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The Pursuit of the Almighty Dollar!


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The Pursuit of the Almighty Dollar

 

from 3 perspectives

 

almighty dollar

noun

money regarded as a major goal in life or as the basis of power: Love of the almighty dollar has ruined many people.

 

So we know that Grand Theft Auto V is going to focus on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a reimagined Southern California. We knew this since November 2nd, 2011. We NOW know that this pursuit is going to be from the perspectives of 3 very different protagonists. Let's take a closer look at each of them and try and determine how different their pursuits will be, and how they will contribute to the overall story.

 

Michael: This is a guy who has lived the life of a criminal, and was very successful at it. So successful, that he got to retire and start a family. But "retirement" is not all it's cracked up to be. His new mundane lifestyle has become a bore. His wife is spending all his money, and his kids are distant. He needs that old rush again. The thrill of taking down a score. In my opinion, I think Michael has more money than we think he does. He just wants the action. The action IS the juice for him... and that could ultimately be his downfall. Or, if Trevor and/or Franklin find out the truth behind his "retirement" aka witness protection. Alot of things to consider with Michael.

 

Franklin: The new kid on the block. The up-and-comer. Franklin is ready to get his feet wet in the criminal underworld. Michael serves as a mentor, and he will teach him everything he knows on how to be a successful criminal. But... Franklin is highly ambitious... so that could be either a good thing, or a bad thing in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. Why could it be a bad thing? Greed. Perhaps at some point in the story, Franklin will have learned enough from Michael to start making his own (ambitious) moves. Maybe Michael will tell Franklin to accept a buy-out if the money is good (something that may have gotten him into witness protection) and Franklin will betray him for the money. Like they say, the apprentice learns from the master. But their final test is to defeat their master.

 

Trevor: The psychopath. The man who is his own voice of reasoning. Why would a guy like Trevor be interested in the pursuit of the almighty dollar? I don't think it's about the pursuit for him... but more about the ride. Trevor is a guy that says, "f*ck you society! I am a motherf*cking criminal, and I don't need to take any sh*t from anybody." He embraces what he is... and he knows he can never change. Trevor is comfortable with who he is... but maybe too comfortable. A guy like him can screw things up fast... because he has no desire to be calculated like Michael, and he really has no ambition like Franklin. He just does things because he can. He simply wants to watch the world burn.

 

As you can see... each of their pursuits of the almighty dollar contradict eachother. They are all in it for different reasons. This game may appear sunny and delightful, but I think Rockstar is going to offer us an even darker story than Grand Theft Auto IV. How do you guys think their stories will contradict eachother, and what sort of plot twists would you like to see?

 

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'Apprentice kills the master' where the heck did you hear that. It's more 'Apprentice LEARNS from the master'

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Franklin betrays Michael.Then Michael with the help of Trevor takes down Franklin!

Good prediction! icon14.gif

 

But what if it turns out that Michael snitched on Trevor in order to get into witness protection? monocle.gif

 

@AuSsIeThUnDeR36: That's true. The apprentice does learn from the master. But their final test is to defeat their master. sly.gif

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Great topic as always, GTA-King smile.gif

 

I think Trevor will be completely loyal to Michael, though he is a 'psychopath' I see him more as a middle-ground character, hes not evil, hes not good, he trusts those who give him a reason to, and kills those who give him a reason to, so I personally don't see Trevor betraying Michael during the game.

 

I can see Franklin getting carried away with the overwhelmimg success and financial benefits, perhaps developing an ego which could put the entire team in jeaprody which Trevor may not take so kindly, which is bound to result in some conflict.

 

Michael, to me, seems like the most 'tragic' character out of the trio, things may happen to his family after he begins becoming close to his wife again, connecting with his kids, finally developing a 'normal' and sustained family, eventually leaving him with nothing to lose, and I can see him becoming a 'heisenberg' kind of character reaching the final quarter of the game, that's just how I see it.

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I totally agree with you about Michael. You say that they all kind of contradict each other. My guess is that Michael is more like Trevor than you might think. The difference between them is that Trevor knows who he is, like you said. He knows what he likes and he doesn't try to hide it. He might be a little frustrated about still living in a trailer, but he can't help himself. In the end, if he would have to choose between having no money but keeping on robbing, or having a lot of money but never be able to rob again, he would choose the first.

 

Michael might be even a little psychopathic, maybe even more so than Trevor. Have you watched The Sopranos? Like Michael, I don't think Tony would ever be able to stop being a criminal. And although he seems pretty calculating at first, he is definitely a psychopath. Rockstar already told us that Michael has anger-issues. Trevor, like Crumplet above me already mentioned, is more of a middle ground guy. He is neither evil nor good. He just does what he does.

