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HD Universe Question


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I know this isn't particularly GTA V-related but I've wondered something about the classification of "eras" in the GTA series. Many have assumed that each numbered GTA represents a new era/timeline though this obviously isn't the case with GTA V considering it's in the same timeline as GTA IV. Rockstar prefers to classify eras by console generation, as there has of course been the 2D Universe (GTA 1, GTA London 1969/61, GTA 2), the 3D Universe (GTA III, GTA VC, GTA SA, GTA Advance, GTA LCS, GTA VCS) and the HD Universe (GTA IV, GTA CW, GTA EFLC, GTA V). However, what will the next era be called on next-gen consoles? Technically it'll still be HD but what could Rockstar call it instead? That is one thing that's always confused me about this era classification, as well as GTA Advance not actually being in 3D (but set within the 3D Universe timeline) and Chinatown Wars not really being HD (unless the iPad version counts).

 

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Since it's technically still HD (Next gen consoles), maybe they will keep the HD era going throughout the next gen? Idk, that seems unlikely, good question though.

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in my opinion, instead of bringing back unforgettable characters, they should make new unforgettable characters. Most of IV's characters were forgettable, unfortunately.

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I personally think it is a shame they don't put HD-era und III-era games in relation to each other. It just makes no sense to me. I would love seeing some cool characters from GTA:SA back in GTA V, hearing characters telling stories about some things that happened during the GTA:SA-story, or keep some famous parts of the map (Grove Street). Or keeping Ballas and Grove Street gangs in the game. Things like that. But that's just me. In my optinion the games who are set in the same area should have a relation to each other, not like the old characters didn't even exist. Don't like that idea.

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in my opinion, instead of bringing back unforgettable characters, they should make new unforgettable characters. Most of IV's characters were forgettable, unfortunately.

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I personally think it is a shame they don't put HD-era und III-era games in relation to each other. It just makes no sense to me. I would love seeing some cool characters from GTA:SA back in GTA V, hearing characters telling stories about some things that happened during the GTA:SA-story, or keep some famous parts of the map (Grove Street). Or keeping Ballas and Grove Street gangs in the game. Things like that. But that's just me. In my optinion the games who are set in the same area should have a relation to each other, not like the old characters didn't even exist. Don't like that idea.

That is what keeps GTA fresh. Not only do we have a new protagonist for every game, every generation we get a whole new cast of characters.

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Of course it should be fresh, I agree with you. But you can keep the game completely new & fresh AND bring back some things from the first game at the same time. That's not impossible. Small things like Ballas/Grove Street Families, or some random characters who appeared in the old game. Just to relate the games to each other in some way. That doesn't mean an old ass CJ should appear in GTA V, I think they should just relate the games.

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So.. why CJ appears in GTA IV as Easter Egg on an advert!

Take it as his last existence, There wont be a reference to him AT ALL in V sleepy.gif

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So.. why CJ appears in GTA IV as Easter Egg on an advert!

That was never confirmed to be him

He didn't exist as a 3d character in IV

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The SDHD (Super Duper High Def) Era. tounge2.gif

I see your SDHD and I raise you MDDHD (MegaDuperDoubleHighDefVision) smile.gif

 

OT: What about OG Loc? He potentially exists in 1D audio from the GTA:SA days... maybe no 3D return but 1D? Unlikely, I know, just being picky biggrin.gif

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I personally think it is a shame they don't put HD-era und III-era games in relation to each other. It just makes no sense to me. I would love seeing some cool characters from GTA:SA back in GTA V, hearing characters telling stories about some things that happened during the GTA:SA-story, or keep some famous parts of the map (Grove Street). Or keeping Ballas and Grove Street gangs in the game. Things like that. But that's just me. In my optinion the games who are set in the same area should have a relation to each other, not like the old characters didn't even exist. Don't like that idea.

Well then make your own game and shut the f*ck up !

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I'm convinced a very subtle grove street area will exist in GTA V

 

something to give hardcore fans a quarter chub

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I doubt they will start a whole other universe with the next generation of consoles. It's just too short, and they haven't done the other cities yet - or even created new ones.

 

Also, personally I just ignore the handheld games like Chinatown Wars and GTA Advanced. They don't really have that much to do with the main series and current universe, they're more of a spin-off if anything.

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If GTAV is does become a cross gen game the next era could be called the Multiple Era for Multiple protagonists and the vast improvements to the multiplayer section of V and possibly future titles.

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Yeah, I think V should've been called something else like San Andreas stories or Los Santos Episodes, cause a numbered GTA should always be in Liberty City, and starts a new Era as you said.

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The next GTA is in the 4k Ultra HD universe. Bet on that. tounge2.gif Nothing that can go higher for the next generation console to come.
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The SOPBHDHD universe. (Superbly Orgasmic, Partly Bi-curious and Highly Definitive High Definition).

