Triple Vacuum Seal Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I really wanted to discuss this in the Muscle & Fitness thread where people seem to know a good bit about this sort of thing. However, I didn't want to start a sh*t storm. So I figured I'd put this with all of the other unpopular opinions since this contains the same readers... There is little to no reliable evidence that blacks are genetically advantaged in sports and fitness. I find it slightly offensive that a lot of the hard work of becoming a quality athlete nowadays is written off as being a "genetic freak of nature" or "black genetics" despite the phrases having positive connotations. Even on Bodybuilding Forums some people choose believe in this nonsense. I often interpret it as a self-comforting belief held by many to help them accept their own athletic short-comings. In America, there is evidence to suggest that certain favorable genetic qualities from our modern interpretation of athleticism are present in many African Americans. However, that has nothing to do with the actual race of the person. The "favorable genetic traits" of black athletes are present in all races. The majority of "blacks" particularly in America come from Native American and/or European descendants as well. That's all whitewashed as we just focus on the black aspect of it. It just keeps coming across as a pseudo-intellectual claim to subtly discredit hard work, training, and athletic intelligence. I thinks it's just because we only see "black" or "white" instead of an athletes ancestral profile. As for the height myth, the tallest people in the world are in fact from Northern Europe (and wherever the best fed yet most active people tend to be). "shut up, sit down, relax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deffpony Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 There are definitely genetic differences. I'm on the road right now but when I get home ill will elaborate with some studies unless someone beats me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_fan Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I read that the only advantage that most black people have over other races is they usually have faster muscle fibres and are therefore usually naturally quicker. I agree with you on height and strength though, I watch the strongest men compettion all the time on ESPN and most of them are from countries such as Poland, Romania, Lithuania, most of them are pale white guys. I forget who made the ad and it was basically a bunch of black athletes doing different sports and at the end one of them said like 'black people are faster, stronger and better' or something along those lines. I thought 'wow how racist, imagine making an ad like that with white people and doing a similar thing, there would hysteria all over the media'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kapone Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 There are definitely genetic differences. I'm on the road right now but when I get home ill will elaborate with some studies unless someone beats me to it I'm pretty much in your boat. Except I can't be bothered to elaborate on the differences either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deffpony Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I cant find the sources right now but I will give you my opinion based on certain facts. First and foremost the human DNA has been studied for the past 15 years in attempts to determine the differences in race. While they have found some interesting features that might point to a certain race the probability of its accuracy doesnt place it above the realm of luck. Therefore, as far as we can tell, genetically there is no differences in race. With that being said, african americans have different body compositions for sure. Blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers compared to non blacks. Fast twitch muscle fibers essentially are the muscles responsible for explosive movements, while slow twitch is more responsible for sustained movements. The stand up comedian Bill Burr has a joke that actually holds a valid point. He states that americans have engineered a super race in the blacks through slavery. During slavery if you were unable to work you would probably be killed. Only those who could sustain long and vigorous work loads would survive. This essentially was like a man made acute evolution of an entire centralized race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple Vacuum Seal Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I cant find the sources right now but I will give you my opinion based on certain facts. First and foremost the human DNA has been studied for the past 15 years in attempts to determine the differences in race. While they have found some interesting features that might point to a certain race the probability of its accuracy doesnt place it above the realm of luck. Therefore, as far as we can tell, genetically there is no differences in race. With that being said, african americans have different body compositions for sure. Blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers compared to non blacks. Fast twitch muscle fibers essentially are the muscles responsible for explosive movements, while slow twitch is more responsible for sustained movements. The stand up comedian Bill Burr has a joke that actually holds a valid point. He states that americans have engineered a super race in the blacks through slavery. During slavery if you were unable to work you would probably be killed. Only those who could sustain long and vigorous work loads would survive. This essentially was like a man made acute evolution of an entire centralized race. I've heard a similar commentary on the fast-twitch slow-twitch concept. However, it's been proven that these can be developed in anyone. Though it would be proven an advantage if blacks were born with more of these; which might be the case. "shut up, sit down, relax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deffpony Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I cant find the sources right now but I will give you my opinion based on certain facts. First and foremost the human DNA has been studied for the past 15 years in attempts to determine the differences