The Clouds

[AtomicPunk]

Based on the realistic dynamics of the clouds in trailer #1, it looks like R* worked in this area. Next, they need to work on trees. The trees in IV were unacceptable.

[Cloudly]

 

Why do you tell people they know sh*t about clouds, when you don't know them either?

 

The first picture isn't an altocumulus. It's a cirrocumulus. Alto = Mid altitude, Cirro = High altitude.

The third picture isn't a cirrocumulus. (Note: Cumulus are PUFFY clouds)

The fourth picture isn't a cumulonimbus. A cumulonimbus is a thunderstorm cloud, and you even failed to spell it right.

And it goes on.....

 

Oh, but you managed to get the clear skies correctly, congratulations for that.

Wrong again.

 

You aren't honestly trying to tell me that you can detect the exact altitude of those clouds based on the pictures, do you? It could be alto, it could be cirro. To be honest I don't know, I couldn't know unless I could hop in a plane and fly up there. But it also doesn't matter because it's most likely going to be an altocumulus. What do you think "mid-altitude" means? Do you think it's supposed to be at waist level? Just because it's high above your head doesn't mean it has to be "high-level".

 

The third picture is a cirrocumulus. It's a cirrocumulus stratiformis, to be exact. Look it up, dummy.

 

I don't know if the fourth picture is a cumulonimbus or not, but it very well might be. It has a good deal of verticality and seems to get darker near the base, as seen in previous shots of the trailer. Just because it's not raining in the scene provided does not mean it isn't a stormcloud. Obviously, you've never been outside because then you would have known that it is possible to see storm clouds, even before it starts to rain, or before they're directly overhead. A first grader could understand that.

 

So let's recap on your three main arguing points:

1. Cirrus means high up. Clouds that are way above your head must be cirrus, because they are high up.

2. Anything cumuliform must be shaped like this:

or else it isn't a cumulus.

3. If it's not raining, then there are no cumulonimbi. They just don't exist.

 

If you knew anything at all you would know that it's just not possible to classify different cloud types with laser accuracy. Yes, I may have made mistakes about the altitude of some of the clouds, that's to be expected since the screenshots give no clue as to what the weather patterns are like. But it's obvious from the screenshots I posted that R* is serious about their clouds, whereas BF3's clouds are just big white puffy things. Any idiot with half a brain could have seen that that was the point I was trying to make, not show off my magical psychic cloud identification abilities which you seem to believe you have. At what clown cloud college did you get your degree? Do you even have a degree, or did they kick you out of cloud kindergarten for being an utter moron?

[AceHigh11]

Watch out, it's mr. cloud.

[Cloudly]

 

Watch out, it's mr. cloud.

Bitch don't talk if you don't know clouds.

 

 

Don´t compare those sh*tty clouds with the volumetric clouds of the upcoming simulator ArmA III.

ARMA III's clouds look nice, and I'm sure their volumetric cloud simulation is tits, but they still have yet to show me any good stratiforms.

[AceHigh11]

Someone else posted a time-lapse video of RDR sky, so I put that one next to a time-lapse of GTA IV.

 

GTA IV:

 

 

RDR:

 

 

I'm glad they work on the little things.

[faizanali]

 

Don't expect anything like that from an Open World Game, Expect this to happen in the near future with Next Gen Consoles.

[Andreas]

 

Don't expect anything like that from an Open World Game, Expect this to happen in the near future with Next Gen Consoles.

These clouds from Battlefield 3 aren't realtime-rendered and they don't move a bit if I'm not mistaken.

[faizanali]

Don't expect anything like that from an Open World Game, Expect this to happen in the near future with Next Gen Consoles.

These clouds from Battlefield 3 aren't realtime-rendered and they don't move a bit if I'm not mistaken.

Yes they do, They do move eventually and have the soft shadow effect.

[faizanali]

 

 

EDIT: i didn't know i had double posted, BTW ICEnhancer 2.1 also enables this.

