No easy day....a LT.'s story of Afghan

[Cory_Micheals25]

THIS POST HAS BEEN DELETED DUE TO CONFIDENTIALITY BECAUSE OF SEVERAL FEDERAL CODES AND IT CONTAINING NATIONAL SECRETS

Edited January 11, 2013 by Cory_Micheals25

[TheGodDamnMaster]

 

So to people on here...respect people in the military....other wise you would be invaded and killed by nuke wielding terrorists.

Don't be a dick to them or i will personally come to your house, beat the living sh*t out of you and make you see your arrogance.

I'm sorry that happened to you. The world is a bitch.

 

However, the above is not a proper way to get your "respect the military" message across.

 

I do respect the military for there willingness to put their lives on the line for civilians. However, I think these wars have been going on for too long now and it's time to come home before we lose any more good people. It's a mentally-scarring experience for military personnel and a money sink for the American taxpayer.

Edited January 10, 2013 by whatsstrength

[Cory_Micheals25]

 

So to people on here...respect people in the military....other wise you would be invaded and killed by nuke wielding terrorists.

Don't be a dick to them or i will personally come to your house, beat the living sh*t out of you and make you see your arrogance.

I'm sorry that happened to you. The world is a bitch.

 

However, the above is not a proper way to get your "respect the military" message across.

 

I do respect the military for there willingness to put their lives on the line for civilians. However, I think these wars have been going on for too long now and it's time to come home before we lose any more good people. It's a mentally-scarring experience for military personnel and a money sink for the American taxpayer.

I think i did just fine the story gets the message across, i do agree its time to end it...

[TheGodDamnMaster]

 

So to people on here...respect people in the military....other wise you would be invaded and killed by nuke wielding terrorists.

Don't be a dick to them or i will personally come to your house, beat the living sh*t out of you and make you see your arrogance.

I'm sorry that happened to you. The world is a bitch.

 

However, the above is not a proper way to get your "respect the military" message across.

 

I do respect the military for there willingness to put their lives on the line for civilians. However, I think these wars have been going on for too long now and it's time to come home before we lose any more good people. It's a mentally-scarring experience for military personnel and a money sink for the American taxpayer.

I think i did just fine the story gets the message across, i do agree its time to end it...

Agreed. We don't need any further Blowback.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2013 by whatsstrength

[Typhus]

How will threatening to beat people up get people to respect you?

[OchyGTA]

Why would you join today just to post this? Seems an unusual first/second post for a video game forum.

[Cory_Micheals25]

 

Why would you join today just to post this? Seems an unusual first/second post for a video game forum.

I've been following for 2 years, it was the anniversary of that attack yesterday and this is first time i saw this OFF TOPIC area

 

i decided that people should know i guess..... I don't know why.....

[Stephan90]

Post a picture of your "purple heart" together with a piece of paper with your username written on it and everybody believes you.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Stephan123

[Typhus]

 

i decided that people should know i guess..... I don't know why.....

You don't know?

Okay. Well, do you know why you threatened us with physical violence? Do you have a reason for that?

I'm sorry. I just don't like being emotionally blackmailed into kissing your arse.

[Chunkyman]

 

How will threatening to beat people up get people to respect you?

It's funny because this mentality is relatively common. A lot of military guys I went to high school with would challenge people to fights for not putting their lips on the... rumps of military personnel and treating them like sacred Jedi warriors at every opportunity.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Chunkyman

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Quit being so hard on the guy. It's the anniversary of that tragic day and he wants to share his experience with people. You didn't HAVE to come into this thread and reply.

 

Slightly Off-topic.

 

I've had a lot of internal conflicts as to my final thoughts on the military.

 

First, I was afraid of having to be drafted if the wars ever got bad enough. I was just in middle school though, and dying scared me.

 

In my senior year of high school, two of my buddies signed up for the army, one for 11B, the other 25F. I was extremely interested in joining because college didn't interest me. I also wanted to travel because I've never lived outside Maryland.

 

I found out I couldn't join when I was told there is a policy that people who have taken antidepressants are ineligible.

 

So for a while, I became disgruntled and frustrated with the army. I would only watch videos and read news about the bad things that the minority of soldiers had done, and based my opinion of the military as a whole on that.

