GTA SA remodeled (only a project)

[RexP10S14]

RSA (Remodeled San Andreas)

Hi, I want to remodel GTA SA and later Vice City (or vice versa) and for people to take me seriously because I am a noob I leave a picture:

This part is of LAn (Los Santos North) and the name of the model is staples_lan.dff

It's only a example, a little bit of the map

and i know that the progress is too slow so, I decide to post this to find help or support to form team and start seriously

with the project.

 

 

Thanks

 

But now I begin with a new one

(not GTA:SA) check the look down quotes.

Edited January 15, 2013 by Rex21712

[AB0333]

That looks fancy.

 

Seems you got skills, but why don't you use them for something better? I mean, what you're doing now is cool, but takes lots of time and it's almost hardly noticeable. Why not do something better, example, making a whole new map? Why not use your time for something better? HD models without HD textures are nothing anyways.

Also, I suggest re-sizing those pics a bit, or giving links to them, they stretch the page, looks very uncomfortable.

[ALMOST610]

It seems like you are wasting alot of memory on all those useless squares, an open flat car park area should not need a couple hundred polys for well what is essentially nothing.

 

Who would not a road that would make the game lag, try to be more efficient.

[RexP10S14]

It seems like you are wasting alot of memory on all those useless squares, an open flat car park area should not need a couple hundred polys for well what is essentially nothing.

 

Who would not a road that would make the game lag, try to be more efficient.

Yes that its true, but the HD models needs more polygons to be more defined, if not, download a model of a car well modeled of GTA IV / GTA SA and look at the number of the polygons.

 

My computer it's a scrap, mainly if trying to use GTAIV and work, most of the serious lag due to high load map and high polygon count models and then the graphics engine

 

So the lag depends on your computer and the level you want to bring the game

 

Thaks.

[RexP10S14]

That looks fancy.

 

Seems you got skills, but why don't you use them for something better? I mean, what you're doing now is cool, but takes lots of time and it's almost hardly noticeable. Why not do something better, example, making a whole new map? Why not use your time for something better? HD models without HD textures are nothing anyways.

Also, I suggest re-sizing those pics a bit, or giving links to them, they stretch the page, looks very uncomfortable.

Mmmmm what you propose to me, have you got an idea?

[AB0333]

I dunno, start making your own map. Here you have 100 level design ideas, maybe you'll get inspired by some of them, take a look, give it a shot.

[RexP10S14]

I dunno, start making your own map. Here you have 100 level design ideas, maybe you'll get inspired by some of them, take a look, give it a shot.

Thaks but i want to do it realistic, so I decide to start dowloading Google earth and and set parts of miami for my project (as a model for Vice City) but I have a big problem, i don't know how to program IDE parts to make traffic and main.scm for put vehicles and events... :S

[Frank.s]

 

It seems like you are wasting alot of memory on all those useless squares, an open flat car park area should not need a couple hundred polys for well what is essentially nothing.Who would not a road that would make the game lag, try to be more efficient.

Yes that its true, but the HD models needs more polygons to be more defined, if not, download a model of a car well modeled of GTA IV / GTA SA and look at the number of the polygons. You're missing the point, you've used loads of faces/polys needlessly, you could get the same level of detail in your "HD" carpark with 1/5th of the amount of polys used. Loads of polys are being added needlessly.

 

 

but the HD models needs more polygons to be more defined

Nope, it's possible to make a carpark model in higher definition than the one you made by using half as many polys as you made.

 

 

try to be more efficient.

This.

 

Also, lol @ you talking down to ALMOST610 when it's actually the other way around.

 

 

i don't know how to program IDE parts to make traffic and main.scm for put vehicles and events... :S

Ped/Vehicle paths are easy on SA, if you make a new SA map mod (from scratch, removing SA) then i can do the vehicle+ped paths for you. I know i probably sounded like an arse at the start of this post but that's because i wanna be harsh on crap mods and help good mods succeed. Edited January 13, 2013 by Frank.s

[RexP10S14]

It seems like you are wasting alot of memory on all those useless squares, an open flat car park area should not need a couple hundred polys for well what is essentially nothing.Who would not a road that would make the game lag, try to be more efficient.

Yes that its true, but the HD models needs more polygons to be more defined, if not, download a model of a car well modeled of GTA IV / GTA SA and look at the number of the polygons.

You're missing the point, you've used loads of faces/polys needlessly, you could get the same level of detail in your "HD" carpark with 1/5th of the amount of polys used. Loads of polys are being added needlessly.

 

 

but the HD models needs more polygons to be more defined

Nope, it's possible to make a carpark model in higher definition than the one you made by using half as many polys as you made.

 

 

try to be more efficient.

This.

 

Also, lol @ you talking down to ALMOST610 when it's actually the other way around.

 

 

i don't know how to program IDE parts to make traffic and main.scm for put vehicles and events... :S

Ped/Vehicle paths are easy on SA, if you make a new SA map mod (from scratch, removing SA) then i can do the vehicle+ped paths for you. I know i probably sounded like an arse at the start of this post but that's because i wanna be harsh on crap mods and help good mods succeed.

Mmmm it's sound interesting, can you teach me to do "more efficieint" and "LOW poly HD models" ?maybe, we can do a mod...

I think in Miami map or something like this

 

PD: Isn't a sarcasm

[AB0333]

 

can you teach me to do "more efficieint" and "LOW poly HD models"

By saying 'efficient', they meant making good looking models with small number of vertex/polys. Surplus of polys won't bring anything - except making game slower and laggy.

There's no need for ultimate intelligency to understand that - keep making nice models, but keep number of vertex low as possible.

