MosquitoSmasher Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I just read the new interview with Dan Houser from that Italian site. I wonder about something...maybe i'm the only one. Michael clearly is living the 'good life' in terms of having nothing to complain about when it comes to finances and stuff, as you can see by his car and huge mansion. His family life on the other hand....is another story. But he gets back into the life of crime. If i read it right in the translation of the interview, he loses all his money and pretty much needs to go back to that life. Has it been explained anywhere how he lost it all? Cause in the trailer we can see him not having much worries and chilling and what not. Gonna be interesting to see what goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING2dor Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Yess, I can see things getting very interesting with Mike.. Maybe his house is getting Foreclosed and its all just appearances... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuPz0r Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 When a rich man loses his money he doesn't automatically lose everything. Anyway a richman going bankrupt is no way near the same as a normal working class person going bankrupt. Different leagues, different perspective if broke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle1972 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 his wife is spending it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chm0 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 why his long time friend trevor dress like a hobo, what he did with his part of the heists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosquitoSmasher Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 his wife is spending it all LOL if that actually turns out to be the reason, if so...i will be slapping her silly, if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androyed Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I don't think he's losing the money at all. He is just bored, is all. When you've lived a life of crime it is very hard to go to a normal life. Certainly if the only thing your wife likes about you is your money, and you have no connection whatsoever with your kids. Michael doesn't feel comfortable in his big house. He feels unfulfilled. He doesn't know how to relax like this. He has always robbed banks or commited other crimes in his life. It is not uncommon for retired "gangsters" to feel this way. Most of them fall back into their old life again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral_City Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 why his long time friend trevor dress like a hobo, what he did with his part of the heists I lol'd. Mind blown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degrees Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) why his long time friend trevor dress like a hobo, what he did with his part of the heists Meth On topic I would like to find out while I'm playing just knowing a little bit of their lifes is good. I know enough about Michael and Trevor I just need to know more about Franklin though. Edited November 19, 2012 by Degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0eladn Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 his wife is spending it all LOL if that actually turns out to be the reason, if so...i will be slapping her silly, if possible. From what i remember that is the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosquitoSmasher Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I don't think he's losing the money at all. He is just bored, is all. When you've lived a life of crime it is very hard to go to a normal life. Certainly if the only thing your wife likes about you is your money, and you have no connection whatsoever with your kids. Michael doesn't feel comfortable in his big house. He feels unfulfilled. He doesn't know how to relax like this. He has always robbed banks or commited other crimes in his life. It is not uncommon for retired "gangsters" to feel this way. Most of them fall back into their old life again. Well.... ScorpDaMonk's translation from the news forum. How did you get the idea of the three protagonists? It was difficult to delineate their personalities? What is your favorite? We started with Michael. It is the old man, about 40, married with two children. He made money, has reached the pinnacle of success and then lost everything again be drawn into the circle of the theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck R. Wood Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Due to the fact that R* claimed that V world is highly connected to real life, I strongly believe that Michael lost his money in a pyramid scheme of some sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androyed Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I don't think he's losing the money at all. He is just bored, is all. When you've lived a life of crime it is very hard to go to a normal life. Certainly if the only thing your wife likes about you is your money, and you have no connection whatsoever with your kids. Michael doesn't feel comfortable in his big house. He feels unfulfilled. He doesn't know how to relax like this. He has always robbed banks or commited other crimes in his life. It is not uncommon for retired "gangsters" to feel this way. Most of them fall back into their old life again. Well.... ScorpDaMonk's translation from the news forum. How did you get the idea of the three protagonists? It was difficult to delineate their personalities? What is your favorite? We started with Michael. It is the old man, about 40, married with two children. He made money, has reached the pinnacle of success and then lost everything again be drawn into the circle of the theft. Link? I believe you, I'm just curious. I hope it will be a combination of both. I actually quite like my idea of Michael falling back because he wants to feel the thrill again. But who am I to tell R* what to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurrikane Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I think that Michael's story with his family being involved in the game more than we have seen in the past is going to be a very interesting story, one that us having feelings for him and his loved ones. With the story that R* has written I am sure it will be one of happiness, heartbreak, and sadness, one of those great stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahmatic Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I