 

I finally got over it, and now I'm pretty sure I want to go to the Air Force. I found out that I can join as long as I'm off the antidepressants for over a year. I'm currently in the process of weaning-off them. I also have to lose weight, so that gives me plenty of time.

 

[Cory_Micheals25]

How will threatening to beat people up get people to respect you?

It's funny because this mentality is relatively common. A lot of military guys I went to high school with would challenge people to fights for not putting their lips on the... rumps of military personnel and treating them like sacred Jedi warriors at every opportunity.

I want to say to you and typhus both, huh.... it was apparently a failed attempt at sarcasm....I was simply joking...guess you can't see that...ok then...

[Brad]

I'm very very curious as to why a security consultant would refer to the Taliban as 'al-qaeda'.

[Stephan90]

I'm very very curious as to why a security consultant would refer to the Taliban as 'al-qaeda'.

very good point. They are not the same

[Cory_Micheals25]

 

I'm very very curious as to why a security consultant would refer to the Taliban as 'al-qaeda'.

huh this was in 2007 and here, i killed both

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellan...n-and-al-qaeda/

 

 

Taliban mean student.....i'm going to bed....

Edited January 10, 2013 by Cory_Micheals25

[GrandMaster Smith]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

[sivispacem]

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves.

Your total lack understanding of the complex geopolitics and strategic realities of Afghanistan makes you a completely laughable embarrassment.

[OchyGTA]

Ok so his story is legit. Sorry for your loss. You'll have to understand my cautiousness at your initial post, can't believe everything your read on the net nowadays.

[Stephan90]

 

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

bullsh*t, the Taliban have done countless terroristic attacks against their own people when they took over the control and later, destroyed and burned whole cities, oppress women, pactice human trafficking and sexual slavery.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Stephan123

[TheGodDamnMaster]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

bullsh*t, the Taliban have done countless terroristic attacks against their own people when they took over the control and later, oppress women, pactice human trafficking and sexual slavery.

That's not the US' problem.

[Stephan90]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

bullsh*t, the Taliban have done countless terroristic attacks against their own people when they took over the control and later, oppress women, pactice human trafficking and sexual slavery.

That's not the US' problem.

Bush and Obama thought different.

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves.

Your total lack understanding of the complex geopolitics and strategic realities of Afghanistan makes you a completely laughable embarrassment.

Okay, then please explain why.

[Stephan90]

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves.

Your total lack understanding of the complex geopolitics and strategic realities of Afghanistan makes you a completely laughable embarrassment.

Okay, then please explain why.

I wrote it already. They don't defend their innocent life but their terror regime.

[TheGodDamnMaster]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

bullsh*t, the Taliban have done countless terroristic attacks against their own people when they took over the control and later, oppress women, pactice human trafficking and sexual slavery.

That's not the US' problem.

Bush and Obama thought different.

The American taxpayer, the lifeblood of this country, the ones paying for this war, disagree with them. The majority of Americans want to come home.

[Typhus]

 

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

Let's say it's true and his story is accurate. You know what? He did a good thing by murdering those Islamists. The Taliban are child-killers, they mutilate the dead, they flog women, our British soldiers have died at their hands and the bastards parade their bullet-proof vests as trophies. I have no sympathy for them and I don't for a moment believe they're 'defending their homeland'.

 

Remember 2001? Were the Coalition greeted by the Afghans with violence? No. The ordinary people were ecstatic to see the Taliban gone. They welcomed our armies like heroes.

Unfortunately, Karzai has had to Re-Islamise Afghanistan to pander to tribal leaders. But the euphoria of 2001 showed that the ordinary people didn't want the theocratic regime in place.

 

And they probably don't want it now. Who would?

The Taliban are not heroes. They are not freedom fighters. They're about as democratic and liberal as Oliver Cromwell. And they deserve to die. The fact that they're being negotiated with and are simply waiting to overthrow Karzai is irrelevant. They are not the legitimate representatives of the Afghan people.

