A J Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm worried Rockstar might screw up the multiplayer, and here's why. DLC and Small multiplayer maps outside of freemode It's no secret that the number one selling games other than GTA on consoles are FPS's, I worry Rockstar will try to emulate this success by adapting similar things found in these games to V. By this I'm talking about maps that are small enough to camp in, and rip off downloadable content to make as much money as possible. Ballad of Gay Tony introduced small maps, and took away vehicles from team death matches. that to me isn't GTA. Having a whole island and lots of options on how to play a Team Death Match is, confinement to a certain area should only be reserved to games like Call of Duty. One of the things I liked so much about IV was also the simple fact that every gun was available to a new comer than a highly ranked player could also use, Red Dead Redemption didn't have this, and nor did Max Payne 3, you join a game there as a newcomer and you'll find all the better players are better equiped, not just better experienced. Appealing to all players, particularly casual players too much I hate to sound elitist, but I really do believe V should fully remove full autoaim from multiplayer, especially player vs player. And without doubt, player (on foot) vs player (in car). I think it's a mistake to split a community into two separate playing styles, and leads to a divide. If at the very least, no autoaim is default I'll be happy though. Uninspired Modes and Over emphasis on free mode Whilst I admit Free mode is an imagination gold mine, where you can literally invent anything you want and play however you wish, I'm hoping along side it and with as much attention there are unique modes, that set V apart from other games, sure include the standard Team Death Match and Races, but also add to it, the random and never repetitive modes from in IV and to an extent The Lost and Damned. I'd personally love to see Cops n Crooks return, and a version of Team Mafiya Work (Taking calls and doing jobs against other teams, in the very essence GTA). I found Ballad of Gay Tony disappointing online because they gave us all those brilliant weapons, parachutes and unique vehicles but they were only limited to tdm or free mode. Over powered jets I don't mind this, if Rockstar provides players on the ground, a means to counter them, perhaps a tank or homing missiles. I just don't want to find every free mode with it being a battle from the sky, or a race to the fighter jet spawn. Cheaters, glitchers, turbo's and modders IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. That's all for now, please feel free to add your own concerns and thoughts, or give feedback on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetx1xracer Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm worried Rockstar might screw up the multiplayer, and here's why. DLC and Small multiplayer maps outside of freemode It's no secret that the number one selling games other than GTA on consoles are FPS's, I worry Rockstar will try to emulate this success by adapting similar things found in these games to V. By this I'm talking about maps that are small enough to camp in, and rip off downloadable content to make as much money as possible. Ballad of Gay Tony introduced small maps, and took away vehicles from team death matches. that to me isn't GTA. Having a whole island and lots of options on how to play a Team Death Match is, confinement to a certain area should only be reserved to games like Call of Duty. One of the things I liked so much about IV was also the simple fact that every gun was available to a new comer than a highly ranked player could also use, Red Dead Redemption didn't have this, and nor did Max Payne 3, you join a game there as a newcomer and you'll find all the better players are better equiped, not just better experienced. Appealing to all players, particularly casual players too much I hate to sound elitist, but I really do believe V should fully remove full autoaim from multiplayer, especially player vs player. And without doubt, player (on foot) vs player (in car). I think it's a mistake to split a community into two separate playing styles, and leads to a divide. If at the very least, no autoaim is default I'll be happy though. Uninspired Modes and Over emphasis on free mode Whilst I admit Free mode is an imagination gold mine, where you can literally invent anything you want and play however you wish, I'm hoping along side it and with as much attention there are unique modes, that set V apart from other games, sure include the standard Team Death Match and Races, but also add to it, the random and never repetitive modes from in IV and to an extent The Lost and Damned. I'd personally love to see Cops n Crooks return, and a version of Team Mafiya Work (Taking calls and doing jobs against other teams, in the very essence GTA). I found Ballad of Gay Tony disappointing online because they gave us all those brilliant weapons, parachutes and unique vehicles but they were only limited to tdm or free mode. Over powered jets I don't mind this, if Rockstar provides players on the ground, a means to counter them, perhaps a tank or homing missiles. I just don't want to find every free mode with it being a battle from the sky, or a race to the fighter jet spawn. Cheaters, glitchers, turbo's and modders IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. That's all for now, please feel free to add your own concerns and thoughts, or give feedback on mine. People have the right to choose what type of game type they want to play (auto or no auto) and not be forced to play with only one option. It's like cheats