 

My guess is that Trevor is going to be surprised by something that Michael does. It will be Michael who's going to do something completely crazy and unjustified, not Trevor, the guy who seems to be the biggest psychopath. It's going to involve Franklin. Trevor and Michael's friendship will be on the line, and Franklin will have to choose a side.

 

Michael might become a sort of Walter White. He always seems the most calculating, but then he does something that totally surprises you, and even repulses you. I don't think Michael will be as bad as Walter, because Walter's transformation is way too severe. But I think he will do something that will repulse the player, and even Trevor. What Franklin's reaction will be I don't know.

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I can see a history repeats itself thing going on - Michael ends up betraying the other 2 after the cops tighten the noose and as a player you have to choose between letting Michael live or gunning him down.

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Great read guys! icon14.gif

 

I really like the idea of Michael being the one to do something drastic. I mean, Trevor just seems like the obvious choice for that. I think Michael will have a really big ego (like Walter White) and he will make a few decisions that will result in a domino effect of disaster. He will mentor Franklin (just like Walter did with Jesse in BB). Eventually, I can see Michael becoming very cocky and arrogant. He's good at what he does... he just hasn't done it in so long. After living his boring, almost meaningless domestic lifestyle and returning to the criminal lifestyle, I imagine he will start feeling superior. Being a criminal again is def. going to feed his ego. I'm just wondering if his family already knew what he is. If not, then that's going to be very interesting.

 

I agree Trevor is the more grounded character. He's the one most comfortable with himself. Who knows... he could actually be the one to save the day. Really don't know what will happen with Franklin. I do know that ambition and money could be either a good thing or a bad thing.

 

I can't wait for this game. inlove.gif

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Great topic as always, GTA-King smile.gif

 

I think Trevor will be completely loyal to Michael, though he is a 'psychopath' I see him more as a middle-ground character, hes not evil, hes not good, he trusts those who give him a reason to, and kills those who give him a reason to, so I personally don't see Trevor betraying Michael during the game.

 

I can see Franklin getting carried away with the overwhelmimg success and financial benefits, perhaps developing an ego which could put the entire team in jeaprody which Trevor may not take so kindly, which is bound to result in some conflict.

 

Michael, to me, seems like the most 'tragic' character out of the trio, things may happen to his family after he begins becoming close to his wife again, connecting with his kids, finally developing a 'normal' and sustained family, eventually leaving him with nothing to lose, and I can see him becoming a 'heisenberg' kind of character reaching the final quarter of the game, that's just how I see it.

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Great read guys! icon14.gif

 

I really like the idea of Michael being the one to do something drastic. I mean, Trevor just seems like the obvious choice for that. I think Michael will have a really big ego (like Walter White) and he will make a few decisions that will result in a domino effect of disaster. He will mentor Franklin (just like Walter did with Jesse in BB). Eventually, I can see Michael becoming very cocky and arrogant. He's good at what he does... he just hasn't done it in so long. After living his boring, almost meaningless domestic lifestyle and returning to the criminal lifestyle, I imagine he will start feeling superior. Being a criminal again is def. going to feed his ego. I'm just wondering if his family already knew what he is. If not, then that's going to be very interesting.

 

I agree Trevor is the more grounded character. He's the one most comfortable with himself. Who knows... he could actually be the one to save the day. Really don't know what will happen with Franklin. I do know that ambition and money could be either a good thing or a bad thing.

 

I can't wait for this game. inlove.gif

Since we are comparing GTA V to Breaking Bad anyway:

 

Michael - a less psychopathic Walter White

Franklin - a more ambitious Jesse Pinkman

Trevor - a more deranged Mike Ehrmantraut

 

In Breaking Bad, Jesse has to choose between Walter and Mike. We could see something similar.

 

In GTA V, your first impression would be that Trevor is more like Walter (except Walter is a lot more calculating than Trevor) and Michael is more like Mike, but maybe it is the other way around.

 

I also don't know what will happen with Franklin. He's hard to read from what we have seen of him/read about him. I guess "ambitious" is the word to use to describe him for now. But that doesn't tell us a lot. I thought Trevor would be a complete psychopath, but from the way he talks in the trailer he just doesn't care. There's a big difference there. Michael's character was the easiest to read, already from the first trailer. He wants to be a family man. Thought he'd be a dad, like all the other dads. But, well, you know how it goes. You fall back to your old life. For me, that makes Michael the best character. I'm not expecting a character arc (more of a slope, a really steep one) like the one from Walter White. But who knows what he's going to do in one of his fits of anger?