in race. While they have found some interesting features that might point to a certain race the probability of its accuracy doesnt place it above the realm of luck. Therefore, as far as we can tell, genetically there is no differences in race. With that being said, african americans have different body compositions for sure. Blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers compared to non blacks. Fast twitch muscle fibers essentially are the muscles responsible for explosive movements, while slow twitch is more responsible for sustained movements. The stand up comedian Bill Burr has a joke that actually holds a valid point. He states that americans have engineered a super race in the blacks through slavery. During slavery if you were unable to work you would probably be killed. Only those who could sustain long and vigorous work loads would survive. This essentially was like a man made acute evolution of an entire centralized race. I've heard a similar commentary on the fast-twitch slow-twitch concept. However, it's been proven that these can be developed in anyone. Though it would be proven an advantage if blacks were born with more of these; which might be the case. The misconception is that they have an extra muscle which is completely false, but they definitely have more fast twitch fibers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males: I don't really like AC/DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakorama Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. Same here. Every single song is the same, absolutely no variety whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudg3r Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 i don't like silk. its so slippery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. Same here. Every single song is the same, absolutely no variety whatsoever. aside from maybe TNT, I'd have to agree with you there, I'm not a big fan either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I cant find the sources right now but I will give you my opinion based on certain facts. First and foremost the human DNA has been studied for the past 15 years in attempts to determine the differences in race. While they have found some interesting features that might point to a certain race the probability of its accuracy doesnt place it above the realm of luck. Therefore, as far as we can tell, genetically there is no differences in race. With that being said, african americans have different body compositions for sure. Blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers compared to non blacks. Fast twitch muscle fibers essentially are the muscles responsible for explosive movements, while slow twitch is more responsible for sustained movements. The stand up comedian Bill Burr has a joke that actually holds a valid point. He states that americans have engineered a super race in the blacks through slavery. During slavery if you were unable to work you would probably be killed. Only those who could sustain long and vigorous work loads would survive. This essentially was like a man made acute evolution of an entire centralized race. I've heard a similar commentary on the fast-twitch slow-twitch concept. However, it's been proven that these can be developed in anyone. Though it would be proven an advantage if blacks were born with more of these; which might be the case. Of course anyone can have them, but on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. Same here. Every single song is the same, absolutely no variety whatsoever. aside from maybe TNT, I'd have to agree with you there, I'm not a big fan either. Im similar. High Volatge is the only song by them I like, but the rest is pollution to my ears. And tell ya what pisses me off? Bogans that think AC/DC is Australian. Is it becuase Long Way to the Top was filmed in!elbourne or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. Same here. Every single song is the same, absolutely no variety whatsoever. aside from maybe TNT, I'd have to agree with you there, I'm not a big fan either. Im similar. High Volatge is the only song by them I like, but the rest is pollution to my ears. And tell ya what pisses me off? Bogans that think AC/DC is Australian. Is it becuase Long Way to the Top was filmed in!elbourne or something? They don't think the band is Australian (most anyway) just that it's Australian to listen to ACDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 They don't think the band is Australian (most anyway) just that it's Australian to listen to ACDC. I know people who legitimately believe the members if the band are Australian and that it's an Australian band. I hope they're just a few idiots and that they confine themselves to there own musical opinions and don't share them with anyone else (especially if they're listening to AC/DC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_fan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. Same here. Every single song is the same, absolutely no variety whatsoever. aside from maybe TNT, I'd have to agree with you there, I'm not a big fan either. Im the same as you, only I would add jailbreak as well. I remember when I was a kid I thought ACDC were American, nearly every bogan at my cricket club looked at me like he was going to kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple Vacuum Seal Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I cant find the sources right now but I will give you my opinion based on certain facts. First and foremost the human DNA has been studied for the past 15 years in attempts to determine the differences in race. While they have found some interesting features that might point to a certain race the probability of its accuracy doesnt place it above the realm of luck. Therefore, as far as we can tell, genetically there is no differences in race. With that being said, african americans have different body compositions for sure. Blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers compared to non blacks. Fast twitch muscle fibers essentially are the muscles responsible for explosive movements, while slow twitch is more responsible for sustained movements. The stand up comedian Bill Burr has a joke that actually holds a valid point. He states that americans have engineered a super race