Edited November 25, 2012 by faizanali

[Andreas]

I talked about Battlefield 3 and not GTA IV. I know that GTA IV's clouds are moving but I'm not sure about the ones of Battlefield 3 because I heard they don't move in that mission or anything like this. Edited November 25, 2012 by Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian

[faizanali]

I talked about Battlefield 3 and not GTA IV. I know that GTA IV's clouds are moving but I'm not sure about the ones of Battlefield 3 because I heard they don't move in that mission or anything like this.

Single Player?, Idk About single player but they do travel on Multiplayer.

[Death2Drugs]

The clouds are nice looking enough for me, though I agree they can be better.

 

I'm not sure if current gen can handle realistic clouds while having a large free roam map with a ton of activities, etc.

 

Remember though, the clouds are looking a hell lot better than what we had back in 2004.

 

[Cloudly]

The clouds in V are a hell of a lot more realistic than BF3, which doesn't even have any stratiform clouds. Not every cloud is cumuliform. GTA V has shown both stratiform and cumuliform clouds, as well as different subtypes.

 

BF3's clouds give me vertigo. I understand that's also probably why people like them, but it's not every day that you look up in the sky and get that feeling.

 

R* should just release a screenshot where the entire sky is covered with a field of altocumulus stratiformis and just be like f*ck you these clouds are the best clouds.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Cloudly

[Trund]

Why do you tell people they know sh*t about clouds, when you don't know them either?

 

The first picture isn't an altocumulus. It's a cirrocumulus. Alto = Mid altitude, Cirro = High altitude.

The third picture isn't a cirrocumulus. (Note: Cumulus are PUFFY clouds)

The fourth picture isn't a cumulonimbus. A cumulonimbus is a thunderstorm cloud, and you even failed to spell it right.

And it goes on.....

 

Oh, but you managed to get the clear skies correctly, congratulations for that.

Wrong again.

 

You aren't honestly trying to tell me that you can detect the exact altitude of those clouds based on the pictures, do you? It could be alto, it could be cirro. To be honest I don't know, I couldn't know unless I could hop in a plane and fly up there. But it also doesn't matter because it's most likely going to be an altocumulus. What do you think "mid-altitude" means? Do you think it's supposed to be at waist level? Just because it's high above your head doesn't mean it has to be "high-level".

 

The third picture is a cirrocumulus. It's a cirrocumulus stratiformis, to be exact. Look it up, dummy.

 

I don't know if the fourth picture is a cumulonimbus or not, but it very well might be. It has a good deal of verticality and seems to get darker near the base, as seen in previous shots of the trailer. Just because it's not raining in the scene provided does not mean it isn't a stormcloud. Obviously, you've never been outside because then you would have known that it is possible to see storm clouds, even before it starts to rain, or before they're directly overhead. A first grader could understand that.

 

So let's recap on your three main arguing points:

1. Cirrus means high up. Clouds that are way above your head must be cirrus, because they are high up.

2. Anything cumuliform must be shaped like this:

or else it isn't a cumulus.

3. If it's not raining, then there are no cumulonimbi. They just don't exist.

 

If you knew anything at all you would know that it's just not possible to classify different cloud types with laser accuracy. Yes, I may have made mistakes about the altitude of some of the clouds, that's to be expected since the screenshots give no clue as to what the weather patterns are like. But it's obvious from the screenshots I posted that R* is serious about their clouds, whereas BF3's clouds are just big white puffy things. Any idiot with half a brain could have seen that that was the point I was trying to make, not show off my magical psychic cloud identification abilities which you seem to believe you have. At what clown cloud college did you get your degree? Do you even have a degree, or did they kick you out of cloud kindergarten for being an utter moron?

I've never read more bullsh*t in my entire life.

First of all, of course you can't EXACTLY tell at which altitude they are, but what you obviously see is whether a cloud is at 15,000ft or at 30,000ft. Maybe you're blind, or need new glasses, I don't know, all I know is that I can tell the difference, and everyone I know can too, so the difference between alto alto and cirro is pretty obvious.

 

Now to the cirrocumulus, it's still a cirrocumulus, a cirrocumulus stratiformis is just a special type of a cirrocumulus, maybe you should properly Google these things, because even your name on here is "Cloudly" all you talk is pure crap, stop trying to look like a genius when you're just making a fool out of yourself.