 

If Michael is going to be kind of like Walter, I do hope that he won't be a complete and utter asshole. I don't understand how people can keep saying "OMG Skyler's a bitch she has to stop annoying Walt!" after Walter says something like "I forgive you" to Skyler. That must be the most asshole-ish line he has said in the series. Another one I love from season 3, when Walter returns home without Skyler's permission, when Walter Jr. roots for his dad (of course. He has no idea what's really going on), Walt says to him that "it's not Skyler's fault". Hooray for you, manipulating your son.

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I totally agree with you about Michael. You say that they all kind of contradict each other. My guess is that Michael is more like Trevor than you might think. The difference between them is that Trevor knows who he is, like you said. He knows what he likes and he doesn't try to hide it. He might be a little frustrated about still living in a trailer, but he can't help himself. In the end, if he would have to choose between having no money but keeping on robbing, or having a lot of money but never be able to rob again, he would choose the first.

 

Michael might be even a little psychopathic, maybe even more so than Trevor. Have you watched The Sopranos? Like Michael, I don't think Tony would ever be able to stop being a criminal. And although he seems pretty calculating at first, he is definitely a psychopath. Rockstar already told us that Michael has anger-issues. Trevor, like Crumplet above me already mentioned, is more of a middle ground guy. He is neither evil nor good. He just does what he does.

 

My guess is that Trevor is going to be surprised by something that Michael does. It will be Michael who's going to do something completely crazy and unjustified, not Trevor, the guy who seems to be the biggest psychopath. It's going to involve Franklin. Trevor and Michael's friendship will be on the line, and Franklin will have to choose a side.

 

Michael might become a sort of Walter White. He always seems the most calculating, but then he does something that totally surprises you, and even repulses you. I don't think Michael will be as bad as Walter, because Walter's transformation is way too severe. But I think he will do something that will repulse the player, and even Trevor. What Franklin's reaction will be I don't know.

agree with this post. I think there will also be many elements from the movie heat in the game.

 

I think Michael is partly based on Neil Mccaully from heat (robert deniro)

In the movie heat, Neil Mccaully is also unable to ever stop being a criminal and is the one who does drastic things.

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Michael's son seems to have something to do with the story. My guess is that Michael's son accidentally messes the entire operation up, because maybe the gang he is associated with has a major gripe with Franklin, who is associated with a rival gang, inadvertently screwing everything up with Michael and Trevor, leading to Franklin or Franklin's gang killing Michael's son. This would obviously severely fray the relationship with Franklin, maybe even severing it. With the enlisted help of Trevor, Michael kills either Franklin or someone very close to him (his wife/girlfriend?).

 

While Michael, Trevor, and Franklin are together pursuing the almighty dollar, everyone else is as well, Michael's son's gang included. This, in turn, causes the group to implode, leaving everyone involved permanently scarred, physically and/or mentally.

 

This is my half-assed version of what could happen, but I do honestly believe that Michael's son could have a pivotal part in this story.

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"His flaws are certainly his large ego, an inability to control his temper, and his willingness to make large moral compromises."

 

This was how Dan Houser described Michael in the IGN interview, made me think it's gonna be Michael that might screw them over/do something to put them all in peril. Also in the second trailer I thought the song choice was wonderful, all about living a double life and how sooner of later it's gonna catch up with you, funny how the lyrics kick in after Michael's little monologue! However I can totally see where OP is coming from with Franklin having to defeat his master. Incorporating that into my view of the story could be that he has to kill him or run him out of town because of his atrocious behaviour.

 

@LBYN - Never even thought about his son being pivotal in the story, you've got me thinking now!!

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"His flaws are certainly his large ego, an inability to control his temper, and his willingness to make large moral compromises."

 

This was how Dan Houser described Michael in the IGN interview, made me think it's gonna be Michael that might screw them over/do something to put them all in peril. Also in the second trailer I thought the song choice was wonderful, all about living a double life and how sooner of later it's gonna catch up with you, funny how the lyrics kick in after Michael's little monologue! However I can totally see where OP is coming from with Franklin having to defeat his master. Incorporating that into my view of the story could be that he has to kill him or run him out of town because of his atrocious behaviour.

 

@LBYN - Never even thought about his son being pivotal in the story, you've got me thinking now!!

BINGO..That quote from houser is the key to which characer will turn on someone. If Michael has a temper, You might see him killing One of the two protags, Because if they mess with his family, theyre dead

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Franklin betrays Michael.Then Michael with the help of Trevor takes down Franklin!