in single player, you dont have to use them, theyre just there if you want to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHARKEM Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 fully remove auto aim? can't agree with that and doubt it will happen. they are most likely going with a normal / hardcore selection and offer much less options to the host. this will be better as it will reduce lobby waiting and host kicking etc. wow IV was a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetx1xracer Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 fully remove auto aim? can't agree with that and doubt it will happen. they are most likely going with a normal / hardcore selection and offer much less options to the host. this will be better as it will reduce lobby waiting and host kicking etc. wow IV was a mess. I believe people should be able to host, it just added that extra feel of freedom of being able to customize the settings of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azali10 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Small confined maps make sense for death match game types, it's kind of the point of a deathmatch. So does ranked progression. Honestly if you're any good it doesn't matter what weapon you use. For objective game types a more open map makes more sense. And for free roam we would, of course, have a full map with all vehicles and all free roam has to offer. Whether you'll admit it or not the confined spaces of max payne 3 worked a lot better for deathmatch than anything in GTA4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ill-thoughts Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 if they ported all the online modes from GTA4 over to GTA5, i would be satisfied....thats really All theyve got to do. but honestly, if they put Mafiya Work, Turf Wars and Drug Wars into the single player, i would NEVER play online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infiniteammo Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Can't say I agree, Max Payne 3 was the small map, tight combat, DLC heavy entry for Rockstar Games, I don't see them carving Los Santos into DLC only sections. Will they do DLC only perks/weapons... probably, but I've already alotted the 2400 MSP it takes to get the Rockstar Pass just for that reason. It's either that or miss out, or watch them raise the prices of their games from 59.99 USD to what like 84.99? It's the way of the world, freaking milk where I live is 3.99 a gallon too... >.> I like soft lock in Max Payne 3, and auto aim in Red Dead Revolver left the door open to out think your opponent, so I guess I'm in the other camp, I can't say I ever spent too much time in free aim for IV, or even tried turning auto aim off for the single player campaign. What I would like to see is them expand options for hosting a free roam session, disallow specific weapons, perks, or a group of vehicles, I mean if you're hosting, should be your rules. With that the ability to turn Soft Lock off seems logical, or just setting that up in Multiplayer preferences like in IV (all you could do there is cops on or off, friendly fire on or off, and auto aim though). The only "fear" I really have with the DLC is how the weapons and avatars for IV, TLaD, and TBoGT were splintered, TLaD to me had the best avatars and guns, I liked the special online police vehicles from TBoGT, and the physics from IV just felt better than the other two... so I'l give you that. I wanted al three to be a mix, I feel it was a mistake to seperate the thre. Though I entirely agree about people cheating/modded consoles, Xbox Multiplayer is ruined for IV/Episodes because of people with modded consoles turning themselves invincible, setting everyone else on fire, then locking up everyone else's console, the last being entirely unacceptable, why Microsoft, sony, or Rockstar Games didn't patch that, and still wont ...boggles my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. I've been playing in PS3 version of GTA IV/EFLC online for years with no sign of hackers or modders. However, I always see them when I play the 360 version at my friend's house. They pretty much spoil the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Tavares Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 For some idea, check out the BGF events on youtube. Sure they use mods, but this stuff could easily be implemented into GTA V's multiplayer. Things like demolition derby and cat & mouse would be top-notch. Here's how I could see them working: Demo Derby Turn your vehicle into a missile by forcing it into other players' vehicles. Find power-ups scattered all over the arena to help in your fight. Power-ups range from Double-Damage, where your vehicle deals out twice the damage per collision, and Invincibility, in which your vehicle sparkles, and is immune to damage for a short time. Last player standing wins! Cat & Mouse One player in an AirTug, the other in an indestructible Rhino tank! Race from checkpoint to checkpoint in an attempt to outrun the pursuing player. Find NOS bottles and invincibility power-ups to help on your journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHARKEM Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 fully remove auto aim? can't agree with that and doubt it will happen. they are most likely going with a normal / hardcore selection and offer much less options to the host. this will be better as it will reduce lobby waiting and host kicking etc. wow IV was a mess. I believe people should be able to host, it just added that extra feel of freedom of being able to customize the settings of a game. well they could keep the options for private matches but not public. people would just