 

On and the good old cumulonimbus. I assume you forgot to Google a picture about that one, but hey it's fine really, not really sure what your deal is with the rain anyways, only because it has "nimbus" in the name? Well I've seen many cumulonimbus without actual rain hitting the ground. Obviously these are easier to spot from further away anyways, if you're directly under them you won't even know what's going on most of the time.

 

Funny enough you tell me that I've never been outside, yet you're the one failing to recognize any kind of clouds, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but it's extremely sad.

 

Not sure what you're on about classifying different cloud types, there are only a bunch main cloud types and those are EXTREMELY easy to spot, there might be some details that are different and then they're adding things like "stratiformis" to your "cirrocumulus", to classify those exact types is another thing (okay the altocumulus lenticularis is an exception), but in the end it's still a cirrocumulus as the main cloud, and I wasn't going into details anyways, so not sure what your rant is all about anyways.

 

Well, and since you're asking me where I have my knowledge from: I have to fly through them, I know them pretty well, the question rather is where you have your wannabe knowledge from? Actually, I don't even want to know, the answer's probably devastating.

 

[Cloudly]

 

I've never read more bullsh*t in my entire life.

First of all, of course you can't EXACTLY tell at which altitude they are, but what you obviously see is whether a cloud is at 15,000ft or at 30,000ft. Maybe you're blind, or need new glasses, I don't know, all I know is that I can tell the difference, and everyone I know can too, so the difference between alto alto and cirro is pretty obvious.

 

Now to the cirrocumulus, it's still a cirrocumulus, a cirrocumulus stratiformis is just a special type of a cirrocumulus, maybe you should properly Google these things, because even your name on here is "Cloudly" all you talk is pure crap, stop trying to look like a genius when you're just making a fool out of yourself.

 

On and the good old cumulonimbus. I assume you forgot to Google a picture about that one, but hey it's fine really, not really sure what your deal is with the rain anyways, only because it has "nimbus" in the name? Well I've seen many cumulonimbus without actual rain hitting the ground. Obviously these are easier to spot from further away anyways, if you're directly under them you won't even know what's going on most of the time.

 

Funny enough you tell me that I've never been outside, yet you're the one failing to recognize any kind of clouds, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but it's extremely sad.

 

Not sure what you're on about classifying different cloud types, there are only a bunch main cloud types and those are EXTREMELY easy to spot, there might be some details that are different and then they're adding things like "stratiformis" to your "cirrocumulus", to classify those exact types is another thing (okay the altocumulus lenticularis is an exception), but in the end it's still a cirrocumulus as the main cloud, and I wasn't going into details anyways, so not sure what your rant is all about anyways.

 

Well, and since you're asking me where I have my knowledge from: I have to fly through them, I know them pretty well, the question rather is where you have your wannabe knowledge from? Actually, I don't even want to know, the answer's probably devastating.

You don't know sh*t about clouds, son.

 

btw you were arguing with me that it wasn't a cirrocumulus. Go back and read your own posts.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Cloudly

[RipGore]

I've never read more bullsh*t in my entire life.

First of all, of course you can't EXACTLY tell at which altitude they are, but what you obviously see is whether a cloud is at 15,000ft or at 30,000ft. Maybe you're blind, or need new glasses, I don't know, all I know is that I can tell the difference, and everyone I know can too, so the difference between alto alto and cirro is pretty obvious.

 

Now to the cirrocumulus, it's still a cirrocumulus, a cirrocumulus stratiformis is just a special type of a cirrocumulus, maybe you should properly Google these things, because even your name on here is "Cloudly" all you talk is pure crap, stop trying to look like a genius when you're just making a fool out of yourself.

 

On and the good old cumulonimbus. I assume you forgot to Google a picture about that one, but hey it's fine really, not really sure what your deal is with the rain anyways, only because it has "nimbus" in the name? Well I've seen many cumulonimbus without actual rain hitting the ground. Obviously these are easier to spot from further away anyways, if you're directly under them you won't even know what's going on most of the time.

 

Funny enough you tell me that I've never been outside, yet you're the one failing to recognize any kind of clouds, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but it's extremely sad.