dont think Michael will ever have a fully believable story about why hes decided to kill hundreds of people and rob various places, but I dont pay attention to the story line too much, at least, not since San Andreas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosquitoSmasher Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) I dont think Michael will ever have a fully believable story about why hes decided to kill hundreds of people and rob various places, but I dont pay attention to the story line too much, at least, not since San Andreas. Who's to say he really has murdered alot of people? You can rob banks without killing an innocent or at least doing your best to avoid that, i'm sure. It's all up to the player to decide what he does...remember? . It's as believeable as you make it. I know what you mean though, but i don't know if he's as big a murderer as you say. But as someone else here said. It looks like he's living a good life, but no doubt he's missing the excitement and thrill of doing heists, the adrenaline and all that it gives him. That would be a good enough reason to go back to it. @Androyed http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1061966810 Edited November 19, 2012 by MosquitoSmasher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddFool Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 i think that the FIB force him to go back into that life maybe they realize that he didnt deserve the break they gave him and they kidnap his family similar to John Marston's story (RDR) and the FIB hold them ransom or some sh*t or maybe the people he screwed over cus he obviously screwed someone over to go into witness protection kidnap his family and they hold them for ransom thus making Michael pull heists he didnt necessarily have to lose his mansion and possessions to go into the bank robbing business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I think he struck a deal similiar to the one Niko did with UNLV Paper and with family problems and money running low he goes back into a life of crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZombie Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Everyone In this thread is a ex gangster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck R. Wood Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Michael reminds me of Chili Palmer... What if he lost a big chunk of money in an Hollywood fiasco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdiggerswe Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) I don't think he's losing the money at all. He is just bored, is all. When you've lived a life of crime it is very hard to go to a normal life. Certainly if the only thing your wife likes about you is your money, and you have no connection whatsoever with your kids. Michael doesn't feel comfortable in his big house. He feels unfulfilled. He doesn't know how to relax like this. He has always robbed banks or commited other crimes in his life. It is not uncommon for retired "gangsters" to feel this way. Most of them fall back into their old life again. Exactly, this seems like the most accurate theory (from our information, currently) He reminds me of Michael from Heat, who, despite his family life, reconciles with his associates in his last heist. Perhaps for Michael (in V), "the action is the juice", not the demand of money Edited November 20, 2012 by deathdiggerswe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androyed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I don't think he's losing the money at all. He is just bored, is all. When you've lived a life of crime it is very hard to go to a normal life. Certainly if the only thing your wife likes about you is your money, and you have no connection whatsoever with your kids. Michael doesn't feel comfortable in his big house. He feels unfulfilled. He doesn't know how to relax like this. He has always robbed banks or commited other crimes in his life. It is not uncommon for retired "gangsters" to feel this way. Most of them fall back into their old life again. Exactly, this seems like the most accurate theory (from our information, currently) He reminds me of Michael from Heat, who, despite his family life, reconciles with his associates in his last heist. Perhaps for Michael (in V), "the action is the juice", not the demand of money I don't know who came up with the idea that Michael goes back for the money. But this quote from Dan Houser says it all I think: "Michael, to me, is... Who is he? I know who he is, I'm just trying to... He's the person who is trying to ignore some rather large mistakes that they have made. The person who's trying to forget about certain practical but still selfish decisions that they took. He's a man, also, obsessed by images and by appearances and who, when the world doesn't live up to those images and appearances, doesn't know what to do. He just retreats into his head. What he also is, when we started out... What he kind of evolved into as we began thinking about him and developing him... He was the first character we came up with. He began as the idea of, what happens to a regular GTA protagonist after they retire? Then you think, what would make him retire? He's a man with a big ego and plenty of good values and plenty of bad values. "One of the advantages of the three-character system is you can have characters who, if they were the only protagonist, would be far too flawed for you to find appealing. With other equally flawed protagonists, but flawed in different ways, I think it gets more understandable. His flaws are certainly his large ego, an inability to control his temper, and his willingness to make large moral compromises. To me, that's a very interesting character. A guy who's in his mid-40s and on the cusp of middle age who doesn't know what to do, but made a bunch of money and does not know what to do with it. He's theoretically won, but the spoils of victory aren't necessarily what he imagined. For us that's a very interesting character, unlike what we've done in the past or what we've seen in much entertainment in general, let alone any video games. That was interesting." Link: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/13/gra...v-meet-the-cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acehilm Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 His wife and kids taking lots of cash, can't pay bills and whatever. Real estates threatening to kick him out of his house, but Michael's daughters boyfriend, 'Brad', is