quit if they didn't like the options so lobbys wouldn't have as many players as they could. everyone wanted to be the host or the host wouldn't start the game and ended up getting kicked. sure i had some great fun games but it could have been much better with a lot less time pissing about in lobbys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakprince Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I definitely agree on removing auto aim completely, It split max payne 3's community up too much, more people played auto aim rather than free aim. Auto aiming takes little to-no skill whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienWillHeMonsta Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I definitely agree on removing auto aim completely, It split max payne 3's community up too much, more people played auto aim rather than free aim. Auto aiming takes little to-no skill whatsoever. If nobody want's to play without autoaim that's their choice - and most people dont want to play without autoaim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Can we please not argue about the auto-aim/free-aim thing. It's been discussed and argued over and over for far too long. Leave it to Rockstar. I agree that the TBOGT(cod) small DM maps don't belong in GTA. GTA always had freedom, and always should. In short, I agree with everything you said. All game modes from IV (and EFLC) need to return to V, including TLaD aggressive races. Edited January 9, 2013 by DarkKingBernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarFish20 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Over powered jets I don't mind this, if Rockstar provides players on the ground, a means to counter them, perhaps a tank or homing missiles. I just don't want to find every free mode with it being a battle from the sky, or a race to the fighter jet spawn. Cheaters, glitchers, turbo's and modders IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. I would say these 2 are my main concerns. If there were no means of bringing a jet down, it will be disappointing but not a game breaker. I dislike modders when they are complete tools and just kill you every minute, when they spawn funky cars and what not they are alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 What if V's Multiplayer will be like "WoW"? Not exactly like it, obviously, but from the core aspect - One big map, anyone can join at any time, you can do whatever you desire, you run into other people etc...Would this be possible? Say you wanna do racing, so you make your way up north, cause that's where illegal street racing is going down. It's organic, there's no waiting in lobbies for game-modes to fill up and start, it's all happening ingame. On your way to the race you might come across 2 groups of people, dressed in green and purple, having a shootout in the middle of the streets seemingly fighting over turf. There are certain game modes in progress and you can spectate on those, or even jump in (don't know if possible...) as they're taking place in the same world you're in. Well don't mind the shooting and keep driving. Planes and helicopters in the sky, police sirens in the distance, there's lots of stuff going down...anything could happen. Maybe a dude tries to jack your car, or while you're at Burger Shot the place get robbed...who knows?! One big Los Santos map with millions of players running around in it at the same time, each going after the benjamins, trying to rise to the top of Los Santos....that would be so awesome. Namsayin? Is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetx1xracer Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 fully remove auto aim? can't agree with that and doubt it will happen. they are most likely going with a normal / hardcore selection and offer much less options to the host. this will be better as it will reduce lobby waiting and host kicking etc. wow IV was a mess. I believe people should be able to host, it just added that extra feel of freedom of being able to customize the settings of a game. well they could keep the options for private matches but not public. people would just quit if they didn't like the options so lobbys wouldn't have as many players as they could. everyone wanted to be the host or the host wouldn't start the game and ended up getting kicked. sure i had some great fun games but it could have been much better with a lot less time pissing about in lobbys. but that wouldn't kill multiplayer. & obviously if people dont like the options theyll leave & join/make a new game. I seriously dont see what point youre trying to make about hosting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A J Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Some really good responses in here, I appreciate them. I'll try to address a few points. Autoaim / Lock on or Free aim / Disallow As somebody mentioned no need to debate here which you prefer, and already it goes to show divisive this happens to be amongst players, two separate camps, splitting a multiplayer experience into 60%(autoaim on) and 40%(free aim/disallow), this can't be good for longevity of the game? I don't know the solution, but perhaps there could be lobbies or servers were this setting was distinguished, but actually voted for by the lobby, much like the next map feature works in multiplayer games, if the majority in the lobby prefer no auto lock, it's played with free aim. DLC, Max Payne 3 did this, but GTA V won't as much I hope you are right, but I don't want it to be inevitable that Rockstar would do this with GTA, we all know they will, but to what extent! You mentioned prices in life, but surely videogames cost enough as it is? No denying that with Episodes