 

Not sure what you're on about classifying different cloud types, there are only a bunch main cloud types and those are EXTREMELY easy to spot, there might be some details that are different and then they're adding things like "stratiformis" to your "cirrocumulus", to classify those exact types is another thing (okay the altocumulus lenticularis is an exception), but in the end it's still a cirrocumulus as the main cloud, and I wasn't going into details anyways, so not sure what your rant is all about anyways.

 

Well, and since you're asking me where I have my knowledge from: I have to fly through them, I know them pretty well, the question rather is where you have your wannabe knowledge from? Actually, I don't even want to know, the answer's probably devastating.

You don't know sh*t about clouds, son.

 

btw you were arguing with me that it wasn't a cirrocumulus. Go back and read your own posts.

I HARDLY read that

[trumpetblast]

forgive for not wading through a *specialist subject*, but -

 

the clouds as seen in trailer 2 (the jeep jump) are plenty impressive enough for me. And from the majority of the earlier posts, I believe RDR is a fairer comparison/yard stick to use for GTA V.

[Sizeway]

actually kinda like the clouds...They looks alright in my book

 

Testing some colors btw

Edited November 25, 2012 by Sizeway

[billy000]

The clouds on GTA V are awesome. No discussion needed. See the part of the 1st trailer with the 3 hikers. And the new screenshots. The clouds are insanely good.

[SiR R.i.P.P.E.R.]

Current gen can handle realistic looking clouds. There are factors that are accounted for when making clouds in a game, though.

If you can't fly up to 40-60k feet where the wispy clouds (cirrus) appear, there's no need to make them in 3D. GTAIV style clouds do the job fine.

For the accessible, lower level clouds (like the skydive scene from Trailer 2), volumetric clouds are the standard so far in most games. RDR had them, Il-2: Birds of prey and HAWX had them to different levels of detail.

BF3's sky graphics are just for show, as their aircraft are hardly used to their RL abilities and potential, so don't judge their flat and good looking skybox. Falcon 4's clouds look better in terms of volume.

[Cloudly]

 

Current gen can handle realistic looking clouds. There are factors that are accounted for when making clouds in a game, though.

If you can't fly up to 40-60k feet where the wispy clouds (cirrus) appear, there's no need to make them in 3D. GTAIV style clouds do the job fine.

For the accessible, lower level clouds (like the skydive scene from Trailer 2), volumetric clouds are the standard so far in most games. RDR had them, Il-2: Birds of prey and HAWX had them to different levels of detail.

BF3's sky graphics are just for show, as their aircraft are hardly used to their RL abilities and potential, so don't judge their flat and good looking skybox. Falcon 4's clouds look better in terms of volume.

Finally. Someone who knows clouds

[Kifflom112]

The clouds from what we've already seen look pretty good. As long as they don't look as horrid as MCLA's clouds and as long as they are slightly better than IV's, I'll be okay. Hell, if we get a weather cheat I'll mostly keep it either clear sky or rainy anyways.

Now what I'm dying to see is rainy weather in this game. Cannot wait to see how that looks, and I hope the clouds won't be a screw up.

[AceHigh11]

The clouds from what we've already seen look pretty good. As long as they don't look as horrid as MCLA's clouds and as long as they are slightly better than IV's, I'll be okay. Hell, if we get a weather cheat I'll mostly keep it either clear sky or rainy anyways.

Now what I'm dying to see is rainy weather in this game. Cannot wait to see how that looks, and I hope the clouds won't be a screw up.

Yes, that and thunderstorms!

[BrijG]

I do hope that they make the clouds look a bit more realistic. Oh and bf3 did look good, but the sky is just a picture. The game doesn't have dynamic weather.

Oh you think you know clouds, huh? You think you know what a realistic cloud looks like? You don't know jack sh*t about clouds homie.

 

 

Clouds.....the only thing that BF3 did right.

 

Volumetric clouds would be a nice addition to V and before anyone says, it is possible on current gen consoles *points to BF3's Alborz Mountains*

shut the f*ck up

Wow take some antihypertensives before your rage causes an early onset of a stroke.

[Kifflom112]

 

I've never read more bullsh*t in my entire life.