No, it's not going to happen. The three protagonists are bound, and R* is not one to have player characters betray other player characters. But then again, we've never seen this, and R* did make Lance turn on us... Hmm... Well sh*t, I don't know. It could happen.

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It seems like a repeat of IV's Three Leaf Clover mission, which R* keep talking about in GTA V press releases. I want a NEW game, not a new location with the same plot.

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BINGO..That quote from houser is the key to which characer will turn on someone. If Michael has a temper, You might see him killing One of the two protags, Because if they mess with his family, theyre dead

That was how he described Michael but I didn't really think of it from the point you're putting across, involving his family etc, if that is the road they go down I think it has to be Franklin that causes trouble(master/pupil culmination). I think it would probably be too obvious for Trevor to do something to harm Michael UNLESS, as others have mentioned throughout the forum, Michael's deal with FIB had something to do with Trevor, perhaps harming his crank empire? When we first start playing the game maybe we are helping Trevor reestablish control? During the course of the story Trevor finds out Michael turned on him in the past and wants revenge? I dunno, there are so many possibilities with the 3 protag/interwoven stories!!

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BINGO..That quote from houser is the key to which characer will turn on someone. If Michael has a temper, You might see him killing One of the two protags, Because if they mess with his family, theyre dead

That was how he described Michael but I didn't really think of it from the point you're putting across, involving his family etc, if that is the road they go down I think it has to be Franklin that causes trouble(master/pupil culmination). I think it would probably be too obvious for Trevor to do something to harm Michael UNLESS, as others have mentioned throughout the forum, Michael's deal with FIB had something to do with Trevor, perhaps harming his crank empire? When we first start playing the game maybe we are helping Trevor reestablish control? During the course of the story Trevor finds out Michael turned on him in the past and wants revenge? I dunno, there are so many possibilities with the 3 protag/interwoven stories!!

yeah plausable.. I just really hope we dont lose any characters. I want to play as all of themfor the whole thing

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It seems like a repeat of IV's Three Leaf Clover mission, which R* keep talking about in GTA V press releases. I want a NEW game, not a new location with the same plot.

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How is this the same plot? Niko is an immigrant. He robbed ONE bank, but only as a favor. In fact, almost every mission in GTA IV was a favor. And that's what kind of sucked about the story in my opinion. I don't feel motivated to rob a bank with Niko because HE isn't motivated. Well, he is, of course, but not for the reasons you expect.

 

Michael, Franklin and Trevor have a lot more motivations. It's money, of course, "the pursuit of the almighty dollar". It's also boredom. It's ambition. Every character has it's own motivation and they even have more than one motivation, like Michael.

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Each protagonist has different traits. It's almost guaranteed the story will offer some plot twists.

 

I really like the idea of Michael snitching on Trevor... and him eventually finding out. That would certainly be an interesting plot twist. icon14.gif

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Each protagonist has different traits. It's almost guaranteed the story will offer some plot twists.

 

I really like the idea of Michael snitching on Trevor... and him eventually finding out. That would certainly be an interesting plot twist. icon14.gif

Thanks mate! Do you not think it will be a bit obvious if Trevor turns on the others though? R* are talking about how Trevor is a psycho and indulges in his baser instincts etc I think it would be a bit more unconventional if Franklin turns on Michael or Michael on Franklin/Trevor for whatever reason. Been thinking about what LBYN wrote earlier about Michael's son playing a pivotal role and perhaps Michael does something awful to James/Jimmy and Franklin takes his side? For some reason I can't get it out of my head that if any of the three protags are going to betray the others, it's gonna be Michael.

 

I remember reading in the GI article that there was going to be a smaller cast, initially I thought this would be a bad thing but the more I think about a smaller cast, more time with them to develop bonds etc I'm beginning to think of all kinds of twists and turns the plot could take!

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^ Yeah, it just seems too obvious for Trevor to be the traitor. Michael is the one that has the most to lose, so therefore he is the one that will make drastic choices. I honestly think Trevor is loyal to those who are loyal to him. And Franklin is just trying to find a way to be successful as a criminal. I expect Michael and Franklin to have a tight bond. Michael deciding to mentor Franklin just goes to show how big his ego is. Maybe not ego, but he def. wants to pass his criminal knowledge to someone. The only thing that concerns me about Franklin is his ambition. Greed could swallow him whole.