of Liberty City, we had DLC that was worth every penny, but my fear is that it won't be this good in V, we'll have to pay for avatar outfits or worse 'weapons'. Don't forget it wasn't only MP3 that had a lot of DLC with it, so did Red Dead and to a degree LA Noire. I love GTA and I just don't want it to be like everyother game made by E.A. What if it's like WoW / a very active world / lots of players at once I both like and don't like this idea, If I want to play a game of race, I want to pick the track and the settings, but perhaps also have a non ranked for fun variation within free mode also appeals. I'm sure R* will make free mode feel more alive in this aspect, more to do with more structured mini games within it, but I just hope it doesn't come at the cost of custom servers and ability to pick and chose settings, in ranked modes also. -------------------- Adding to this topic of thoughts and concerns I thought I would add the following points. Small things that could of been better in GTA IV multiplayer Party Mode I think it is and always has been underused, and simply not workable. They need to do this better in V. One of the reasons for this could be argued that in many games, lobbies are often full of players switching to stronger sides, or misbalanced sides. Separate leaderboards for the different aiming systems I think it goes without saying, one is more skilled than the other, whilst at the same time it is also the least played. Some type of punishment / honor system for quitting games How many times do people quit a race, if they realise they won't win, or leave a game just before the end if they care about their stats and don't want to record a loss? I think there should be some sort of reputation feature for players who complete games, rather than quit mid way or before the end. Modes- updatable After playing a lot of Cops n Crooks, experienced players learn the position of getaway vehicle locations, if V has similar modes, I'd like to see Rockstar constantly updating the mode to keep things fresh, like making new spawns. Enable voice chat muting in lobbies Goes without saying, somebody playing annoying music in the lobby is such a ball ache in GTA, IV nor Episodes had any mute option, surely V will have this ability! Swimming to the edge of the map noobs I hope those sharks eat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 GTAV needs a much better level-up system. In IV it was just a long, boring grind and all you got were a few bits of clothes. In GTAV, they shouldn't take RDR's path of unlocking guns, all guns should be availible straight away where you can make your own loadouts (which can be instantly changed at the trunk of your car and various black market dealers around the city, always with quick access) but things rank-up related should be aesthetic. Yes, you SHOULD be able to make a good personalised car straight from the go and have a character that you like straight away, but unlocks should be small accessories for cars, guns and clothing, so you can show your rank but still look nice straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm worried Rockstar might screw up the multiplayer, and here's why. DLC and Small multiplayer maps outside of freemode It's no secret that the number one selling games other than GTA on consoles are FPS's, I worry Rockstar will try to emulate this success by adapting similar things found in these games to V. By this I'm talking about maps that are small enough to camp in, and rip off downloadable content to make as much money as possible. Ballad of Gay Tony introduced small maps, and took away vehicles from team death matches. that to me isn't GTA. Having a whole island and lots of options on how to play a Team Death Match is, confinement to a certain area should only be reserved to games like Call of Duty. One of the things I liked so much about IV was also the simple fact that every gun was available to a new comer than a highly ranked player could also use, Red Dead Redemption didn't have this, and nor did Max Payne 3, you join a game there as a newcomer and you'll find all the better players are better equiped, not just better experienced. Appealing to all players, particularly casual players too much I hate to sound elitist, but I really do believe V should fully remove full autoaim from multiplayer, especially player vs player. And without doubt, player (on foot) vs player (in car). I think it's a mistake to split a community into two separate playing styles, and leads to a divide. If at the very least, no autoaim is default I'll be happy though. Uninspired Modes and Over emphasis on free mode Whilst I admit Free mode is an imagination gold mine, where you can literally invent anything you want and play however you wish, I'm hoping along side it and with as much attention there are unique modes, that set V apart from other games, sure include the standard Team Death Match and Races, but also add to it, the random and never repetitive modes from in IV and to an extent The Lost and Damned. I'd personally love to see Cops n Crooks return, and a version of Team Mafiya Work (Taking calls and doing jobs against other teams, in the very essence GTA). I found Ballad of Gay Tony disappointing online because they gave us all those brilliant weapons, parachutes and unique vehicles but they were only limited to tdm or free mode. Over powered jets I don't mind this, if Rockstar provides players on the ground, a means to counter them, perhaps a tank or homing missiles. I just don't want to find every free mode with it being a battle from the sky, or a race to the fighter jet spawn. Cheaters, glitchers, turbo's and modders IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. That's