First of all, of course you can't EXACTLY tell at which altitude they are, but what you obviously see is whether a cloud is at 15,000ft or at 30,000ft. Maybe you're blind, or need new glasses, I don't know, all I know is that I can tell the difference, and everyone I know can too, so the difference between alto alto and cirro is pretty obvious.

 

Now to the cirrocumulus, it's still a cirrocumulus, a cirrocumulus stratiformis is just a special type of a cirrocumulus, maybe you should properly Google these things, because even your name on here is "Cloudly" all you talk is pure crap, stop trying to look like a genius when you're just making a fool out of yourself.

 

On and the good old cumulonimbus. I assume you forgot to Google a picture about that one, but hey it's fine really, not really sure what your deal is with the rain anyways, only because it has "nimbus" in the name? Well I've seen many cumulonimbus without actual rain hitting the ground. Obviously these are easier to spot from further away anyways, if you're directly under them you won't even know what's going on most of the time.

 

Funny enough you tell me that I've never been outside, yet you're the one failing to recognize any kind of clouds, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but it's extremely sad.

 

Not sure what you're on about classifying different cloud types, there are only a bunch main cloud types and those are EXTREMELY easy to spot, there might be some details that are different and then they're adding things like "stratiformis" to your "cirrocumulus", to classify those exact types is another thing (okay the altocumulus lenticularis is an exception), but in the end it's still a cirrocumulus as the main cloud, and I wasn't going into details anyways, so not sure what your rant is all about anyways.

 

Well, and since you're asking me where I have my knowledge from: I have to fly through them, I know them pretty well, the question rather is where you have your wannabe knowledge from? Actually, I don't even want to know, the answer's probably devastating.

You don't know sh*t about clouds, son.

 

btw you were arguing with me that it wasn't a cirrocumulus. Go back and read your own posts.

Idiot.

And pardon me, but are you Hardly?

The same guy who has some... sexual fetish with- clouds?

[stevechilds]

Clouds.......

 

What abot the ress,grass,pavement cracks jesus christ

[Rajtheindian]

I've never read more bullsh*t in my entire life.

First of all, of course you can't EXACTLY tell at which altitude they are, but what you obviously see is whether a cloud is at 15,000ft or at 30,000ft. Maybe you're blind, or need new glasses, I don't know, all I know is that I can tell the difference, and everyone I know can too, so the difference between alto alto and cirro is pretty obvious.

 

Now to the cirrocumulus, it's still a cirrocumulus, a cirrocumulus stratiformis is just a special type of a cirrocumulus, maybe you should properly Google these things, because even your name on here is "Cloudly" all you talk is pure crap, stop trying to look like a genius when you're just making a fool out of yourself.

 

On and the good old cumulonimbus. I assume you forgot to Google a picture about that one, but hey it's fine really, not really sure what your deal is with the rain anyways, only because it has "nimbus" in the name? Well I've seen many cumulonimbus without actual rain hitting the ground. Obviously these are easier to spot from further away anyways, if you're directly under them you won't even know what's going on most of the time.

 

Funny enough you tell me that I've never been outside, yet you're the one failing to recognize any kind of clouds, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but it's extremely sad.

 

Not sure what you're on about classifying different cloud types, there are only a bunch main cloud types and those are EXTREMELY easy to spot, there might be some details that are different and then they're adding things like "stratiformis" to your "cirrocumulus", to classify those exact types is another thing (okay the altocumulus lenticularis is an exception), but in the end it's still a cirrocumulus as the main cloud, and I wasn't going into details anyways, so not sure what your rant is all about anyways.

 

Well, and since you're asking me where I have my knowledge from: I have to fly through them, I know them pretty well, the question rather is where you have your wannabe knowledge from? Actually, I don't even want to know, the answer's probably devastating.

You don't know sh*t about clouds, son.

 

btw you were arguing with me that it wasn't a cirrocumulus. Go back and read your own posts.

Idiot.

And pardon me, but are you Hardly?

The same guy who has some... sexual fetish with- clouds?

Nothing wrong with getting turned on by clouds

[Rajtheindian]

A penis shaped cloud

[Kifflom112]

 

A penis shaped cloud

No, dude, just no

[RipGore]

I can't believe I started this thread.