Some join them because they represent order and have feigned tolerance to gain more support. But it's all an act and one they'll drop as soon as we leave.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Typhus

[Triple Vacuum Seal]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

bullsh*t, the Taliban have done countless terroristic attacks against their own people when they took over the control and later, oppress women, pactice human trafficking and sexual slavery.

That's not the US' problem.

...until 9/11 when we had to chase that silly motherf*cker Bin Laden all through their mountains. Al Queada supported the Taliban too.

[TheGodDamnMaster]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

bullsh*t, the Taliban have done countless terroristic attacks against their own people when they took over the control and later, oppress women, pactice human trafficking and sexual slavery.

That's not the US' problem.

...until 9/11 when we had to chase that silly motherf*cker Bin Laden all through their mountains. Al Queada supported the Taliban too.

That was over 11 years ago. Bin Laden is gone, both of those organizations are falling apart or are already in shambles.

[GrandMaster Smith]

You do realize that none of that would've happened if you would've never joined right?

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves..

 

No I don't respect you or anyone who condones to murder, no matter which way you were brainwashed into believing you were doing the right thing.

Let's say it's true and his story is accurate. You know what? He did a good thing by murdering those Islamists. The Taliban are child-killers, they mutilate the dead, they flog women, our British soldiers have died at their hands and the bastards parade their bullet-proof vests as trophies. I have no sympathy for them and I don't for a moment believe they're 'defending their homeland'.

 

Hello, have you looked at the causality rate of innocent women and children caused by us?

 

 

Hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost to 'revenge' for 3,000 deaths at the WTC attacks. No doubt it was tragic, but what are more innocent deaths going to solve? Who ever assigned our country that's driving ourselves broke to go out and police the world? Why aren't we invading Africa going after Kony? Or any other minor group that poses no threat to America what so ever..

[sivispacem]

 

Like you say it as if these scurry terrorists just want to murder all our families for the hell of it, yet fail to realize you got shot invading their land by them trying to defend themselves.

Your total lack understanding of the complex geopolitics and strategic realities of Afghanistan makes you a completely laughable embarrassment.

Okay, then please explain why.

Which bit? My primary indignation was displayed at the idea that US got a violent response for "invading their land", which has absolutely nothing to do with the level of violence directed internally and at external powers currently in Afghanistan. People have very short memories and seem to forget the fact that Afghanistan was effectively in a state of civil war between 1989 and 1996, when the Taliban "officially" took power. Even after that point, Afghanistan has been racked with tribal and internal conflict, violence of just about every kind, blood feuds and all sorts of other unsavoury things. There have been many excellent books written that have examined the realities behind violence against the Coalition troops, and it has little if anything to do with individuals "defending themselves" against some foreign oppressor. It's basically a give-away for someone who isn't really versed on the subject matter at hand. For instance, if the Afghan people seek to resist an occupation, why is the vast majority of violence that occurs exacted by Afghans against Afghans entirely separate from the actions of either the Coalition or even agents or supporters of the Afghan government? This is a nation without real identity; like many regional powers nothing more than a loose conglomerate of tribes and factions that have been in a perpetual state of war for the best part of the last thousand years, if not considerably longer. To most groups in Afghanistan, the Taliban are as, if not more, alien than Western troops, especially this late on in the conflict- the Taliban only ruled for five years, and the current administration in it's various forms has ruled for around eleven. The issue is a lack of ethnographical understanding cuts both ways- those who try and argue that the operations of foreign powers abroad are unnecessary tend to imprint their own views on necessity onto their image of the adversary (or perceived adversary) and therefore are just as ignorant of the reality as the radical hawks, and in many cases even more so.

 

 

caused by us?

You either have a very poor understanding of causality or are deliberately distorting reality to make a point. Especially given that all estimates indicate violent death rates in the high hundreds to low thousands annually between the end of the Soviet occupation and the fall of the Taliban regime. In the context of recent Afghan history, the violent death rate in the last decade or so is actually lower than it was before.

 

Also, for the sake of perspective, it's worth mentioning that more civilians alone have died in the drug war in Mexico in the last five years than have been killed on all sides, both civilian and military, in the entirety of the approaching-12-year campaign in Afghanistan.

Edited January 10, 2013 by sivispacem

[lolleroz]

inb4 we discover the guy's 13 years old or something