all for now, please feel free to add your own concerns and thoughts, or give feedback on mine. Very well put. I think the nickel 'n' diming will continue with V and we'll probably see the whole of racing as a separate DLC. I think they should drop the unpopular modes from the match list menu and put them all into free mode. They became dead too early in IV and it got hard to get a match. MW, TMW, CJC, TCJC an Turf War would be a lot more popular if the just cropped up randomly in Free Mode. GTA IV's MP was massive and sprawling and great fun until the DLC's started to fragment the player base and hackers became too frequent. I don't think R* care about that as long as they've got your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Appealing to all players, particularly casual players too much I hate to sound elitist, but I really do believe V should fully remove full autoaim from multiplayer, especially player vs player. And without doubt, player (on foot) vs player (in car). I think it's a mistake to split a community into two separate playing styles, and leads to a divide. If at the very least, no autoaim is default I'll be happy though. This is what I fear the most, while I'd like MP to become free-aim only, unfortunately, the majority of players prefer lock-on. One thing I thought of was to have different servers for Free mode with AA on and AA off but keep the competitive game modes AA off only. Over powered jets I don't mind this, if Rockstar provides players on the ground, a means to counter them, perhaps a tank or homing missiles. I just don't want to find every free mode with it being a battle from the sky, or a race to the fighter jet spawn. Jets will be good, you know why? Because they can counter helicopters, those are the real problem. A jet wont be able to rain down missiles on ground units unless they are in a straightway, and they can only do a run at a time, giving you plenty of time to hide until he turns around back for another shower. Cheaters, glitchers, turbo's and modders IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. I have played some games which had a "Report" feature within, that could help out R* with hunting down the cheaters/boosters/harmful glitchers/hackers. Edited January 9, 2013 by Greasepalms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk420 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) LOL backfire AJ!!! Too many noobs wanting AA. If there`s not reward for DA over AA and if there is Loadouts like MP3 im out. Too many wee boys who like role play and such around here. We are a different breed m8..let these jokers batter in with their precious free mode. Grease any report system will be abused as you know GTA attracts the scum of the video gaming world.Old men with no life .or kids who`s parents dont give a sh*t about them. Both parties cant handle getting beat. Ie if you good your going to get reported. The honor system has got to be in there for quitters. If i had my way quitters would be locked out the online mode forever. Not so much of party mode but a crew mode which R* have the basis of already in place. I hope im wrong but i think its all going suck anyway. Catered for the noob who in most cases are not old enough to purchace the f*cking game anyway. ROLL OUT!!!! Edited January 9, 2013 by Madmonk420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickieM Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 NO DLC FOR MULTIPLAYER, LIMITED AMMO IN AIRCRAFT, OPTIONAL free aim without soft-lock, hardcore mode with realistic damage, none of that Max Payne 3 levelling/perk/unlock sh*t (no unfair advantages), faster running that MP3.. I think it'd be perfect if they can get it as close as they can to RDR's multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk420 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 NO DLC FOR MULTIPLAYER, LIMITED AMMO IN AIRCRAFT, OPTIONAL free aim without soft-lock, hardcore mode with realistic damage, none of that Max Payne 3 levelling/perk/unlock sh*t (no unfair advantages), faster running that MP3.. I think it'd be perfect if they can get it as close as they can to RDR's multiplayer. Not bad m8... bad not at all. I like your style. Finaly a hero Los Santos Deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Flam3s Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think one of the reasons why more people play auto aim it's because R* put it as default and lot's of people who play online wont even be aware it exists and if they do find out, they gonna be too used to auto aim or get their ass handed so it will discourage them. Make manual aiming default online and in single player and from then on people can choose which one to play. Fixes for auto aim should be, separate leaderboards, make it more like a soft lock and it won't work vs players in a car/ doing drive by's. I also hope choppers and jets have limited ammo which they could refill like health packs and it could prevent them from spam killing and give ground players more means to fight them such as heat seeking missiles, anti aircraft machine guns and vehicles with mounted weapons. On freemode, you should be able to choose your customized weapon load out and car to spawn with, but on competitive modes all weapons should be readily available and I hope that money earned online can be used for something besides ranking up like buying gang safe houses, cars to be spawned with etc. Popular modes from iv multiplayer such as TMW, CnC with improvements should be there along with new modes and co-op should have more variation. For example if theres a heist co-op mission it should randomly happen in different varied places and escape points have to change too so it doesn't get