in the blacks through slavery. During slavery if you were unable to work you would probably be killed. Only those who could sustain long and vigorous work loads would survive. This essentially was like a man made acute evolution of an entire centralized race. I've heard a similar commentary on the fast-twitch slow-twitch concept. However, it's been proven that these can be developed in anyone. Though it would be proven an advantage if blacks were born with more of these; which might be the case. Of course anyone can have them, but on average. That still doesn't answer my question though. I want to know if blacks have more fast twitch fibers on average at a certain age where they are finally studied, or are actually born with more on average. The "on average" designation doesn't explicitly exclude nurture over nature if this trait is measured after blacks have had the time to build these fibers on their own. I know in America's case, blacks and whites have different recreational sports preferences in their younger developmental years. Different cultures also have different styles of play as well (i.e: suburban basketball pickup games vs. urban basketball pick up games). Not that I don't believe you though. I just need some closure on this. "shut up, sit down, relax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChaos Reigns Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'm late to this but I'll add my opinion anyway. Neither pedophilia or homosexuality are a choice. And dare I say it... pedophilia is not wrong. Acting on their feelings in any way however is wrong. If pedophiles are able to completely control any urges or feelings they possess then I don't think they deserve to be burned at a stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. Same here. Every single song is the same, absolutely no variety whatsoever. aside from maybe TNT, I'd have to agree with you there, I'm not a big fan either. Im the same as you, only I would add jailbreak as well. I remember when I was a kid I thought ACDC were American, nearly every bogan at my cricket club looked at me like he was going to kill me. They ARE American. Lzw3 you were right, it's not just a few People. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 My unpopular opinion for Australian males:I don't really like AC/DC. I love AC/DC. My 2 favourites are Back In Black and Highway To Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I still think that Tokyo Drift is pretty decent. You need to watch it again sometime MeVeCe, its really the same as any other film in the series, doesn't really deserve the hate it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I still think that Tokyo Drift is pretty decent. You need to watch it again sometime MeVeCe, its really the same as any other film in the series, doesn't really deserve the hate it gets. It's not really terrible, but the lack of any original cast member except Dom's cameo and the setting in general does it in for me. Watchable, but not a great film or best in the series IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Incest isn't wrong unless the couple in question practice it without any form of protection and/or if it is performed by an adult with..a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChaos Reigns Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Incest isn't wrong unless the couple in question practice it without any form of protection and/or if it is performed by an adult with..a child. Interesting. Are you mainly referring to close family (brother/sister/father/mom/daughter/son), distant-ish relatives (2nd cousin etc.) or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Incest isn't wrong unless the couple in question practice it without any form of protection and/or if it is performed by an adult with..a child. Interesting. Are you mainly referring to close family (brother/sister/father/mom/daughter/son), distant-ish relatives (2nd cousin etc.) or both? Close relations. I mean, I sure as sh*t won't practice it, but the ones who do shouldn't be penalized because, well..it's their own private affair. Edited March 11, 2013 by Ferocious Banger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChaos Reigns Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Incest isn't wrong unless the couple in question practice it without any form of protection and/or if it is performed by an adult with..a child. Interesting. Are you mainly referring to close family (brother/sister/father/mom/daughter/son), distant-ish relatives (2nd cousin etc.) or both? Close relations. I mean, I sure as sh*t won't practice it, but the ones who do shouldn't be penalized because, we..it's their own private affair. Ok. Well I guess as long as they don't produce offspring and it is between consenting adults then I agree that it isn't really a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitValid Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Would this mean you should also be able to marry your sister (still no offspring allowed) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunziness Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 now that people are talking about fast and furious movies, I loved the 2nd one, its a good movie, and for me the 2nd best of all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) The Bugatti *Veyron's overall design is unattractive and I would never even think of buying one if I were wealthy. It's a 'meh' car. I'd much rather have a Maserati GranTurismo or a Ferrari Challenge Stradale. Edited March 12, 2013 by Kifflom112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy455 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I'm not sure if it's considered unpopular or not but people have fallen out with me over this. My ex cheated on me with the lad she's with now and they've just had a kid. Because she's got a kid, she's been given a free council flat. I think my opinion is, is that these people shouldn't be allowed to breed. We're already grossely overpopulated in the UK and with the influx of immigrants who get places, we're running out of space. I'm tired of all these morons who shoot out kids and get everything on a silver platter. "I might have laughed if I'd have remembered how." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...