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BINGO..That quote from houser is the key to which characer will turn on someone. If Michael has a temper, You might see him killing One of the two protags, Because if they mess with his family, theyre dead

That was how he described Michael but I didn't really think of it from the point you're putting across, involving his family etc, if that is the road they go down I think it has to be Franklin that causes trouble(master/pupil culmination). I think it would probably be too obvious for Trevor to do something to harm Michael UNLESS, as others have mentioned throughout the forum, Michael's deal with FIB had something to do with Trevor, perhaps harming his crank empire? When we first start playing the game maybe we are helping Trevor reestablish control? During the course of the story Trevor finds out Michael turned on him in the past and wants revenge? I dunno, there are so many possibilities with the 3 protag/interwoven stories!!

That would be heartbreaking if the FIB made you kill Trevor it would be a bit like how John had to kill Dutch for the government. There will definitely be a betrayal between the 3 hell they could take it a step further and actually make the player control how you betray the other two.

 

Here's a scenario of how they could do it. Michael is on his way to take out Trevor, Trevor gets a call from someone that something bad is about to happen once the player arrives at Trevor's location the player is prompted to either take control of Michael or Trevor, whoever you control is the person who lives.

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You know what i think? I can see Lamar and other gangbangers affiliated with Franklin trying to push Franklin to turn on Michael at one point, when they realise Michael is actually 'a big dog' who would be very interesting to rob, or blackmail or whatever. I think these gangsters cannot fight the urge to try and rob him blind once they see how rich he is ánd how close he is with Franklin. Of course Franklin refuses but there might come a moment when he is open to the idea... maybe he gets betrayed or cannot stomach the fact Michael is in Witness Protection, basically meaning he's a big ol' snitch. I think this is quite plausible.

 

Where does Trevor fit in all this? Well it's between Michael and Franklin and i don't necessarily see him taking sides... i don't think he cares thát much about earning money but he's not 100% careless either. He knows his lifestyle is costly (drug use and God knows what else he thrives on) and he will do everything to keep that going. Meh, i'm not sure about Trevor yet... smile.gif

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@Gregers08: That's exactly how I think it could go down as well. I mean, if you think about it... R* said that once you switch between characters, you will see what they do when your not playing as them. That just can't go on forever, and by forever I mean after the main story is completed.

 

I honestly think there will be 1 protagonist standing by the end, and just like how Gregers08 described it, we will have to choose who lives and dies. I see this as a huge difference to Red Dead Redemption's ending. At the end of RDR, John dies, who we've developed a relationship with... then we are left to play as his son, who we really have no relationship with.. In GTA V, we will develop a relationship with all 3 protagonists, and in the end, we will have to decide who lives. That would certainly be a dramatic way to end it, in my opinion.

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I honestly think Trevor is loyal to those who are loyal to him.

 

I absolutely agree with this, hate the way some people are trying to infer that Trevor is going to be a dick to Franklin for whatever reason. I just think he is going to banter with him for a bit then Franklin will do something to earn his acceptance/trust or it might happen over time. Just can't see Trevor killing either of them unless they do something to screw him over. Trevor hopefully goes crazy in shootouts and is a real nutcase, probably a shoot first, ask questions later kinda guy!

 

 

The only thing that concerns me about Franklin is his ambition. Greed could swallow him whole.

 

I hadn't really thought about that too much, in the articles I felt like Franklin was the one who got the least focus but after the trailer it certainly enforced his ambition, possibility that it will cause trouble in paradise! Also think you could be on to something with Michael's ego motivation.

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@Gregers08 That sounds very plausible, like Derrick and Francis or PBX and Dwayne but 100 times worse!!! Would be a great way to get immersed in the game.

 

@Johnny Playert I think this a brilliant idea, maybe because R* said there's going to be a smaller cast all the secondary characters are going to be very influential, like Roman but more so.

 

@GTA-King I hated the end of RDR, having to play as that wee sh*t Jack! When I played it through a second time I didn't do the very last few missions and just tried to complete what I could with John lol. Again the idea of having to personally choose who lives and dies would definitely be a way to really involve the player.

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any way i hope all 3 live in the end but mayby franks frends or some mob boss that hired the 3. betrys them and dies in the end like in gta4 tbogt where ray bulgeryan hires luis to do some of his dirty work for him and then betrys luis. and in the end he kills rays goons and then kills ray and lives. but i dont know how its all gonna end any way we will just have to see and find out wen were playing the game. for now only time will tell.

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This is a great movie to get you hyped up for Grand Theft Auto V's story. It's about the struggle of 3 NY cops. The character development is fantastic, so is the story. Not to mention the explosive finale! If Michael, Trevor and Franklin are built up just like the protagonists in this movie, than that would be pretty amazing. If we can actually develop a relationship with each of them, and then have something dramatic happen at the end, then R* has truly mastered great storytelling.

 

The pursuit of the almighty dollar, from the perspectives of 3 very different criminals, is what I'm most excited to see.

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