look bad anymore.

It IS about the whole package, but that means every little thing has to be good for the whole package to be great.

 

With that being said, I believe the trees in V will be just fine, and the trees in VI will look much more realistic.

Game is running on 8 year old hardware. Hardware with very low RAM and still operates games in dx9. Don't expect to see super high quality textures. If you want pretty graphics, invest in a PC and support the mod community that puts out great work to make your games look pretty.

Stop being an idiot. For "8 year old hardware" Uncharted 3 for the PS3 looked and ran phenomenally. And the trees were excellent as well.

 

http://ps3xboxreviews.files.wordpress.com/...nvironments.jpg

 

Now, I like what PCs can do with games, especially the mods, but you guys talk as if you actually f*ck your PCs as opposed to playing them. Get a grip.

Edited January 11, 2013 by Capricornus

[infiniteammo]

They had better fixed The Truth's marijuana farm though... >.> Those plants didn't look at all like sativa, indica, OR ruderalis! It was pitiful, trifling even!

 

>.> So going there with Trevor's Can 'o Petroline and blazing me some sweet sweet cheeba.

[killahmatic]

its 2013, no reason for trees, or benches, or even pieces of garbage to look bad anymore.

It IS about the whole package, but that means every little thing has to be good for the whole package to be great.

 

With that being said, I believe the trees in V will be just fine, and the trees in VI will look much more realistic.

Game is running on 8 year old hardware. Hardware with very low RAM and still operates games in dx9. Don't expect to see super high quality textures. If you want pretty graphics, invest in a PC and support the mod community that puts out great work to make your games look pretty.

'8 year old hardware' didn't stop RDR from having nice trees.

 

Stop with your PC spam, nobody wants to hear it, and you know that.

[73duster]

Houser's statement was right on point. It's about the package as a whole. There's one other important fact. Most of the things that get picked apart come directly from screenshots, or a freezeframe. This type of game isn't meant to be scrutinized in the high demanding detail of a screenshot. These games are meant to be seen in motion. Red Dead Redemption was quite stunning while being played, and i'm sure if you stared at the screenshots they didn't look as good as during motion.

[Velcomia]

None of us play GTA for the trees but game designers should put good detail in their games regardless

[TheJasonGallant]

Seriously, I agree with houser, who cares about trees if you can do so much stuff? I mean it can't look sh*tty, but it never looks sh*tty... We are in 2013, we never see any very bad graphics... If we compare to what we had before (I'm talking about PS2, PS1...). Sometimes I feel like people never get enough (not everyone though lol, but you all know what I mean I guess)

[Zee]

The funny part is we're 10 years on and the trees still look like crap.

[Showstopper 26]

The funny part is we're 10 years on and the trees still look like crap.

They look amazing.

[YoungChrist]

>.> I for one play it for the trees. I go into every Grand Theft Auto with high hopes that I can sit under a shady tree, drink a tall lemonade, whip my whittlin' knife out and just fabricate me a whistle! Clearly I'm doing it wrong.

You and me both, my friend.

 

Hell, I just realized there were buildings in the GTA games last week. I've spent all these years admiring the trees and shrubs and whatnot. I tried playing one of these weird "mission" things then got bored because they didn't mention nor concern my beloved trees. Thanks to the hard work of the game designers, GTA has become a perfect study tool for aspiring dendrologists.

 

I am eagerly looking forward to spending 60 dollars on this game to stare at the bounty of trees and plant life in Grand Theft Auto V. I hope they implemented a sitting feature, so my character can rest his legs as he admires the scenery.

 

Why talk about anything else? I feel so good to be in the company of people who share my views and aren't one of those douchebags who talk about trivial things such as map size, variety in missions, activities, weapons and story length. I mean, who gives a crap about all that noise?

 

It's the trees. That is the only thing that matters. Just look at the Epsilon Program website! "We all come from the same tree". That's a f*cking quote right there, son. If this game does not have trees that are up to my extremely high standards then I will throw myself off the nearest bridge...or, depending on my laziness at the time, a footstool. While not lethal I just might break a toe or finger. I am confident that sending Rockstar a copy of the x-rays will convince them that their lack of attention to in game trees is detrimental to not only gamers, but also society and the known universe as well.

Well said.

[blakeney]

For a Tree Sim game the tree do suck... i dont know why so much effort is put into cars, people and general surroundings... its not like this is an open world crime sim based on cars people and general realisim!

 

Also, reading the qoute... it looks like this is "foreman's" statement/qoute... not Houser?