boring like the co-op from iv. That's all I can think for now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A J Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Before Max Payne 3, LA Noire and to extent Episodes in Liberty City, I thought everything Rockstar would touch would turn to gold, San Andreas, IV, The Warriors game, Bully, Vice City.....those were games that have stayed with me, major parts of growing up as a teenager and simply put, brilliant games. Don't get me wrong, Max Payne 3, had the most fantastic single player experience, music and over the top action I've had the joy of playing in recent years, but multiplayer left me feeling worried about what V has in store. Appreciate your thoughts, some good points and ideas coming here, I'd like to think there could be Rockstar employee right now, jotting some of these down. Just to add my thoughts on the following... Report System Madmonk is right it would get abused, but I think it could work, if Rockstar actively monitors the game, checks leaderboards, notices weird patterns, like boosters. Combined with a report system / honour-reputation status, the less sporting players would get punished (negative stats- named and shamed on the newswire) Turf war popping up in free mode Again this idea of free mode being an interactive hub of different modes, happening in real time, I think that's a novel idea, but as I said before, these could be mini games, or unranked equivalents available. I really don't want unique modes that IV brought us, removed in favour of an over-emphasis on just free mode. Competitive gamers don't want to be roaming in free mode, just to start games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution-XW Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Appealing to all players, particularly casual players too much I hate to sound elitist, but I really do believe V should fully remove full autoaim from multiplayer, especially player vs player. And without doubt, player (on foot) vs player (in car). I think it's a mistake to split a community into two separate playing styles, and leads to a divide. If at the very least, no autoaim is default I'll be happy though. This is what I fear the most, while I'd like MP to become free-aim only, unfortunately, the majority of players prefer lock-on. One thing I thought of was to have different servers for Free mode with AA on and AA off but keep the competitive game modes AA off only. Over powered jets I don't mind this, if Rockstar provides players on the ground, a means to counter them, perhaps a tank or homing missiles. I just don't want to find every free mode with it being a battle from the sky, or a race to the fighter jet spawn. Jets will be good, you know why? Because they can counter helicopters, those are the real problem. A jet wont be able to rain down missiles on ground units unless they are in a straightway, and they can only do a run at a time, giving you plenty of time to hide until he turns around back for another shower. Cheaters, glitchers, turbo's and modders IV on ps3 remained relatively ok until the last 12 months, but I really do hope Rockstar remains actively in control of V, and in the first place tries their best to prevent players from cheating, impossible I know. I have played some games which had a "Report" feature within, that could help out R* with hunting down the cheaters/boosters/harmful glitchers/hackers. This. I mean, I can't stand spawning next to an auto-aim noob each time I died, so all they had to do was aim and shoot. Sometimes, this happened in crowds of 10+ players that all they did was aim and shoot and you couldn't even use your phone to get out of the room tbh. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Jets, I'm not sure how this is going to work honestly, I just hope it's easy to take down the noob choppers that noobs like to use so much because that's all they can do to defend themselves, and it was TOO annoying in IV. But what R* can do is test how this works, if it's too hard for players on foot, then each time they die 3+ times from a Jet or Chopper, give them vehicle lock-on Smaws with 2-3 ammo in it, in case they miss. P.S - I agree with the report player option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugotsmoked Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I hate to sound elitist But you do, auto aim is for noobs...free aim is where the men play...blah, blah, blah. Let retread some more bullcrap no one else cares about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 ^ No one reply to him in order to avoid Allow vs Disallow, please.^ @Revolution: About your idea of giving players a rocket launcher after a certain amount of deaths from aircraft gunfire... I think that a more suitable "death streak reward" would be a defensive one rather than an offensive. One that allows you to retreat to safety and plan an attack through your own methods rather than spawning with a rocket launcher in your hands, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugotsmoked Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I am not trying to turn this into allow vs disallow, I want the game to have both options and I feel being good at one or the other does not make me superior. I am not an elitist, I am a humanist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-22_Raptor-02 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 In my opinion jets are just as bad as helicopters if jets in gta v are able to hover then they will be able to cirlce strafe like a helicopter in gta iv. A heat seeking missile should be a salution to take down a jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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