 

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The 3D Era was when GTA was new to games using triangles to render models and such. With each generation of consoles, the amount of triangles in models have increased - but now the difference isn't that noticeable. The HD Era kicked off with this high-polycount jump, rendering it as "high-definition."

 

This, and the fact that Rockstar is recreating their old cities in the way they were meant to be is why I believe the HD Era is their final reboot. There's simply no other reason to reboot the series again. They can rebuild and expand the world they have created. I'm positive that once they remake San Fierro, Las Venturas, and Vice City, we'll still be in the same universe and get to see new cities. Like maybe a reimagining of Boston, or Washignton DC.

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The 3D Era was when GTA was new to games using triangles to render models and such. With each generation of consoles, the amount of triangles in models have increased - but now the difference isn't that noticeable. The HD Era kicked off with this high-polycount jump, rendering it as "high-definition."

 

This, and the fact that Rockstar is recreating their old cities in the way they were meant to be is why I believe the HD Era is their final reboot. There's simply no other reason to reboot the series again. They can rebuild and expand the world they have created. I'm positive that once they remake San Fierro, Las Venturas, and Vice City, we'll still be in the same universe and get to see new cities. Like maybe a reimagining of Boston, or Washignton DC.

After HD instead of going with photo realism I want them to go with something stylish maybe like Cel era GTA's or simply call it the Art Era and have the games actually resemble the artwork for the games.

 

With this change they can rebuild the cities again but this time very losely basing them on the actual cities, a good way to describe it is if they made caricatures of all the main cities in the GTA world and focused more on making the cities a place where crazy gameplay scenarios could take place.

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The 3D Era was when GTA was new to games using triangles to render models and such. With each generation of consoles, the amount of triangles in models have increased - but now the difference isn't that noticeable. The HD Era kicked off with this high-polycount jump, rendering it as "high-definition."

 

This, and the fact that Rockstar is recreating their old cities in the way they were meant to be is why I believe the HD Era is their final reboot. There's simply no other reason to reboot the series again. They can rebuild and expand the world they have created. I'm positive that once they remake San Fierro, Las Venturas, and Vice City, we'll still be in the same universe and get to see new cities. Like maybe a reimagining of Boston, or Washignton DC.

After HD instead of going with photo realism I want them to go with something stylish maybe like Cel era GTA's or simply call it the Art Era and have the games actually resemble the artwork for the games.

 

With this change they can rebuild the cities again but this time very losely basing them on the actual cities, a good way to describe it is if they made caricatures of all the main cities in the GTA world and focused more on making the cities a place where crazy gameplay scenarios could take place.

I'm positive that with some modding, someone could alter the shaders, or even an injector or something to celshade and other things. Obviously it's not the same, but it doesn't take much to get that "toon render" in Blender, most of it's the lighting too.

 

I honestly don't think we'll see photorealistic games for a long time, and sadly, I doubt GTA will live to see those days.

 

EDIT: Haha, a quick search on Google shows that there are some mods that apply cell-shading. I'm sure you can get other effects, and if someone altered the timecyc well-enough, and with the right brightness and contrast settings, you can resemble the artwork very closely.

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Yeah, I think V should've been called something else like San Andreas stories or Los Santos Episodes, cause a numbered GTA should always be in Liberty City, and starts a new Era as you said.

I'm not sure, I'd actually hate to see them do Liberty city again, it just feels worn out. I think they should start with Vice City, since we haven't visited it again yet. I can't see them doing San Fierro, not enough going on, unless they include other cities of the bay area and surrounding landscape. I can see them doing LV again, but again, the problem arises with the fact that there's not much to do. I know it may sound strange, but I can see them visiting London and the surrounding area, it's really unlike any other city visited, it would have a very different feel. With that said, they're really gonna have to do more than just revisit LC every time they advance generations. The one thing I can't see them doing is going into the future, at least not too far where the technology is unpredictable. Who know, maybe they'll create competition with Watch Dogs(though i doubt it, they're two very different games).

Also, the next stage is GTA as a live reality TV show in Russia, but people can dictate what happens via app...

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The SOPBHDHD universe. (Superbly Orgasmic, Partly Bi-curious and Highly Definitive High Definition).

 

Yeah icon14.gif

At first I thought that was the new name of the US Republican Party. And after reading the written out I think I want that TV!!!

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HD era = era where HD was the standard in gaming.

 

3D era = era where 3D was the standard in gaming.

 

2D era = era where 2D was the standard in gaming.

 

Since neither of the "next gen" consoles can deliver any game content at resolutions above 1080p we'll still be in the HD era for at least another 5-10 years.

 

After that the 4k/8k era. Or super/ultra/extreme/omgwtfbbq HD.

 

Why they separate like that? Artistic freedom I suppose. From what I gather they very much enjoy building completely "new" worlds every time they revisit a place, instead of just basically making an addon to it.

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Also, the next stage is GTA as a live reality TV show in Russia, but people can dictate what happens via app...

Sounds like 'Liberty City Survivor' "I was so excited, I didn't even realize I'd been hit!

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