a repo man and tells the real estate to go elsewhere. Brad is always hanging with his friend, "Franklin" who is also a repo man. Everything hits rock bottom for the repo company after rumours of car theft is heard and bussiness dulls down. Franklin continues to steal and sell cars illegally, and Mike hears about it through Brad. Michael somehow comes in contact with Trevor, and is surprised about him being in the witness protection program. That's how I think it would start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZombie Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I believe he runs into Franklin first at the beach. And either something happens there. He dumps his friend lamar and Micheal decisdes to get back to some action and help him. Or his son gets involved with that boat some how as franklin is trying to repo it, his son calls Micheal for help. character switch. Drive to save your son from being a pancake. They get together and he call trevor to help him on these following robberies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDucky Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 why his long time friend trevor dress like a hobo, what he did with his part of the heists drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisonermonkeys Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I don't know who came up with the idea that Michael goes back for the money. Maybe the money is just the excuse he's been looking for. He's clearly unhappy with his family life, and he is said to have brokered a unique deal with the FIB that allows him to live in luxury upon retirement. That leads me to believe that he may not have been an entirely willing participant in the deal he got, and that the feds had to go to extreme lengths to get the deal they wanted, probably his testimony agaisnt someone very powerful and dangerous (hopefully not your stereotypical mobster or crooked politician). So when the opportunity to get back into the game presents itself, he pounces on it. I'm curious as to how Trevor fits into all of this. Typically, witness protection programmes don't allow you to have any contact with your former life. The US Marshalls (the FBI don't run these programmes) try and find a place for you where you have no ties so that there is no danger that you will encounter someone who wants you dead, or someone who might inadvertently blow your cover. And Michael's dialogue in the trailer makes it pretty clear that he moved to Los Santos. The FIB would have to know that Trevor was there, and would normally move him. I'm betting that Michael cut a deal to save Trevor, but because of his sociopathic tendencies and/or drug abuse, it was nowhere near as good as Michael's. If I were writing GTA V, I'd have Michael working as part of a notorious crew of professional bank robbers that had hit several high-end locations across the country, raising the attention of the FIB. Things went sideways when Trevor shot and killed someone during a heist. Michael, meanwhile, was the getaway driver. He never entered the bank, never raised a weapon, never made any demands. However, because Trevor shot and killed someone during the commission of a crime, and because Michael was a part of that crime, Michael could therefore be held accountable for the death (there was a story a while ago about a home invasion that ended with the home owner shooting and killing one of the intruders in self-defence; because the death happened during the commission of a crime, the surviving intruder could have been charged with murder). At this point, the Feds pretty much had his balls in a vice, because the roberry occured in a death penalty state, and they made it pretty clear to Michael that if he refused their offer of testimony and immunity from prosecution, he'd get the needle. Michael, however, was a pretty smart guy, and reasoned out what the FIB wanted from him and why they were pushing so hard: they wanted his employer. He then used that knowledge - and some additional stuff on the subject that the FIB didn't have - to cut a better deal for hismelf, one that would allow him to live off the proceeds of his crimes and spare his friend from the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Did i really just read: "old man, about 40" 40 is ten years older than Niko. 40 is not that old! anything past 55 i would say is "old" Anyway OT: it's because of his wife, she's a typical golddigger from what i've read. Also his daughter, she's probably a "daddy gave me a credit card, like whatever" girl, spoilt and shallow. His son is probably a stuck up rich boy wannabe gangsta too so he probably spends lots on sh*t. Plus there's the recession - the cost of food, gas, water, electricity, fuel, is all on the rise, then there's inflation where the currency loses it's value, so prices rise, THEN there's the limited pool of money he'll have. He has $10M in the bank. his wife/kids eat through £1M a year inc bills. Now the bills rise, so that's 1.5M. then add the rising tax and price of shopping, so that'd go upto about 2/3M, so his money will run out quicker. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unikunjerry Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I just read the new interview with Dan Houser from that Italian site. I wonder about something...maybe i'm the only one. Michael clearly is living the 'good life' in terms of having nothing to complain about when it comes to finances and stuff, as you can see by his car and huge mansion. His family life on the other hand....is another story. But he gets back into the life of crime. If i read it right in the translation of the interview, he loses all his money and pretty much needs to go back to that life. Has it been explained anywhere how he lost it all? Cause in the trailer we can see him not having much worries and chilling and what not. Gonna be interesting to see what goes wrong. his wife spends all of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyspoid Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Those "practical" but "selfish" mistakes could still be involved in the game. Perhaps Michael was a rat, who gave up his old heist buddy, Trevor. Trevor went to jail, and didn't get any of the money, while Michael was spared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPhilly Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 his wife is spending it all That's it. She runs off with his credit card to the local mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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