 

Example, you can make one single road two ways:

First way is too high poly road, and second to make same road, make it look equally good, but with 'normal' number of polygons. The one with more polys won't look much better than the one with less.

Shortly, surplus of polys doesn't mean HD. You can make low poly road look HD.

 

[RexP10S14]

can you teach me to do "more efficieint" and "LOW poly HD models"

By saying 'efficient', they meant making good looking models with small number of vertex/polys. Surplus of polys won't bring anything - except making game slower and laggy.

There's no need for ultimate intelligency to understand that - keep making nice models, but keep number of vertex low as possible.

 

Example, you can make one single road two ways:

First way is too high poly road, and second to make same road, make it look equally good, but with 'normal' number of polygons. The one with more polys won't look much better than the one with less.

Shortly, surplus of polys doesn't mean HD. You can make low poly road look HD.

Mmmm ok so example, 1 piece of road = 2 poligons, thats you mean , no?

But with mountains? it needs more poligons no?

[AB0333]

Lol, well, if the road is straight, without curves, one polygon is enough.

 

About mountain, you can make curvy road, along with terrain, then split it into parts if needed (one object must be smaller than a grind in 3ds max to work properly, without COL bugs), and import into game. One object (.dff/.col) must have below 2000 vertex (5000 faces), else the game will crash.

 

Off-topic: Resize your image in signature before mods disable it. Maximum resolution is 500x150.

Edited January 14, 2013 by AB0333

[RexP10S14]

Lol, well, if the road is straight, without curves, one polygon is enough.

 

About mountain, you can make curvy road, along with terrain, then split it into parts if needed (one object must be smaller than a grind in 3ds max to work properly, without COL bugs), and import into game. One object (.dff/.col) must have below 2000 vertex (5000 faces), else the game will crash.

I use Zmodeler , and if you excced this factor? (5000 faces) you can increase the stream memory, or not?

[Frank.s]

 

Off-topic: Resize your image in signature before mods disable it. Maximum resolution is 500x150.

+1

 

 

Here, i edited the pic to make it fit within GTAF's size limits and added a fade effect.

 

 

 

[img=http://i.imgur.com/wPU5P.png]

 

Edited January 14, 2013 by Frank.s

[RexP10S14]

Off-topic: Resize your image in signature before mods disable it. Maximum resolution is 500x150.

+1

 

 

Here, i edited the pic to make it fit within GTAF's size limits and added a fade effect.

 

 

 

[img=http://i.imgur.com/wPU5P.png]

 

Oh, thaks

[AB0333]

Nice one, Frank, looks sexy.

 

Zmodeler is OK. Yeah, the limit is 5000 faces, and if you overpass it, the game will crash.

However, there is a program named Limit Adjuster. You can increase faces limit using it, although I suggest you not to use it, because it's safer to keep limits as they are in the original game. San Andreas was designed for maximum of about 5000 faces, that is its natural limit, and if you ask me, it shouldn't be touched.

[RexP10S14]

Nice one, Frank, looks sexy.

 

Zmodeler is OK. Yeah, the limit is 5000 faces, and if you overpass it, the game will crash.

However, there is a program named Limit Adjuster. You can increase faces limit using it, although I suggest you not to use it, because it's safer to keep limits as they are in the original game. San Andreas was designed for maximum of about 5000 faces, that is its natural limit, and if you ask me, it shouldn't be touched.

Mmmm ok, if it's unsafely tio work i won't touch it

Nice, I begin with "a new project" , its a map completly created from scratch, I will try to do vice city 2 or something inspiring me in Miami (but the map will be small compared with the real), now I have 2 borderlands (not maped) and today I will do other 2.

And obiviously they are LOW poly models, (20x20 surface)

AlthoughI need other modders to help me programming and other thinks, so anyone are interested?

[AB0333]

Good luck on your project.

 

Well, I guess you'll first have to show some progress to attract people. Nobody wants to put hard work in a mod that isn't stable.

[RexP10S14]

Good luck on your project.

 

Well, I guess you'll first have to show some progress to attract people. Nobody wants to put hard work in a mod that isn't stable.

yah, I know it, I will do it when the map was a little advanced

Thanks for all your advices

[AB0333]

No problem, man, any time. If you need anything, feel free to ask me.

[RexP10S14]

No problem, man, any time. If you need anything, feel free to ask me.

Hey, I begin with a big beach and I want to know that what is better, more little piece of maps or less large pieces

[TheGreatDoug]

this is the only mod missing to fully remaster this game. although, by doing this you might have to fix some cutscenes.

Edited September 20, 2021 by TheGreatDoug

[TheGreatDoug]

looks like this forum is dead for 8 years but... the trilogy remaster has remodeled the map.

[Dragomazing]

On 10/28/2021 at 3:47 PM, TheGreatDoug said:

looks like this forum is dead for 8 years but... the trilogy remaster has remodeled the map.

I think they only remodeled characters and some car parts.

[TheGreatDoug]

On 11/14/2021 at 4:58 AM, Dragomazing said:

I think they only remodeled characters and some car parts.

Nah, they also fixed the low poly curves and added some interiors(that you can't enter).

 

Maybe this project should be revived and only port the new maps to the older (better) versions.

 

Edited November 15, 2021 by TheGreatDoug

[Dragomazing]

2 hours ago, TheGreatDoug said:

Nah, they also fixed the low poly curves and added some interiors(that you can't enter).

 

Maybe this project should be revived and only port the new maps to the older (better) versions.

 

Speaking about interiors, probably they bring that from older (better) versions.

 

For example in SA, Grotti building near 2 girls billbord have simple and unfinished interior, but you can't see it because glass texture is not see trough.

 

Also in VC, bike store in downtown (where you can steal pcj600) have almost finished interior and door as another object.