baboultr Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 ...why are you asking that to us? are we R*? if you want to know for sure ask them directly on their facebook or twitter! because thats what most users do anyway...! how the hell do we know whats in R*'s mind?... Well it is a gtaforum duhhhh ...so what exactly you're asking for...i don't get it...do you want to actually know the REASON or you want our opinions onto what R* thinks regarding this subject?... ...and what's with those "its gtaforum" comment? it doesn't make any sense, are we supposed to be R*'s insiders or something? like...all of us? LOL basically opinions and if anyone has an exact answer from rockstar basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkman Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on] Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Separate Universes are required for the simple reason that the cities are contradictions. Imagine if Claude turned up in GTA IV. Where'd the Callahan bridge go? Or the dam? None of the locations where his story took place exist. So if he turned up, his backstory wouldn't fit or make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Because you end up with over complicated mythologies (like comics), it limits what you can do, the layout of the cities couldn't change, the tone of the 3D era doesn't fit with HD era...I could go on. R* has already answered this but I can't be arsed to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIsHorosho Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on]Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] cheats usage not allowed on this forums!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjamspear Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I don't think it's exactly a hard a d fast rule on R*s part, it's more of an explanations for the same place looking so different each generation. Think about this example: GTAIII was set in Liberty City. GTAIV was also set in Liberty City, but everything about the place was different. The layout, the pace names, everything. It's obvious why they did that, it would be terrible if they kept the city the same as it was in 2001 on and old console, but then story wise it makes no sense that the whole place would suddenly have changed layout in 7 years. So if they they think of it as being a separate "universe", it makes more sense to them and us. I hope that explains things a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestail Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on]Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] cheats usage not allowed on this forums!... So i can't use "baguvix"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboultr Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 I agree with you to an extent. By having the same universe, I don't mean they should release a game where you could play as all the protagonists. But I honestly don't see the harm of having little things hinting at different protagonists. Not exactly have something like a playable character or them be in a mission or a boss of a mission. A cameo is as far as they need to take it. But I don't see what's so bad. In fact the events don't even cross each other because: A. There all at different times (Vercetti in the 80's and CJ in the 90's, Niko in 2008, Michael, Frank and Trevor in 2012/2013) B. Even if they did happen all at the same time, there all in different locations (other than Michael, Franklin and Trevor in Los Santos) All I'm saying is I'd rather have them all in the same universe, than have them in seperate as it is pointless. But hey, my opinion i agree with your opinion like i said before i kinda understand why the gta 2 and gta iii universe couldn't be the same but gta iii and HD universe are similar there both 3d only difference is really is thats its HD! lol but thats my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahmatic Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 They don't have to do anything. Its their choice, their idea, and its one I fully agree with. Even if the old characters were to exist in the current setting, just as in real life, not every criminal interweaves with the rest. If CJ, Tommy, and Claude existed in V there would be no logical reason to randomly have them meet up with these new characters other than saying it was one hell of a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIsHorosho Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on]Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] cheats usage not allowed on this forums!... So i can't use "baguvix"? ...i don't know what you're talking about man...i really don't LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle-Eye Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 1. Its Boring 2. Its repetitive Yeah, i proved my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on]Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] cheats usage not allowed on this forums!... Good exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestail Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on]Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] cheats usage not allowed on this forums!... So i can't use "baguvix"? ...i don't know what you're talking about man...i really don't LOL SA PC cheat lol Correction: Infinite Health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIsHorosho Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [Zee mode on]Because the guys at Rockstar are lazy and they don't want to redesign old characters. [Zee mode off] cheats usage not allowed on this forums!... So i can't use "baguvix"? ...i don't know what you're talking about man...i really don't LOL SA PC cheat for full health, armour and $250,000 lol ...sounds more like "Adriaaan" mode to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
significantother Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 This is going on the thread simulator. >rape OT: I don't really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Allot more developers should do this. Halo should have had an entirely new cast after Halo 3. R* actually have the balls to don't give fans what they think they wan't. R* doesn't just take the easy way out by resusing the same old characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 R* chose to do it this way; I don't recall any reason given as to why, but its just what they go by. If I had to guess, I'd say its not all just one universe because then fans would expect to see characters from past games return in future games (SA to V), but what if the voive actors quit, or R* just don't like those characters? Same goes with other game elements such as features, brands/media, etc... Seperating the games into Eras/Universes gives R* the chance to start somewhat fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellboy Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 GTA World A wonder how far off gaming is from having the full of earth detailed for a massive game of GTA. 20 odd hour flights just to do a mission in Australia..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huevos_benedicto_180 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Well, if it's all the same universe, how do you explain the difference between Liberty City in III and Liberty City in IV? Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 R* chose to do it this way; I don't recall any reason given as to why, but its just what they go by. If I had to guess, I'd say its not all just one universe because then fans would expect to see characters from past games return in future games (SA to V), but what if the voive actors quit, or R* just don't like those characters? Same goes with other game elements such as features, brands/media, etc... Seperating the games into Eras/Universes gives R* the chance to start somewhat fresh. The funny thing is........ Fans still expect CJ or Tommy to show up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I guess they are somewhat part of the same universe in terms of having the same brand names, radio personalities and location names. They're just different timelines that feature different characters and more detailed renditions of cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefantome Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 They have one universe, in the end we will discover that Michael's real name is Tommy Vercetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboultr Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 They have one universe, in the end we will discover that Michael's real name is Tommy Vercetti LMAOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevechilds Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 R* chose to do it this way; I don't recall any reason given as to why, but its just what they go by. If I had to guess, I'd say its not all just one universe because then fans would expect to see characters from past games return in future games (SA to V), but what if the voive actors quit, or R* just don't like those characters? Same goes with other game elements such as features, brands/media, etc... Seperating the games into Eras/Universes gives R* the chance to start somewhat fresh. The funny thing is........ Fans still expect CJ or Tommy to show up... Those fans take a special bus to school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisMiller Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) Why do you want the universes of 3D & HD to be the same? Is it so you can kiss CJ's HD textured lips? Edited November 25, 2012 by LewisMiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopia Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Because city's don't grow tenfold in 10 years. I wanna play or see Tommy sometimes in GTA, so I just put on Vice City. Michael is pretty much Tommy if you consider the way the character is developed. That's how Tommy or Claude would end up, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Cannon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Oh lets just continue with the birds eye view shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 R* chose to do it this way; I don't recall any reason given as to why, but its just what they go by. If I had to guess, I'd say its not all just one universe because then fans would expect to see characters from past games return in future games (SA to V), but what if the voive actors quit, or R* just don't like those characters? Same goes with other game elements such as features, brands/media, etc... Seperating the games into Eras/Universes gives R* the chance to start somewhat fresh. The funny thing is........ Fans still expect CJ or Tommy to show up... Those fans take a special bus to school Oh c'mon guys lets be considerate for the casual fans, eh? When GTAV comes up as a conversation at school, I'm one of the only people to know that CJ won't return, while everyone else will be speculating about his return as well as the other two cities. As a group of hardcore GTA players, of course everybody else is gonna seem like a retard to us, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I still don't understand it why people keep calling it HD. The textures have been improving all the way from GTA 1, so every bloody GTA could be a HD for it's time. If anything, it a multipolygon universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckberry04 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I don't get why people are reacting to this thread in such a way.. They're only confirming there own stupidity.. He's just asking why things from VC and SA can't be in IV and V, or even from IV to V. They probably just don't wanna ruin the experience, SA and VC were less detailed, everything became more realistic, so you might not like the "new" CJ or TM anymore in the new universe. Thought I read something about it in an interview. So it's a good question, people here are just morrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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